Sub-Epidermal Cyst

[CaptinPickAxe]

I have a cyst over my left kidney. I've had it for about 3 years now. It started off the size of a b.b. and now has grow to the size of a skittle. I went to the doctor about 2 years ago and they said it was a sub-epidermal cyst and was nothing to worry about. Lately, its been feeling like its cramping up and it hurts a little, but not when I touch or press on it.

Whats the deal? What causes cysts? What can be done about it? Is there alternatives to surgery? Can it be cancer?

Its actually a little scary...:(

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

cysts are filled with either air, pus or if polinidal, likely foreign bodies. or if involving the kidneys are filled with water. They are caused by infection or contamination from foreign substances, or clogging of sebaceous glands, in this case the lymphatic system. It is extremely unlikely that it will result in a cancer and it it's probably inflamed because of either the amount of fluid you're drinking ( insufficient) or the acidity of it, possibley combined with a bump.

THere are some great teas and such that you can buy from any pharmacy, naturapath or your local tcm doctor that will flush your lymphatic system and should clear it up fairly rapidly. I don't think you're going to die, but talk to a professional in alternative theraphies and once its reduced, take extra care with fluids for a bit and you'll be peachy.

Ego

[Serpent]

Here's (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000842.htm) a link that might help a bit.

Michelle, you were almost correct there. Most of what you said was actually about right. Is it a Blue Moon today?

However:


They are caused by infection or contamination from foreign substances, or clogging of sebaceous glands, in this case the lymphatic system.

This has nothing to do with the lymphatic system.


It is extremely unlikely that it will result in a cancer

If it is indeed a cyst as described, it will certainly not "become" a cancer.


it's probably inflamed because of either the amount of fluid you're drinking ( insufficient) or the acidity of it, possibley combined with a bump.

This is random speculation. Where do you get these ideas from?


Ego

You're not Kelvin. Stop pretending that you are.

Otherwise, not bad. You should try to post like that more often.

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

Serpant,

Blockage of Lymphatic system and cysts:
http://www.007b.com/fibrocystic_doctors.php

Example of cysts that can develop into cancer: A cystadenoma of the pancreas is a tumor composed of fluid-filled cysts along with glandular tissue. These tumors are most often benign, but they occasionally develop into cancer.

The name's ego not michelle and I'm not Kelvin.

Here's a link from medline plus medical encyclopedia on kidney cysts and their relation to lymphatic glands :- www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003240.htm

Serpant :- enjoy your bitter public wrongness.:rolleyes:

[Serpent]

Originally posted by Ego_Extrodinaire
Serpant,

Blockage of Lymphatic system and cysts:
http://www.007b.com/fibrocystic_doctors.php

He's not talking about a fybrocystic lump.


Example of cysts that can develop into cancer: A cystadenoma of the pancreas is a tumor composed of fluid-filled cysts along with glandular tissue. These tumors are most often benign, but they occasionally develop into cancer.

The cyst is dermal (or sub dermal), not on his kidney.


The name's ego not michelle and I'm not Kelvin.

You are obviously Michelle. Everybody knows it, so quit the facade.


Here's a link from medline plus medical encyclopedia on kidney cysts and their relation to lymphatic glands :- www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003240.htm

Serpant :- enjoy your bitter public wrongness.:rolleyes:
See previous comments.

But I'm impressed - you even provided links! Now all we need is for you to provide links that are relevant to the point.

[CaptinPickAxe]

Thanks for the info, friends, but niether of your links worked. Got anything else. Its not on my Kidney ( I think I would have pain urinating if it was) and was diagnosed as a '"sub-epidermal cyst". I'm just worried because it has doubled in size in the past 3 years.

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

Originally posted by CaptinPickAxe
I have a cyst over my left kidney...:(

:confused:

is this some kinda hoax / test your knowledge thing???

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

Originally posted by Serpent
He's not talking about a fybrocystic lump.

The cyst is dermal (or sub dermal), not on his kidney.

You are obviously Michelle. Everybody knows it, so quit the facade.

See previous comments.

But I'm impressed - you even provided links! Now all we need is for you to provide links that are relevant to the point.

Look Serpie, if you search google on cysts, the medline link from the med encylo is one of the first you'll get.. have a read , come back and tell me it's irreleavant with a straight face. Ps: B and I always posted links, but some trolls 'd rather prove ( logicise / declare and bs ) a guy wrong than read the thing! :rolleyes:

Ps: according to his diagnosis, the cyst is either attatched to or under his kidney.......

CPa: if you want advice, pls be clear and spedcific..especially if you're genuinely concerned....... not web-doctors, but we'll do our best to alleviate your problem.

[CaptinPickAxe]

Over, ego, over.


Not on. There is a difference. Its not underneath the muscle. I have been very clear and my story has not changed.

