Kung Fu Secret Agent ???!

[cerebus]

Okay, how many of you have seen the latest article on this site's main page entitled "Kung Fu Secret Agent"?

What do you think of the guy's story? Personally it sounds like a "Frank Dux" story to me but since I don't have the resources to check it out, I can't say for sure.

Anyone out there have any comments on it?

[Royal Dragon]

I didn't read the artical, but I have worked with guys in the past who where FBI, AFT a Cook County Sherif (as a student of his) another who was attached to some sort of Chicago Gang crimes unit and had a sparring partner years ago who is a former Marine and a Kempo specialst.

I also had some really intersting conversations with local police here and there about the arts they practice and such (Even compared forms a bit with one of the guys from Westmont once). I have come to the conclusion that a HIGH percentage of Law enforcment types are into the martial arts. It makes perfect sense that that would also apply to "Secret Agents".

[cerebus]

Wellllll, this is a little different. This guy claims to have been an international assassin for an Interpol hit team.

[rogue]

Interesting. Nothing is impossible.


directed by a government agency that denied their existence. Whose government? Which agency?

Steinberg vs Interpol: Operation Clambake. (http://www.xenu.net/archive/CourtFiles/occf177.html)

Searching for David Banners books on Amazon I got this message....


Books search results: we were unable to find exact matches for your search for introduction to windows 95/98 and prentice hall.


Books search results: we were unable to find exact matches for your search for Utilizing the semantic web and IA press .

Gene, did you check the list of publications. I can't find IA Press, do they have a web site?


On a hillside in rural Japan, Bannon was in a vicious fight with a rice farmer.3 The baseball bat Bannon had been using as a weapon broke in half during the struggle, but he managed to take the blunt end and ram it into his opponent's throat, bringing him to the ground. The farmer had nearly killed him. "This guy's qi was unbelievable," Bannon says. "I figure maybe Hung Gar." Bannon survived, but only just. "His arm techniques reflected lots of hours with the wooden dummy and he had that low, stable balance point that's so common to Hung Gar stylists. Impossibly fast, this guy, and he didn't telegraph at all. If my partner hadn't done a lot of damage first, I'd be dead." Huh? Hung Gar in Japan? Killer rice farmers? I don't know if it's the writers style but the story seems odd to me.


"elite forces which depended upon recruiting the most aggressive men...who had prison records," particularly for assassination missions with the Navy SEALS in Vietnam, Uh, OK. Book the quote is from... (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0465007376/qid=1084661152/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-8122537-2627129?v=glance&s=books)

I really don't see anything in the notes at the bottom of the page to support the story. Bad journalism.

[Vash]

Searched for David Bannon on Amazon, found this. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0882822314/qid=1084660951/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-6682440-0565543?v=glance&s=books)

Tried Bruce Banner, found this (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0609804618/qid=1084661079/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/104-6682440-0565543?v=glance&s=books)
and this. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/080721700X/qid=1084661079/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/104-6682440-0565543?v=glance&s=books)

[Vio]

I Read it, dont believe a word, sounds like a movie. some quotes


Originally posted by cerebus
On a joint assignment, Bannon fell in love with French counter-terrorist agent Sidelle Rimbaud.8 They planned on marriage; she was killed in a firefight with North Korean child smugglers and terrorists in Marseilles.



Originally posted by cerebus
Combined, these clandestine operatives have saved over 300 children and killed hundreds of slavers, pornographers and terrorists.




Originally posted by cerebus
On a hillside in rural Japan, Bannon was in a vicious fight with a rice farmer.3 The baseball bat Bannon had been using as a weapon broke in half during the struggle, but he managed to take the blunt end and ram it into his opponent's throat, bringing him to the ground.

[cerebus]

Heh, heh. Ya see my point Rogue? Just in that one quote I could say "Huh?" soooooo many times!:D

Why is he fighting a Japanese rice farmer? With a baseball bat.

Since when is Hung Gar Kung Fu popular amongst Japanese rice farmers? How can he tell it was Hung Gar from his conditioned forearms, low balance point and "chi"? Might the rice farmer have been a karateka instead?

After breaking the bat (how did that happen?), why did he ram the blunt end into the guys throat? I mean, he'd hafta grab the pointed, splintery broken end to do that and striking with the blunt end would be rather less lethal than thrusting the pointy broken end into the guy's throat, no?

