Shaolin - Where's It Going?

[firepalm]

Just curious to hear the opinions of others. I have been observing all the different aspects of Shaolin in its' present state unfolding. It seems to me that while many of the private schools & the Temple itself still keep traditional forms & training as part of it's foundation, the whole Shaolin martial arts (the Temple & the private schools) seem to encompass a whole lot more then just the traditional forms training & skills. Modern Wushu and Sport San Shou have become a big part of the equation. It also seems that the newer training in Shaolin also includes a lot more acrobatic & tumbling training then one might typically find in Modern Wushu. Tae Kwon Do has also found it's way into many of the private Shaolin schools. A friend of mine recently returned from one of the private Shaolin schools and said that they had him and others doing a lot of actual wrestling (Greco & Chinese). Then a lot of these Shaolin martial artists are doing a lot of shows and tours. I saw a CCTV broadcast during Chinese New Years and several Shaolin martial arts performers included some Capoeira movements in their performance.

Long story short it seems to me that the whole Shaolin thing is becoming quite broad and encompassing. Personally I think its great but I sometimes wonder where is it all headed? What do others out there predict is the future for Shaolin martial arts and culture?

Curious to hear other thoughts and observations?

[Brad]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[xiao]

I saw the show to on CCTV during New year. My master told me that it was Tagou school (at least that's how they were announced on TV). They payed big $$$$ to CCTV to perform and almost all of the performers weren't even from Tagou.. Like the small boy who did the headflips backwards :eek:

It's all about the $$$$$$ :rolleyes:

[David Jamieson]

pittsburgh

[GeneChing]

I've been watching Shaolin closely for 10 years now. If you want my guess as to the next turn of the wheel, I'm keeping my eye on Yujian Shaolin (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37030), at least for now... ;)

[David Jamieson]

ask yourself this guys.

What part in this world would a righteous order of paladin like buddhist monks play?

How soon would it be before they were destroyed again for attempting to right the wrongs of the world through the use of Kungfu?

How many people would give an order like that buy in and dedicate their lives to the service of such a thing?

lol.

To sustain such an order would require secrecy and an incredible amount of human intelligence to seek out those who are unethical and immoral in order to help them correct their Karma.

ergo, we rot and when we have fallen, then the place for such an order will exist. Hopefully, it will not be forgotten how to go about setting it up again. :p

[shaolinboxer]

I often wonder what to think about the whole thing. I recall being told that as a dedicated practitioner, I was considered a 35th generation disciple. But when my study with the monks ended, did that mean I no longer qualify?

My perception of the spirit of shaolin was that it embraced all "Styles" at the time I was practicing, and since then I have continued my persuit of the martial arts beyond the current wave of shaolin monks.

I don't blame the "shaolin order" for wanting to cash in on their hard work. But not all schools should have to choose this path. There are other martial arts that have established themselves as tax exempt cultural institutions, so I know that the martial arts and it's teachers can survive in other ways than total commercialism. But nobody is getting rich.

What I hope will happen is that chinese martial arts will successfully divide into commercial and non-commercial schools, as indicated by the structure of the school and it's tax status. There's room for both and what is needed is a clear choice. I like spiritual and rigorous martial arts, and I like ridiculous photo books of guys in booty socks acting like ducks.

[r.(shaolin)]

I often wonder what to think about the whole thing. I recall being told that as a dedicated practitioner, I was considered a 35th generation disciple. But when my study with the monks ended, did that mean I no longer qualify?

From what I can see the current lingeage at Shaolin is a Dharma-transmission. This is to say it is a monastic Chan lineage. This would mean that if you are not an ordained monk you do not belong and can not belong to this lineage.

Abbot Fu Yu's 70 character poem is used for the generational names of Chan Shaolin monks.

Shaolin martial arts lineages are different and are passed on mainly through ordained clergy, ordained lay-Buddhist and laity their lay followers. This is to say that most if not all Shaolin martial lineages include ordained monastic practicioners, ordained lay-Buddhist and laity and would not be using Fu Yu's poem.

It does seem to me that things are a bit screwed up there and from talking to some Buddhist scholars it would seem that this in fact is the case.

[firepalm]

I guess what I was wondering is more where the 'Shaolin' martial arts are going, be they those as practiced at the temple or the private schools in Deng Feng. The whole monk thing is quite another story.

As to the money thing, that is a big factor in my view as it motivates what direction a school (private ones) might take as they need to make money to sustain themselves, thus the reason for TKD.

