Non combat cross training

[AmanuJRY]

Do any of you cross-train or participate in any sports or activities, that are not combat related, that you believe contributes to your martial art training?

I know most sports and such will help in general fitness, but aside from that anything more specific.

Like;

I snowboard, wakeboard and ride motocross. All three of these really give my adductor muscles a work out.

I also work in construction, and swinging a hammer is a very good workout for stickfighting.

[anerlich]

I was a gymnast in HS and University which has helped greatly with a number of aspects of my skill training, esp in BJJ.

I also practice yoga and ROSS (though the latter is probably combat related).

I used to surf a lot, which was great for flow sensitivity and upper body endurance, but time is short these days.

[sihing]

I lift weights, but I will admit not solely for my WC, but also for vanity purposes, lol, I hated being skinny. I find larger forearms and added strength has improved everything about my WC, although my weight training regimen didn't start till after the skill was obtained. Also I visualize allot on my WC technique and situations that can possible happen. I read once in a success book that the mind does not know the difference between something vividly imagined and something that happened for real. So far it’s worked for me.

Sihing

[FooFighter]

Do any of you cross-train or participate in any sports or activities, that are not combat related, that you believe contributes to your martial art training?

Exercise is a natural habit for me since middle school. I am a big fan of strength training using Russian Methodology. This includes working with Kettlebells, Indian Clubs, and of course compound
lifts in the gym. I am currently training with different variations
body weight or weighted single arm push ups and single leg squats. I also do cardio by using the treadmill or the bike in the gym or I will do out door jogging. Usually, I do 30-40 min of yoga type exercises after my cardio sessions. This summer I have been going to dance clubs on the weekend. I think dancing and having fun with ya friends and, God willing, some pretty hotties is a wonder non combat cross training.

[AmanuJRY]

Originally posted by anerlich
I also practice yoga and ROSS (though the latter is probably combat related).

What is ROSS??


Originally posted by anerlich
I used to surf a lot, which was great for flow sensitivity and upper body endurance, but time is short these days.

Surfing in Australia.......Cooooooool!:D


As far as yoga and weight training, I do these as well, but I consider them as part of my general fitness routine. For this post I was kinda thinking of less obvious activities that may contribute. All is good though.

[Nick Forrer]

I lift weights, swim, mountain bike and when I get the chance play squash.


I have heard my instructor say that any activity which requires you to be light on your feet and change direction quickly (like squash) will be good for your wing chun.

[Ernie]

Things that help hmmmm

Gym work, stretching, pilates, plyo’s, running, snowboarding, white water rafting, mountain biking, eating right plays into all of the above, and it doesn’t hurt to be a good dancer and have rhythm =)

[FooFighter]

AmanuJRY

What is ROSS??

Is a non systematic high concept flowing martial art founded by an American Sambo instructor who earned the title "master of sport" in Russia. Please check www.clubbell.tv this site will give more information about the founder of ROSS and I highly recommend 'Body Flow' book and video series.

[AmanuJRY]

Originally posted by Ernie
Things that help hmmmm

Gym work, stretching, pilates, plyo’s, running, snowboarding, white water rafting, mountain biking, eating right plays into all of the above, and it doesn’t hurt to be a good dancer and have rhythm =)

I was looking for things that don't apply just to general fitness.
Like; snowboarding-helps adductor muscles.
Activities that help more specific areas.
Dancing for rythm and coordination is an awesome example!

[Ernie]

justin ,


in that case basket ball any sport were you have to apply footwotk timing and fakes off another human trying to shut you down .

my friend robert and his teacher used to go to the beach and pick up games then chi sau during the down times

i'm not that crazy but i get what they were doing
this also lead to a few fights but they didn't seem to mind

:D

[AmanuJRY]

Thats another cool example.
The footwork and things you mentioned would help with FMA and boxing footwork fo' sho'.
I like B-Ball too, don't get many street ball players out this way.
Could see how it would lead to fights though. Where does Rob and his teacher play, Venice Beach??

[Ernie]

Where does Rob and his teacher play, Venice Beach??

i think they were out in oceanside at the time
they were doing alot of all day training back then
run in the morning for about 5 miles then do some ground work for a few hours , go play ball
come back and work weapons
then do some sparring

7 days a week for like a year man it was nuts
but i saw the results

now that he is teaching full time , he doesn't hang with his teacher that much anymore to busy

[AmanuJRY]

That's nuts.

It reminds me of the Korean ROK soldiers in Vietnam. They were the 'special forces' of the Korean army. They would get up in the morning and exercise then beat the **** out of each other sparring throughout the day when not busy with duties. According to the story I read.

[Ernie]

Just had one of those days,
Took the day off work to rest, yea right rest
Went to Gary’s had a couple of instructors visiting from a different family put in 3 hours with them this morning. Then went to the rose bowl and ran 3 miles then went to the gym and did a hour on the heavy bag, then hit the weights. Was planning on getting together with rob tonight for some stick work, oh yea did I mention rest, I need to be shot and put out of my misery =)

and after all this rob will call me lazy ha ha ha

[CFT]

For those of you who have a non-martial arts job ... what do you consider a "lazy" training regimen? Or, how much training do you regularly fit in around your "life"?

[Ernie]

Originally posted by CFT
For those of you who have a non-martial arts job ... what do you consider a "lazy" training regimen? Or, how much training do you regularly fit in around your "life"?

