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Ironwind
09-30-2004, 07:01 PM
Just broke up and I don't feel like training or moving or typing or asking this question but I need an Answer.

How long do you think this will last and is thier an answer for the way i feel in Chinese Zen?

Help.......

Please; I feel pathetic

and weak

like a white belt.......... no stripes.


Help.!!!!!!!!!!!

Serpent
09-30-2004, 07:56 PM
Hey dude, breakups suck, but life goes on. Get your ass into class and train like you've never trained before. You want to stop feeling so down? Train so hard that you can't feel anything except the pain of the next technique.

Check out the last quote in my sig.

Toby
09-30-2004, 08:25 PM
It'll last for a good time if you were tight. Do some bagwork. Letting out aggression helps me with stress.

Ironwind
10-09-2004, 08:09 AM
Thanks for the support.

My punching bag is a little Ghetto.

I hung it by intertubes thinking that i would'nt need any one to hold it.

I know I'm not supposed to axe kick the bag but I did and I broke the intertubes. Now my bag is a bean bag chair.

Ego_Extrodinaire
10-09-2004, 08:23 AM
yes . break ups make you stronger emotionally and when you use that emotion to work out with as you're getting over it, your ma improves

Shadow Skill
10-10-2004, 01:22 PM
Now that you don't have to spend time and effort ona relationship you can spend more time traing and reaching your goal fo being a sifu

premier
10-21-2004, 02:38 PM
Training is propably a good way to try to get over it. But I wouldn't necessarily do qigong or meditation. The inward look just deepens the depression.

Serpent
10-21-2004, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by premier
Training is propably a good way to try to get over it. But I wouldn't necessarily do qigong or meditation. The inward look just deepens the depression.
That's not necessarily true, it depends on your practice. I can gain great peace with my Qi Gong.

Ego_Extrodinaire
10-21-2004, 08:42 PM
agreed! beyond the confusion and ill - self - take and anger etc is a nicely greener pasture of higher awareness, maturity and inner strength. Buy yourself a a boxing bag and take your feelings out on it until you're calm and peaceful.

Ps: feeling some hardcore workouts comming on for yourself ;)

Zenshiite
10-26-2004, 04:48 PM
If you allow your emotions to reach excesses of depression you will deplete your Chi.

Don't let that happen, or you'll be taking some nasty herbal concotions in order to recover from the resulting imbalance.

Peace,
Dawud

foolinthedeck
10-28-2004, 11:44 AM
a break up is a very dynamic time
you are both moving forwards
so, use this dynamism, actually it can be a great time for training when looked at form the right perspective.

monkeyfoot
10-28-2004, 03:51 PM
I myself dont think that the path of 'train and punch the bag to relieve your stress' is one to take. I would never use training as an option to get passed such emotional stress because I feel that by doing it you're simply trying to push away your problems by focusing on something else.
I would meditate and handle my sadness with my mind. I would search for a clearness and unity within myself where I no longer felt sad by my breakup. The idea of punching your sorrows away is just a path of clouded minds and supressed feelings.

find an inner peace and then carry on with life.

craig

Zenshiite
10-28-2004, 08:40 PM
Word. Well said.

Plus what i said about excessive emotions draining chi and causing imbalance. That will effect your kung fu.

Peace,
Dawud

Serpent
11-07-2004, 09:48 PM
You're missing the point. If a breakup makes you feel sad, why cast aside your training as well? Then you've lost two loves in quick succession.

Train the body hard, take thoughts from your mind while you train and keep yourself in shape and in skills. Your meditations then, the ones you use to sort through the emotions, will be a lot more effective.

One is not mutually exclusive to the other.

pedro_sanchez
11-13-2004, 02:34 AM
Probably the best way to get over a break up is to continue training. Like others have said, train even harder. I know for me, I am extremely happy when training.

Meditation will help. I meditate by praying to Allah. However you meditate will clear you mind and put you at ease. Don't run from the hurt either, live with it for a while. As the saying goes, time heals all wounds. Let time have a crack at it. But then again what do I know, I'm happily married........all stuck in this prison cell:D

digitalmantis
11-29-2004, 04:08 PM
I have had numerous disastrous breakups. In fact I'm going through one right now. I have dealt with these in 2 different manners, one was helpful the other destructive.

I'll start with the destructive one.

- I stopped training, started to drink more than I should have been, earned a DUI, quit my job,(turned my keys in and walked out), trashed my apt., left my teacher and club w/out notice, keyed my X's car, which I had to pay for (how mature was that)? , relocated geographically and started my life over. Did it help?

Not really. The issues I had are still there and I'm still dealing with them to this day. The difference is that I'm doing it correctly now.

For instance:

I broke up with my most recent g/f last month. Here is how I'm handling it.

- Staying social, going out with friends, doing constructive things, staying focused on my career, I haven't neglected my hobbies, my training , my family or my health. I've done a lot of soul searching instead of blaming and even gone as far as to seek the counsel of someone who can listen to my distress with a non-biased opinion.

The result? I've gotten much closer to the girl who I thought I couldn't be with, my training has gotten more intense than ever before, I'm much healthier mentally and physically, I've made new friends and developed a new social life.

