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Unmatchable
08-31-2004, 06:07 PM
http://dankim79.sites.uol.com.br/disco_virtual/compartilhada/hkd_vs_bjj_final.wmv

or you can download it here:
http://www.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2622BEF9147C24E27B28D7E43CA4E8B6

the blond is bjj guy you can see him tryng the double leg and a kimura.

the other guy is a hkd guy.
ShaolinTiger00
08-31-2004, 10:22 PM
If you think ANYONE is fighting in MMA without cross training in different styles you are mistaken.
Go Jun Long
09-01-2004, 04:22 AM
So are you saying that HKD cannot beat BJJ without crosstraining?

It did look like the BJJ guy was injured before the fight, but he really should have tried to fight back a little more than he did. Not a good day for BJJ!:D
Ray Pina
09-01-2004, 06:47 AM
Didn't a straight Judoka just win in the UFC
Shaolinlueb
09-01-2004, 11:41 AM
look at the guy in the rightside in the back around 2 minutes, wtf is with that?
ShaolinTiger00
09-01-2004, 11:52 AM
So are you saying that HKD cannot beat BJJ without crosstraining?

You failed reading comprehension. next!



Didn't a straight Judoka just win in the UFC

Karo Parisan is trained by Gokor and is certainly very skilled in judo & sambo but also trains his standup abilites..

seriously kids.. You'd have to be an idiot to walk out into today's talent pool with only one dimension in your fight game. Even the best grapplers train standup boxing or muay thai and the strikers train wrestling and enough bjj to L&P.
Go Jun Long
09-02-2004, 04:27 AM
:D
WinterPalm
09-02-2004, 10:19 AM
I think a style of martial arts that does not cover all the ranges is limited. So if your teacher only teaches ground fighting, kicking, punching, or strictly forms, then you are missing out on a complete art. I think this is why people feel the need to crosstrain because the system they train in is limited and does not cover the whole range. But to cross traing for the UFC, I think if one has reached a level of competency in their choosen art, they can make it work in any situation. But, that said, I think crosstraining for a fight like taht would involve sparring, using your choosen theory of fightin, against different people who use different approaches and sticking to what you've been taught. This probably takes a long time to develop.
IronFist
09-03-2004, 05:00 PM
A non-MMA guy beating a MMA guy doesn't neccessarily prove anything.

Many non-MMA guys being many MMA guys might prove something.
anerlich
09-05-2004, 10:33 PM
A number of Hapkido instructors and their students here cross train in BJJ. One of them came 2nd in the Machado BJJ nationals recently.

Why not crosstrain? What is there to be afraid of? Learning something new?