wingchunner
05-17-2001, 05:21 PM
(I am starting a new post because I don't like long threads)
Kung Fu Cowboy,
>>>Ok, I am all for respecting the teacher, and whatever MA I have studied , I have done so. But not because they are martial artists. I think everyone should respect everyone else if they deserve that respect.<<<
Of course; one should even respect those who don't deserve it. But, I believe if you really hold your teacher in high regard, then
>>>Well, you might have gotten a paying student! You are allowed a free test drive of a car before you buy it!<<
We're not talking about an item. We're talking about a relationship, and about something that grows and develops over time. I don't teach for the pay. Believe me... teaching martial arts doesn't pay, at least not in the area that I live in, and I don't want to sacrifice quality martial arts for quantity or "flowery and flashy" martial arts. I teach because I love Wing Chun. And any limited time that I have I want to go towards developing relationships and personal growth... Wing chun and otherwise.
Making beginners pay for a trial lesson will rid of those who aren't serious about Wing Chun.
>>>Well, maybe you shouldn't be looking for students then!<<<
I'm looking for good people who are serious about Wing Chun. Not a subordinate. The more people I work out with the better my sensitivity and knowledge bank of peoples energy and body type. I'm not going to waste my time with people who aren't serious. What's the point.
>>>No, it's a way for the teacher to cash in a little bit more! If I am somebody who walks in off the street, I don't know sh*t about the teachers personality, quality, or skill, and the only respect they deserve is the respect you give to any other fellow human being you just met! Any more profound respect must be earned, or its worthless.<<<
Obviously you don't hold your teacher in high regard. You look at him as someone who owes you something because you pay your $65 a month. Why have you been asking so many questions in this forum when you've found a good teacher? It's ok to ask questions in this forum. But, as I have read some of your posts I think... "Why doesn't he ask his teacher?" I feel that either you don't trust your teacher or you don't think he has enough knowledge to answer your questions. So, why are you with him? In my opinion, you disrespect your teacher by asking the questions that you have in this forum.
>>>Pay more! Come on! Of course I expect a reasonable fee, but are you saying as my teacher increases in skill, my tuition should go up also!
And take him to dinner? What! Should I buy him a car, and do his grocery shopping too! Maybe give him a bath? Hold his wang while he ****zes? Quit living in a bad kung fu movie!
Bottom line: Respect is earned on both sides, and expecting money or favors as a token of respect is pretty sh*tty! (think about it)<<<
Kung Fu Cowboy, do you really think your measly little $65/month or whatever you pay will even come close to the amount of time, money, and energy your instructor has put into the study of the martial arts, specifically, Wing Chun. Hah!
Do I think your tuition should go up? No.
Do I think you should show your teacher more gratitude for having you has a student? Definitely!
Do I think he expects gratitude? I don't know. But, if you poured your heart and soul into something that you were passionate about and you shared the knowledge you have with other people wouldn't it be nice to have some gratitude shown you?
I am so thankful that I have the teacher that I have. He has opened the door so much for me to so many possibilities that I never could have dreamed of even attaining them. He has taught me so much. And, I am proud, honored, and humbled to have him not only as my teacher, but as my friend! I am more than happy to pay for a dinner with him so I can share time with him, ask him questions about Wing Chun, his theories, his perspectives, etc. I know the path that he is on and I want to be there right behind him. I greatly respect him and love him.
Marty
Be true and loving.
http://wingchun.ereasons.net
Kung Fu Cowboy,
>>>Ok, I am all for respecting the teacher, and whatever MA I have studied , I have done so. But not because they are martial artists. I think everyone should respect everyone else if they deserve that respect.<<<
Of course; one should even respect those who don't deserve it. But, I believe if you really hold your teacher in high regard, then
>>>Well, you might have gotten a paying student! You are allowed a free test drive of a car before you buy it!<<
We're not talking about an item. We're talking about a relationship, and about something that grows and develops over time. I don't teach for the pay. Believe me... teaching martial arts doesn't pay, at least not in the area that I live in, and I don't want to sacrifice quality martial arts for quantity or "flowery and flashy" martial arts. I teach because I love Wing Chun. And any limited time that I have I want to go towards developing relationships and personal growth... Wing chun and otherwise.
Making beginners pay for a trial lesson will rid of those who aren't serious about Wing Chun.
>>>Well, maybe you shouldn't be looking for students then!<<<
I'm looking for good people who are serious about Wing Chun. Not a subordinate. The more people I work out with the better my sensitivity and knowledge bank of peoples energy and body type. I'm not going to waste my time with people who aren't serious. What's the point.
>>>No, it's a way for the teacher to cash in a little bit more! If I am somebody who walks in off the street, I don't know sh*t about the teachers personality, quality, or skill, and the only respect they deserve is the respect you give to any other fellow human being you just met! Any more profound respect must be earned, or its worthless.<<<
Obviously you don't hold your teacher in high regard. You look at him as someone who owes you something because you pay your $65 a month. Why have you been asking so many questions in this forum when you've found a good teacher? It's ok to ask questions in this forum. But, as I have read some of your posts I think... "Why doesn't he ask his teacher?" I feel that either you don't trust your teacher or you don't think he has enough knowledge to answer your questions. So, why are you with him? In my opinion, you disrespect your teacher by asking the questions that you have in this forum.
>>>Pay more! Come on! Of course I expect a reasonable fee, but are you saying as my teacher increases in skill, my tuition should go up also!
And take him to dinner? What! Should I buy him a car, and do his grocery shopping too! Maybe give him a bath? Hold his wang while he ****zes? Quit living in a bad kung fu movie!
Bottom line: Respect is earned on both sides, and expecting money or favors as a token of respect is pretty sh*tty! (think about it)<<<
Kung Fu Cowboy, do you really think your measly little $65/month or whatever you pay will even come close to the amount of time, money, and energy your instructor has put into the study of the martial arts, specifically, Wing Chun. Hah!
Do I think your tuition should go up? No.
Do I think you should show your teacher more gratitude for having you has a student? Definitely!
Do I think he expects gratitude? I don't know. But, if you poured your heart and soul into something that you were passionate about and you shared the knowledge you have with other people wouldn't it be nice to have some gratitude shown you?
I am so thankful that I have the teacher that I have. He has opened the door so much for me to so many possibilities that I never could have dreamed of even attaining them. He has taught me so much. And, I am proud, honored, and humbled to have him not only as my teacher, but as my friend! I am more than happy to pay for a dinner with him so I can share time with him, ask him questions about Wing Chun, his theories, his perspectives, etc. I know the path that he is on and I want to be there right behind him. I greatly respect him and love him.
Marty
Be true and loving.
http://wingchun.ereasons.net