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mooyingmantis
06-01-2006, 05:58 AM
Friends,
Here is my translation of the WHF Black Tiger Criss-Cross set.
The English translation of each caption is followed by the Mandarin (pinyin) and Cantonese pronunciations. You will notice that I chose very literal translations of each word rather than following some of the more common interpretations of the words. For example, I translated the word, diao, as "wicked" rather than "hook". "Wicked/Perverse" is the literal dictionary definition. "Hook" is an interpretation based on the hand gesture's appearance.
Comments and/or corrections are always appreciated!

My reference material consisted of: A Pocket Dictionary of Cantonese, Hong Kong University Press and the Concise English-Chinese Chinese-English Dictionary, Oxford University Press.


WHF Hei Hu Jiao Cha/Haak Fu Gaau Cha Translation

01. Middle Level Twins Store Up Power
zhong ping shuang xu shi
jung ping seung chuk sai
02. Seven Star, Left Wicked Palm
qi xing zuo diao zhang
chat sing tsoh diu sao
03. Upward Step, Double Wicked Hands
shang bu shuang diao shou
sheung bu seung diu sao
04. Seven Star, Right Wrapping Silk
qi xing you chan si
chat sing yau chin sz
05. Seven Star, Hang Gathering Strike
qi xing gua tong chui
chat sing kwa tong cheui
06. Skim Palm, Right Seize Leg
pie zhang you zhua tui
pit jeung yau jaau teui
07. Seven Star, Right Fill In Strike
qi xing you bu chui
chat sing yau bou cheui
08. Ascend Mountain, Right Lower Drag
deng shan you di qian
dang saan yau dai hin
09. Raise Leg, Seal Gathering Strike
ti tui feng tong chui
tai teui fung tong cheui
10. Take A Fall, Returning Folding Elbow
tun ta fan die zhou
tan taap faan dip jau
11. Ascend Mountain, Right Crushing Strike
deng chan you beng chui
dang saan yau bung cheui
12. Take A Fall, Lower Catch Cicada
tun ta di bu chan
tan taap dai bou sim
13. Ascend Mountain, Right Crushing Step
deng shan you beng chui
dang saan yau bung cheui
14. Running Step, Lower Catch Cicada
zou bu di bu chan
jau bouh dai bou sim
15. Ascend Mountain, Right Uppercut Strike
deng shan you cuo chui
dang saan yau cho cheui
16. Prop Leg, Left Rushing Strike
cheng tui zuo chong chui
chaang teui tsoh chung cheui
17. Fall Grasp Both Divide Pattern
shuai luo liang fen shi
seui tyut leung fan sik
18. Seven Star, Right Fill In Strike
qi xing you bu chui
chat sing yau bou cheui
19. Ascend Mountain, Right Lower Drag
deng shan you di qian
dang saan yau dai hin
20. Raise Step, Seal Gathering Strike
ti bu feng tong chui
tai bouh fung tong cheui
21. Ascend Mountain, Right Folding Elbow
deng shan you die zhou
dang saan yau dip jau
22. Ascend Mountain, Right Crushing Strike
deng shan you beng chui
dang saan yau bung cheui
23. Take A Fall, Lower Catch Cicada
tun ta di bu chan
tan taap dai bou sim
24. Thrust at Face Crush, Evading Leg
ying mian beng duo tui
ying min bung do teui
25. Ascend Mountain, Downward File Palm
deng shan xia cuo zhang
dang saan ha chou jeung
26. Ascend Mountain, Upward File Palm
deng shan shang cuo zhang
dang saan sheung chou jeung
27. Ascend Mountain, Water Wheel Method
deng shan fan che shi
dang saan fan che sik
28. Trace Step, Right Fill In Strike
zong bu you bu chui
jung bouh yau bou cheui
29. Double Wicked Hands, Take Eyes
shuang diao shou qu yan
seung diu sau cheui ngaan
30. Following Hand, Penetrating Shuttle Pattern
gen shou chuan suo shi
gan sao chyun so sik
31. Double Wicked Hands, Take Eyes
shuang diao shou qu yan
seung diu sao cheui ngaan
32. Following Hand, Penetrating Shuttle Pattern
gen shou chuan suo shi
gan sao chyun so sik
33. Seven Star, Right Wrapping Silk
qi xing you chan si
chat sing yau chin sz
34. Hang Wicked, Right Take Eyes
gua diao you qu yan
kwa diu yau cheui ngaan
35. Ten Character, Right Evading Leg
shi zi you duo tui
sap ji yau do teui
36. Seven Star, Right Fill In Strike
qi xing you bu chui
chat sing yau bou cheui
37. Straddle Tiger, Right Raise Palms
kua hu you tiao zhang
kwa fu yau tiu jeung