Myself I am curious I guess as to how the Shaolin martial arts will look in years to come and what it will encompass. Modern Wushu is very government controlled, any innovations are usually the results of Committees saying 'Okay now everyone has to do these movements or routines'. Shaolin on the other hand doesn't have these sorts of guidelines or parameters. But I do believe that Shaolin will become more divided between San Shou (sport kickboxing), Taolu forms (in particular performing ones) and then of course the Traditional Shaolin.

It seems to me that the Shaolin performing stuff is becoming even more acrobatic and showy in some cases then it's Modern Wushu counterpart. As mentioned in my first post the CCTV broadcast included a few Capoeira moves. As mentioned by Xiao one boy did backwards headflips, looking like a very extreme movement. Personally I think you are going to see a lot more innovative flippity movements (not necessarily applicable or practical) in Shaolin not unlike what one can see in NASKA with the Freestyle kids. Is this good bad? Who's to say? Downside I could see this becoming an overriding emphasis in Shaolin and some of what I have seen out of the Shaolin is just whack. Just a precidition. :eek:

[PangQuan]

hmm, strange, i had a rather lengthy post on here several days ago and now its gone...

[GeneChing]

...we went offline last weekend (6/25-26) to do an emergency repair on the forum. In the process, we lost all the posts from 6/23-24. At least we didn't lose the forum :eek:

As the Buddhists say 'all things are impermanent.'

[SimonM]

I'm probably going to head down to Shaolin during the winter holliday this December. If anyone else is going to be out that way give me a shout.

[GeneChing]

December? brrrr. Prepare to freeze your arse. Remember xiao's pics from last winter (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36026)

[SimonM]

Hey, Shaolin is SOUTH of here. And where I am is SOUTH of all of Canada. And I brought my heavy London Fog winter jacket and my Manchester United Sweater. Canadians know how to bundle up!

[Vasquez]

Just curious to hear the opinions of others. I have been observing all the different aspects of Shaolin in its' present state unfolding. It seems to me that while many of the private schools & the Temple itself still keep traditional forms & training as part of it's foundation, the whole Shaolin martial arts (the Temple & the private schools) seem to encompass a whole lot more then just the traditional forms training & skills. Modern Wushu and Sport San Shou have become a big part of the equation. It also seems that the newer training in Shaolin also includes a lot more acrobatic & tumbling training then one might typically find in Modern Wushu. Tae Kwon Do has also found it's way into many of the private Shaolin schools. A friend of mine recently returned from one of the private Shaolin schools and said that they had him and others doing a lot of actual wrestling (Greco & Chinese). Then a lot of these Shaolin martial artists are doing a lot of shows and tours. I saw a CCTV broadcast during Chinese New Years and several Shaolin martial arts performers included some Capoeira movements in their performance.

Long story short it seems to me that the whole Shaolin thing is becoming quite broad and encompassing. Personally I think its great but I sometimes wonder where is it all headed? What do others out there predict is the future for Shaolin martial arts and culture?

Curious to hear other thoughts and observations?

Shaolin martial arts is all encompassing. There was a time when one shaolin monk equaled 10,000 soldiers.

[YuanZhideDiZhen]

I guess what I was wondering is more where the 'Shaolin' martial arts are going, be they those as practiced at the temple or the private schools in Deng Feng.

Myself I am curious I guess as to how the Shaolin martial arts will look in years to come and what it will encompass.
:

Well try looking at what it was in the recent past: the four families of shaolin were at quite a peak before the CR and fortunately some examples of this level of skill exist on video.

the Hong family style is one of the most technically advanced. it is superceded only by Abbot Gao's Xing Gong. in many respects they are similar for thier length of forms and relative degree of difficulty. Hong has more kicks but the Gao Xing Gong kicks are more difficult, but there are fewer of them. I am quite convinced that the longest shaolin form exists as the 13claw single route/narrow path. it is as long as the hong big red plus the hong big cannon plus the hong hawk step plus the hong 10 sylabel mahayana.

Gao Jun died in 2003. he had seven students that i know about.

[shaoshishan]

As a Chinese from the Shaolin area, I believe that I know much more about Shaolin than many people.

Fortunately, you finally realize something and start to think about it, SHAOLIN- where's it going?
For the so called wushu that you see today at Shaolin Temple and the Wushu schools, students performing head flips and many other fancy looking movements, don’t you think the the normal gymnastics athletes can do it better than these Wushu students. When I see those modern “shaolin master” perform traditional shaolin forms in a modern wushu way, making all sorts of fancy movements and they get judged on their angles of the moves and the heights they get to. And the government plays a major role in these competitions.

