teachers in the boston area?

[jpaton]

Hi all.

I recently moved to the Boston area and was hoping for suggestion on teachers in the area. I'm interested mostly in internal arts: xing i, tai chi, bagua, i chuan but also baji/pigua if there are classes around.

I've been to some different classes and have found one i'm happy with but would like to see more before i make a commitment.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks
Jonathan

[Brad]

http://www.ymaaschool.com

[Buddy]

I teach Gao style bagua in Plymouth.

[jpaton]

Have you studied Tai Chi from Yang Jwing Ming Brad? I thought he was more of a Shaolin/White Crane/Chin Na guy... I'll check out a class this weekend. Thanks.

[jpaton]

Hi Buddy.

I actually emailed you about a month ago. I'd be very interested in taking class from you but I live in northern mass, Methuen, and I'd be concerned about maintaining interest with such a long drive...

[Walter Joyce]

Originally posted by jpaton
Have you studied Tai Chi from Yang Jwing Ming Brad? I thought he was more of a Shaolin/White Crane/Chin Na guy... I'll check out a class this weekend. Thanks.

You are correct.

Buddy is a great teacher, but I understand the commute issue.

Try Herb Rich, he is on the North Shore and teaches Chen taiji.

http://www.chenstyle.com/

[yangchengfu04]

In my humble opinion, Gin Soon Tai Chi Federation is the best Tai Chi Chuan you will find in all of Boston. It is all very traditional and one on one instruction.

http://www.gstaichi.org/

[jpaton]

Yes, I went to Gin Soon school on saturday and was very impressed. Vincents Chu's and Gin Soon Chu's use of internal energy during push hands was amazing. Some of their students were very impressive as well. I will probably sign up next month but wanted to visit some more schools over this week.

Have you been studying there long?

[Walter Joyce]

For the record, I have studied with Gin Soon, and respect his abilities. I still suggest talking to Herb.

[jpaton]

Thanks Walter.

I'll try to check out one of his classes this week. I believe he teaches in Beverly? I've actually spoke with him before just hadn't had a chance to see a class, mostly because his class isn't on the weekend... Are you Familiar with Maxwell Ho? I believe he also teaches chen tai chi in the area? Could I ask how long you've been with Herb Rich?

Thanks
Jonathan

[yangchengfu04]

In Gin Soon's defense, there is a reason he's had a slew of students for many, many years. Also, many of their former students have gone on to become teachers themselves. Their record speaks for itself. I still recommend him over anyone else.

[n0rmann]

The Wah lum kung fu school in Millbury teaches Chen taiji. It is Hong Junsheng's chen.

Some Hong info: Hong was the only person to study under Chen Fake for 15 years consecutively. He was regarded by some to be a living resource person on Chen Fake's life and his teachings. Most of the stories about Chen Fake originated from him.

Hong was a very learned person. He read extensively and had an amazing memory. He was an expert of "temperament" (study of the rhythms of Chinese poetry) and was a poet and calligrapher. In his Chen Style Taiji research, he combined philosophy, physics and logic into his experiments. He followed his master's habit of using everyday life analogies in his explanations of the principles, theories and techniques of Chen Style Taiji. He was an enlightening master.

He was traditional in keeping the art yet modern in keeping up with the times. He used common terminology in his teachings so that the layer of mystery is removed so easier understanding of the art from today's background. He refused to use words such as "qi" in his teachings and his writings. Yet anyone who personally experienced his push-hands knows that he was a man who reached a very high level of ability even in the eyes of "qi" masters.

Hong had a hard life and spent half of his life in poverty. His only ambition in his entire life was to carry on his master's art. His life time persistence in the art brought to his door step students and visitors from all over the world including many from Japan. For many, to personally visit with this "sage" was an event to remember for life!