Caption #17 is a very rough translation. Perhaps someone else has a better translation. The technique is an arm lock that attacks the elbow.
Captions #30 & 32 have the phrase gen shou (M)/gan sao (C). It is a strike with the back of the mantis hook hand. How does your school translate this? Gen/Gan according to my dictionaries can mean, "follow" or "heel of foot".

mooyingmantis
06-04-2006, 08:06 AM
Is anyone interested in the Macau version of this form?

holymantis
06-05-2006, 04:08 AM
Hi Richard,
yes why not ! i would love to see the diffrences .

cheers roy:D

mooyingmantis
06-12-2006, 01:12 PM
Here is the Macau version as taught by Mike Biggie:

Black Tiger Intersectional Fist - Macau

01. Middle Level Twins Store Up Power
02. Seven Star, Left Wicked Palm
03. Seven Star, Double Wicked Hands
04. Seven Star, Right Wind Silk
05. Ascend Mountain, Hang Gathering Strike
06. Kick Leg, Penetrating Palm
07. Seven Star, Right Fill In Strike
08. Ascend Mountain, Lower Lower Drag
09. Raise Leg, Seal Gathering Strike
10. Take Fall, Returning Folding Elbow
11. Ascend Mountain, Right Crushing Strike
12. Take Fall, Lower Catch Cicada
13. Ascend Mountain, Right Crushing Strike
14. Running Step, Lower Catch Cicada
15. Ascend Mountain, Right Crushing Strike
16. Plunge Leg, Double Seal Hands
17. Double Seal Hands, Plunge Leg
18. Seven Star, Right Fill In Strike
19. Ascend Mountain, Right Lower Drag
20. Raise Leg, Seal Gathering Strike
21. Ascend Mountain, Right Fold Elbow
22. Ascend Mountain, Right Crushing Strike
23. Take Fall, Lower Catch Cicada
24. Thrust at Face Crush, Evading Leg
25. Horse Pattern, Double Seal Hands
26. Ascend Mountain, Downward Filing Palm
27. Ascend Mountain, Water Wheel Pattern
28. Ascend Mountain, Ten Character Strike
29. Horse Pattern, Right Circle Strike
30. Double Wicked Hands, Take Eyes
32. Following Hand, Thread Shuttle Pattern
33. Double Wicked Hands, Take Eyes
34. Following, Thread Shuttle Pattern
36. Seven Star, Right Wrap Silk
37. Seven Star, Hang, Take Eyes
38. Kick Leg, Left Penetrating Palm
39. Seven Star, Right Fill In Strike
40. Straddle Tiger, Carry Gathering Strike

A video of Biggie Laoshi doing the form can be found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl9ejOZH6vw and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z6nn8M9qi4

bungbukuen
06-12-2006, 08:05 PM
Just curious - what teacher/s came out of Macau (or resided there) that taught this? Overall I think it would make things much clearer to just refer to the family lineage line rather than refering to a country, or SAR, or something like that. Saying Macau TL, or HK TL, or China TL, or European TL, or American TL or Canadian TL just confuses me. :)

Thanks and cheers,
BBK

mooyingmantis
06-13-2006, 05:57 PM
Just curious - what teacher/s came out of Macau (or resided there) that taught this? Overall I think it would make things much clearer to just refer to the family lineage line rather than refering to a country, or SAR, or something like that. Saying Macau TL, or HK TL, or China TL, or European TL, or American TL or Canadian TL just confuses me. :)

Thanks and cheers,
BBK

BBK,
I will have to check with Mike on who taught the form this way in Macau. However, I do know that Won Hon Fun took NPM to Macau in 1932 under the direction of Lo Guang Yu.

bungbukuen
06-13-2006, 10:28 PM
Thanks. Who under WHF eventually passed this on from Macau? Thanks again!

mooyingmantis
06-14-2006, 08:19 PM
Thanks. Who under WHF eventually passed this on from Macau? Thanks again!

I am taking a private session with Mike tomorrow to get some more indepth training in this form. So, I will try to get answers to your questions at that time.

Richard A. Tolson

mooyingmantis
06-15-2006, 10:47 AM
Bungbukuen,
Thank you for your patience!
After learning the final drills and applications today, Mike and I discussed the origins and transmission of this version of the form. He said this form came down to us through the Chu Chun Yee (sp?) line.
Regards,
Richard A. Tolson