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Firehawk4
02-20-2006, 02:14 AM
What do these Hakka Boxing forms mean in english ?
Gei Boon Tek Bo Kuen

Gei Boon Sau Faat Kuen
Jeun Yap Tong Long Kuen

Hei Kiu Kuen
Gaan Mun Kung Poh Kuen

Do Jeun Kuen
Tong Long Hei Kung Kuen
Yat Chi Kuen

Sup Chi Kuen

Baat Gwa Kuen
Lin Waan Po Kuen

Jung Tow Kuen

Hung Foh Kuen
Siu Juk Lam Kuen

Siauw Chuk Lim Kune

Naam Fa Sau Kuen
Tong Long Say Faat Kuen

Daai Juk Lam Kuen
Yat Bo Kuen

Saam Bo Kuen

Ng Bo Kuen

Chut Bo Kuen

Gau bo Kuen

Tong Long Chut Yin Kuen

Do Seung Wu Jaak Su Kuen
Ying Ying Tong Long Kuen

Hau Ying Tong Long Kuen

Hok Ying Long Long Kuen

Sek Ying Tong Long Kuen

Fung Ying Tong Long Kuen

Ng Ying Tong Long Kuen

Giuk Hiam Shu Kune
Tong Long Mui Fa Jung

Tong Long Saat Jarn

Tong Long Saat San Ji

Tong Long Saat Kuen

Jeui Tong Long Kuen

Taan Sou Kuen

Hoi Saan Moon Kuen

Firehawk4
02-20-2006, 02:49 AM
The history of the southern Gottesanbeterin is not to be investigated particularly in its beginnings today to no more and by legends surrounded. It gives, or better, Yun Nan, Kuang Xi, Fu Jian and canton gave three and/or four basis schools in the provinces. The first basis school is the Qin Chung Pai school of the province Yun Nan. The second basis school is the Chu Lin Jia (Juk Lam). From it and the Qin Chung Pai school develop the Hui Jia (Wooi) school. Today there are however no teachers of the Qin Chung Pai and the Hui Jia school more. The third basis school originates from the province Fu Jian (Hokkian) and Ke Jia (Hakka) school (after the race of the Hakka) is called
The Hakka was and/or. is a race, which similarly our gypsies, by whom different southern provinces moved. They were not poor and due to their other life habits and its language gladly seen. Their Kung Fu schools and systems was passed on therefore in each case at pupils of their own people and remained to a large extent secret into the today's time. The third basis school is of the monk the Chu Fook ton based hooks Ka Tong Long school. It is called also Kwangtung and/or canton Hakka Tong Long. It split, after it brought Grossmmeister Lau Siu to Hong Kong, into the two systems Chu Kune and Chow up Kune. Vielfaetig is also reported that the second basis school Kuang Xi Chu Lin Jia (Juk Lam) descends from the third basis school.
Beside the school of Chu Fook ton gives it still another second basis school hook ka direction. Of it is here reported, however it is expressly pointed out that it concerns a legend, which was not passed on in the family Sou and for it proofs gives
The developing legend of the Hokkian Hakka Naam Paai Tong Long Sou Kune school
From this direction Sou DAK Loong is considered as a founder of the second basis school hooks ka. It is reported by it that it as a farmer during the early seaweed dynasty (618-907 n. Chr.) in the province Fu Jian lived. While a over case of robbers it was separated from its family and hurt heavily. Its wife died, its son Sou Cheung Shik buildup with his uncle. DAK Loong was taken up by monks of the "Siu Chuk Lam Ji" - monastery and maintained healthy. Siu Chuk Lam Ji was a small folder "there of the Chuk Lam Ji" - monastery, which lay more north, as the master monastery. By that altogether 25 monastery members 18 monks were trained and in Kung Fu. Their style was not uniform and it gave according to the 18 monks 18 different animal styles, which were there: 1.Lung (Drache); 2.Hu (tiger); 3. She (queue); 4.Pao (leopard); 5.Hao (Kranich); 6. Hou (ape); 7.Ying (eagle); 8. Fung (Phoenix); 9. Kou (dog); 10. Mao (Katze);11. Xiang (elephant); 12. Shi (lion); 11 Hsiong (bear); 12.Ma (horse); 13.Xing (gorilla); 14. Lue (deer); 13. Niao (bird) and 15.Shan Mo (luchs). Each monk controlled an animal school. The names of the monks depended on the animal, which they represented. The abbott of the temple was the "kite monk". After the recovery DAK Loong wanted to likewise become monk and learn Kung Fu. It watched secretly the combat exercises of the other monks and learned so the basis techniques. But around an adequate monk to become it had to develop its own animal style on instruction of the abbott. That was not simple, because all "strong" animals were already "assigned". DAK Loong sat down on a meadow and watched the other monks training. There he saw a Gottesanbeterin, which fought with a bird and finally drove this out in the Grass. Curiously become DAK Loong carried the animal forward and fed it with grasshoppers and other insects. From the catch and flappings he developed his own style. Thus it was able to defeat some the other monks with training. He trained now together with the monks and combined new techniques in addition. Although it practiced at the same time with all, it took over only certain techniques, which meaningful it considered. After years intensive trainings he was even in a the position to defeat the abbott and after its death became DAK Loong an abbott of the temple and received the title "large Drache". Only later DAK Loong experienced years that its son Cheung Shik still lived. It informed it secretly outside of the temple. Thus the "Siu Chuk Lam Tong Long" Kung Fu was outward carried. Sou Cheung Shik kept the art exclusive in the family. Only the school later divided 5 generations. Sou Lan mix emigrated after north China and brought the school to the emperor palace, its brother Sou San Tong remained in canton and passed the school on within his family. With ends the part which is passed on in the family Sou as legend. The following part is indicated as true history.

