Measuring chi with a voltmeter !!! ????

[Wongsifu]

Hi guys about 4 days ago i picked up a mini digital voltmeter / ammeter i needed for the car and its been next to my computer since.
2 days ago i remembered the picture of the shaolin monk ligting the light bulb up with chi , or bioelectric force and i also remembered about how people say chi builds up resistance or whatever.

Anyway i decided to hold the + and - terminals in my hands and try to generate chi relax etc and see what happens, I had the dial set to direct current Volts and it showed up 0.28 !! I thought wow chi then i tohught im crazy ,
last nite i did the same and it registered 0.42 I thought hey this might actually work.

What made me write though was that tonight im really tired and feel really empty , not warm like usual i feel cold inside so i saw my trust voltmeter again , and i only registered 0.03 on the terminals !!!!

Anyone know anything about this (not about chi) about measuring chi like this
???
cheers for the info .

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[Wongsifu]

ps before you ask no i did not smoke crack or eat any funny looking mushrooms before i wrote this :D :D

what do bin laden and general custer have in common????
They're both wondering where the fu(k all of those tomahawks are coming from. - donated by mojo

[neptunesfall]

there is a qigong book by kenneth cohen [i think it's called 'the way of qigong']. somewhere in the book he talks about some of the medical experiments done to some qigong masters in china.
a woman Dr. [i forget her name] attempted to quantify qi. in her experiments she found that electrical, electromagnetic, fm radio waves and a few other things all increased emination from the bodies of these men while they would do their qigongs. just something interesting i remembered...

[prana]

hmm my concern is that I wonder how the voltmeter knows which way the current in our bodies are flowing. And if it doesnt, say if it is picking up Alternating Current, are we simply alternating at a frequnecy the voltmeter can understand ?

Hmmmm just thoughts. Wongsifu, I have an alternative explanation. Perhaps it is your body picking up 50/60Hz power from your house/room. Your body is like a resistor and your fingers sweat, causing a slight induction from the fluxes of the room.

Maybe try measuring outside, away from any inductive circuits ?

[Sharky]

if you were cold then you won't have as much moisture on your skin etc yadda yadda...

All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.

[jameswebsteruk]

Why do you think you are measuring chi, rather than simply electricity?

The human body, like all animals bodies, can generate small amounts of electricty.

What about static electricity?
When you scuff your shoes upon a rug on a dry winter day, your body can typically charge up to a several thousand volts with respect to the ground.

I used to wear a pair of sneakers which gave me a shock every dam time I touched my car. I got rid of them in the end. :) After a few months. I got to almost like it...

The chalice from the palace has the pellet with the poison,
The vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true!

[Daniel Madar]

Frank's right. You've just demonstrated why the Matrix exist. Machines need power, and we are walking batteries.

Merciless is Mercy.

[Kristoffer]

dude! We did this in 8 grade high school physics class :D LOL didnt u know this already? :D :D

~K~
"maybe not in combat..... but think of the chicks man, the chicks!"

[Wongsifu]

erm yeah guys but this is the whole point of writing this up , maybe you could answer with how much current is normal and ways of debunking my new chi-o-meter

what do bin laden and general custer have in common????
They're both wondering where the fu(k all of those tomahawks are coming from. - donated by mojo

[GunnedDownAtrocity]

maybe chi is electricity.

i have always said that.

i have no scientific/medical knowledge to back that up, but i always thought that would make sense.

i have heard that chi follows a path much like your circulatory system, which could be your nervous system . .. and electricity is the carrier of impulses for your nervous system. would it be impossible to be able to harness this current and focus it to one area of the body?

where's my beer?

[Mojo]

It works by measuring GSR (Galvonic Skin Response, or in English, your electrical skin resistance.) In simple terms, the more tense or stressed you are, the more your skin perspires (sweats) lowering your resistance. The more relaxed you are, the higher your resistance becomes. Works identical to a GSR meter on a polygraph machine.

[Kristoffer]

GDA,,
I've had those thoughts too.

~K~
"maybe not in combat..... but think of the chicks man, the chicks!"

[Universal Stance]

I've heard from a number of Qi/Chi/Ki specialists/masters who try to sound scientific state that chi is in fact body electricity. My experiences with it seems to conclude that is somewhat magnetic. Not as in static electricity though.

I take a Universal Stance regarding the Martial Arts.

"**** it's cold out here to be practicing."

[Yuen]

Every humanbeing has little bit of electricity flowing in the body. This is for the nerve cells in the brain. Humans can also represent a radio antenna, in fact there are those small Sony hand-radios which don't have an antenna - instead the antenna is you when you are touching it. The radio signals are taken by you and then transferred through your body to the radio. I don't think that you can measure your chi force with a voltimeter or ammeter :)

[bamboo_ leaf]

Question what is chi?
Answer I don’t know.

Well what about what I feel and can measure using a voltmeter?
No that’s not it.

But you said that you don’t know.
Yes, I don’t know, but I know that’s not it.

return to the wheel of life, not ready yet

bamboo leaf

[Kung Lek]

try this one, get a fluorecsent light tube.
Now stand under a high power line (the big ones that cut through your city town).
place a hand at each end of the tube.

cool eh? impress your friends :D

peace

Kung Lek

Martial Arts Links (http://members.home.net/kunglek)

[Nutt'nhunny]

You can use electricity. In fact my sifu invented a machine that will be passed down only in our lineage of Hsing I. I plugs into the wall and send chi into you body. You know those electrodes they use to contract? It works the opposite. Your chi gets swirling in no time. You can acumulate a weeks worth of chi kung in 5 minutes. He's improving the design, but who knows, maybe he can hook it up so he wears it when he fights to supercharge his hits.

[Mojo]

Nutt'nhunny
I thought you would enjoy this rare drawing of your sifu's device in action.
http://www.theelectricchair.com/kemmchar.GIF


:D

[prana]

When you connect the voltmeter to either hand, with the leads making a loop (sort of), you are becoming an inductive circuit for nearby magnetic fields, and therefore inducing a little current.

Because the ohm meter has very little resistance, by ohms law, most of the potential diff is in the higher resistance "body" and hence the voltage registered in the Voltmeter. You can see this if you voltmeter is set to AC (50/60 Hz). Perhaps stick your hands to an CRT to check...

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[jameswebsteruk]

On a slightly different topic, Leung Ting (yes, that WC Leung Ting) has written a great book debunking a lot of the chigung tricks used by unscrupulous "masters" to con the gullible. One of these was actually practised on a friend of mine in a TCM hospital in china.

The doctor stuck his fingers into a wallsocket, and lit up a light bulb held in his other hand. By concentrating, he could make the bulb glow brighter or darker.

My friend was amazed, his thought the guy should have been fried.

His first error was assuming that the voltage was 240, the same as in the UK. The second was not realising that you can routinely expose yourself to medium voltages with little ill effect. And the third was not realising that there was a guy with a dial on the other side of the wall, wiggling the dial and causing the resistance to change. :)

The chalice from the palace has the pellet with the poison,
The vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true!