[jun_erh]

Heg Robinson teaches Yang style tai chi in Dorchester. He was an original student of TT Liang, begining his training in Boston in 1966! I'll try and find the story about him

[jun_erh]

Salvation in slow motion

An ancient martial art has brought Heg Robinson, founder of the Roxbury Tai Chi Academy, from hopelessness to harmony

By Jack Thomas, Globe Staff, 6/4/2003

t Mississippi's in Roxbury, the air is pungent with the aroma of barbecue pork, Caribbean chicken, and buttermilk biscuits, and you don't have to wonder who among the lunch patrons is Heg Robinson, founder of the Roxbury Tai Chi Academy 30 years ago. He's the gentleman seated at the window who is smiling and serene - and strong enough, you suspect after shaking hands with him, to toss Jean-ClaudeVan Damme out the window.




Not bad for a man who is 60 and now living his second life.

That first one had a lot of bumps, but the ancient Chinese martial art has helped transform Robinson from a man beset by despair, poverty, and ill health to the happy, peaceful, robust businessman running a tai chi academy that grosses $70,000 a year.

''Where would I be without tai chi?'' he says rhetorically. ''I'd be dead.''

Robinson has a dream, too: to convert his academy to a nonprofit institution, move it to larger quarters, and expand its scope to include acupuncture, health foods, and herbal medicine.

One of 11 children born to a family of sharecroppers in Parkin, Ark. (population 1,414), Robinson remembers a boyhood spent picking cotton till his fingers bled and trying to avoid trouble in the Jim Crow South. If you were black in the 1950s, you were not allowed in downtown Parkin after dusk. ''The South was a dangerous place for black kids,'' he says. ''You were always afraid.''

In that first life, Robinson saw hatred, even murder - racial stuff, like the day the white men came for his friend, Caleb, who was just 15. ''He must have gotten into trouble, but I don't know why because nobody ever asked and nobody even talked about it, '' he says. And nobody saw Caleb again until they found him 5 miles away, floating in the river, dead. ''At that young age, you never knew who was going to be next.''

When he graduated from high school, Robinson joined the Navy - not to see the world, but to get out of Arkansas. After five years as an aviation specialist, he was discharged knowing only one thing for certain: he'd never live in the South again.

Like a hobo in a folk song, he kicked around. He lived on the West Coast for a while, then caught a bus to Chicago. He later made his way to Cincinnati and a kitchen job in the Cotton Club, where blacks were treated so miserably he never went back for his final paycheck.

Robinson came to Boston in 1967 to look up a girlfriend, but she'd moved on; then his health went haywire. He was 24 and broke. His hair was falling out. The pain from an ulcer was unbearable. So it made sense to him one morning, just before dawn, to take a pistol to the Fens, where he sat on the grass behind the Museum of Fine Arts and tried to determine the best moment to shoot himself in the head.

Robinson didn't know it, but he was about to be reborn.

''It was April of 1967, 4 in the morning and chilly, and I was having bad feelings and wondering whether to stay in this life,'' he recalls. ''In the dark, across the grass, I saw this little guy in silhouette, dancing or practicing I didn't know what.

''I went back the next morning, still thinking about leaving this life, and there he was again, only this time he came over and asked why I was there. I told him I couldn't sleep. He saw the gun on the grass, picked it up, and said, `Come with me and I'll teach you to sleep, and then you won't have to do this.'

''I went back again and again. He taught me eight moves, slo-o-o-owly, over and over. It was hard and it hurt like hell, but after seven days, I was sleeping so deeply people could holler and not wake me. His name was T. T. Liang, and he died two years ago at 102, and what he did that morning was save my life.''

Robinson began his reincarnation.

He landed a clerk's job at the Boston Redevelopment Authority, and, using veteran's benefits, enrolled in the New England Photography School, then in night classes that led to a degree in education from Antioch College and a job at Madison Park High School in Roxbury teaching photography. He continued to study tai chi with Liang and later with Gin Soon Chu of Brookline. The physical training and discipline began to pay off.

''Tai chi changed my attitude about everything - drinking, smoking, substance abuse. I just quit all of that, and I started seeing myself as a man, '' he says.

