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IronFist
07-29-2004, 08:12 PM
I'd say that in the past 15 years (since the introduction of NHB competitions like UFC and the like), MA has taken it's biggest evolutionary steps in the past hundreds of years.

In case you've been sleeping for the past 15 years, here's a summary in one sentence:

"You thought your MA could prepare you for a fight but you just got arm barred."

So where do you think MA will be in 50 years?

Will the ineffective ones have been washed out?

Will there still be mcdojos?

Will everything have become a combination of Muay Thai and BJJ?

Will kung fu still be too deadly for the ring?

Or do you think some other as-of-yet-unheard of MA will surface and start laying the smack down on all the MMA NHB guys that are dominating right now? Maybe it will be flying chi blasts. Oh man, that'd be awesome.

UFC LXX

Rorton Gracie (Muay Thai and BJJ) vs. Sum Kul Gai (Rising Phoenix Qi Fu)

Announcer: And the bell sounds! Gracie rushes in and WHAT'S THIS? Gai has blasted Gracie against the ropes without even touching him! Gracie has fallen over and is out for the count. And the winner is Sum Kul Gai!!!

Shaolinlueb
07-29-2004, 08:23 PM
wushu and traditional will either try to seperate themselves more or blend together and produce some of the best modern amrtial artists ever. all the chi and everything else of the great masters of the past will be lsot because of no time for practice in this demanding world. IMO.

David Jamieson
07-29-2004, 08:46 PM
there's time to practice. It's not like you have to practice day and night 24/7/365 to get results from qigong practice.

I think there is a revival or at least a higher awareness of this practice now. For instance, I can open a community centers guide for the town i live in and see tai chi and qigong classes being offered.

anyway...IMO :p

as for the rest, they're gonna incorporate weapons at some point and special armour etc etc and the matches will often end in death.

especially after the apocolypse and FOX takes over the greater portion of the North American continent with the Illuminatis Grey alien army.

exciting times are coming! :D

Hermes3X
07-29-2004, 09:09 PM
first thing, when the olympics hit China in 2008, wushu will be everywhere and we will hear for another ten years how we all have brocade kicks and we suck. From this I see the slow development in the United States of a differentiation between old school stuff that trains to fight and enters tournaments for play and schools that train only to enter tournaments.

I doubt there will ever be a standardization of rankings amongst the CMA, altough I've heard various old-school-direct-from-China instructors want something like this to happen.

Somebody's going to figure out a way to strike grapplers from the ground while in that naked oilman wrestling position and then it's all over.

I think there will also be a further professionalization of martial arts in the states, as academics take notice of developments in MMA and TMA

Or China could attack taiwan, cut off the panama canal from all boat traffic, cripple shipping through the East Indies with their little diesel subs, invade the Philipines to take control of the Spratly Islands, annex Tajikistan and bulldoze Xinjiang province, dominate Mongolia to the point of the disappearance of the national boundaries there, leaving the United States with little choice but to declare war and round up all of us martial artists as treasonous devils. At this point Indian will rise up in Nuclear might and crush Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan leaving nothing but mountains of glass from the Ghats to Tigris River. Then these two ancient nations will engage in a gigantomachia that the world hasn't seen since Qin begain to wage unifying war on the known World.

Of course Bob Dylan might reveal himself to be the Deathless Yellow Emperor on December 12, 2012 and usher in the sixth age of the sun, an age of peace and wonderous prosperity

rubthebuddha
07-29-2004, 11:43 PM
read starship troopers. as far as martial goes ...

then watch the movie, and reflect on how diz was a man in the book, but was a woman the main character bagged in the movie (rubthedinameyer)

Liokault
07-30-2004, 03:28 AM
Nothings going to change.

Most people just do not know about MMA, and most people just stick with the first art they take.....normaly the one nearest where they live, or with the best parking.



"You thought your MA could prepare you for a fight but you just got arm barred."