Anyway, lotsa "WTF?" in that whole story.

[rogue]

Exactly, and how long were these guys fighting? This guy is a deadly killer and it sounds like they were going on for some time.


steel edge of a black Ka-Bar fighting knife glittering as it plunges into the terrorist's neck, then rips out, severing the vocal chords and jugular. I'll have to check on this technique, I mean that's alot of neck to cut through. Not to mention blood and escaping air for the throat wound.


the man and his South Korean partner step inside the two remaining guards' AK rifles and deliver quick, efficient blows to kill the North Koreans. They are wrapped in Kevlar, the Korean carries a Heckler & Koch Mark 23 .45 ACP pistol; his companion a Beretta 92FS 9mm. Communicating with signals developed over years of training, Huh?

I'm no assasin but something sounds off. Could be the writer.

[Royal Dragon]

steel edge of a black Ka-Bar fighting knife glittering as it plunges into the terrorist's neck,

Huh?? How does a BLACKedout knife "Glitter"? I have Two Ka-Bar's. Both are flat black specifically so they DON'T glitter and give a soldiers position away. The factory MAKES them that way for a reason.

the man and his South Korean partner step inside the two remaining guards' AK rifles and deliver quick, efficient blows to kill the North Koreans

Reply]
He can do this, but can't fight off a rice farmer with a BAT??

[Octavius]

Internpol secret assassination squad? AFAIK Interpol is a law enforcement information clearinghouse, and they don't really have any jurisdiction over anyone in any country - they help coordinate the law enforcement efforts across international borders. Since when did they start having super secret hit squads?

[cerebus]

Heh, heh. Read the article and learn the secrets young Grasshoppa'!:D

[Banjos_dad]

And did he bring the bat to the islands for the purpose of killing farmers, or was it a Japanese baseball bat that was laying around.

Isn't that like a ninja assassin coming to Kansas & killing a corn farmer with a sumo thong?

The Hung Gar master was just posing as a farmer in this tale of intrigue. Why should that be less plausible than a kung fu fighting secret agent posing as a manure saleman...or what's more likely, vice versa :eek:

...Next!...:D

[Kristoffer]

Gene, don't you think bull**** like this is what gives the CMA community a bad ****ing rep? This annoys me...

[Royal Dragon]

You know the Bad acting Good Kung Fu guys? I think it's those guys feeling out a new script. If it gets the attention they want, they will do the movie. If not, they won't.

Yes, No?


Maybe?

Or am I just nuts?


























Shhhhh, don't answer that last one :D

[Vash]

RD, I'd be inclined to agree, however, the Kwoon guys don't suxors like this steaming pile of poo.

[Banjos_dad]

You should see the stuff he left out because it wouldn't be believable enough:
One time he was in South America collecting relics in a subterranean cave. He had just avoided a couple of light,activated punji stick traps & poison darts, when he chanced to see a golden head on a table. He took the head off the table and replaced it with a bag of sand. There was a rumble and then this huge rock ball that must have weighed tons, cmae bearing down on him like a dealy juggernaut!! And then, and then, and then, and then. And then there was this time at band camp? when a north Korean tried to sneak in the tent? and stick a trombone slide up the pajamas? and then? and then?
How about the time he was assigned to pose as a cook aboard a battleship, and then Gary Busey came & took over the ship & they locked him in the galley but he tricked them and single handedly foiled the entire plot?

:rolleyes:

How about the time Johnnny and Hadji got kidnapped by the evil professor, and him and Dr. Quest had to go find them & wage a gun battle with werewolves to recover the boys...Oh, wait that was Race Bannon. Sorry!

[cerebus]

:D "Secret A-gent man! Secret A-gent man! They've given you a number and taken away your name."

Can't get that song outta my head now! :D

[cerebus]

Hmmm. Apparently his middle name is "Race" (David Race Bannon). As in "Race Bannon" of the old Johnny Quest cartoon. Wonder if that's meant as a hint or clue (or inside joke?).

[rogue]

Meanwhile, female assasins attack karate demo (http://www.europeankyokushin.org/?id=9&gid=182&sgid=182&zid=1471)

[Banjos_dad]

What exactly are those things on her thighs?