[Ming Yue]

as a general rule of thumb CPA, any anomaly you have that changes or gets worse (bigger) over time should be a question for your doctor.


:)

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

Originally posted by CaptinPickAxe
Over, ego, over.


Not on. There is a difference. Its not underneath the muscle. I have been very clear and my story has not changed.

agree with Ming here, but for claritys sake, the cyst is over your kidney but not attatched to? So where exactly is it?? Have a general interest myself so thx for giving me something to consider.

[CaptinPickAxe]

Ego, ego, ego...
You just earned your "Excuse me, I'm a retard" sign.

lets see. Whats under the skin, but over the internal organs?

A.bone
B. God
C. Trombone
D. Muscle

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

:rolleyes: forget it.

[Ming Yue]

oooo!! OOOOO!!


Trombone! Trombone!

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

you are such an unsexy geek !! don't feel too bad though, alot of ppl dig that :rolleyes: :cool:

[Serpent]

Originally posted by Ego_Extrodinaire
you are such an unsexy geek !! don't feel too bad though, alot of ppl dig that :rolleyes: :cool:
You know, Michelle, Ming Yue is the epitome of sexy and you are the complete opposite. Only YOU believe otherwise.

CPA's original post was perfectly clear, but because your brain (and I use that term loosely) runs at 100mph in neutral all the time you just saw random words in his first post, thought you knew everything and went rabidly into a completely irrelevant discussion about breast lumps and cysts on kidneys.

You are the idiot here, once again. Why don't you try to slow down and actually read something, then pause to think about it? If you did that you would realise that you actually know jack sh!t about most things discussed here and then you might be able to shut the fvck up and learn something.

And don't pretend that you're not Michelle, because everybody here knows that you are.

[Serpent]

By the way, CPA - aside from the usual blooming mess that has erupted here, this is the most relevant post so far really:

Originally posted by Ming Yue
as a general rule of thumb CPA, any anomaly you have that changes or gets worse (bigger) over time should be a question for your doctor.


:)

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

shooting for cerebus' spot ha? :rolleyes: the guy said kidney then revoked it. No personal investment so not fussed.

names Ego btw.

[Becca]

Originally posted by Ego_Extrodinaire
... the guy said kidney then revoked it. No personal investment so not fussed.


Originally posted by CaptinPickAxe
I have a cyst over my left kidney. I've had it for about 3 years now. It started off the size of a b.b. and now has grow to the size of a skittle. I went to the doctor about 2 years ago and they said it was a sub-epidermal cyst and was nothing to worry about. Lately, its been feeling like its cramping up and it hurts a little, but not when I touch or press on it.

Does it helpto see it side-by-side with pertinant spots italisized?

[Ming Yue]

oh yea, degrade into comments about my looks as usual.
:rolleyes:

he said it was "over" his kidney, not on it. read the very first post again.

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

if you care to explore the meaning of sub-epidermal, you may want to review your thoughts.

Ps: who gives a **** about asthetics, alah BL, with the right hair / make up and training regime, anyone's a supermodel....... kinda troll-headed myself so laugh me off! Besides, Serps already said you were a glam, so stop sweating.

[Ming Yue]

the epidermis is comprised of two layers, the dead layer of skin on the outside, and the living cells and free nerve endings of the epidermis.


The sub-epidermal layers are the dermis and hypodermis, which contains hair follicles and oil glands and sweat glands and nerve receptors, arteries, veins and smooth muscle.

http://www.bmb.psu.edu/courses/bisci004a/tissues/tissnote.htm

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

right!!!

so sub-epidermal is not exactly specific now is it.

[Ming Yue]

Uh.. yes it's extremely specific, the term sub-epidermal relates specifically to the layers I just described. Nevermind.



________
BTW Serp, thanks for the compliment. Give Mrs. Serpent a big wet kiss for training you correctly.

:)

[CaptinPickAxe]

I'm telling you, MY. Darwinism is just waiting to pick this one off.

Hey, Ego...er....Bloooming Lotus...uh...Kelv....**** it, your new name is super retard. I hear that when you put a fork in a power outlet a little gnome will come out and give you five dollars! Quick! Go try before someone else steals your five dollars!

[Serpent]

Once again, Michelle, only you think you're right while everyone else knows you're wrong.

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

that area or layer , given the size of the growth is quite comparatively large. forget it. lost interest really anyway. At least I gave the guy something if only a medical enyclopedia link.

whatever.

[CaptinPickAxe]

then what are you still doing here?

no, don't answer it! Just shut up and stay off the thread if its too much for you to comprehend.

[CaptinPickAxe]

a link that didn't work, retard

[Serpent]

Originally posted by Ego_Extrodinaire
that area or layer , given the size of the growth is quite comparatively large. forget it. lost interest really anyway. At least I gave the guy something if only a medical enyclopedia link.

whatever.
You gave him a link to fibrocystic breast lumps and and a link to cysts on a kidney, neither of which had the slightest relevance to his question, you barking feral loon.