Robinson began to teach tai chi at the Roxbury YMCA and other community centers, and in 1973, he invested $1,000 to convert a floor of his home on Highland Park Avenue into the Roxbury Tai Chi Academy. That modest investment has grown to encompass seven teachers and 150 students. Robinson teaches another 200 students, from teens to folks in their 90s, at schools and community centers in Greater Boston.

Derrick Egbert, 52, a management consultant from Cambridge, has been studying with Robinson for a year. ''It's changed my life,'' he says. ''I'm more peaceful, more focused, and I consider Heg Robinson among the wisest men I know.''

Tai chi is a slow-motion discipline of contrasts, both combative and peaceful, that benefits body, mind, and spirit. It is practiced by a quarter of a billion Chinese people and has grown more popular in Western countries as it has been adapted to emphasize its benefits to health. Proponents say that tai chi aids digestion and that its emphasis on breathing slowly and deeply reduces stress.

''If you want to have your doctor look at you and say, `Hey, wow!' then I recommend tai chi,'' says Robinson, ''because first, it keeps you healthy, and second, you don't have to worry about somebody punching you in the nose.''

Robinson and his wife, Renee Wynn, have a son, Tao Tiger, who is 4. From a previous marriage to Mildred McLean, Robinson has two daughters, one a biologist and the other studying for a doctorate in criminal justice.

Robinson exudes strength. The muscles in his arm - lean and long, not bulging like those of a weight lifter - are as hard as the table.

''Look at me,'' he says. ''I'm 5 feet 9 and look like I weigh 140, but I weigh 180. After you practice tai chi a long time, it makes your bones full, like the bones of a tiger.

''As I found out a long time ago, tai chi has the capacity to rejuvenate, which is why I teach it to seniors. If you want to stay away from the old-folks home, and if you want to deal with diseases you don't have to have, and if you want to control blood pressure and stay flexible and keep arthritis away from your body, there isn't anything better than tai chi. People who practice it grow old gracefully, usefully, and healthfully.''

What about his diet?

''This morning I had one apple and one banana,'' he says. ''Tonight I'll have swordfish, salad, and rice. And I take vitamins.''

Does he ever: ''I take 75 a day. This morning, with a glass of water and powdered rice, I took 50 vitamins, calcium, magnesium, B-complex, sulfur compound.''

In detail, Robinson describes the use of tai chi for self-defense, the blocking of an opponent's hands or feet. He rises from the table to demonstrate the Golden Treasure, one of tai chi's 108 moves, slowly and gracefully.

''To learn that,'' he says, ''takes 12 to 18 months of hard work, but you carry it the rest of your life. With an exercise like that, you can release tension in the body and create calmness in the mind and the spirit.''

Does he see his life as a rags-to-riches story?

''I don't know,'' Robinson answers. ''I used to work for 30 cents a day in the cotton fields, 12 hours a day, from sunup till it was too dark to see. Today I'm not rich in money, but if you're talking about health, then I'm filthy rich. I've got a great 4-year-old son. I'm excited about life, and nothing worries me.''

Shall we order food?

''No,'' he says. ''I really can't eat. I'm sorry. When I leave here, I'll take another 25 vitamins and then I'm off to Cambridge to teach tai chi to senior citizens. And there's work to be done on plans for the new academy. I cannot die and not accomplish that, but I'm only one brick in a great wall that I hope will be standing 100 years from now.''

After another strong handshake, Robinson is gone, and at Mississippi's, there's a sudden drop in energy

[jpaton]

Thanks jun_erh.

I found their website: http://www.roxburytaichiacademy.com. I'll call and see if i can sit in on a class. Do you study there?

Thanks again
jonathan

[FritzCat]

Bow Sim Mark's school is also in Boston
http://www.taichi-arts.com/index.shtml

[jpaton]

Hi Fritzcat.

Do you study with her? I've heard she's very good but leans towards the performance side of the art. Do you know if she covers applications and how to use internal energy?

