Bak Mei or Juk Lum clips

[Phil Redmond]

Does anyone know where I can find some Bak Mei of Juk Lum clips? I have demo videos from years ago in NYC on VHS but I'd like clips to send to a Bak Hok practitioner who sent me this link: http://www.yongchunbaihechuen.com/videos.html
The guy at the top is the head of the system at the
moment.
Phil

[kung fu fighter]

Short preview clip here on Futshan Bak Mei:
www.komudokwan.com/FutshanBakMeiPai.htm

http://www.yaukungmun.com.au

http://www.undergroundkungfu.com

Here are some sites I just came across on Bai Mei Quan:

http://www.chinesemartialarts.org.nz/
http://www.pakmeinyc.net
http://wahnam.com.au/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=5

http://undergroundkungfu.com/

http://www.komudokwan.com/FutshanBakMeiPai.htm

www.tigerkungfu.com
www.flyingphoenix.us

[Hai_To]

Here is Sifu Kwong Man Fong from New York City:

http://www.pakmeinyc.net/vids/sifu.mp4

[Phil Redmond]

Here is Sifu Kwong Man Fong from New York City:

http://www.pakmeinyc.net/vids/sifu.mp4
Thank you both. (The one of Sifu Kwong Man Fong is only music).
Phil

[Hai_To]

Phil,

Do you have Quicktime on your computer? You'll need that to play the clip correctly (video and audio).

HT

[Phil Redmond]

Phil,

Do you have Quicktime on your computer? You'll need that to play the clip correctly (video and audio).

HT
OK thanks, I'm computer illiterate. :)
Phil

[Phil Redmond]

I saw the clip and thank you.
I also have a cilp (it's very poor quality), of a Bak Mei form. It performed by my friend Jalal Mansur Nuriddin of "The Last Poets" who is now in Paris. http://www.grandfatherofrap.com
He studied from Kwong Man Fong. The clip is from the grand opening of the Soho Fitness Center in 1983 where I was the manager and also taught Wing Chun: http://www.sifupr.com/videos/Bak_Mei.MPG
Phil

[fiercest tiger]

Hi Phil,

This form looked like saam mun bagua kuen 3 door 8 directional fist although just portions he started one way and finished wrong way, maybe he cut the form in half and forgot which way he finished?

Thanks for the clip!

regards
Garry FT

[Phil Redmond]

Hi Phil,

This form looked like saam mun bagua kuen 3 door 8 directional fist although just portions he started one way and finished wrong way, maybe he cut the form in half and forgot which way he finished?

Thanks for the clip!

regards
Garry FT
I'll presume that you're refering to the White Crane link I posted that has a few forms on it.
http://www.yongchunbaihechuen.com/videos.html
I got the clips from an English guy who is now living in Spain. He's been to Wing Chun (Yong Chun) city to study Wing Chun White Crane. My interest was that some have said that Bak Hok, Bak Mei, Wing Chun, and Lung Ying have roots in Hakka martial arts. I do see some similarities in them all. But that doesn't prove a connection of course.
Phil

[fiercest tiger]

Hi,


Nah, im talking about this clip!

http://www.sifupr.com/videos/Bak_Mei.MPG

I think wingchun is softer then the hakka arts of bak mei, lung ying, mantis, fukien white crane but doesnt mean its not effective softer is better!! ;)

be easy
FT

[Phil Redmond]

Hi,


Nah, im talking about this clip!

http://www.sifupr.com/videos/Bak_Mei.MPG

I think wingchun is softer then the hakka arts of bak mei, lung ying, mantis, fukien white crane but doesnt mean its not effective softer is better!! ;)

be easy
FT
Thanks, I'll ask him.
Phil

[Phil Redmond]

FT, do you see any simililarities between Bak Mei and the Bak Hok forms in the link I posted?
Phil

[fiercest tiger]

Yes, but differences in power generation and softness that bak mei uses comparing to Bak Hok.

