12 minute mantis documentary video [Archive]

Chief Fox

12-16-2004, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by Reggie1
How'd you find this?

That's my sifu.

Saw the link on another forum. Thought the people here might enjoy. I study praying mantis but it's not a full praying mantis curriculum. You should feel lucky that you have a school like this in your area.

Reggie1

12-16-2004, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by Chief Fox
You should feel lucky that you have a school like this in your area.

Trust me, I do. Every time I go train.

unixfudotnet

12-16-2004, 01:21 PM

Dang, I used to live in Austin, TX.

Seems like a good school, and a good sifu. His kungfu looks amazing and seems like he would be an amazing teacher, and understands everything :)

No offense to my school, but if I was in Austin again, definitely would have to give it a shot :)

Reggie1

12-16-2004, 02:46 PM

He's an incredible teacher. Of course, I'd naturally say that since I'm his student :)

But in this case I really mean it.

loki

12-16-2004, 04:27 PM

Sifu Jeff Hughes... great guy. He was just at our school Monday and last night.

Pilot

12-17-2004, 03:27 PM

Very nice video. I can tell this Sifu can walk the walk! ;) This reminds me of one of the things that impressed me about Mantis Kung Fu (I currently take 8 Step Preying Mantis.) It was the fact that the Sifu’s appearances were always deceiving. Unlike Karate and other hard styles you see no bent noses, broken knuckles, broken toes, cauliflower ears, etc. They look like your average all American school guys, and you wouldn’t think they could fight just looking at them. I fully know this not to be true (ouch.):p

Reggie1

12-18-2004, 07:37 AM

They look like your average all American school guys, and you wouldn’t think they could fight just looking at them. I fully know this not to be true (ouch.)

He looks nice and all in the video, but when you meet him face to face he doesn't come off as your average all American school guy. And GOOD LORD is he fast.

HearWa

12-25-2004, 05:19 PM

That video and this forum is restoring my faith in the Chinese martial arts, one mantis step at a time!:D I had to download the file over a 56K modem THREE TIMES as well as re-install Windows to watch it and it was still worth the work.

He has excellent technique, plus his explanations for working on forms wasn't the usual "if masters of the past worked on this, I'm not the one to argue." He has obviously put alot of thought into the CMA.

Does he have good students? Do they spar often, and apply what they learn? I'd love to see that!

EarthDragon

12-26-2004, 05:40 PM

Piolt,
Question for you.......... would you happen to be a student of my kung fu brother peter ray?

Nice clip, I love to see people promote our art in a positive way.

sayloc

12-29-2004, 08:29 AM

The wang lang story is a believable as the taoist immortal stories.

Seems the chinese like to tell stories.

Pilot

12-29-2004, 06:24 PM

EarthDragon:
Yes Sifu :)

Radplaiddude

01-14-2005, 07:02 PM

Watching him move all i could see was a mantis. The guy is awesome.

JaguarWarrior

11-24-2005, 08:58 PM

This link is broken for me. Is there anyone who know's where I can find this mantis documentary?

Corwyn

11-25-2005, 08:47 AM

yes, it's not working for me either.

MantisWarrior

11-25-2005, 09:07 AM

yeah same here and i really REALLY want to see it!! :(

HearWa

11-25-2005, 10:12 AM

I have it, and I remember now that I was -supposto- upload this so... somebody... could host it. I'll try to get it up this weekend.

monkeyfoot

11-25-2005, 02:43 PM

yea thanks for getting back to me on that ^^ :rolleyes:

I have the video, I managed to get a 44k app that loads up a streaming link in realplayer, then I d/led it with a stream d/ler like 'hidownload'.

If someone would like the stream file I will upload it.

Craig

monkeyfoot

11-25-2005, 03:06 PM

heres the stream link

http://www.badongo.com/file.php?file=mantis+stream+kung+fu__2005-11-25_mantis.ram

craig

CHAZ

11-25-2005, 06:17 PM

heres the stream link

http://www.badongo.com/file.php?file=mantis+stream+kung+fu__2005-11-25_mantis.ram

craig

Arrgghhh For the life of me, I just cannot get the thing to download:confused:

JaguarWarrior

11-25-2005, 08:53 PM

Arrgghhh For the life of me, I just cannot get the thing to download:confused:
Yeah me either, and it only makes me want to see it more! :eek:

MantisWarrior

11-25-2005, 09:19 PM

yeah problem here too, the link doesn't even work...:( :confused: *cry* i want to see it!

shirkers1

11-26-2005, 12:25 PM

Hmmm link works for me... if you click on the download link at the top of the page it doesn't work for you guys? I just clicked on that, selected open and it still works...

Ou Ji

11-26-2005, 12:39 PM

Works for me. Make sure you have Realplayer and you're up to date. I'm running version 10.5.

