Looking for Wing Chun in Shanghai

[Hungfutkune]

Does anybody know a good Wing Chun sifu in Shanghai??

[kj]

Originally posted by Hungfutkune
Does anybody know a good Wing Chun sifu in Shanghai??

Shanghai is no mecca for Wing Chun, and I have yet to find anyone living there who teaches or practices. The most I have found are few people in have "heard" of Wing Chun because of Bruce Lee. When visiting Shanghai on business, people persistently tell me there is no Wing Chun there, so I jokingly remind them "there is for now." ;)

I hope your search is more fruitful, but I wouldn't get my hopes too high. It is far easier to find Wing Chun in the west than in many areas of China. If you do manage to locate someone practicing in Shanghai, I'd love to learn of them.

Regards,
- kj

[John D]

I have been to Shanghai three times and visted a number of Shanghai MA instructors. The only thing that Shanghai MA instructors know about WC is that it is a southern art or what they saw at the movies with Michelle Yeoh. Some also said WC is a fatherless art because there is no centralized routines/curriculum (insulting but not altogether untrue). None of the Shanghai instructors think that there is anything higher than what they already have in Shanghai. Oddly, when you go further north, Chinese MA instructors think Shanghai is the northern point of the southern boundary........LOL.

In a nutshell, there is no WC in Shangahi that I know of and a great many people there (like most places) think that they have the best of the rest. Other than sightseeing and shopping, the only good thing from my visits to Shanghai was finding a gal worth marrying - and wowwww, I am glad that I practice WC, you will need it to survive an angry "married to you" Chinese woman who wants everything revolving around her. I am already deaf in my right ear from all the yelling (she says talking) but have managed to survived the other beatings - I have heard Korean women are worst. In my next life I will marry a Japanese gal, but at least I now know why so many Chinese men work extra long hours or hold three jobs - it is because they fear coming home too early and facing the REAL BOSS.

JD
John D.

[yuanfen]

John D

ROFL


You gave "being Shangaied" new meaning.

I have seen that play in other venues!!!

[John D]

Joy,

Chinese women are soft and guiet until the wedding band falls onto the finger - then the noise volume goes off the scale. . . . !

Anyway, I am headed up to Seattle to conduct a heavy duty 14-hour BJD workshop this coming July 23rd. Do you have any gung-fu brothers/sisters up there? I would like to drop by and say "friendly" hello. . . . If not, I intend to waste some hard earned money at the nearest Indian casino. . . . . LOL

John D.

[ntc]

John,

I see you have discovered why Chinese call their wives "Lo Fu Lar", meaning "female tiger" !!! That is because they are ferocious like tigers, especially, like you so accurately said, after marriage.

[Hungfutkune]

Hey guys I found a Wing Chun sifu in Shanghai and have my first class this week. Most of my training in the past has been Hung gar and I touched a bit on Mantis. I think it's going to be a difficult task training since my sifu doesn't speak english.

Is there anybody out there that can give me any advice or things to look out for or ask. just in case this guy is not legit.
Thanks

[John D]

Hungfutkune,


Tell us more about this WC instructor....! I have not visited Shanghai for almost three years but I might this Xmas.

IMO, all MA teachers schould have some sort of written curriculum path/guide that lists all the benchmarks/practices to be covered.

[Hungfutkune]

Well I had my first class today. And **** was I exhausted.
We went over basic stance (which he referred to Ma Bo 1). and then went to some basic punches and open hand strikes, always staying in the Centerline. It was a little difficult since he didn't speak English and I didn't speak Chinese but he was very efficient and patient in correcting my body posture. He kept telling me to relax my shoulders. We then moved on to the same strikes and blocks but twisting from side to side.
The hardest part was in the ready stance (sorry don't know what else to call it), keeping my fists by my side but up high at chest level. I was always used to Hung Gar where I kept my fists on by my side at waist level.

I tried to find out what his lineage but as far as I could understand his sifu's sifu was a kung fu brother of Yip Man.

All in all it went well and he definetely seems to know what he's talking about ( In Chinese anyway ). I think next time I will bring a notebook and try and write down some of the terms in Chinese.

Any advice or suggestions from anybody out there in Kung Fu land will be welcomed.

[rindge]

Hung, one of the things that served me well when I visited a HK WC school back in 1990 was that there happened to be a student who spoke English. This helped me out tremendously.

The question you have to ask yourself - is it worth it to ask one of your bilingual (english and mandarin) friends to attend class to dig into the sifu's lineage? Might **** him off somewhat. Maybe a friend could help translate what the curriculm is and then you could dance around the lineage issue.

Good luck and I'm jealous!

Rindge

[Jim Roselando]

Hello,


While its not WCK you may be interested in looking up;

Cai Song Feng

(spelling?)


He is a top Yang Tai Chi sifu and very skilled at the essence of Tai Chi. The bulk (core) of his training consists of Wu Ji.


Best of luck!


Regards,

[Hungfutkune]

Hey guys,

Classes are going great!! Right now I am still working on basic punches, blocks and stances. I started the first few moves of Siu Lum Toa. We also started some one hand Chi sao. It's great and can't wait to learn more. My sifu is speaking a little english, so I now he can say "5 minute break", which trust me I really need. I sweat like a demon in class (wait do demons sweat? - oh well you know what I mean), and getting that one on one attention is definately worth it. I am still trying to track down his lineage.
This is what I got so far. My sifu trained in the Foshan (sp?) province and a sifu by the name of May Yow Ming (sp?), who was trained also in the same province by a sifu that was Yip Man Kung fu brother.
Sorry I am not putting too much out there for you but has anybody heard of this lineage?
And by the way what was the name of Yip Man's sifu (i guess I could do the research on the web, but I like to get posts - hee hee.)

[Jim Roselando]

Hello,


Could it be; Mak Yiu Ming?

Rene would probally have more info. on him as he is from his lineage. Cheung Bo/Sum Nung

Thats the closest name I can think of!


Glad our classes are going well!


BTW: You still may want to visit Cai Song Fang of the Yang tai Chi family! I hear he is fantastic! I know he is in Shanghai!


Regards,

[YiWan]

This is what I got so far. My sifu trained in the Foshan (sp?) province and a sifu by the name of May Yow Ming (sp?), who was trained also in the same province by a sifu that was Yip Man Kung fu brother.


Hi,
Mak Yiu Ming sifu is an exelent master in Fatshan. His students have won many times Fatshan Jíng Mo Chi Sau Bei Choi some years ago (but not last time - last time won my SIFU, Wong Nim Yi ...;) ). His lineage is Wai Yuk Sang - Cheung Bo - Wong Kut Chuen - Mak Yiu Ming.
I know Mak sifu since 1999 and think, his wing chun is good, really good ;) !!!
greetings
YiWan