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TzuChan
05-19-2001, 09:27 PM
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greyseal
05-21-2001, 12:07 AM
I haven't been studying Wing Chun long, but I've found it hard to pratice certain things by myself. A lot of drills are hard without another person to do them with, like practicing paak sau and such. Siu Lim Tao has a large number of techniques, so practice that at least once a day, slowly, but at least three fuk sau cycles in the beginning part should be done. Kwan Sau is a good thing to pratice. I've never visited another school, so I don't know if everyone practices chin na. Anyone else learn that in their kwoon? If you do, that is something that you need someone else for too, but you can work on your hand strength and finger speed, like picking up coins from a table top, quickly, one at a time, or opening up your hand , moving the fingers, etc. Good book on the subject is called Analysis of Shaolin Chin Na by Jwing-Ming Yang. And of course the most basic things to practice, Bong Sau, Tan Sau, and Chung Kuen. Hope that helped. :confused:

Armin
05-21-2001, 09:40 AM
Hi Tzu`Chan!

Beginner drills for at-home-training? How about this: FORM, chain-punches, FORM, steps (better: the whole footwork), FORM (:D), Kicks, (guess what?) FORM.

You could even train exercises, that you normally need a partner for, e. g. Dan Chi (for the correct positions).


Armin.

Abstract
05-21-2001, 03:46 PM
I've only been training in WC for 2-3 months, but at home I do SLT, chain punches, and sometimes practice the 1st dummy form in the air nice n' slow so i get the footwork down properly. And of course, some weight training that helps develop the fast twitch muscle fibers...but that's what I do.

wingchunner
05-21-2001, 10:35 PM
Get a book called "Warriors of Stillness" Vol. 1 by Jan Dierpersloot. An excellent book. Though it mainly concentrates on Tai Chi concepts. This will give you a good foundation for Sil Lum Tao. You will see improvement more quickly than if you didn't do the standing meditation. IMHO. :)

Marty

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JasBourne
05-21-2001, 11:16 PM
Do the Sil Lum Tao. It trains not only the form of the movements, but the wingchun body as well. Do each movement very consciously. For instance, when you do your three fok sau, press your index and middle fingers against your thumb, like you're making a birdbeak, and then bend your wrist in towards as hard as you can. Do the fok slowly. This creates an isometric exercise for your forearm muscles that will give you the strength later to do trappings and transitions against force with the fok form. SLT is the basis for everything. Do that right and you will have the tools for your personal style.

And so forth. Do your punches - start with 100 perfect form full-speed punches the first day, then increase by 25 each day until you are up to 500. Builds endurance and accuracy. Bruce Lee did 500 every single day. ;)

Train your balance - stand on one leg and do those punches. Train your leg muscles - do progressive sinking horses (sink, count to 10 slowly, sink lower, count 10, lower, 10, lower 10, up a little 10, etc). Stretch your body, build your flexibility. Take whatever you learned in class, and practice that as well.
:)

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cho
05-22-2001, 12:33 AM
Chain Punching. try to do it for 10 min straight. Work your way up to an hour. I've found this builds the most power into the techniquesˇˇ

mun hung
05-22-2001, 10:04 AM
From the information you've posted about yourself, it seems as if you've found a school not far from you. My advise would be to join that school or another if available and learn from a skilled individual who can offer you the "hands on" training that you need.

Everyone can tell you different drills to do, but would you understand how they're done or why? With no one to correct or explain things to you bad habit can easily develop, and be very hard to break in the future. Another thing is that in Wing Chun it is very important to have a partner to practice with. Even forms that can be done alone must be explained first and then understood by you.

This is of course is just my opinion. I wish you luck in finding a good instructor who will lead you in the right direction.

jameswebsteruk
05-22-2001, 12:46 PM
Interesting difference in training fook sao, Jabourne.

We are taught to relax the hand completely, and focus instead on the elbow, as part of the Lut Sao Te Chung concept. Any concentration in the hands tends to reduce feeling in the elbow.

We dont aim for trapping using forearm strength, then again, we dont trap at all if we can help it, we hit.

Regards
Frank

JasBourne
05-22-2001, 04:50 PM
It is only initially that we train the fok using isometrics. We also train to let the elbow push out the arm, not the wrist lead the elbow. later, we do the fok hand relaxed. I used it as an example of 'conscious' practice of the SLT for a beginner.

Trapping, no we don't do a whole lot of that either ;) but we do practice transitions, and sometimes that transition utilizes some strength. If your forearm muscle is strong and supple, the motion does not require that much effort. Also, a strong forearm muscle helps with the smoothness of wrist rotations.

My motivation was not to instruct in 'proper fok sau', it was to highlight that the best at-home training for a beginner is to do the form with the front of your mind :)

peace,
Jas

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jameswebsteruk
05-22-2001, 05:27 PM
>>My motivation was not to instruct in 'proper fok sau'<<

Yep, I appreciate that. I was just noting an interesting difference, which turns out to be not much difference at all.
God forbid anyone ever asking how to do a "proper" SLT, we would be here for the rest of our lives... ;)

Regarding the wrist strength, we kind of approach it from the other way. Loads and loads of Huen Sao gives you forearm strength, rather than getting forearm strength so you can huen sao!
Same end, of course. Strong wrist, good at huen sao.

:)
Frank

TzuChan
05-22-2001, 07:27 PM
And I'll take the advice of taking lessons first and then I'll see what I can practice Correctly at home on my own.

Thanks for the replies everybody !

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