Oh, and yes Meditation is key. Let your emotions flow, cry if you have to do a lot of it, it's healty and you'll feel much better when it's all said and done.

just my $.02

PangQuan
12-10-2004, 11:36 AM
If your still young, forget about the girls. All you should be doing at this point in your life is practicing your Kung Fu. So as I see it you have two options. Either you go start training right now and get over it, or you need to just give up all hope and quite training right now. It is your decision, dont feel sorry for yourself, I know I may be coming off a bit hard, but hey, life is hard, and this is the simple truth. What ever happens happens. If it was not meant to be then it was not meant to be. Everyone is born into this world with a role to play.

TaiChiBob
12-10-2004, 12:48 PM
Greetings..


Everyone is born into this world with a role to play. indeed, and that role is one of creator.. create your own sorrow or joy, you're the only one who can.. Life is defined by change, change is life, itself.. we may not like some of the changes, but to let it throw us off our path is a weakness.. each day, each moment is a new beginning.. a new choice to create yourself in your highest and best dream.. there is only opportunity and possibility ahead of you, unless you are too busy looking in the rear-view mirror to see the road ahead..

And, yes.. embrace your sorrow, feel its pain.. it is from those depths that you can compare even higher joys.. it is the extremes in our lives that set the limits of the human experience.. in a paradoxical way you can be grateful for the broader range of experience you now have, it will expand equally in the opposite direction and you will feel joys at the same intensity with which you feel this sorrow..

your kung fu is not your lover, it is your spirit.. it will be there no matter what.. respect it for what it is, and it is not an escape.. it is a path you have chosen that speaks of your character and spirit.. celebrate whou YOU are..

Be well..

kyklos
12-15-2004, 01:02 AM
Spend my days with a woman unkind,
smoked my stuff and drank all my wine,
made up my mind to make a new start,
goin to california with an achin in my heart.

Someone told me there's a girl out there,
with love in her eyes and flowers in her hair.
Took my chances on a big jet plane,
never let em tell you that their all the same,

The sea was red and the sky was grey,
wonder how tomorow could ever follow today,
Mountains and the canyons start to tremble and shake,
the children of the sun begin to awake.

It seems that the wrath of the gods god a punch on the nose and its startin to flow I think I might be sinkin.
Throw me a line if I reach it in time,
meet you up there were the path runs straight and high.

find me a Queen without a king,
they say she plays guitar and cries and sings
ride a white mare in the footsteps of dawn,
tryin to find a woman who's never never been born.

Standin on a hill my mountain of dreams,
tellin myself its not as hard as it seems.

you may feel :(
but i promise you'll look back on it with:)

Royal Dragon
01-01-2005, 05:35 PM
Me, I'm not the type to bond deeply with others period, but when I do, I bond 110%. So for me break ups are prettty crippling for quite sometime. I just went through a very hard one, and to be honest, I'm still messed up over it.

I've found fighitng the depression does me no good. I generaly quit training at first, sleep alot more, and find my self going out on long high speed drives (Often 140 mph +) and end up out alone with the 8 ball at my favorite pool hall alot.

Once that phase is done, I start to cling excessively to my dearest friends (People that are family to me), and go out with them ALOT!!

After that, wake up and realise my appartment is trashed from neglect, and I start cleaning like crazy. I feel this is the begining of my healing phase.

The final step is to get back into my training, and start surfing Match.com again.

I have found that if I don'tgo through each of these steps in turn, at thier own pace, I get stuck and can't move on. So basically I don't fight it, and go with the flow of my moods untill I come back to the training phase on my own. Once I get there, I can't stop myself. I often make the best strides in progress and undestanding that way.

Tai Chi Shawn
01-03-2005, 09:18 PM
Girls can screw everything up. They don't even need to train to defeat your Kung Fu. Women are proof that God has a sense of humour, and also that He's simultaneously cruel.

Train. Train your ass off. Don't let one thing get mixed up with the other.

shawn
ps ... I'm truly not bitter :) women are my favourite passtime.

Scythefall
01-04-2005, 01:25 PM
These suggestions to beat on a bag or to ignore chi gung because you might have to deal with the inner turmoil are absolutely horrible. Wearing yourself out or otherwise avoiding an issue until it "doesn't bother you anymore" is the worst step you can take. Any deep emotional issue needs to be dealt with as it is occurring or it will come back later in life in one form or another. Generally, you will want to make yourself acutely aware of everything that happened to lead to the breakup. Replay the ending in your head until your mind, body, and spirit say "I must have another purpose, i need to get going to find out what that is."

You'll find your strength again though.

digitalmantis
01-05-2005, 10:53 AM
all these suggestions are well and good but we must remember that eveyrone handles emotional issues differently. What works for one may not work for the other. I do however agree that when a break up occurs careful self-examination needs to take place. If we find that the fault is within us we apologize to the affected party and move forward. If the fault is within the other party we forgive them using our compassion and move forward.
In any case we must move forward and keep a positive outlook.

I'm going through it so I know it's not easy. I broke up with the love of my life in October later I realized I made a mistake breaking up with her and when I asked her for a second chance she more or less told me f.k U! Now I'm taking advantage of being single and doing all of the things I couldn't when I was with her. I'm also using this time to correct all the behaviours that led to our problems. Even if I don't get back with her I won't make the same mistakes again.

:-) Live and learn.