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htowndragon
07-22-2004, 08:22 PM
does ANYBODY HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON SONG CHANG RONGS BA GUA?!!!!

i have found fan family info thanks to jarek, he emailed me telling he he had no idea about song style people.

shi style i got a little bit info off of yahoo somewhere. but thats about it.

help anyone? i want to cover as many known branches as i can in my high school junior project (book that i am writing).

SPJ
07-23-2004, 05:57 PM
Song was one of the 8 disciples. (2nd generation)

Yi, Zheng, Lian and Shi are widely known.

Yi Fu: 1840-1909. selling Yu Tiu (fry long donut) and studied Lo Han and Tang Twei. studied Ba Gua with Dong Hai Zhuang. He taught Ba Gua to Qing royalties. The palm form is Cow tongue Zhang.

Zheng Ting Hua: 1848-1900. selling eyeglasses, nick name 'eyeglasses Zheng". studied Shuai Jiao before Ba Gua. The palm form is Dragon Zhang. shot by Germans.

Shi Ji Dong: 1835-1909. selling logs and good at kicking, ranking number 6 in Beijing, nickname "Slippery leg Shi Liu". The palm form is grass cutting hook.

Lian Zhen Pu: 1863-1932. tailor and selling clothes, then found a security escort bureau (Biu Jui). studied Tang Twei then Ba Gua. the palm form is the same as in Shi's.

Sorry I dunno anything about Song.




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htowndragon
07-23-2004, 06:23 PM
i know about all those people. yin fu and all. cheng ting hua (sorry its not zheng, like in zheng man qing even though the romanizations have a common "cheng" spelling sometimes), liang zhen pu and all that. info is widely avaiable because their students are around. im a gong bao tian stylist. any info on the other three though ? CHINESE IS PERFECTLY OKAY im a natvie speaker.

SPJ
07-23-2004, 07:36 PM
the other listing names are debatible:

Zhang Zhan Kuei: 1858-1938. nickname "lightening hand" (San Den Shou), studied Hua Quan and Xing Yi Quan. created Xing Yi Ba Gua. His student Jiang Run Jiao served in Nanjing central Koushu commitee, wrote Ba Gua Zhang book and made Ba Gua popular thruout China.

Liu De Kuan, nickname" Da Qian Liu"

Song Chang Rong and Song Yong Xian: Song Pai Ba Gua.



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