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dwid

06-30-2006, 08:54 AM

Just got through watching the second movie in the trilogy, Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance. It was also quite good, but not as good IMHO as Oldboy. It was certainly less of an "eye rape." The pacing was kind of similar, with most of the really crazy stuff happening in the last half. The story is also quite twisted, just not as twisted as Oldboy.

Thematically, I can see how they relate. Apparently, revenge is messy and maybe futile.

Some really intense action, with a couple of moments that are borderline sickening.

I can't wait to see the third installment.:D

Ooops, I just checked and now realize I got the release dates mixed up, as Oldboy was second and Sympathy was first. That makes more sense, as I had felt after watching that Oldboy was, to me, evidence of more refined directing. There's some interesting ways some of the scenes are shot in Sympathy, but in Oldboy, the way many of the scenes were shot seemed to better capture a feeling, if that makes any sense.

Su Lin

07-07-2006, 05:52 PM

Going back to Audition again, the noises that woman made near the end, whilst doing what she was doing to the man (really trying to be vague so that people who haven;t seen it don't find out the end!) , it was horrific! I tried covering my eyes, then my ears, then had to leave the room, but could STILL hear the noises. And I still hear those noises...
Great film, but the noises, the noises......:eek:
Oldboy, also made me feel quite sick, but was great. Not seen Lady Vengeance yet, but hoping to see it soon.

jethro

07-07-2006, 09:22 PM

Please answer a question(sorry im drunk)

What is scarier, audition or oldboy and does audition have fight scenes.

jethro

07-07-2006, 09:33 PM

Please answer a question(sorry im drunk)

What is scarier, audition or oldboy and does audition have fight scenes.

I have to admit, I am pretty scared to ever watch an "asian extreme " movie again.

Su Lin

07-08-2006, 02:18 AM

Mmmm, I think Audition is maybe more psychologically scary, although Oldboy manages that too. Audition doesn't have any fight scenes , but is very chilling IMO .
THe scene where Oldboy is picking everyone off near the lift is awesome:eek:

jethro

07-08-2006, 02:31 AM

I loved the story and choreography in Oldboy. The movie was stunning. but it just got a little too odd at the end for me.:eek:

And wtf was going on with that guy at the end who is just throwing him around? If that was a real person, as it actually looked like, a stuntman was probably killed.

Su Lin

07-08-2006, 03:22 PM

It was great!Really bizarre story, that I kind of guessed might happen when watching, ut was really hoping it wasnt going to happen! Has anyone seen the sequel to Ong Bak? Saw it the other week, it was really quite impressive, but not entirely sure what I thought:confused:

jethro

07-08-2006, 03:26 PM

is that the "tom yum goong????" movie. It looks inceredibly stupid and good, is it the one where he takes down everyone and then he fights that FUHKING SWEET capoira stylist?

Su Lin

07-08-2006, 03:32 PM

yep ,thats the one. It has a lot to do with elephants! There is a capoeira guy he fights who is quite impressive.Basically it's kind of one long fight with the odd bit of dialogue thrown in! Think its the kind of film that will look fantastic on the big screen.

jethro

07-08-2006, 03:36 PM

hope that it comes here!

Su Lin

07-08-2006, 03:39 PM

It'll probably be out on dvd before too long! Not sure if there are any trailers online yet?

GeneChing

07-10-2006, 10:27 AM

We discussed Tom Yum Goong on a thread here a long time ago.... (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39718)

Funny you should mention that on this thread. I was thinking that Old Boy and Tom Yum Goong were both recent films that had long, one-shot fight scenes. The hallway fight in Old Boy and the going-up-the-staircase fight in Tom Yum Goong were both brilliantly choreographed. The longer the shot, the more respect I have for the choreographer. It's really hard to sustain a long fight like that.

Su Lin

07-10-2006, 10:45 AM

Good point! Both scenes are awesome in terms of choreography how hard must it be to keep the shot giong and to continue fighting like that! :D

jethro

07-11-2006, 12:53 PM

Of the top of my head, for good non cut extended fight scenes, you should check out "Ninja in the Dragon's Den" . Sanada and Conan Lee have 2 spectacular 1 on 1 battles. The first is unique, the second is breathtaking.

Is Sanada a monkey turned human? I think he is and they gave him the facial features from that kid in Seven Samurai.

Su Lin

07-11-2006, 01:07 PM

Ah ha! Had forgotten about that one- on the side of the building. That was a great film too!

jethro

07-11-2006, 04:47 PM

Ah ha! Had forgotten about that one- on the side of the building. That was a great film too!
i Love You

Su Lin

07-12-2006, 10:07 AM

aaaw, thank you! It's nice to see some love being spread on these forums! :p

jethro

02-06-2007, 11:59 PM

Not the best fight scene but definitely the inspiration. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm2ImZNX4Rg

Li Kao

02-07-2007, 04:22 AM

Hmm I'm not seeing the connection except for the fact that it is 1 vs. many. The fight scene from Old Boy (Hammer Time!) is much better if you ask me, especially cinematographicaly (is that a word? :D ).

