Mouth Punch-Mouth Sore

[K.Brazier]

After I get punched in the mouth I usually have to spend a few days with a festering wound on my inner lower lip.
It takes the joy out of eating and talking 'cuz it hurts, worse than the punch actually.

Anybody know what I can do to help?
I am in Taiwan so I don't have access to fancy medicines. Is there an old boxer remedy?
You'd think there was an old CMA remedy, but I have never heard of it.

[stimulant]

You'd think there was an old CMA remedy, but I have never heard of it.

I belive its called blocking

[Oso]

Kevin, I've always just used salt.

I was sparring this JKD dude and he was just nailing me with these ridge hands. I had a full set of cuts on the inside of both lips all the way around into my cheeks. I washed my mouth out w/ salt water 3/day and they were healed up in just a few days.

[Toby]

I developed a small lump after a cut didn't heal one time. It kept swelling up like a blister and I'd have to burst it with a needle. Eventually I went to a dentist, then a specialist oral surgeon and turned out the cut I'd got had been across a mucous duct and where the scar tissue healed had sealed the duct. Mucous is continually produced and it couldn't go anywhere so that's why it kept swelling. Treatment was to cut a hole in the mouth and pull out several mucous ducts. 2 weeks before surgery it finally started to subside by itself, so I cancelled the surgery and it got better pretty quickly. It took about 4 months all up and only visibly improved in a few weeks. It was pretty static for the whole time up until the last little while. It sucked.

[MasterKiller]

Don't you guys use a mouthpiece? I never get cuts when I wear one, only when I don't.

[Oso]

Not then (about 12 years ago) my old teacher never promoted the use of them.
And I evidently wasn't smart enough to figure it out then.
I lost a tooth that got chipped in sparring around that time as well.

I know...stupid.




but, I have gotten cut lips from the mouthguard. the mouth guard helps save the teeth, not the lips.

[Toby]

I have gotten cut lips from the mouthguard. the mouth guard helps save the teeth, not the lips.
What Oso said. Mine that time was as a result of an accident pretty much. Sparring I wear a mouthguard, but not just for regular training. IIRC the shot that cut my lip that time was totally out of context for what we were training at the time - it just slipped through and I missed it. (i.e. we were probably just doing training drills or something)

[mickey]

Greetings,

I have used warm water with salt or baking soda (dissolves better) several times a day.

The mouthpieces the football players use have a covering that covers the lips. All you would need to do is cut the strap that attaches to the helmet. Now there is a problem and that is the part that protects the teeth is not very sophisticated; it is more like a horse bit for human beings.

mickey

[IronFist]

^ Got a link?

I've gotten some nasty looking cuts before on my lip and inner lip from my mouthpiece.

[gfx]

I used to get these all the time in Judo, my solution? get a quality mouth-guard.

There are various canker-sore medicine in drug stores, also use mouth-wash.

[mickey]

Hi IronFist,

Check the Pro Lip and Mouth Guard. I am surprised MAs And MMAs are not using them.

http://www.footballamerica.com/default.asp?file=shopdisplayproducts&fext=asp&id=23&subcat=133


As you can see, the part for the teeth not too sophisticated.

mickey

[Oso]

i think you also need to consider that we are probably using mouthguards designed as secondary protection as primary protection.

Football players have a helmet w/ faceguard on. So,no direct contact with the teeth.

Boxers have a thick glove that also helps protect the teeth. (NOT saying anything about power delivery via gloved or ungloved hands, that's beendone to death) THe target of a punch to the head is the brain.

A barehanded punch to the teeth, even with a mouth guard, is going to pop some teeth loose if not out. And it will sure as hell bust the lip.

Cheap mouthguards basically are protection against chipping your teeth during light to moderate contact.

The better mouthguards offer resistance to concussion.

[mickey]

Greetings,

Oso, I agree with all that you say. IronFist was asking about lip protection.

There is one industry that can be of help to us and that is the dental industry. I understand that the mouthguards they make are much better than that you can but in stores (never tried them though). They may be able to come up with a darn good mouthguard that offers lip protection. They will bust their last nut to come up with one if they see there is money to be made.

Just tell them what you need.

mickey

[Becca]

... I lost a tooth that got chipped in sparring around that time as well.

I know...stupid...
Ditio. But mine was one of the back teeth, so I don't think the mouth guard would have helped much. The tooth just sort of crumbled into 5 or 6 pieces. :(

But I would also recomend salt water, preferably sea salt. I'm not sure why, but sea salt seems to heal wounds quiker. Every type of wound responds to this from mouth injury to new piercings. But table salt seems to work, too.

[Shaolinlueb]

i got kicked in the face, my cheek swelled up a bit thats its.

[Becca]

I got swept and landed on my face. :eek: I also had a lovely rug burn along my chin and jaw, as my partner and I were working in my old family room which had burber.

[K.Brazier]

Thanks folks for the good ideas.
I liked the one tidbit of information advising me to start blocking and defending.
Little do you know that I block with my lips.

I have tried hot pepper bits,
baking soda, heard it works on jelly fish stings along with vinegar.
And also salt.

And after all this painstaking research I determine that baking soda works best with a close second by salt.
I just mix them in water.
Too strong a mixture cause intense burning pain, but without an increased ability to stop the pain.
I tried placing hot pepper bits between cheek and gum, just like chewin' teebacky.
Made me feel like a macho cowboy, until the sensation of capsicum entered my nerve pathways.
Vinegar just hurts, maybe I'll mix it with water next time.

Well this research has been exciting. Look forward to more mouth punches to try new pain mixtures.

Mouth gaurd sounds best. I'll research that when I move to the states.

[Ray Pina]

Keep your mouth closed (gently clench your teath) and keep your tongue on the roof of your mouth ..... that will help a lot.


Also, buy a mouth piece. They're not expensive and second only to a cup in importance.

Lastly, keep your door closed. Shots to the top and side of the head suck but aren't that bad. If the guys hitting your mouth it could be your jaw or neck just as easily. Reinforce the important areas.

[K.Brazier]

Wolfen,
Sounds like a lot of work.

Baking soda and salt are simple enuf.

Ray,
I was just doing an expalnation when I accidentally got hit, it wasn't sparring or drills, just dumb luck.

Taiwan doesn't have mouth piece requiring sports so they are not easy to find.
I will get another next state trip.
Kevin

[Ray Pina]

If you're not bugged out about it, PM me your adress and I'll mail you one. I'm a poor guy but I can afford to buy a martial brother essential gear .... and mail it through work ;)

[BAI HE]

You should get a mouth gard man.
Like my Dad used to say " Teeth don't grow back."