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yellowpikachu
09-27-2004, 07:54 PM
Is there really an advance SLT needed?

if yes, what is the "advance " is about?


What is the ultimte state a SLT or an advance SLT state can be reached? and who has reached that state in the past and present?

Savi
09-27-2004, 08:01 PM
Anybody know what character from South Park said this line?

"There are no stupid questions, only stupid people."

This character did advanced SLT with one hand...

anerlich
09-27-2004, 08:39 PM
TWC has "SLT" and "Advanced SLT" forms.

The "Advanced" SLT has a slightly larger structure, more footwork and (some) movements requiring greater coordination, designed to develop different atrtributes.

"Advanced" also refers to its place in the TWC pedagogy, as it is taught after the generic "SLT".

"Advanced" may be a misnomer, "version 2" would be just as applicable.

FWIW, my instructor now teaches a version which has much more footwork than that normally taught in TWC schools.

In any case, forms are frameworks for exploration (as Ray said in another thread, you "study" the form, not just "do" it) and variations in sequence, footwork etc. are IMO to be encouraged.

Double arm chi sao is arguably more "advanced" than single arm, but the sensible student continues to practise both, as the latter continues to develop specific attributes and attributes not totally addressed by the latter.

todi laugin
09-28-2004, 03:52 PM
The longer you study the more advanced the basics will seem.

Ultimatewingchun
09-29-2004, 08:11 AM
Has anyone ever seen yellowpikachu and Hendrik Santo (phenix) in the same room together at the same time?

If so....please report that sighting to the forum troll hotline immediately.

yellowpikachu
09-29-2004, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by Ultimatewingchun
Has anyone ever seen yellowpikachu and Hendrik Santo (phenix) in the same room together at the same time?

If so....please report that sighting to the forum troll hotline immediately.


Phenix was the upgrade version of Hendrik Santo. Yellowpikachu is the upgrade version of Phenix.

So, are they in the same room together at the same time?
Is that the Trinity?

Call the Ghostbuster!
:D

Bartje
09-29-2004, 12:17 PM
Hi Hendrik/Phenix/YellowPicachu

I understand that you are very close related. Two of you are upgraded versions of the previous one. The last two of you write the same kind of messages

What is the difference between the different upgraded versions?

thx

Bartje:)

Rhat
09-29-2004, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by Bartje
What is the difference between the different upgraded versions?

"the previous one"

1/4 of the front page was occupied by Hendrik!!!!

"the different upgraded versions?"

Now, 3/4 plus....

stonecrusher69
09-29-2004, 02:48 PM
I don't think you need another or advance SLT form.When you improve and become more skillfull in time the SLT becomes more advaced.as you make mprovements and higer skill level. The form changes as you change.From an external point of view it appears to look the same but internally you've changed which changes the forn in the process.

YongChun
09-29-2004, 03:42 PM
Yes, two people can do the form the same way but one is a beginner with one months experience and the other has spent a lifetime fighting and studying the concepts within the form. The second person is doing the advanced Siu Lim Tao even though it looks exactly the same. No matter how you permute or modify the movements of the SLT form, it will still be a beginner form until you put in the time to really train and investigate all the ideas contained in that form. Of course if you strip the form down to half the number of concepts then you might be missing something, which undoubtedly you would discover during fighting.

The modern trend is to learn both striking and grappling. A guy that starts martial arts young can easily learn both. Five years of training put into each is plenty of good quality time. I would train grappling first and hitting next. Maybe BJJ, then Thai Boxing, then Filipino stick and knife fighting and then some formal Asian martial art or sticking to one of the previous three, is a good progression to cover all the bases.