I cant feel but sorry for these students in these wushu school some as young as 5. They train for many hours a day and I think the training will not help them in later life. As wushu is just a sport along with so called san da, Also the latest news going around dengfeng and shaolin temple is that two young wuhsu students died at TaGou the largest school in dengfeng.

I also feel sorry for those foreign gongfu enthusiast who coming to shaolin, they come with a great curiousity and respect, but most of them leave with disappointment after they get shocked, and confuse, and get hurted and etc. In the end they left with their passion as well.

You must be very disappointed with shaolin after reading my information. Also many people say that there is nothing exist in shaolin nowadays, shaolin already lost its essence. But I must say, shaolin is still there, you will see it when the heavy fog is dispersed. Dear friends, don’t give up! You can still find out the essence of shaolin if you make a careful investigation.

I personally predict, there will be big culture revolution in shaolin in the near future. Shaolin gongfu will be thoroughly overhauled and radically reformed to its original nature.

[YuanZhideDiZhen]

You must be very disappointed with shaolin after reading my information. Also many people say that there is nothing exist in shaolin nowadays, shaolin already lost its essence. But I must say, shaolin is still there, you will see it when the heavy fog is dispersed. Dear friends, don’t give up! You can still find out the essence of shaolin if you make a careful investigation.

I personally predict, there will be big culture revolution in shaolin in the near future. Shaolin gongfu will be thoroughly overhauled and radically reformed to its original nature.

well, are you saying that they are going to move backwards towards tai tzu from Great Spirit or are you saying that they are going to become the living encyclopedia of all martial arts and then ****genize it? or rather, modernize it for all people? sounds like that cult we were talking about back in april.

[shaoshishan]

well, are you saying that they are going to move backwards towards tai tzu from Great Spirit or are you saying that they are going to become the living encyclopedia of all martial arts and then ****genize it? or rather, modernize it for all people? sounds like that cult we were talking about back in april.


as i know there is one master Shi Dejian 4th generation inheritor of shaolin Wu Gulun gongfu, he will establish an assoication called Ch'an Wu Yi with the support of the government. so i think soon shaolin will change in time and people will learn authentic shaolin culture.

i think people will change their concept about shaolin by then. i think people are lost due to the fact that wushu as taken a great infulance to people, and the true teaching of shaolin are over looked. also at present their are very few people who really know about traditional shaolin gongfu.

[YuanZhideDiZhen]

Hmmmm...

Shaolin Culture. Now there's a new tack! "Bhuddism and ritual in everyday life and how it applies to martial study". -?-

[shaoshishan]

Chan Wu Yi are the main subject at shaolin temple, but now few people practice these or just only focus on one of these topics. The three threaures of shaolin are one and should not be separted, as they supliment each other.

With my limited knowledge, i can explain a little about the relationship between Shaolin Chan Wu Yi. The practice of Chan Buddhism can eliminate anger coused by gongfu training and fighting; practicing meditation can help you control and focus your mind, which is the most important aspect of internal gongfu training; through training gongfu your mind will become more aware of the body and give you a deeper understanding of the relationship between the internal organs, and these are very important for studying medicine.

[YuanZhideDiZhen]

interesting. kinda like bhuddist pre-med. well that certainly reduces my preconcieved notion of what the temple was all about: i thought it was like a western monastery where monks copy documents and try to relate their religion to modern problems to provide answers to lay people. and if they don't understand it verbally, to beat it into them (only joking) with the chan sudden enlightenment method. :D

i'll just stick to Gao's Hinayana and Hong's secret word.

[shaoshishan]

Shaolin Xinyiba


Xin yi ba is highest level of secret skill of shaolin traditional gongfu. Many people might be curious about shaolin Xin Yi Ba, here we will try to provide as much accurate information as possible. The information written bellow has been translated from the copy of the original manual, and some are from Shi Xingxiao’s own training experience at shaolin temple. Althrough the theory of Xin Yi Ba is very difficult to translate, we have provided a brief outline on the theory of Xin Yi Ba.

Xin Yi Ba is also known as Chu Jue Tou(锄镢头). It was developed by Shaolin monks through using Gongfu movements while farming. The exact time of the founding of Xin Yi Ba can not be traced due to the several disasters in the history of shaolin temple, and many manuscripts were lost. However, Xin Yi Ba already became very famous during the Song Dynasty.

