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spaced
05-27-2006, 04:33 AM
Hi

Des anyone know where I can view/download videos on white crane kung fu?

Cheers

Ben Gash
05-27-2006, 05:17 AM
On a thread on this forum :rolleyes:
http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39988&page=2

Lama Pai Sifu
05-27-2006, 05:18 AM
what kind of white crane are you talking about?

Tibetan (from the style Lama Pai) or Fukien?

Ben Gash
05-27-2006, 06:22 AM
Sifu Parrella, will those old instructional Vids you did ever be re-released? Or will you be doing any more?

bustr
05-27-2006, 12:51 PM
what kind of white crane are you talking about?

Tibetan (from the style Lama Pai) or Fukien?

Forgive my ignorance but are the two styles related? I'm reading Michael P Staples' book and he says they are. However when I look at his style it bears no resemblance to the crane boxing in karate or the Fujian Baihe that Martin Watts demonstrates here:

www.fujianbaihe.com

Ben Gash
05-31-2006, 08:41 AM
Karate is descended from Fujian Crane yeas.
As for the other question, confusion arises because there are 2 southern white crane systems. There's Fujian Bai He, but there's also another system of Tibetian descent, a cousin to Lama Pai and Hop Gar, which as with those systems (to a greater or lesser extent) looks like Tibetian Kung Fu crossed with Cantonese Shaolin.

Ben Gash
06-01-2006, 02:39 AM
:rolleyes: there are Fujian BaiHe and Hop Gar clips, on the video thread on this foum (see the link in my previous post)

TenTigers
06-01-2006, 07:39 AM
the short-hand techniques of Lama and Hop[-Ga bear strong resemblance to many of Fukien White Crane techniques which suggests a connection. Leung Guan studied with a sum-duhk monk from Tibet, and it is alsosuggested that Sahm-Dot-the founder of SPM might also be from Tibet as well.

Lama Pai Sifu
06-01-2006, 08:26 AM
I do not agree TT. Although I am far from an expert in Fukien white crane, I have never seen any connection whatsoever to the Tibetan styles of Lama/White Crane/Hop Ga.

No connection other than; every style shares commonality with others.

:) :) :)

TenTigers
06-01-2006, 10:44 AM
In David Chin's book on Hop-Ga, he shows twelve short-hand techniques. Many of these are similar to short hand techniques seen in Fukien White Crane as well as in SPM. I cannot say for the usage, as I am not knowledgable on this subject, and Iknow appearances are far different than usage, but there are still similarities.
What can you offer on the twelve short hand techniques?

Lama Pai Sifu
06-01-2006, 01:37 PM
I haven't seen the book you are referring to in a looong time.

But I can tell you that in Lama Pai (The style which birthed Haap Ga and Bok Hok Pai - white crane style) there is no set of "twelve shorthand techniques."

Although LP is by design a long-range style, there are many techniques that are considered 'short-range' as well. But they do not look like, nor are the used like the one's in fukiese White Crane. Besides, even if you could find a few moves that LOOK similiar, their use and certainly their energy/play is totall different. Not similiar at all.

By the way, TT are you going to the Jow Tigers tourny next weekend? If you are, I'll see you there!

TenTigers
06-01-2006, 01:48 PM
can't-my daughters are in a show that weekend, and I can't miss them perform.
Good luck to your guys=bring home the gold!

jack
06-03-2006, 08:47 AM
If we observe carefully. Bagua, Wingchun, Yongchun Whitecrane, Xingyi, Taiji & Praying Mantis etc. all share certain kinds of resemblances.