WRONG. That's what you are. Again.

Go away - you're banned.

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

Serpant,

If you know anything about cancer, it is early prevention that saves you. So in doubt get a check up for any growth that looks suspicious.

EE

[Becca]

Eggo, this type of cyst is fluid filled and benign. (that meens it isn't aggresively harmfull to the host) The only real issue with it is one of comfort, as it is too small to rupture at this point, and not in an area that it could put presure on a nerve.

[Serpent]

Are you learning yet, Bleggo?

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

Becca,

Too much risk to make that assumption. Best to test what's in the fluid before drawing that conclusion.

[Becca]

If it's an assumtion, that it was a doc who made it. I believe the fact a doctor was consulted was mentioned several times.

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

You should see a specialist for that, a normal doctor may not have the equipment to do a comprehensive scan.

[Becca]

How comprehensive do you need to get?!? Never mind... I know you are just trying in vain to keep from admitting you went off on a funky, unrelated tangent...

[Serpent]

Again. And she means funky in a bad way.

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

Becca,

It depends on the particular situation. Sometimes the specialist will monitor it for a certain period to measure its growth. Whether arteries are supplying blood ot the growth is also a factor.

[Ming Yue]

therein lies one key difference between a cyst and a tumor. cysts are not directly supplied by blood vessels. Ever.

They increase in size as fluid accumulates and either burst or simply go away. They are harmless unless they interfere (because of physical size) with tissue or organ function.

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

Ming Yue,

That's what I'm saying. if the growth is not supplied by blood vessels it is likely not to be as bad. If it's canceres the gowth may not be as fast with all other factors being constant.

[Ming Yue]

it's not cancer, it's a cyst as diagnosed by his doctor. It won't become cancer and is unrelated to cancer. It's a cyst.

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

Ming Yue,

The fact that the cyst is growing in size sugguest that there is some irritant which in itself is a concern becaue it may become cancerous. If I have strange growths happening in my organs I would like to have it whacked out just to be on the safe side and test the fluids to see if it is indeed cancer.

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

Originally posted by Ego_Extrodinaire
Serpant,

If you know anything about cancer, it is early prevention that saves you. So in doubt get a check up for any growth that looks suspicious.

EE

Ps: the link was from a general searchon google on "cyst" . thx for the troll anyway, that sentimental stuff gets me everytime! :rolleyes:

[CaptinPickAxe]

The fact that the cyst is growing in size sugguest that there is some irritant which in itself is a concern becaue it may become cancerous. If I have strange growths happening in my organs I would like to have it whacked out just to be on the safe side and test the fluids to see if it is indeed cancer.

It has been said time and time again that cyst do not become cancers, simpleton. My cyst is not on an internal organ. When will you get that through your thick skull? Its called reading comprehension. The longer this thread goes on, the more I think you aren't reading any of the posts, but trying just to get a stir out of us. You've added absolutely nothing to this thread but discourse. So I ask you, for the sake of the conversation about something that is really bothering me, STAY OFF MY THREAD! You should know anything you touch turns to sh!t...hell, you are sh!t, and you need to be flushed.

[Serpent]

Once more for the slow of comprehension:

A doctor diagnosed CPA's thing as a cyst. Not a tumor.

A cyst is not a tumor and can't become one.

A cyst increasing in size is likely due to a buildup of the pus or fatty tissue that originally caused the cyst.

The pain from a cyst is usually due to it's proximity to nerve endings.

There is no blood supply to a cyst.

A doctor diagnosed this as a cyst.

CPA is concerned as it is growing and painful.

CPA - go to the doctor and have him check it out. It may be infected, but it's slow growth means it's more likely just irritated. Sometimes you can even squeeze 'em like zits! ;)

Mrs Serpent has often "lanced" a cyst I have/had on my back manually. Unfortunately her fun is over now as the cyst retreated and hid.

My cyst, for what it's worth, would often increase in size and get sensitive. A good squeezin' would often alleviate this. However, if your cyst is deeper this may not be an option. Either way, get your doc to have a look. Maybe he'll squeeze it for you! ;)

Bleggo - go away. You're banned.

And you're wrong.

Again.

[CaptinPickAxe]

ewww....

Mine is too deep. It has no head like a zit. It doesn't even show.

[norther practitioner]

I'm sure there are a few around here that'd be happy to punch the sh!t out of that thing.


/Best Arnold impression/

It's not a Tumaaa

/End transmital as the gubenator/

[Serpent]

Yeah, mine never had a head, but Mrs Serp discovered it could still be "manually drained"! ;) It was pretty near the surface all the same. If yours is deeper, then it's more likely to be blocked from any pores in the skin. Go and see your doc just to be sure, man.