At present some Wushu practitioners in Dengfeng claim that they know Shaolin Xin Yi Ba. They may have been taught a few movements when master Wu sanlin was invited back to shaolin temple to teach for three years. Acctually the “Xin Yi ba” they claim to know can’t be called Xin Yi Ba gongfu.

Xin Yi Ba consists only of a few main series of movements and some branch movements. When one can become proficient in mastering those movements, he can create infinite postures of their own. In fact, the study of Xin Yi Ba is to practice and fortify your Qi and your outer strength, the purpose is to manipulate your Qi to nourish your internal organs and enrich the muscles of the body. Then one can move the Qi out of the body as well, and the Qi can help your body avoid being injured in some situations. And helps Clam your mind, and prevent illness, make your body strong. The study of Xin Yi Ba consists of many aspects of different theories and practical training, such as: Understanding of the three sections (Ming San Jie)/the four sensations (Qi Si Shao)/guard the five elements (Bi Wu Xing)/Liu He and Three voids and so on.

Six combinations (Liu He 六合)

Most people distinguish between external and internal martial arts and think that they are separate. But in truth, to train only internal or external are too unilateral of Gong-fu practicing. The hardest combination to train is the combination of “Xin” and “yi”. “Xin” is known as the heart, “Yi” is known as intent/mind, Liu He means the combination of six sections of the body, of which 3 are external and 3 are internal. When the six sections of the body are combined including the (Xin Yi), one can develop limitless power from their body.

From the training of shaolin traditional movements, one would have learnt how to incorporate the three sectons of the body, which is the three external combinations. Through constant practice, and learn how to set them into motion as a seamless whole. Then, it would be difficult for your opponent to win from the practical aspects. Through practising the physical aspects of training and maintaining a vegetarian diet, one will build and store more and more Qi within the body, and thus will be ready for inrernal training.

The most important aspect of internal training is one's mind and intention. In other words, one's intention must be combined with the Qi and focused on each movement. As many people know that Qi-gong is the art of breathing, the majority of people who have read about Qi-gong will know that many theories are similar. However, the methods of practice may vary. Normally people's breathing is not fully completed, so the practice of deep breathing through the Dantian which is your lower abdomen can complete you breathing. In this way, your breathing can guide more oxygen to every organ and nerves, and activates the nerves to be more sensitive, which makes the immune system stronger and more resistant to viruses and illness. So the body can generate more potential energy. That's how some people who practice Qi-gong are able to be cured their own illness that conventional medicine cannot cure. In traditional Shaolin training, there are some advanced methods and forms for internal training such as Yi Jin Jing and Shi Sui Jing, these forms enable you to manipulate the Qi and produce more physical power in fighting movements. The movements are led by one's mind, only when you can purify your mind, combined with your intent, and your mind can control the Qi to flow through all the nerves smoothly, then you can bring out the power generated through Qi in your movements. To follow the theory we explained above, your Mind, Intention, Qi and Power must be well combined, which are three internal combinations of Liu He.

Understanding of the three sections (Ming San Jie明三节)

The body has three main sections of which the hands to shoulders (upper section) chest to waste (middle section) hips to feet (root section).

Then we analyze the three major sections there are another three sections to each one of the main sections.

Upper section: hands(Upper), elbows(middle) and shoulders(root).
Middle section: chest(upper) heart(middle) and lower abdomen(root).
Root section: feet(upper) knees(middle) and hips(root).

The relationship between the three sections has its own unique functions. For instance when a movement is performed from one of the three sections，the other two sections must be in harmony to generate the power from the movement done, which means any movements must be supported by the power generated from the whole body. That’s how important it is for practitioners to understand the San Jie.

Four internal sensations(Qi si shao-齐四稍)

For the original gongfu theory, all parts of the body are connected to the central nerve system for instance, the hair is assumed as being the ending of the blood, the nails is the ending of the ligament, teeth is the ending of your bones and tongue is the ending of your muscles.

When you are practicing, you should get the sensations like your hair is lifting your scalp; and your nails are like trying to penetrate the bones; and teeth are like biting through steel and your tongue is like trying to push your teeth out of place. Then the internal power can be most generated. When the Qi raises from the Dantian, the Qi produces a sound with each movement, the sound follows the movements and work together as a whole. Then all the parts of the body are set into motion, and the internal energy can be generated completely.

