DragonzRage
07-03-2004, 08:51 PM
A guy I know who I've trained MMA with was hanging out at some bar in the San Diego area a couple nights ago and saw some fight that involved someone who was clearly trained in some traditional martial art. Being an MMA guy, he doesn't think much of the TMAs, so he found this fight very interesting and had to share it with me. The fight happened outside the bar. The attacker had a size advantage. The following is from my friend's email:
the fight started when the bigger guy sucker punched the ma'ist. the punch made some contact on the face but the ma'ist didn't seem hurt and then attacker backed off. he looked surprised that he didn't put the other guy down. i think the fight was just completely unexpected because the ma'ist looked startled and took a few paces back. he then went into a crane stance...
hahaha jk. actually he just put his hands up. nothing fancy, he just put his hands up to defend himself. at the same time he started yelling at the attacker, "what the hell's your problem man?" "what was thaT **** ABOUt?" and stuff like that. the big guy responded with, "i got you mf'er!" then he put his hands up like a boxer and actually started probing at the ma'ist with jabs as if trying to set up combos. i doubt that he was a trained boxer cuz his punches didn't look too clean. but he didn't look competely clueless either so he might've had a little training, i dunno. so the two started moving around with one another in the valet parking area. the attacker was throwing probing punches and trying to close in and the other guy was just moving with him and defending and maybe throwing a punch back here and there. for a little bit it actually looked like some kind of halfassed sparring match. the bouncers might've thought that it was just two drunk buddies messing around with each other. while defending he ma'ist was yelling things like, "what the ****'s going on? christ what's your beef with me?" i honestly don't hink he had any clue why he was being attacked. and he was just defending himself and trying to talk the other guy down. he still wasn't really fighting back. pretty nice guy. the attacker finally started getting impatient and he rushed forward throwing harder punches. thats when i noticed that the defender was using some technqiue. as the attacker closed in and threw harder punches the defender started covering and blocking. he was covering with his hands straight and palms facing him and sometimes trying to slap the punches away and it was obvious that he was defending with some technique. for the most part it was working cuz the attacker wasn't tagging him. a few glancing shots might've gone thru but he didn't land anything solid. and he was definitely trying to take the guy's head off. the attacker backed off for a second and then came forward again. this time the ma'ist grabbed his wrist and palmed him solid right across the face and the guy fell down on all fours for a second. it was pretty nicely done. the ma'ist kicked him once while he was down but then backed up and again started asking the guy what his problem was. that was a mistake. he should've just started wailing on the guy. or if he knew any grappling he could've took top position and choked his ass out right there. instead he just kept yelling at the guy and actually let him get back up. pretty stupid imho. he had an opportunity to end the fight and let it go. the guy rushed at him again and they clinched grabbing eachother's clothes. the ma'ist tripped him and threw the fool flat on his ass. i heard the pavement smack. it was funny as all hell. i'd say it looked like a deliberate technique. now FINALLY security comes in and breaks it up cuz they finally figure out that this is an actual fight going on and not just two guys messing around. at this point everyone outside is watching the whole thing. the big guy is mad and trying to get the bouncers to let him have at it again. the ma'ist is finally starting to look angry and he's yelling at the other dude, "you want some more? we can keep going." the big guy looks like he's trying to salvage some of his pride after getting punked out and he's yelling back, "haha i nailed you fool." to which the other guy responds "you're the one who went down *****. i'm just getting started. we can go across the street and i'll really stomp your ass." but security is telling the big guy to get lost and he runs off and gets into his SUV with a couple friends. now the other guy is telling security to get the license plate cuz he wants to press charges. but the dude was already driving. he faked as if he was going to run them over but then swerved off and sped away. ******* was probably DUI. i hope the cops got him for that. anyway that was it. i kind of wanted to approach the dude and ask him what he trained in because it was obvious by what he was doing that he knew some traditional style. but he was busy talking to security and asking the staff about the other guy. i guess he was serious about wanting to press charges. i gotta hand it to the guy that he defended himself pretty well. i would've been more aggressive in his shoes but he didn't do too bad against a bigger guy trying to knock his block off. pretty funny huh?