This statement kind of assumes that an arm bar is what you should fear in the street. What really are the chances of it being the threat instead of a drunk guy with a box cutter, or a bloke in the pub with a point to prove?

stubbs
07-30-2004, 04:44 AM
i think mcdojo's will thrive. i think about 80% of people that do martial arts don't really know what they're learning or why they're learning it. for some reason they're just there!

i think competitions like K1, Pride, NHB will become more popular but not necessarily receive a higher proportion of viewing time. TV programs a becoming more and more diverse so there's should always be a slot for them. I still think NHB type events are relatively new (well they are in England anyway) so they've still got some growing room in them.

for the majority, i think 'reality' martial arts instructors will find it hard to strive unless accomodate for majority of people that want very basic self defence with some fitness, fun and socialising mixed in. most people do martial arts in the leisure time so they'd like to keep it a 'leisurely' activity and not get too involved. depends on the instructor i guess, martial arts can be very marketable if you don't make it scary or too realistic. if they want to keep it realistic they can, but there wont be as many customers
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SPJ
07-30-2004, 06:19 AM
In combat sports, San Da and Shuai Jiao will catch on in China.

The gym Wushu will be persued as a gym activity in China.

China will not invade the world. The world invades China as always the case thruout history.

China will be the labor of all factories. There will be a revolution in politics not necessary change of government.

China will also be the biggest consumer markets. or EU or USA or Russia?

Politics will be a weaker central government and more local authories in China.

Yellow river, and Yang Tze river need dams or something to avoid yearly flood.

CMA or TCMA remain popular ONLY among Chinese ethnic.

CMA derivative is popular in non-chinese world.

Global business will make sure peace among all nations to make money flow.

Politics deal more with resources, pollutions and environment issues.

K-1 or NFB will keep evolving. People may still prefer the grand old boxing and pro-wrestling.

Liokault
07-30-2004, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by SPJ



China will not invade the world. The world invades China as always the case thruout history.

China will be the labor of all factories. There will be a revolution in politics not necessary change of government.

China will also be the biggest consumer markets. or EU or USA or Russia?


Global business will make sure peace among all nations to make money flow.



China will not only be the largets consumer, but will be the largest manufacturer and exporter.

As China and India get richer things will get much harder for the west.

I see it as pay back for years of Americans buying cheap Chinese goods from Wallmart and driving their own maunfacturing sector out of business:D .

Ray Pina
07-30-2004, 06:40 AM
What we see today will only continue, fighters getting very specific about what they want ... some good basic principles for the ground, some good safe kicking that causes damage and hands that annoy and slip in to cause some damage. MMA isn't going anywhere.

Now, as a wild card, in 50 years I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing some folks who have truly devoted themselves to learning real internal styles of fighting making a name for themselves .... there is an entire young generation at my master's school who are not learning fighting now, but just training excercises and gaining ability. We'll just have to sort out who has great fighting spirit in 10 years.

Also, Novell's (Black Toaist) crew, those guys are experementing and getting in there, too. The advantage is that these people will come out with a different aproach, different tactics that those expecting the low round house have not scene or felt before.

This is all very possible. It's up to our generation to truly understand and achieve what we are being taught and pass it on.

Merryprankster
07-30-2004, 07:52 AM
So where do you think MA will be in 50 years?

Round about the same place.

Will the ineffective ones have been washed out?

No

Will there still be mcdojos?

Yup. And some will be BJJ McDojos

Will everything have become a combination of Muay Thai and BJJ?

No.

Will kung fu still be too deadly for the ring?

As long as people think there is something "special" about CMA other than that it's Chinese, there will be Kung Fu that is too deadly for the ring.

Or do you think some other as-of-yet-unheard of MA will surface and start laying the smack down on all the MMA NHB guys that are dominating right now? Maybe it will be flying chi blasts. Oh man, that'd be awesome.

No, there will not be some as-yet-unheard of MA that will surface. From now on, it will only be unheard of people. The MMA re/evolution was a function of range inexperience and indifference. People wishing to fight MMA won't be making that mistake again. The bases for unarmed combat are covered now - on your feet or not on your feet.

Vash
07-30-2004, 08:39 AM
MP has taken the incorrect and p!ssed in it's cheerios.

Ford Prefect
07-30-2004, 10:39 AM
I agree 100% with MP. Nothing will change much at all.

Chang Style Novice
07-30-2004, 10:41 AM
Although with a little luck we'll finally get rid of spandex bikini briefs.