So when you practice gong-fu, first you must understand the theory behind the method. Also you have to understand every part of your body within the movements and what it is used for. Only when you understand these, your practice will be effective and efficient. The theories we have explained above are only a part of the requirements of the practice of Xin Yi Ba. There are much more theories and practical application of Xin Yi Ba which can’t be put into words, but the practitioner must experience personally through training with the old training methods.
For Xin yi ba practice, there are some certain postures and movements to practice with the requirements, through practice you can become more proficient in the fighting strategy. And the practice can improve your gong-fu to the unlimited state. If one can reach the peak of the practice of Xin Yi Ba, then any movements performed can be called Xin Yi Ba.


information provide by wugulun gongfu association
Contact details wugulun@hotmail.com and sldj@shaolindj.com
www.shaolindj.com

[YuanZhideDiZhen]

i apologise for upsetting you... :)

[YuanZhideDiZhen]

Shaolin Xinyiba


When you are practicing, you should get the sensations like your hair is lifting your scalp; and your nails are like trying to penetrate the bones; and teeth are like biting through steel and your tongue is like trying to push your teeth out of place. Then the internal power can be most generated. When the Qi raises from the Dantian, the Qi produces a sound with each movement, the sound follows the movements and work together as a whole. Then all the parts of the body are set into motion, and the internal energy can be generated completely.

So when you practice gong-fu, first you must understand the theory behind the method. Also you have to understand every part of your body within the movements and what it is used for. Only when you understand these, your practice will be effective and efficient.

...And the practice can improve your gong-fu to the unlimited state.



from my experience this is the physical affect of advanced qi control combined with induced qi flow and directed forms practice. it often occurs before the 'Li-gong sudden enlightenment' but it is not the same as sitori: which is related but still different, and even more advanced with regaurds to the second statement of the second paragraph above.

[Songshan]

Interesting question in deed. I can only speak about Shaolin here in the US where I have my experiences in. I can't really talk about Shaolin in China because I have not been there. I think I see Shaolin growing here in the USA but leveling off real soon. For the most part only New York, Texas, Nevada, Alabama and California are the only 5 out of 50 states in the US that have a actual warrior monk/disciple running a school. New York and Texas being the most saturated areas of the Shaolin schools. It is a good thing that we have these schools because every monk has something to offer. It's a bad thing because too much of it can leave everyone tired of it. It's bad enough we read all the time about whats real/fake the wushu debate and the rest of the negative publicity shaolin gets at times. I believe there are some frauds out there but not all of it is fake.

I never really thought about another "cultural revolution" happening in Shaolin but it is a possiblity looking at the history of shaolin. One can only hope that somewhere and somehow there is some kind of standardization to preserve a very serious and imoprtant part of Chinese culture.

[Vasquez]

Shaolin Xinyiba


Xin yi ba is highest level of secret skill of shaolin traditional gongfu. Many people might be curious about shaolin Xin Yi Ba, here we will try to provide as much accurate information as possible. The information written bellow has been translated from the copy of the original manual, and some are from Shi Xingxiao’s own training experience at shaolin temple. Althrough the theory of Xin Yi Ba is very difficult to translate, we have provided a brief outline on the theory of Xin Yi Ba.

Xin Yi Ba is also known as Chu Jue Tou(锄镢头). It was developed by Shaolin monks through using Gongfu movements while farming. The exact time of the founding of Xin Yi Ba can not be traced due to the several disasters in the history of shaolin temple, and many manuscripts were lost. However, Xin Yi Ba already became very famous during the Song Dynasty.

At present some Wushu practitioners in Dengfeng claim that they know Shaolin Xin Yi Ba. They may have been taught a few movements when master Wu sanlin was invited back to shaolin temple to teach for three years. Acctually the “Xin Yi ba” they claim to know can’t be called Xin Yi Ba gongfu.

Xin Yi Ba consists only of a few main series of movements and some branch movements. When one can become proficient in mastering those movements, he can create infinite postures of their own. In fact, the study of Xin Yi Ba is to practice and fortify your Qi and your outer strength, the purpose is to manipulate your Qi to nourish your internal organs and enrich the muscles of the body. Then one can move the Qi out of the body as well, and the Qi can help your body avoid being injured in some situations. And helps Clam your mind, and prevent illness, make your body strong. The study of Xin Yi Ba consists of many aspects of different theories and practical training, such as: Understanding of the three sections (Ming San Jie)/the four sensations (Qi Si Shao)/guard the five elements (Bi Wu Xing)/Liu He and Three voids and so on.