The history of the Hokkian Hakka Naam Paai

Firehawk4
02-20-2006, 02:54 AM
After the complete assumption in the year 1644 it gave constantly heavy fights between the Ming rebels and the Ching soldiers to the government by the Manchus. Nearly all Kung Fu schools and master revolted against the Manchus. Also Sou Fong Gim, Nafchfahre of the "Siu Chuk Lam Tong Long" school after Sou San Tong fought also. It possessed two sons, Sou Fook Loong and Sou Ching Loong, which were both twins. There however after old law of the family only the oldest son (no daughter) the school to resume, decided Sou Fong Gim, which both brothers fight against each other to let and the winner might resume the school, was allowed.

The Yin Yeung Tong Long school develops
Sou Ching Loong was already superior to its brother since earliest childhood physically, it was substantially stronger. In order to be able to defeat its brother, Fook Long observed two Gottesanbeterinnen in the fight against each other, which he marked by a white and a black point on the back. Thus it studied not groove the attacks of the two insects, but particularly the defense techniques of each individual Gottesanbeterin. In the fight against its brother it could repel and counter with it each attack and defeat its brother. He became successor of its father and developed in such a way the "Yin Yang seaweed long" school (sometimes not to confound with that as Yin Yang seaweed long school long Pai likewise designated direction of the northern Gottesanbeterin of the Tai Chi seaweed). Many terms and basic patterns today still descend from this school
Internal techniques and color magic one introduces
Its son Sou Cheng pan resumed the tradition. It refined the techniques and marked different Gottesanbeterinnen with color points and let it fight against each other. From the techniques of each Gottesanbeterin it developed forms (Kuen) and combined these forms with magic and taoistischen ways of thinking.
Sou Cheng pan passed its techniques on to its son Sou seaweed Loong. This informed again are son Sou Wan Loong. Wan Loong introduced "internal techniques" to the school. Its style became thereby than this before the case was substantially softer. Wan Loong passed its style on to its son Sou Hung Ping.

Hakka Say Kune(of four fists of the Hakka) develops
Sou hung Peng was a freedom fighter in addition, an excellent master of the Sou Tong Long school. During its many migrations by China he learned you Yang of brothers Yang Shan Tong (Lung Ying Pai: = Kite style) and Yang Shan Chi (Fung Ying Pai; = Phoenix style) as well as the beggar Lim Bek Sen (Bek chew Pai; = white apes) know style. The four combined its techniques and it developed the Hakka Say Kune school. From it the famous "Say company Kuen" (4 methods of fists) followed, which was used later even in some Japanese carat styles.

Firehawk4
02-20-2006, 02:56 AM
The Sou Tong Long school and the Tai Ping revolution
Hakka Say Kune was passed on nationality exclusively to member of the Hakka -, however the four teachers had only ten pupils. Sou Ping hung had three sons: Sou Ng Kong, Sou Bak Lay and Sou Bak Loong. The middle son Sou Bak Lay became inheritance of the Hakka Say Kune technology, its older brother Sou Ng Kong against it inheritance of the old Sou Tong Long school. Sou Bak Loong, the youngest son learned likewise the old Sou Tong Long school, but he was not a fighter and was more interested in the trade, than its both brothers, who were substantially better fighters. While Sou Ng Kong its Kung Fu for itself kept, Sou Bak Lay pupils trained, who should make the revolution of the old traditions. It was a revolutionary and a close friend of Hung Hsiu Chuan, the large Hakka leader of the Tai Ping rebel. During the preparation to the Tai Ping many famous fighters in the house of Sou Bak Lay met revolution (1850-1864). Here also a meeting of the other schools of the southern Gottesanbeterin (the school after Chu Fook ton and the Qin Chung Pai school) was, as well as other Hakka schools.