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

just on your if statement alone, there's room for varying placement. I don't give a shyt how much public face the kid needs to save, he got some good links and advice from me. It's likely not cancerous, but if the dude is concerned he should see a professional for a 2nd opinion.

aint face a b*tch!


Np :- :D :D ;) :cool: :rolleyes:

[Serpent]

Originally posted by Ego_Extrodinaire
just on your if statement alone, there's room for varying placement. I don't give a shyt how much public face the kid needs to save, he got some good links and advice from me. It's likely not cancerous, but if the dude is concerned he should see a professional for a 2nd opinion.

aint face a b*tch!


Np :- :D :D ;) :cool: :rolleyes:
Shut up.

[Ming Yue]

Mrs. Serpent is a freakin' saint and you should shower her with gifts daily.

:D

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

Serpant,

That is so sick, having miss serpant squeeze your cyst like some teenage pimple and then slowly drain its juices. Have you thought of seeing a doctor to have it fixed.

I haven't seen a picture of you, but I imagine you to be covered with all this cysts that need to be attended to reguarly. This is so sick eventough it is not cancerous.

You should see a dermatologist (doctor who specializes in skin) instead of performing homegrown remedies with a sewing needle.

[CaptinPickAxe]

Hey, NP, I'd love to see someone try to get to that spot with out a few teeth being knocked out along the way. I have the demeanor of a disgruntled old man these days, and I'm only 20! But I fight like hungry, rabid Pitbull that's been poked with a sharp stick for the past couple of weeks....in other words, I'm game if anyone wants to try and help relive me of my cyst pains...but you gotta work for it;)


Hey, Ego, come try to drain my cyst...I dare you.

[Serpent]

Originally posted by Ming Yue
Mrs. Serpent is a freakin' saint and you should shower her with gifts daily.

:D
She is and I do! ;)

[CaptinPickAxe]

I've been testy since I've cut back on smoking pot. I'm no longer the tree-hugging hippy CPA you've learned to love. No, no, no. I'm now living up to the stereotype that all Texans are beer swilling, fight starting, loudmouths.:D

I'm cocky and ballsy...thats a dangerous combination.

[Serpent]

And it gives you cysts.

[Serpent]

Or, at least, it makes the cysts you've got get bigger. :eek:

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

Originally posted by CaptinPickAxe
I
I'm cocky and ballsy...thats a dangerous combination.

and willing to learn and listen occassionally which is less so

Serpent : glad to hear it ( 1st to last post that is )

[CaptinPickAxe]

I am always willing to learn and listen....when you have something worth learning.

Otherwise, I just ignore the f#$@ outta you.

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

fairly standard for us all I'd say ;)

[Serpent]

Yes, Michelle, it's fairly standard for all of us to ignore the fvck outta you. I only read along because I enjoy exposing your numerous errors.

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

Originally posted by Serpent
Yes, Michelle, it's fairly standard for all of us to ignore the fvck outta you. .


like this post above ( being you believe that's who I am) so nicely demonstrates :rolleyes:

[Serpent]

Try reading the whole post, idiot.

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

on a personal mission to show her the errors of her ways ha??? I'm sure she appreciates it :rolleyes: ;)

[Serpent]

Originally posted by Ego_Extrodinaire
on a personal mission to show her the errors of her ways ha??? I'm sure she appreciates it :rolleyes: ;)
Do you appreciate it? Stop pretending to be Ego.

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

you can read the user name! I am Ego!! :confused:

[Serpent]

Originally posted by Ego_Extrodinaire
you can read the user name! I am Ego!! :confused:
Why do persist in this facade. I'm almost embarrassed for you.

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

Serpant,

I am ego, why do you persist with your own delusions.

[Serpent]

I'm going to start a new thread in the main forum. You watch how it unfolds. You'll know the one I mean.

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

Serpant,

whaaaaaat eveeeeeer :rolleyes: you don't have to come to me for permission like a kid. If you need to go do a wee just go, and come back when you have finished.

[Serpent]

Your reading comprehension is as accurate as ever. I didn't ask you for permission. I told you what I was going to do so that you could go and see for yourself.

By gad, you're stupid.

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

Serpant,

"By gad".

Who's gad? short for gladdus your aunt hahahahahaha

[CaptinPickAxe]

That was by far the dumbest joke I've ever heard, BL.

And for god's sake, how can you misspell a name thats one post up?

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

Originally posted by Ego_Extrodinaire
Serpant,

"By gad".

Who's gad? short for gladdus your aunt hahahahahaha


you're right CPA






bwahahahahahahaha

[Ego_Extrodinaire]

CPA ah you won't know.

Serpant would know what Snake humor's all about especially when he runs into lady Snake.