Fukien white crane is closer to southern mantis then bak mei pai IMHO, but some may say im wrong.

cheers
FT

[Hai_To]

Phil,

Here is another video from Kwong Man Fong's school. It's a compilation of various forms done by his students.

http://www.pakmeinyc.net/vids/forms.mp4

Comparing it to the Bak Hok videos, you'll notice that there are more differences than similarities.

Hai_To

[Southern Fist]

Ok could not see the clips. I s their any other way.

[Southern Fist]

Ok could not see the clips. Is their any other way.

[Phil Redmond]

Phil,

Here is another video from Kwong Man Fong's school. It's a compilation of various forms done by his students.

http://www.pakmeinyc.net/vids/forms.mp4

Comparing it to the Bak Hok videos, you'll notice that there are more differences than similarities.

Hai_To

Bak Mei has always been a style I liked. Those are some very good clips. I learned a little Bak Mei from a student at the school on E. Bway in NYC. It looks like some of those clips were taken at the NYC school. I remember seeing the red circles on the Bak Mei uniforms.
Thanks for sending the link to those clips.
Phil

[MAX]

i want more clips for Pak mei

dose any one have?
pleas links.........

[Yum Cha]

Max,
You should understand, the quickest way to get disowned by your sifu in Pak Mei is to publish videos.

With few exceptions.

[Ao Qin]

Yum Cha is correct! We have to be very careful how we represent our style - once it's published, it can't be taken back. Good thing there's some quality control out there for BM and LY!

FT - do you really think WC is "softer" than LY or BM?!? This seems a strange statement!!!

Cheers - Kevin

[NeedsPractice]

Looking at the bak mei clips I could believe wing chun to be softer depending on whose wing chun , although the strikes should have the same explosive power.

[fiercest tiger]

Hi Ao,

Sorry for the late reply, just through my experiences and training in both wing chun and bak mei i feel wingchun to be softer due to its way of force and angles to bak mei linear moves. Softer does not mean better in this case just when in comparision thats all. Better is within the person fighting!

I agree with Yum Cha about the videos, although you cant judge people on a video as he is trying to put across his knowledge and everyone is different. So far MKF has his sup jee, you have the jik bo of dr wong, jik bo and sup jee of the stone mason guys or whoever it is. You have the china 9 step push and of course the fish munger dude with his dvds.

Same goes for Yip with his dragon and the china vcd 5 horses returns i think you shouldnt be too harsh cause everyone is different its the knowledge that is put on the tape/dvd etc.

If you are Sifu and quilfied to teach you are quilified to produce your own system on dvd if you wish.

Garry

[Sui]

yeah i agree alot of w@nk out there.i swear one day i'm gonna do you clip and show you guys real pak mei in its essence cause these clips are ablout a -1000 compared to yours truly.lol(for free)

one of the guys looks like a young version of an ex-si-hing of mine,one of the reasons why he was kicked out.won 3 comps(forms) 2 of which were behind his si-fu's back tut tut tut."vanity" so much can be said eh fellas?

[TigerHok]

Just joined this forum. Wow so much to read. Some very nice clips of white eyebrow!

I always had an intrest in this style but not many teachers that know it. Makes me wanna move to NYC.

Any more clips?

[Lama Pai Sifu]

I was just at the New Martial Hero magazine banquet in Hong Kong in December. Some of the better stuff done was Chow Ga praying mantis. I filmed it and I'll post up a clip by tomorrow.

[kismet]

wow, I look forward to those clips! thanks!

[kismet]

I was just at the New Martial Hero magazine banquet in Hong Kong in December. Some of the better stuff done was Chow Ga praying mantis. I filmed it and I'll post up a clip by tomorrow.

Hi LPS, did you manage to post these clips up at all anywhere? Thanks

[Lama Pai Sifu]

No, I'm sorry I never posted them. I'll get to it. I'm just going to post some sections of forms, I don't want anyone to get upset if thier whole form is posted. Gotta respect people's privacy at least a bit....

They were definately very good though...especially some of the old sifu..they got some standing ovations....very powerful....