mantis108
11-16-2005, 12:14 PM
I don't want to hijack the other thread so I open this thread for consideration.
First and foremost, my usual caveats apply.
1) it is believed that Liang Xue Xiang visited or sojourned in Beijing when he was young. At the time he was working as an escort as well. He might have taught a few people his Tanglangquan there. We know that by 1842 CE he already has been teaching Bengbu, Luanjie (alias Meihwa) and Fenshen Bazhou.
2) Shifu Boa Guangying, who called his style Meihwa Shuaishou Tanglang, seemed to be only one that had students both in Guangdong and Beijing. He also worked as an escort in Beijing prior to moving to Guangdong. I have an article that is by one of his grand students that outlined what Boa taught to his student Liu Tan Feng.
Highlights of the corpus as follow:
Tanglang Shou Si Tang (Mantis Hands 4 roads)
Xiao Huyan Si Tang (little tiger swallow 4 roads)
Bengbu Liu Tang (crashing steps 6 roads) - 2 version old and new sessions.
Lanjie Si Tang (fence and intercept 4 roads)
Ba Zhou Ba Tang (eight elbows 8 roads)
Da Fanche
Xiao Fanche
Tanglang Dian Yue Quan 24 moves (pressure point strikes 24 moves)
Meihwa Siba Zhou Yi Tang (Plum Blossom 18 elbows 1 road)
Bagua Lan Men Quan (8 trigram blocking the Gate fist)
San Da San Shi Liu Da Tang (Loose stirkes 36 roads).
etc....
So not only is this somewhat close to Liang Xue Xiang's basic curriculum, this is also somewhat close to the current Haulin Tantui Tanglang's Tanglang side of things. The claim that Hualin Tantui has root in Meihwa Shuaishou is not entirely without evidence. However, it would seem that Meihwa Shuaishou has strong emphasis on the San Shou aspect rather than Taolu aspect. This is rather unlike Hualin in the USA IMHO.
That being said I would caution to draw any conclusion because there seems to be some theoretical differences that seem to have Sevenstar influence both found in Meihwa Shuaishou and Hualin Tantui Tanglang.
Mantis108
First and foremost, my usual caveats apply.
1) it is believed that Liang Xue Xiang visited or sojourned in Beijing when he was young. At the time he was working as an escort as well. He might have taught a few people his Tanglangquan there. We know that by 1842 CE he already has been teaching Bengbu, Luanjie (alias Meihwa) and Fenshen Bazhou.
2) Shifu Boa Guangying, who called his style Meihwa Shuaishou Tanglang, seemed to be only one that had students both in Guangdong and Beijing. He also worked as an escort in Beijing prior to moving to Guangdong. I have an article that is by one of his grand students that outlined what Boa taught to his student Liu Tan Feng.
Highlights of the corpus as follow:
Tanglang Shou Si Tang (Mantis Hands 4 roads)
Xiao Huyan Si Tang (little tiger swallow 4 roads)
Bengbu Liu Tang (crashing steps 6 roads) - 2 version old and new sessions.
Lanjie Si Tang (fence and intercept 4 roads)
Ba Zhou Ba Tang (eight elbows 8 roads)
Da Fanche
Xiao Fanche
Tanglang Dian Yue Quan 24 moves (pressure point strikes 24 moves)
Meihwa Siba Zhou Yi Tang (Plum Blossom 18 elbows 1 road)
Bagua Lan Men Quan (8 trigram blocking the Gate fist)
San Da San Shi Liu Da Tang (Loose stirkes 36 roads).
etc....
So not only is this somewhat close to Liang Xue Xiang's basic curriculum, this is also somewhat close to the current Haulin Tantui Tanglang's Tanglang side of things. The claim that Hualin Tantui has root in Meihwa Shuaishou is not entirely without evidence. However, it would seem that Meihwa Shuaishou has strong emphasis on the San Shou aspect rather than Taolu aspect. This is rather unlike Hualin in the USA IMHO.
That being said I would caution to draw any conclusion because there seems to be some theoretical differences that seem to have Sevenstar influence both found in Meihwa Shuaishou and Hualin Tantui Tanglang.
Mantis108