Taped myself doing SLT...

[Martial Joe]

Hey guys...
CanadianBadass asked me to tape myself doing the first form...so I did and sent it to him.
It came out to take alot of space.
About 31mb.
I did it really fast(well in my terms anyway)
just to show it to him and keep to size of it down.
If anyone else wants to see it and has a fast internet connection feal free to ask me...

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[Martial Joe]

BTW I may tape Chum Kui tomorow...and make some porn... :D

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[dlew308]

I wanna see the 2 forms, but save the porn for yourself :b

[Watchman]

What software are you using to capture the video? I'm asking because if you have Premiere you can download a plug-in from Adobe's site that will allow you to compress the clip for the internet.

[S.Teebas]

If you can compress that file (alot) i wouldn't mind to see your form.


S.Teebas

[Wei Sui]

Sure, I'd like to take a gander at it! how you going to distribute it?

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Dai yut tow dai :)

[Mokujin]

...for us 56k'ers?

I'd be very interested to see the living legend Martial Joe in action (but please, do keep the porn to yourself! ;) )

Peace!
:D

[Ars vitae]

I second that motion.

[mun hung]

I know the forms.

Can I see the porn? :D

[jameswebsteruk]

Hey joe? How did you compress the file? How long is the clip?

You can use divx compression to get 10 minutes in 30 megs, so if your form is shorter than that ( ;) ), you should make a big space saving

Frank

The chalice from the palace has the pellet with the poison,
The vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true!

[Gazza]

Me too please ;)

Gary.

[Kung Lek]

hey Joe, make it an mpeg.
Go to terran.com, they have a great product called media cleaner pro that lets you convert any avi or mov into an mpeg.

mpeg usually gives you a 10:1 compression ratio.

peace

Kung Lek

Martial Arts Links (http://members.home.net/kunglek)

[Martial Joe]

I realized that the file is way to big...I will start sending them out as soon as I get it compressed.ANd Mr Lo.(marcus) said he would put it on the web for me so everyone can view it...I dont know how long this will take but not long for sure.

Ill keep you guys updated...

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[Shadowboxer]

I edit digital video. If you are using Premiere 6.0, you can use the Cleaner EZ that Kung Lek mentioned. It comes with it in the File>Export the timeline option. Terran.com might have Cleaner 5, the full high end version, available to download- but I doubt it. I had to buy mine. I like .mov quality the best, but .mpg is much better than .avi. Good Luck.

[Martial Joe]

Well it will be an avi and I made it from my webcam...

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[Martial Joe]

I didnt mention this yet,but I normaly do the form really slow...

But I did it fast(as I did mention) so it would save space.

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[Sharky]

email me joe, i'd like to see it. don't email me the video though! I can get it from here, at uni, or i'm getting broadband installed into my room on saturday, so i'll get it then. email with details on how though mate.

cheers

All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.

[Martial Joe]

This just in folks...

I redid SLT and it is now 10 MB.
It has bad lighting but who cares...
I tapes chum kui too...but with a bigger screen so you could actually see.And that unfortunatly took up 24 mb.

Sharky...you got it man...

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[Martial Joe]

I think 3 people have asked me to send it to them through email already.
How can I send it through and email if the attachment will only allow around 1,200kb which is 1.2 mb...

How am I saposed to do this?

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[Sharky]

can't you put it up on an ftp somewhere?

if you're using outlook express you can turn off maximum attachment thingy by going to options or something, i dunno, it's not on this pc

btw, i got windows xp pro at home, it kicks ass, i'm a sucker for that bells n whistles approach

All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.

[Martial Joe]

Might I add...my form isnt that great in my opinion.

And as for my CK I have to cowardinate the 2/3 more and stop sticking my but out in that part in that last section where your legs are totaly together.

Note:I have been in wing chun under a year.
And I stopped training for a long time...
What do you think?

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[Wei Sui]

Could you upload it to a storage site? I dunno what the good storage sights there are these days.

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[Sharky]

must ask, why are you doing chum kiu if you've only been doing wing chun for a year?

actually, i know some teachers teach the forms quickly. just a bit wierd, the teachers i've been to, some don't teach chum kiu an ddon't let you get started on chi sau for ages.

my new school gets students on chi sau from 3-6 months, so yeah, i see the differences.

Who do you train with mate?

All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.

[Martial Joe]

Mei~Mr Lo from this forum is going to put it on a server for me...


Sharky...I learned chum kui at 5 months...
The only other student that has been going longer then me learned it after a year...

I train with my sifu but right now he is in hong kong training at tsui sheung tins place...

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[Martial Joe]

Forgot to add his name...woops...

My sifus name is John Kaufman...

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[Shadowboxer]

What if you started your own website? Couldn't you have it there for people to see? Angelfire offers free web sites with up to 50 MB of space last time I checked.

[Martial Joe]

Shadow...Mr Lo has helped me out...hes a real cool guy.He made a little page for me viewing my forms.

They are not that great because of my lack of experience but I will get better and update them from time to time...

thelink is...
http://64.3.36.92

ENJOY!

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[Martial Joe]

BTW the AVI version is much clearer...if you have time...well...yeah...

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[Martial Joe]

ttt

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[Ozihn]

:( It doesn't work.

[Martial Joe]

It did yesterday...
I have to ask Mr. Lo about it...

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[Martial Joe]

This just in...the server will be on and off till mondey...on monday I will repost the link and everyone can watch me do my forms that I am not good at...