Lazy,
To me well you must first understand how I see priorities, your health and fitness is much more important then your martial arts training. Why? Simple you use your body every waking moment, but you may never get into a fight.
So by this simple logic, were should one invest the most to get the most in return?
Some say they get both fitness and martial art skill when they train wing chun, I beg to differ first wing chun doesn’t involve full range of motion, second and more prominent, wing chun is about being efficient and not using to much energy but just enough. So once you have reached a certain level of sensitivity you don’t need to work as hard, unless your one of the few that spars and grapples but this is outside the norm.

So lazy to me is anyone that neglects their body, anyone that over indulges in food, drink, or smokes this is disrespectful to your body. Sure we all live and celebrate and have a good time but respecting ones body and knowing when to say enough is enough sadly is not a popular thing to do.

So a basic training regiment that I would suggest as minimum would be, the gym 3 times a week lifting, stretching, and cardio and wing chun 2 or 3 times a week and one good day off to rest cheat and just be free.

If you were preparing for a fight or something like that it would be more intense.

The older you are the more important, working out and eating right are, keeping the weight off and the energy up, just equates to a higher quality of life
If you consider yourself a martial artist your fitness level should be above average ‘’ yes even in wing chun’’ I say this because we are more body aware and ask more from our bodies during hard training sessions, it often needs to heal or absorb shock and punishment that might add up down the line.

But in reality I have long ago learned to each there own
;)

[AmanuJRY]

Originally posted by CFT
For those of you who have a non-martial arts job ... what do you consider a "lazy" training regimen? Or, how much training do you regularly fit in around your "life"?

I would define a lazy training regimem by your goals and ambition to reach those goals. If you set goals and are working toward them with success, that is not lazy. If you set goals and don't feel as though you ever achieve them or even make noticable progress...that's because you're lazy!

[GeneChing]

From watching Bruce Lee movies to winning wing chun gold: wushu brings Yvette Kong serenity in the swimming pool (http://www.scmp.com/sport/hong-kong/article/2146337/watching-bruce-lee-movies-winning-wing-chun-gold-wushu-brings-yvette)
The Hong Kong record holder credits southern China martial art with helping to save her swimming career and Olympic dream
PUBLISHED : Wednesday, 16 May, 2018, 12:20pm
UPDATED : Wednesday, 16 May, 2018, 9:45pm
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Yvette Kong Man-yi has qualified for her first Olympics after six years of struggle and mental anguish. Photos: K.Y. Cheng
HONG KONG

What is the relationship between Chinese martial arts and swimming? Olympian Yvette Kong Man-yi may be best-placed to demonstrate.

The 25-year-old, who represented Hong Kong at the Rio Games two years ago after becoming one of the few local swimmers that made the “A” qualifying standard, recently won a gold medal in wing chun at the Hong Kong International Wushu Championships.

“I liked wushu since a very young age, I was always play-fighting with my brothers and cousins and watching Bruce Lee movies,” said Kong, who is preparing for the Asian Games in Indonesia this summer.

“When I was young, my mother once ordered me to learn ballet because of cultural stereotype but I quit after two lessons. I was simply too active and always had wushu on my mind.”

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Yvette Kong Man-yi says she liked wushu from a young age. Photo: K.Y. Cheng

Kong then took up swimming, which she has been involved with for over two decades, and she is the Hong Kong record holder in four events – 50-metre, 100-metre and 200-metre breaststroke, and the women’s 4x100-metre medley relay when they won bronze at the 2009 East Asian Games in Kowloon Park.

But she has also practised wushu from the age of 12 under Bruce Lee Chun-pong, who coached her to her recent victory in wing chun.

The southern China martial art was popularised in Hong Kong by the 2008 box-office smash Ip Man, in which wing chun grandmaster Donnie Yen played the titular role.

“Practising wushu has helped me in different stages of my life,” said Kong. “When I was young, it was like a form of expression for any active teenager and as I grew up and started serious training in swimming, it helped my back muscles.

“When I was more mature, it helped not only on the physical side but also the mental side, as wing chun focuses on close range movement and every step must be well-controlled and performed with great power.

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Yvette Kong, pictured at the Asian Indoor Games, says wushu helps her handle the mental side of high-level swimming. Photo: Hong Kong Sports Federation and Olympic Committee

‘It helps you become more patient and to stabilise your mind, so that you know exactly what you are doing in every movement.”

Kong said she reached a crossroads in her swimming career after failing to qualify for two successive Olympics, at Beijing in 2008 and London in 2012.

She then moved from the United States after finishing her studies at Berkeley in California to train with the Edinburgh University swimming team in Scotland.

“The years between 2009 and 2015 were probably the worst in my swimming career. I just couldn’t do well and I quit swimming for a short period,” she said.

“But then wushu came in and my mental character became stronger and the new environment in Edinburgh also worked well for me.

“Eventually I made it to the Rio Olympics and I would say my training in wushu did play a role.”

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Yvette Kong poses with her gold medal alongside one of her coach’s young students, who was also a winner at the Hong Kong International Wushu Championships. Photo: Handout

With her lifelong goal of competing at an Olympic Games achieved, Kong said she had the opportunity to realise some of her smaller ambitions, which included taking part in the Wushu Championships.

“Wushu is a big asset of Hong Kong with a long tradition. I appreciate it very much and always want to spread it,” said Kong. “But now of course my focus is back for the Asian Games which is just around the corner.”

Kong will be attempting only the 50-metre breaststroke in Jakarta and the women’s 4x100 metre medley relay if she gets selected for the team.

“I would be very happy to get the relay chance again and of course I also want a breakthrough in a shorter distance,” said Kong, whose bronze in Incheon four years ago was her first Asian Games medal.

“Powerhouses China and Japan are always strong in the relay and we must beat South Korea if we want to join the two heavyweights on the podium.”

I love these kinds of stories.

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[boxerbilly]

You should try this non combat stuff.