Tsui Ma

[Jedi-X]

Are there any other Ving Tsun lineages, besides the Moy Yat lineage, that has Tsui Ma? I've heard that the Yip Ching lineage has Tsui Ma.

[stuartm]

Hi there,

Do you mean Tui Ma ? If so this means to push the horse (stance) ie keeping it grounded and rooted while you step. I think this is pretty common to a lot of chinese martia arts.

In Ip Ching Ving Tsun we talk about many of the same concepts as most other schools - biu ma, juen ma, huen ma etc. We do however place a great deal of emphasis on the 'Yiu Ma' or use of the waist in the stance on order to receive force and generate / deliver power both short and long bridge.

Hope this helps, Stuart

[Vyvial]

toy ma tsui mah tui ma whatever, it means push horse.

The students of Yip man who stayed with him longer than 10 years usually got it (Moy Yat, Yip Brothers, Wong Shun Leung, Chu Shong Tin, etc). There was nothing formal about it until Moy Yat with Yip Man's advice added tsui ma as a formal exercise in chi sau progression at his school in Hong Kong, much like the jong wasn't an official form until all of Yip's students starting teaching and needed to organize the movements that they all learned.

So tsui ma elements are in many of the older Yip lineages but it wasn't formalized until Moy Yat put it in his Hong Kong school.

Tsui Ma is one of the things that really makes the Moy Yat Method of Yip Man Ving Tsun stand apart from the rest.

tsui ma in action (http://www.moyyat.net/brice/moyyatnet.nsf/0/D7D702F953A2FE3486256E950071E803?OpenDocument)