does any one have ay info on Lohan Chuan fa

[greencloudtj]

Does any on have any info on a nothern system called Lohan Chuan fu,and what it intails??

[NorthernShaolin]

Is it fu or fa at the end? Which one is it?

[Chief Fox]

Yes, click here: http://images.google.com/images?q=lindsay+lohan&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

[greencloudtj]

Is it fu or fa at the end? Which one is it?
Im sorry about that it's fa

[greencloudtj]

Yes, click here: http://images.google.com/images?q=lindsay+lohan&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

Im a little confused with [troll] and what you mean by that,try to stay on topin im asking about a nothern system,i believe you train in a sothern system. If you have some info i would really apreciate it thanks a lot man..

peace

[greencloudtj]

Is it fu or fa at the end? Which one is it?
Nice web page it's very interesting..

[mantis108]

Luohan Quan Fa (Arhat Pugilism) is one of the most enigmatic system of Kung Fu IMHO. Most people believe that it came from within the walls of Shaolin. Personally, I think it is rather a work of grass root folk martial arts that got the attention of Henan Shaolin temple in recent years (after the Qing dynasty and Republic time). What we see in Henan Shaolin temple today is IMHO more than likely a fabrication of modern Wushu mentality. It has no real base whatsoever. Having said that there are some real Kung Fu styles that would be once derived from the real Luohan Men (Arhat system). For example, there are reminence of it known to be associated with Fujian White Crane, Wuzuquan, Hong Jia/Hung Gar, etc...

There is also a manuscript titled "Luohan Xinggong Duanda" (Arhat Exercise Merits Short Strikes), Which is said to have been passed down by Shaolin Monk Fuju, who is often argued by many as the Shaolin Abbot Fuyu during Yuan dynasty. I can't find credible support for Fuju being the same person as Fuyu. Anyway, this manuscipt is written by a native of Shandong province. His name (possibly pen name) is Sheng Xiao Dao Ren who is also considered an important exponent of Shandong Tanglang Quan (Praying Mantis Style). In fact, some people in Tanglang Men coined certain Tanglang branch as Luohan Tanglang. Furthermore, this manuscript's theoretical potion has also been absorbed into "Tanglang Quanpu" (CE 1935). There is a publication of the Luohan Xinggong Duanda in 1934 by a martial artist named Wang Yifu. But there is a lot of typo and missing parts to it that would make it hard for the general readers to comprehend.

BTW, there is also Mizhong Luohan which I am not too familiar with. May be Northern Shaolin (the member here) is a better person to ask.

Mantis108

[pablitop]

hi, i practice choy lee fut actually, but when GM Chan Kowk Wai came to argentina and taught some seminars, i learnt a LO HAN form called just LO HAN #1

i believe this style comes directly from the shaolin temple

GM Chan learnt the lo han style from MA KIM FONG

if anyone can trace information about Ma Kim Fong would be great, cuz i couldn´t find any

what i can say about the style is that is is really northern in flavor, powerfull, and strong... there is nothing subtle about this style... i like the form a lot, though... pretty easy and short


regards
pablo

[Chief Fox]

Im a little confused with [troll] and what you mean by that,try to stay on topin im asking about a nothern system,i believe you train in a sothern system. If you have some info i would really apreciate it thanks a lot man..

peace
Sorry dude, it was a joke. I used the [troll] tag to indicate that my post wouldn't offer up any worthy information. I guess I was in a weird mood yesterday. Again, I apologize. I meant no disrespect.

[million]

Yes, click here: http://images.google.com/images?q=lindsay+lohan&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images


thats funny!

[pablitop]

http://www.ccak.org/index.php/Luohan_Quan_(en)

[Green Cloud]

Luohan Quan Fa (Arhat Pugilism) is one of the most enigmatic system of Kung Fu IMHO. Most people believe that it came from within the walls of Shaolin. Personally, I think it is rather a work of grass root folk martial arts that got the attention of Henan Shaolin temple in recent years (after the Qing dynasty and Republic time). What we see in Henan Shaolin temple today is IMHO more than likely a fabrication of modern Wushu mentality. It has no real base whatsoever. Having said that there are some real Kung Fu styles that would be once derived from the real Luohan Men (Arhat system). For example, there are reminence of it known to be associated with Fujian White Crane, Wuzuquan, Hong Jia/Hung Gar, etc...

There is also a manuscript titled "Luohan Xinggong Duanda" (Arhat Exercise Merits Short Strikes), Which is said to have been passed down by Shaolin Monk Fuju, who is often argued by many as the Shaolin Abbot Fuyu during Yuan dynasty. I can't find credible support for Fuju being the same person as Fuyu. Anyway, this manuscipt is written by a native of Shandong province. His name (possibly pen name) is Sheng Xiao Dao Ren who is also considered an important exponent of Shandong Tanglang Quan (Praying Mantis Style). In fact, some people in Tanglang Men coined certain Tanglang branch as Luohan Tanglang. Furthermore, this manuscript's theoretical potion has also been absorbed into "Tanglang Quanpu" (CE 1935). There is a publication of the Luohan Xinggong Duanda in 1934 by a martial artist named Wang Yifu. But there is a lot of typo and missing parts to it that would make it hard for the general readers to comprehend.

