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IronFist
07-15-2001, 11:52 PM
Believe it or not, all dummies are NOT created equal.

http://www.akathedummywingchun.com/img22.gif

I'm laughing as hard as you guys

http://www.akathedummywingchun.com/img24.gif

http://www.martialarm.com/images/2.gif

http://www.allblackbelt.com/images/pvcwingchundummy.jpg

Is it just me or are the arms on this next one at way to wide of an angle?

http://www.4martialartssupplies.com/images/econwooddummy.jpg

http://www.moderndummy.com/Images/Original%20Dummy.JPG

http://www.theattach-mate.com/Gallery/pic1.jpg

Feel free to contribute,

Iron

kungfu cowboy
07-15-2001, 11:58 PM
LMAO!! :D Wow, those first two are doozies; and that guy in the last picture is scaring me. :(

E Pluribus Rectum

Sai Lo Jai
07-16-2001, 08:08 PM
I believe the 2nd one is meant for Choy Lee Fut, though I could be wrong.

To be fair, I don't think that one should be included here.

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IronFist
07-17-2001, 06:00 AM
No, its called "martial arm." It's supposed to be an "evolved" dummy or something, from their website. Hmm... looks like when a jong evolved, it lost 2 arms and a leg.

Iron

Sai Lo Jai
07-17-2001, 06:15 PM
After reviewing the entire site to which you refer and watching each video clip, I am even more convinced.

1. The movement of the arm is nearly identical to a Choy Lee Fut dummy's arm but with a second articulation at the elbow.

2. The techniques demonstrated are not Ving Tsun. The site claims they are from Karate and Jeet Kune Do.

3. The site makes no mention of of any Ving Tsun influence at all. There is, however, a banner ad from a martial arts supply store which sells some Ving Tsun supplies. Not surprisingly, they also sell many other supplies, including the "MartialArm."

4. The creator of the device says it was developed based on the theories of a Mr. Lawrence Lee. Mr. Lee practices an art which the site calls "Martial Science" or "Total Control." However, I suspect this is the same Lawrence Lee from Australia who taught an art called "Tong Keun Do," which I believe is a "Jeet Kune Do/Tang Soo Do Karate" variant.

All I'm saying is that if we are to judge what is and is not a decent dummy for practicing Ving Tsun, we must, at least, be in the right ball park. Otherwise, we would have to to discuss how effective dummies such as these would be for Ving Tsun training:

http://www.laerdal.com/isroot/Laerdal/images/product_img/rab_bls.jpg

http://www.the-forum.com/toys/images/danny.jpg

http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/photos/00007_3_32.jpg

http://www.ozcraft.com/scifidu/gump/gump_nixon.jpg

If we are not studying the other art to the level of knowledge required to understand the nature of it's dummy, then we are not qualified to comment on whether the other art's training apparatus is authentic.

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[This message was edited by Tom Kagan on 07-18-01 at 09:26 AM.]

Shadowboxer
07-18-2001, 12:47 AM
Hey,

FYI, I was watching the "Secret of the Snake and Crane" last night. They have a scene with a dummy in it that has 3 "arms" aligned vertically, high, mid and low positions.

S.Teebas
07-19-2001, 07:14 PM
nice eh!....

http://www.tcp.com/~mint/images7/wooden%20man%20dummy.jpg

kungfu cowboy
07-19-2001, 10:25 PM
Ah, at last! True craftmanship!

the adventurer, the bandito, the master

kungfu cowboy
07-20-2001, 12:39 AM
Is that a fence post?

the adventurer, the bandito, the master

old jong
07-20-2001, 03:12 AM
http://www.apbnews.com/media/gfiles/burns/images/burns.jpg
Hey!...Don't do that with a good cigar!... :eek:

old jong
07-20-2001, 03:15 AM
For those who are not old enough to understand,that last post was intended at Miss Lewansky particular use of cigars! ;)

rogue
07-20-2001, 05:08 AM
It's Lewinsky!!! Get the spelling of our national treasures right you, you, Canadian!!! :p


Rogue, you're an @ss!! Watchman

Adventure is just a romantic name for trouble. It sounds swell when you write about it, but it's hell when you meet it face to face in a dark and lonely place.
Louis L'Amour

BTW, did I mention that Rogue was an @ss? Watchman

rogue
07-20-2001, 05:26 AM
http://rhein-zeitung.de/freizeit/musik/galerie/georgemichael/michaelnew.jpg


Rogue, you're an @ss!! Watchman

Adventure is just a romantic name for trouble. It sounds swell when you write about it, but it's hell when you meet it face to face in a dark and lonely place.
Louis L'Amour

BTW, did I mention that Rogue was an @ss? Watchman

old jong
07-21-2001, 04:57 PM
O.K. Rogue!...I stand corrected! no reason to be such an uss! :D http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/Gif/SimpHomer.gif

old jong
07-21-2001, 05:07 PM
http://www.desertusa.com/mag98/may/stories/photos/sag.jpg
Before domestication! ;)

kungfu cowboy
07-21-2001, 08:32 PM
LOL, old jong! :D