the fight started when the bigger guy sucker punched the ma'ist. the punch made some contact on the face but the ma'ist didn't seem hurt and then attacker backed off. he looked surprised that he didn't put the other guy down. i think the fight was just completely unexpected because the ma'ist looked startled and took a few paces back. he then went into a crane stance...
hahaha jk. actually he just put his hands up. nothing fancy, he just put his hands up to defend himself. at the same time he started yelling at the attacker, "what the hell's your problem man?" "what was thaT **** ABOUt?" and stuff like that. the big guy responded with, "i got you mf'er!" then he put his hands up like a boxer and actually started probing at the ma'ist with jabs as if trying to set up combos. i doubt that he was a trained boxer cuz his punches didn't look too clean. but he didn't look competely clueless either so he might've had a little training, i dunno. so the two started moving around with one another in the valet parking area. the attacker was throwing probing punches and trying to close in and the other guy was just moving with him and defending and maybe throwing a punch back here and there. for a little bit it actually looked like some kind of halfassed sparring match. the bouncers might've thought that it was just two drunk buddies messing around with each other. while defending he ma'ist was yelling things like, "what the ****'s going on? christ what's your beef with me?" i honestly don't hink he had any clue why he was being attacked. and he was just defending himself and trying to talk the other guy down. he still wasn't really fighting back. pretty nice guy. the attacker finally started getting impatient and he rushed forward throwing harder punches. thats when i noticed that the defender was using some technqiue. as the attacker closed in and threw harder punches the defender started covering and blocking. he was covering with his hands straight and palms facing him and sometimes trying to slap the punches away and it was obvious that he was defending with some technique. for the most part it was working cuz the attacker wasn't tagging him. a few glancing shots might've gone thru but he didn't land anything solid. and he was definitely trying to take the guy's head off. the attacker backed off for a second and then came forward again. this time the ma'ist grabbed his wrist and palmed him solid right across the face and the guy fell down on all fours for a second. it was pretty nicely done. the ma'ist kicked him once while he was down but then backed up and again started asking the guy what his problem was. that was a mistake. he should've just started wailing on the guy. or if he knew any grappling he could've took top position and choked his ass out right there. instead he just kept yelling at the guy and actually let him get back up. pretty stupid imho. he had an opportunity to end the fight and let it go. the guy rushed at him again and they clinched grabbing eachother's clothes. the ma'ist tripped him and threw the fool flat on his ass. i heard the pavement smack. it was funny as all hell. i'd say it looked like a deliberate technique. now FINALLY security comes in and breaks it up cuz they finally figure out that this is an actual fight going on and not just two guys messing around. at this point everyone outside is watching the whole thing. the big guy is mad and trying to get the bouncers to let him have at it again. the ma'ist is finally starting to look angry and he's yelling at the other dude, "you want some more? we can keep going." the big guy looks like he's trying to salvage some of his pride after getting punked out and he's yelling back, "haha i nailed you fool." to which the other guy responds "you're the one who went down *****. i'm just getting started. we can go across the street and i'll really stomp your ass." but security is telling the big guy to get lost and he runs off and gets into his SUV with a couple friends. now the other guy is telling security to get the license plate cuz he wants to press charges. but the dude was already driving. he faked as if he was going to run them over but then swerved off and sped away. ******* was probably DUI. i hope the cops got him for that. anyway that was it. i kind of wanted to approach the dude and ask him what he trained in because it was obvious by what he was doing that he knew some traditional style. but he was busy talking to security and asking the staff about the other guy. i guess he was serious about wanting to press charges. i gotta hand it to the guy that he defended himself pretty well. i would've been more aggressive in his shoes but he didn't do too bad against a bigger guy trying to knock his block off. pretty funny huh?