Thanks
jonathan

[FritzCat]

I did not study with her directly, although I did meet her through my previous teacher (Shannon Phelps) who has studied with her for quite a while. Rev Phelps has the highest regard for her and her teaching and (IMO) would not have trained with her if it was merely about the performance side.

[Walter Joyce]

Bow Sim Mark will tell you herself that it IS about the performance side. One of my early neijia teachers spent over 10 years with her.

Just an aside, no one has mentioned anyone that I haven't heard of visitied and spoken too, if not actually trained with at some point, except for the gentleman from Roxbury, who I have only read about.

For Yang, I reccomend Gin Soon, for Wu, Sammy at Brookline Tai Ji, for Chen, Herb Rich (North Shore) and for general nei gong skill and ba gua and xing I, Buddy(who is in Plymouth, about 45 minutes to an hour from Boston).

Opinions differ, these are mine clearly stated.

In the end when you are ready, you will find the right teacher.

At a certain points experience and self-awareness will be the most vlaluable teachers you have.

[Shaolin Dude]

www.taichi.com I practice kung fu in this school. we teach yang style

[Walter Joyce]

Originally posted by Shaolin Dude
www.taichi.com I practice kung fu in this school. we teach yang style

Yao Li (started with Chan Poi decades ago) and Joshua Grant. Right down the way from me on Boylston Street.

Don't they also teach wushu, san da and ba gua there with various instructors?

[Buddy]

I might put both their TaiChi and BaGwa in quotes. But that's just me.

[yangchengfu04]

From what I know, I would have to agree with Buddy on that one.

[jun_erh]

what about that guy that teaches tai chi xingyi and bagua on the common on sunday mornings. The taoist wizard golden gloves guy.

I used to take Hung Gar from Calvin Chin who also teaches Wu style. His teacher taught some sort of system called fu hok te he morn or something. I can't comment on sifu Chins tai chi but he was on the cover of tai chi magazine about a year ago. i quit due to lack of "martial"

[jpaton]

I've heard heard of him i think, kwan sai hung? Some people say he's the greatest thing since sliced bread others that he's a complete fraud.

i have no idea either way but he doesn't have a consistent reputation like others mentioned on this thread.

it seems like most of the people mentioned so far have good reputations its just a matter of if you like yang or chen tai chi or bagua or white crane...

[jun_erh]

if you're ever in chinatown, go to Sam hop's and get the salt and pepper tofu. it's in the alley next to the dunkin donuts with the chinese lettering. It is a tasty dish. the food not the alley

[Shaolin Dude]

Originally posted by Walter Joyce


Yao Li (started with Chan Poi decades ago) and Joshua Grant. Right down the way from me on Boylston Street.

Don't they also teach wushu, san da and ba gua there with various instructors?

yep, they teach those too

[Jim Roselando]

Hello,


In Boston you can also find:


Bak Mei, Jook Lum Tong Long, Choy Li Fut etc. with the Chinese Mason Society in Chinatown. Those classes would be headed by Donald, Wayne & Larry. Donald is exceptionally skilled and is big into internal power/healing. He brings over Li sifu from China regularly for more training with Hay Gung and healing. Typically, the above arts are hard bow internal mechanics but Donald does teach his students Yang Sheng Zhuang as there basic breathing posture.


Leung Jan's Koo Lo village Pin Sun Wing Chun is also in Boston. This is an ultra hard to find art and Boston is the only place in the USA to get training in it. Different from a lot of common stuff you see the art is indeed Soft/Internal mechanics using the elongated (or stretched) bow to release the Ging. Definetly more similar to Taiji/Ba Gwa etc. engine. Soft Noi Gung is a major emphacis of this art that produces the Short Shock force and Jarn Dai Lik. There are two members of the Fung family living in Boston and Mui Wai Hun sifu who was a private disciple of Sigung Fung Chiu. There are a few people teaching this art under the guidance of Mui sifu and some of his old public students doing there thing. I recommend checking out the inner students.


Best of luck with finding a school!