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kung fu fighter
06-20-2005, 02:20 PM
Hi,
what's the oldest style of southern white crane boxing?

Can someone discribe what the 8 directional stepping variations are in white crane kung fu as well as the stances involved and how is kicking executed from these steps.

How do you locate the 8 angles for the upper body, and how they are trained in regards to defensive and offensive applications.

Here in a website that I found with some info on a style called Fu Hok Yao Gong Fut Pai (Tiger Crane Soft Hard Buddhist) Which was supposedly created by combining Ng Mui's white crane boxing with Chi Sim's tiger boxing.

www.fuhok.org/fuhok/page5.html

Any additional insights into the white crane bagua concepts would be great.

Shaolin Master
06-21-2005, 03:26 AM
Yongchun baihequan is the inherent oldest. (~1642-1660AD)

the five elements are in your hands and the bagua are on your opponent. Or maybe they just are.

"cun jing jie li"

kung fu fighter
07-13-2005, 10:10 AM
Hi,
Can you give me more details about this.

For example how does the 5 elements relates to the hands? Does the 5 element also relate to your footwork and if so how?

How does the bagua relate to the opponent, as well as your footwork understanding. any additional info on this would be great.

Thanks
kung fu fighter

Shaolin Master
07-14-2005, 05:29 AM
Hands wuxingshou is directional in terms of the effect on incoming force. This would apply to footwork in an extension of the principles not direct impetus.

Find the bagua via the changes of wuxing and the goal is achieved.

That is all.

kung fu fighter
08-03-2005, 10:58 AM
Hi Shaolin Master,

Can you give me a more detailed explanation of this and how it works. How the theory of the 8 trigram and 5 elements are used in combat?

What do you mean by the five elements are in your hands and the bagua are on your opponent.

Hands wuxingshou is directional in terms of the effect on incoming force. This would apply to footwork in an extension of the principles not direct impetus.

Thanks
kung fu fighter

Mulong
08-18-2005, 03:21 PM
Eight Trigram

Kan: North
Li: South
Zhen: East
Dui: West
Qian: Northwest
Kun: Northwest
Gen: Northeast
Sun: Southeast

Five Shape

Water: Forward
Fire: Retreat
Earth: Central
Left: Metal
Right: Wood

kung fu fighter
08-18-2005, 05:38 PM
but, how are they applied in white crane kung fu. What's the strategies involved?

Mulong
08-19-2005, 02:26 PM
They are simply stander Chinese cosmology for footwork patterns/theories. Hence, straight to the point...

Lama Pai Sifu
08-19-2005, 03:35 PM
Actually, White Crane (The tibetan version) roots date back to at least 1426. It was introducted into China 1865 by the Monk Sing Lung. It was not originally called White Crane, but started out as Si Jih Hou (Lion's Roar) and was renamed Lama Pai Gung Fu by the Chinese. After a few generations of the style being taught in China, part of the style was renamed Bok Hok Pai, or White Crane Kung-Fu.

Don't confuse Tibetan White Kung-Fu with Fukienese White Crane Kung-Fu (Like what Dr. Yang-Jwing Ming does). They are completely different.

I hope this info is helpful.

kung fu fighter
08-20-2005, 03:00 PM
What's the theory of fighting by tangents involved in this footwork?