Hua Lin Laoshi

11-26-2005, 01:11 PM

I remember that clip. For the guys that like to see more Wah Lum there you go.

Shaolin 7 Star Praying Mantis founded by Wong Long? Don't think so but overall the clip is nice. The only 7 Star I recognize is Bung Bo. The 2-man drill might be 7 Star.

See, this is why the politics and all that crap bugs me. He's avoiding using the Wah Lum name so he calls it 7 Star, which is misleading to the general public. Not only that but then Wah Lum doesn't get the credit it deserves and loses out.

MantisWarrior

11-26-2005, 02:38 PM

finally watch it!! it's AWSOME!

Shaolin Dude

11-26-2005, 03:09 PM

what's the name of the 2nd hand form and single broadsword he demonstrated?

mantid1

11-26-2005, 03:40 PM

Great WL video. That is what he said it was, right?

I have been told the second hand form may be called 6th exercise.

Hua Lin Laoshi

11-26-2005, 03:49 PM

Technically he doesn't say but he talks about 7 Star and says he practices 7 Star but most of what's shown is Wah Lum. Go figure.

MantisWarrior

11-26-2005, 06:54 PM

yeah i study wah lum and the scene where he does the stance is exactly like the ones we do that order (i have no idea if other style do the same thing....so) and the opening moves are the same too and i've seen some of my sihing did stuff like him (the staff and double dao scene)

btw-for pushing hand, can i just make up a random set of movements involving stances? or is there a proper way to do the push hands? not talking about 2 man set where punches and lbockes are involve. cus like the video said, i want to develop the sensitivity of my forearms...

JaguarWarrior

11-26-2005, 10:38 PM

Yes the link works for me now, I enjoyed the video.

monkeyfoot

11-27-2005, 01:57 PM

glad you could d/l it guys.....its really frustrating to get hold of.

Craig

monkeyfoot

11-27-2005, 02:02 PM

Shaolin 7 Star Praying Mantis founded by Wong Long

So are you saying it wasn't?!?!? :confused:

craig

Ou Ji

11-27-2005, 03:17 PM

Wang Lang did not create 7 Star Praying Mantis. I think it was Li Zhi Zhan that created Qixing Tanglang.

By popular account Wang Lang created Praying Mantis which was later split off into branches such as Qixing.

Funny but all the 7 Star websites I go to make the claim that Wang Lang created 7 Star. Maybe one of the more reputable researchers could comment on this. Kevin? Robert? Bueller?

mantis108

11-27-2005, 04:40 PM

Here's a thread on the Mantis Quarterly forum concerning the names of the various styles and lineages of praying mantis.

http://www.mantisquarterly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=361

Personally, the whole idea that Tanglang came from Shaolin is because of what was written in the introduction of "Shaolin Yibol Zhenchuan" (Shaolin Authentics) by a native of Shandong - Shengxiao Daoren (mid 1700 CE) who said that it's based on Shaolin Monk Fu Ju's work - Luohan Xing Gong Duan Da (Arhat Short Strike). He also said that his student took the original copy from him and he had to rewrite and edit (with addition from him) to make another copy. Scholars in Mainland are inclined to believe that Louhan Xing Gong Duan Da is rather a folk martial arts indigenous to Shandong. Fan Xu Dong apparently gave his disciples copys of Shaolin Yibol Zhenchuan. This is also one of the reasons why some people coined the term "Louhan Tanglang" as an alias of Qixing Tanglang IMHO.

Warm regards

Mantis108

monkeyfoot

11-29-2005, 12:56 PM

http://www.plumpub.com/info/knotebook/boxmantis.htm#seven

craig

MantisWarrior

07-15-2006, 12:27 PM

can someone upload this vid again please really want to see it thnx

HearWa

07-15-2006, 05:22 PM

I now have broadband so it's much easier for me to share the file. I just uploaded it to: http://www.uploading.com/?get=D7ZCI6ZN

MantisWarrior

07-17-2006, 08:01 PM

sweet this is awsome ty

techmantis

08-30-2006, 03:30 PM

A bit easier to find this here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3179638696674864516

Cheers,

TechMantis

Radplaiddude

09-01-2006, 05:35 AM

From what i gather Jefff Hughes studied under R Fogg who was 7 Star. Carl Albright and R Fogg, And Jeff Hughes are all tied into together. Could be wrong.. It would be nice to see more wah lum, everyone acts like it so close guarded. Rad

Yao Sing

09-01-2006, 10:39 AM

Hang tight and I'll put something up. I'm far from the best but at least you can get a glimpse.

BTW, I believe Raymong Fogg was a head instructor in Wah Lum way back before my time.

EDIT: Ok, check the Mantis Videos thread. Sorry I'm not a better performer but I'm in panic mode whenever I perform for a crowd.