[CFT]

Originally posted by Banjos_dad
What exactly are those things on her thighs? Dunno, but I'd love to check it out ;)

[lkfmdc]

something to ponder

which is worse?

the person who comes up with the crap....

OR

the publisher who publishes it as if it were fact?

David Ross
masters in IR from Elliott School
went to school with REAL spies :rolleyes:

[GeneChing]

Bannon participated in our forums when his story first came out - see our TC Media forum (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=7344). I'm going to try to entice him to come online again here and defend himself. I'll drop him an email in an hour or two.

[lkfmdc]

I haven't read the article in question, but when I do I'll see what jumps out at me, I remember reading the Dux nonsense and nearly falling out of my chair

these guys are usually the biggest clowns, screwing up even the most basic of details

[rogue]

That's going to be hard for him to do without naming names, exact dates of events and in general spilling enough beans for interested people to find third party sources to verifiy things. Could someone at Interpol run a rogue operation? Sure, I've heard of wilder things happening, but something about the way the story is laid out just doesn't sound right. Also if what he's saying is true I can't think of why he would feel a need to defend himself here.

[GeneChing]

I've only met both Dux and Bannon once. I was loosely connected to a publisher who was courting Dux many years back - that must ahve been around '97. I remember Dux's agent being rather obstentatious. I didn't really talk to him much though. That publisher did a Klingon martial arts book. Seriously, I couldn't make something like that up.

As for Bannon, I met him only in passing here at the office. He was a very productive writer in the early years of KFTC, before my time really. He submitted a lot of history articles and such. His last major contribution was the original Deadly Hands article back in Nov Dec 2001 (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=142). I was working here then, but was not in charge of article selection. Actually, I'm still not completely in charge of this, but I'm much more in charge of it now than I was then. This e-zine piece (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/article.php?article=499) is his first since then. Like I said, I'll send him an email and tell him to visit this thread. He's pretty good about email.

[GeneChing]

We've taken this topic up on the Jason Putman thread (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=30228). Mr. Putnam has answered there.

[Stacey]

he answered my thread and not yours na na na na na na,

thrpppbbththh!

[GeneChing]

It helps when you call him out by name. ;)

Anyone who commented negatively on this thread feel like they've been sucker punched yet?

[YinYangDagger]

OH YEAH???

I'm starting a super-secret organization combining the Shaolin-do style with Ashida Kim's ninjitsu, and you can be in it only if you're a woman that is: a) Have studied wushu or gymnastics b) Of Asian descent c) Willing to let ALL my ninja mind control tricks work whenever I want...

Gene- I'll be sending you the story as soon as I train these girls right :D

[Asia]

Still don't believe this story.

And why does Bannon mostly dispatch his victims with obsure methods or edge weaponry? Favorite tool for wetworks is a supressed .22 hollow point. Why would you send an agent out into the field only to use baseball bats and knifes. When a double tap form a pistol allows him to accomplish his mission and keeps him safer than trying to engage in H2H.

[YinYangDagger]

Favorite tool for wetworks is a supressed .22 hollow point.


And you would know this how? Reading Tom Clancy novels or watching too many movies?? :rolleyes:

[Asia]

Originally posted by YinYangDagger
Favorite tool for wetworks is a supressed .22 hollow point.


And you would know this how? Reading Tom Clancy novels or watching too many movies?? :rolleyes:


Ssssh I can't tell you. But you can read about it in my up coming book!;)

Actually I've never read a clancy novel.

[cerebus]

Actually Asia IS at least partially correct. ONE of the weapons known to be popular for professional hits is the .22 cal. Being a .22, it's more thoroughly muffled by a silencer than, say, a .357 (:D ). As for the source of such info, many different types of crime statistics are available for anyone with the desire to research them. Being from a law enforcement background, these are some of the things I kept up on.

[YinYangDagger]

uhhhhh ok - thanks for enlightening me on this :rolleyes:

I was just giving Asia a hard time

[cerebus]

uhhhhh ok - glad I could help. :rolleyes:

[GeneChing]

You said
I'll be sending you the story as soon as I train these girls right - Don't send me the story, send me the girls. We can always use some more got qi? girls (http://store.martialartsmart.net/99mals361.html).