BTW, there is also Mizhong Luohan which I am not too familiar with. May be Northern Shaolin (the member here) is a better person to ask.

Mantis108

That sounds great,I train in choy li fut,so most of my knowledge is in the sothern style's. The problem is is that there is some one in my are who clames to teach traditional Lohan Chuan fa,off course a Nothern style. When I begain my reserch on this style being a traditional system i came up with nota. Thats why I turned to choy li fut with sifu gus a top disiple of grand master chan Tai San. well thats a lot peace

[pablitop]

a great and reknowed lo han practicioner is master shek kin
he was master of lee koon hung, son maybe someone from lkh school can add up something about luo han...

[ingchao]

TJ,
Were you referring to the "Shaolin" Kung Fu group on Long Island led by Sifu Moses? If so, Lohan Chuan is the claimed name of their style.

P.s. I studied w/them for about a year.

[NorthernShaolin]

Ma Kim Fung was born in January 8, 1916 in Tai Shan, Guang Dong Provence, China. His first teacher was Wong Tak Hing who taught him BSL Lo Han, (Hua) Flower Fist, Wu Tang Sword and Tai Chi Chuan. His secod teacher was Sun Yu Fung (Suen Yuk Fung) who taught at the Jing Mo School in Canton and is known as King of Sabers. Sun taught MKF BSL Lo Han (there are 18 Fist Sets in this particular Lo han style), weapons and the 10 standard Jing Mo sets. MKF's third teacher was Kuo Yu Chang who taught MKF the 10 BSL sets and weapons.

MKF became famous for his Lo Han and taught in China then Hong Kong and in 1994 moved to Canada. One of his more well know students are Wong Jack Man and Chan Kwock Wai with WJM being the more senior.

MKF was a lower classmate of Shek Kin who was one of the 12 disciples of Sun Yu Fung.

[NorthernShaolin]

Mi Tsung Lo Han is a style that was made famous by Yip Yee Ting who ran the family escort busness and has many disciples in USA. His teacher was his uncle who was a classmate of Sun Yu Fung and the style Mi Tsung Lo han was originally kept as a family secret because the style was used in the escord business.

Anyway the characters Mi Tsung Lo Han translates to Lost Track Buddha style which is different than Mi Tsung style that Huo Yuen Chia taught. Huo's style translates to Ancestor Style. It is said that the Yip family combines the two styles together, Mii Tsung and Lo Han. But this is just one version of how the style came into existance. Another version has it that the style was created on ice and is an off spring of Shaolin Lo Han. A Shaolin Monk who specialized in Lo Han was confronted by an opponent. The opponent was aware that the monk was a master of a secret style called Shaolin Lo Han and realized the only way to defeat the monk was to learn the monk's style. As they were fighting the opponent observed the monk's footsteps and placed his foot over the monk's foot imprints on the ice (snow). The monk realized what the opponent was attempting to learn his style while fighting so the monk reversed his foot steps. Unknowningly the opponent got confused as he was trying to follow the foot prints on the ice. The monk defeated his opponent and realized that he had improvised and invented a new style, Lost Track Lo han.

[Ben Gash]

Some very good info posted here, however, it is also worth bearing in mind that in the last 5 years "Lohan Chuan Fa" and "Shaolin Chuan Fa" have been increasingly common names for made up sub kenpo styles :mad:

[pablitop]

thank you very much northernshaolin..!
i looked all over the internet trying to find anything about ma kim fong, but it was useless!
u seem to be like a gung fu encyclopedia! :)

did u have the opportunity to learn some of the lo han sets that WJM learnt from MKF?


regards from argentina

pablo

[NorthernShaolin]

yes I and most of WJM's students who wanted to learn Lo Han sets received the lessons. Out of the many students of MKF, WJM received the most knowledge of Lo Han. Exactly how many Lo han sets that was taught to him is not known but when conversing with my sisuks, out of the 18 Lo han sets, they say that to their knowledge, WJM learned at least 11 sets. To this day, he has never let it be known how many Lo Han sets he knows.

[greencloudtj]

TJ,
Were you referring to the "Shaolin" Kung Fu group on Long Island led by Sifu Moses? If so, Lohan Chuan is the claimed name of their style.

P.s. I studied w/them for about a year.


Yes thats who I am talking about I tranied with them for about a year 1/2. I had done a lot of reserch on them and came up with evrey thing but kung fu. I have bin doing martial arts for about 8 years starting with kempo. frome there I had gone over to shaolin. I then had come across one of the best sifu's I have ever met.. Sifu gug Kaparos,He is truley one of the most nolagable sifus out there and it is a true oner to be one of his students. let me no how you felt about shaolin and there cl;amed style

[Jules]

TJ,
Were you referring to the "Shaolin" Kung Fu group on Long Island led by Sifu Moses? If so, Lohan Chuan is the claimed name of their style.

P.s. I studied w/them for about a year.

Up in Rocky Point? I wondered about that place because I pass by there every week.

~~Jules

[Green Cloud]

That is what it's called in english, so I guess that's probably means any interpetation of any style. I'm not sure if it's a system as much as it is a series of forms that some styles have. But I don't think I'ts a style.