Sou Lian Kong combines the different schools of the southern Gottesanbeterin
Sou Bak Lays brother Sou Bak Loong lived with its family in canton. When it and his wife with a house fire died, its son Sou Lian Kong stayed alone. It lived as a vagabond in the roads and because it was very weak, it was frequently struck and flogged by Wegelagerern and other people. A daily came a monk named Lee SAM Sien from the Juk Lam monastery of the province Kuang Xi into the area. Sou Lian Kong followed the monk and learned with it the Kuang Xi Juk Lam Tong Long technology (the southern Gottesanbeterin of the province Kuang Xi). Meanwhile Lee SAM Sian had experienced the fact that Sou Lian Kong was a nephew of Sou Bak Lay was and brought it in its house. But only later Lian Kong its master left 5 years, in order to decrease/go back and to it the last honour prove its dying uncle Sou Ng Kong, which lived in the house of its brother Sou Bak Lay. From Ng Kong he learned the old Sou - techniques, before this died, of Sou Bak Lay the Hakka Say Kune, whereby he attached naturally particular importance to the technology of the southern Gottesanbeterin, which possessed certain similarities with the Juk Lam school. In this time it often visited the Tong Long school of the province Yun Nan, the Qin Chung Pai school gotten used to with its uncle as a courier. Since Sou Bak Lay with one Kung Toh, which large master of the Qin Chung Pai school was very closely friendly, became it also its nephew permitted to participate in instruction. Thus it was informed not only in the basis techniques, but also in the higher forms.

Firehawk4
02-20-2006, 03:02 AM
Sou Lian Kong became acquainted with in this time also teachers of other schools. After the death of Sou Bak Lay left Lian Kong the house of his uncle, married closely Miao Leng and settled in a small village Kun Gan in canton. Kune after its death it left its son Tid Mun its style, which it called Sou Kune to Kun Gan, the homeland of the "new one" Sou. Sou Tid Mun did not live as a farmer in Kun Gan. it was a large fighter, but passed on its Kung Fu to its two sons Sou Wai Keung and Sou Yaat Loong. Its second son Sou min Loong died with 12 years. When continual robbers broke in into the village and terrorized the inhabitants, the village municipality decided to send their oldest sons on journeys in order to learn and their village to defend be able Kung Fu. That was a heavy decision, because from then on naturally many workers were missing, but the farmers did not see other possibility. Thus they created the Kun Gan secret federation, which had put itself it to the goal of destroying all injustice. Particularly naturally the robber troops. Sou Wai Keung creates the "new" Sou Kune also Sou Wai Keung, the oldest son left the village. He had learned of course from childhood to the Sou Kune technology of its father, in addition, he took off, in order to learn new techniques. It looked for schools, which used long hand techniques, because the Sou Kune school did not know these techniques. After history he is to have partly learned different styles in different cities south of China. But no style pleased it so much that it decided to learn it completely. With its migrations he came also to Lo Ping into the province Yun Nan. lived there an old Lama priest with names came Po. of these was a master that Lama and Boc Hok Pai school (white Kranich). Sou Wai Keung became its best pupil. After it 7 years the Bok Hoc Pai - school had learned, it teachers in the house of his master, its master taught its faithful pupil thereafter over 3 years the old secret Lama techniques, to those also SI there Tui techniques belonged. To the death of its teacher Sou Wai Keung returned to its homeland village Kun Gan. There it met all its old friends again, who were likewise taken off in accordance with the rule of their village, in order to learn new Kung Fu techniques. With its friends he trained together and learned also their techniques. Out of the in such a way acquired knowledge it formed 1922 its own style, which it called SOU KUNE. One notes that for the first time particle emerges here "" (family). This should indicate, particularly in the public that it concerns a family style, contrary to the techniques of the Sou Kune practiced before in the secret one. Sou Wai Keung passed its system on to its younger brother Sou Yat Loon. This added the system two Shao Lin of styles, which he had learned in Shanghai in addition, without changing however thereby the basis forms of its brother. Successor Sou Yat Loongs, that again techniques noerdl. Gottesanbeterin the system added and it on then to his pupil Hans Ulrich summer passed.
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kismet
02-20-2006, 03:54 AM
i would really be interested in seeing some of those forms...might email them and ask for pics or a video clip.

Firehawk4
02-20-2006, 04:06 AM
I would like to see some pictures or forms myself . They have a interesting history .

Firehawk4
02-20-2006, 04:24 AM
In This link they mention Gow Bo Kuen Form i wonder if its the same Gow Bo Kuen form that i listed in the Sou Gar Hakka Tong Long list above ? The thing about this form if they are the same is one would be from Sou Gar Hakka Tong Long and another or same form in from Bok Fu Pai White Tiger and Pak Mei White Eybrow styles there three step and Nine step pushes forms ?
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