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[jameswebsteruk]

There is large variation in the lengths of time instructors take in teaching WC. Some take literally years before you go to chum kiu, others teach as fast as you can learn the forms.

As long as someone constantly practices what they do, and dont assume that because they have started chum kiu they can forget SLT, there shouldnt be a probably with getting on with learning the forms as soon as they are capable. Worked for WSL, worked for my instructor, and works for me. ;)

Glad to hear you have found a good school. I met Shaun Rawcliffe at the VT Conference a few years ago, he was pleasant. And gave a funny, entertaining demonstration. With slowmotion bits!

Oh, and to make you all jealous, my WC buddies (16 from the UK, and 9 from Stuttgart) are off to Hong Kong in a week, for 10 days of training, eating, drinking, and eyeing up ladies. :)

Woot!

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[kungfu cowboy]

Frank Exchange, what is your signature from? It seems familiar.

[brassmonkey]

Checked out your forms. Doesn't look like alot of footwork in those forms, what about in the system other then those 2 forms? Your right your doing Tai Chi Chuan except with smaller circles....buuahahahahahaha

[Nichiren]

Nice work Joe... I noticed that William Cheung WC(TWC) SLT and CK looks different (http://www.wingchunkwoon.com)? The versions Joe does seems to be done by many WT/VT/WC lineages with small variations? Are there any other lineages that differs much concerning forms?

BTW, nice MPEGs and pictures on the site wingchunkwoon. Mr. Cheung looked real fit in the pictures from the early 80s. I can imagine him being king of the hill in Hong Kong.

[txwingchun]

If I remember correctly the quote is from an old danny kaye movie the court jester

[kungfu cowboy]

Thanks, txwingchun!

[Mokujin]

I finally got the **** thing downloaded with my 56k connection. Awesome stuff! I do my Sil Lim Tao different and I can't wait to learn other styles.

My SLT looks more like this clip:

William Cheung Style, I guess... (http://www.wingchun.com/WilliamCheungmain.htm)

-except not as exaggerated.

My opening sequence is the same as the clip above, my legs kick out into the pigeon-toed stance (unlike where you sink into the stance). Does anyone know where the variations come from?

I just started learning Chum Ki. If anyone could give me advice on coordination- I'd appreciate it. I must have 3 left feet!

Peace!
:D

[Martial Joe]

I am viewing these mpegs right now...
Ill input in a minut.

As for Chum Kui.

Just keep working on it and try and keep your lower and upper body together and your power will keep increasing...

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[Martial Joe]

That has got to be the wierdest wing chun sh!t I have ever seen...
Well now...that was different...
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[Mokujin]

Glad you approve! ;)

My instructor has a ton of patience, but my coordination pretty much taps him out. I lean forward too much and I'm used to the Kenpo footwork.

Oh well, try, try again.

Peace
:D

[Martial Joe]

I lean seldomly in chi sau and my sifu lets me go and I fall...

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[S.Teebas]

Hi Martial Joe,

I had a Look at your forms, your SNT seems to be coming along. With CK, remember that you are still doing your SNT, just in motion....same relaxed state. I think the key to realise your simply moving, not Pushing anthing!


S.Teebas

[Martial Joe]

was I pushing anything?

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[tnwingtsun]

What kind of water heater is that?? :confused:

[Martial Joe]

hydrojet water heater...

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[S.Teebas]

When you are pivoting.

Know where you want to go before you get there.


S.Teebas

[Martial Joe]

I am lost.What section of the form?

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[Sharky]

hi, finally got cable, so yeah.

you do you're 2nd and 3rd parts of slt very softly, just like the first part, whereas i do them with a snap at the end.

All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.

[Martial Joe]

I usually do it alot!!!! slower.
I was just trying to make the avi not take so much space.


Is your form tence or relaxed.

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[Sharky]

1st part totally relaxed, jus tlike yours, second n theird parts relaxed yet focused at the end, aren't the 2nd and 3rd parts supposed to train the short range energy/fa jing/whatever you like to call it? I train it all relaxed but focused at the end mate

All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.

[sunkuen]

"Is your form tence or relaxed."
You mispelled "tence",it should be "tents"!!! :rolleyes: lol

[Watchman]

You can practice SLT with different intents in mind: completely relaxed as a hei gung exercise, or as a power exercise to develop cheung kau fak lak (long bridge force, or "fa jing"), etc.

Unless I'm specifically practicing hei gung, I always practice my SLT "sharply" with long bridge force in mind.

[yenhoi]

Are you doing very subtle lap saus (like Cheug TWC)or are you doing huen saus?

Either way it seems very different in appearance to the movements I perform then... (like between fook sau and jut sau).

strike!

[davy]

In slt, why do you perform Gum Sao this way? May I have an explanation of the technique...

[Martial Joe]

It is most direct...and powerful.

Moving the whole arm as one unit will be stronger and quicker then if you were hinging...

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[davy]

I didn't meant that Joe... But why performing it almost in front of the body, and not another way...?

[Martial Joe]

Why infront of the body you say???

Well I would like to deflect shots going at my body not next to me...

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[davy]

On the video, one can see he's performing the gum sao in front of his body... I just wonder why? (in fact, in another video where a William Cheung student perform Sil Lim Tao, you can see that the gum sao is perform at the side and in front of the body............. perplex.......... still perplex.....)

[davy]

Sorry for the "he's performing" thing....
Wel replace it by "you're" :D

[Shadowboxer]

MJ, I can't open the page for the 2nd time.