Six combinations (Liu He 六合)

Most people distinguish between external and internal martial arts and think that they are separate. But in truth, to train only internal or external are too unilateral of Gong-fu practicing. The hardest combination to train is the combination of “Xin” and “yi”. “Xin” is known as the heart, “Yi” is known as intent/mind, Liu He means the combination of six sections of the body, of which 3 are external and 3 are internal. When the six sections of the body are combined including the (Xin Yi), one can develop limitless power from their body.

From the training of shaolin traditional movements, one would have learnt how to incorporate the three sectons of the body, which is the three external combinations. Through constant practice, and learn how to set them into motion as a seamless whole. Then, it would be difficult for your opponent to win from the practical aspects. Through practising the physical aspects of training and maintaining a vegetarian diet, one will build and store more and more Qi within the body, and thus will be ready for inrernal training.

The most important aspect of internal training is one's mind and intention. In other words, one's intention must be combined with the Qi and focused on each movement. As many people know that Qi-gong is the art of breathing, the majority of people who have read about Qi-gong will know that many theories are similar. However, the methods of practice may vary. Normally people's breathing is not fully completed, so the practice of deep breathing through the Dantian which is your lower abdomen can complete you breathing. In this way, your breathing can guide more oxygen to every organ and nerves, and activates the nerves to be more sensitive, which makes the immune system stronger and more resistant to viruses and illness. So the body can generate more potential energy. That's how some people who practice Qi-gong are able to be cured their own illness that conventional medicine cannot cure. In traditional Shaolin training, there are some advanced methods and forms for internal training such as Yi Jin Jing and Shi Sui Jing, these forms enable you to manipulate the Qi and produce more physical power in fighting movements. The movements are led by one's mind, only when you can purify your mind, combined with your intent, and your mind can control the Qi to flow through all the nerves smoothly, then you can bring out the power generated through Qi in your movements. To follow the theory we explained above, your Mind, Intention, Qi and Power must be well combined, which are three internal combinations of Liu He.

Understanding of the three sections (Ming San Jie明三节)

The body has three main sections of which the hands to shoulders (upper section) chest to waste (middle section) hips to feet (root section).

Then we analyze the three major sections there are another three sections to each one of the main sections.

Upper section: hands(Upper), elbows(middle) and shoulders(root).
Middle section: chest(upper) heart(middle) and lower abdomen(root).
Root section: feet(upper) knees(middle) and hips(root).

The relationship between the three sections has its own unique functions. For instance when a movement is performed from one of the three sections，the other two sections must be in harmony to generate the power from the movement done, which means any movements must be supported by the power generated from the whole body. That’s how important it is for practitioners to understand the San Jie.

Four internal sensations(Qi si shao-齐四稍)

For the original gongfu theory, all parts of the body are connected to the central nerve system for instance, the hair is assumed as being the ending of the blood, the nails is the ending of the ligament, teeth is the ending of your bones and tongue is the ending of your muscles.

When you are practicing, you should get the sensations like your hair is lifting your scalp; and your nails are like trying to penetrate the bones; and teeth are like biting through steel and your tongue is like trying to push your teeth out of place. Then the internal power can be most generated. When the Qi raises from the Dantian, the Qi produces a sound with each movement, the sound follows the movements and work together as a whole. Then all the parts of the body are set into motion, and the internal energy can be generated completely.

So when you practice gong-fu, first you must understand the theory behind the method. Also you have to understand every part of your body within the movements and what it is used for. Only when you understand these, your practice will be effective and efficient. The theories we have explained above are only a part of the requirements of the practice of Xin Yi Ba. There are much more theories and practical application of Xin Yi Ba which can’t be put into words, but the practitioner must experience personally through training with the old training methods.
For Xin yi ba practice, there are some certain postures and movements to practice with the requirements, through practice you can become more proficient in the fighting strategy. And the practice can improve your gong-fu to the unlimited state. If one can reach the peak of the practice of Xin Yi Ba, then any movements performed can be called Xin Yi Ba.


information provide by wugulun gongfu association
Contact details wugulun@hotmail.com and sldj@shaolindj.com
www.shaolindj.com

well said, a monk couldn't have put it better himself.

[shaoshishan]

well said, a monk couldn't have put it better himself.

what do you mean by saying this???

[Vasquez]

what do you mean by saying this???

great thanks you've even got the chinese words happening. happy training