The differences that I see: well, part of the cool thing about the Oldboy scene was that it took place in a corridor -- and he basically worked his way down it, where in this clip, it is outdoors and the hero is attacked from 360 degrees. Also, in the clip you linked, the hero is obviously skilled in kicking and used the typical martial arts movie fighting techniques, whereas in Oldboy, he went nuts with a hammer and then his fists, and it was more of a brawl type fight that showed his toughness and scrapiness rather than martial technique.

My favorite parts of the Oldboy scene: the fact that he spends half of the fight with a knife stuck in his back, and the scene at the end where the elevator opens, a batch of new guys peer out and see Oldboy and the wake of his carnage. They look dumbstruck, and it cuts to a closeup of Oldboy first looking dazed, and then a maniacal grin appears on his face. Finally, you see the elevator opening, and several limp bodies come spilling out, along with Oldboy himself -- very cool piece of filmmaking.

Li Kao

02-07-2007, 04:35 AM

To take this topic a little bit further, I've always loved the 1 vs. many fight scenes -- obviously in many old Shaw Brothers you would see the heroes fighting off throngs of Manchu soldiers. All of the martial arts stars each had a big scene like this at some point as well, such as:

Bruce Lee taking on the Japanese school in Chinese Connection

Jet Li's version of that scene in Fist of Legend

Jackie Chan vs. the Axe Gang in Drunken Master

Stephen Chow at the end of Kung Fu Hustle (very comical)

Neo vs. a plethora of Mr. Smiths in the 2nd Matrix movie (too much CGI)

I think Tony Jaa has upped the ante and topped them all with the joint breaking scene in The Protector -- that scene still makes me wince -- and the sound effects were particularly wicked and just added to the brutality, much like the sounds of the baseball bats did in the scene in Casino where Joe Pesci and his brother got whacked.

What's your favorite 1 vs. many scene?

5Animals1Path

02-07-2007, 10:13 AM

What's your favorite 1 vs. many scene?

Jet versus the cops in Kiss of the Dragon. Not so much for the fight itself, but for the way he walks in, looks at all of them, and then just accepts the fact that he's gotta fight 'em.

mickey

02-07-2007, 07:07 PM

Greetings,

I never saw that clip before. What I liked about it was that the actor knows how to throw a spinning hook kick. That kick has been taught incorrectly in this country for over 25 years.

I have never seen Old Boy. Sounds very interesting.

mickey

Shaolinlueb

02-07-2007, 07:54 PM

the guy is an excellent kicker. my god. but the fight scene sucked compared to this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl1JrRY3Oow the old boy fight scene. ;)

watch out it has some graphic... er teeth getting ripped out and violence. you will like it mickey.

adam

jethro

02-07-2007, 09:51 PM

Yeah, it is not even close to the same but there a some similarities. The thing is that I just "felt" it may have been the inspiration. Sometimes you have to go with you gut feeling:D

It is not a great scene but on the other hand it was great for that kind of a low budget campiness. And that guy is one hell of a kicker.

jethro

02-07-2007, 10:01 PM

As for '1 vs. many' fights, there are too many to name for me. Kuan Tai at the end of Killer Constable, Leung kar yan in The victim, Thundering Mantis, and Shanghai 13, Jimmy Lee in Rebellious Reign, Gordon Liu in Return to the 36th Chamber, and of course Tony Jaa.

GeneChing

02-08-2007, 01:33 PM

Shaolinlueb

02-08-2007, 08:51 PM

I didn't make it through jethro's clip. Been there, done that. And I've seen Old Boy. But good ol' Youtube, surf around and I ended up here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlqrMuMzhuc&mode=related&search=). Man, if my splits were that tight, I'd get a chorus line of women in red silks (http://www.martialartsmart.net/1118.html)behind me too.

****. a karate girl in a kung fu outfit with chinese like people around her. if that isnt a slap in the face i dont know what is. but yes she is crazy flexible. its nice

mickey

02-10-2007, 04:09 PM

Shaolinlueb,

Who told you that I would absolutely enjoy stuff like that? :)

mickey

Jimbo

02-11-2007, 08:17 PM

My favorite one vs. many fights:

Billy Chong fighting the 'Japanese' swordsmen in Sun Dragon.

Gordon Liu storming the Taoist temple the 1st time in Fist of the White Lotus.

Jackie Chan at the finale of Dragons Forever.

Sammo Hung making his attackers spit rice near the end of Pedicab Driver.

Moon Lee using her nunchaku at the opening scene of Iron Angels.

Tony Jaa's bone-breaking scene in Tom Yum Goong.

Liang Jia-Ren in The Victim.

Bruce Lee in Chinese Connection.

Lau Kar-Leung in a short few-on-one fight before the finale of New Kids in Town.

Jet Li at the end of My Father is a Hero (forget the yo-yo sequence and it's still a good scene).

IronWeasel

11-08-2007, 04:09 PM

Where the guy fights everyone in that narrow hallway, with the elevator at the end?

There's that torture scene with the hammer and the teeth?

I hope that's not too obscure, but I'm rackin' my brain...

Thanks in advance

banditshaw

11-08-2007, 04:29 PM

Oldboy.

great film.

IronWeasel

11-08-2007, 08:01 PM

Oldboy.

great film.

THANK you!!!!!

It was on the tip of my brain all day!

doug maverick

11-08-2007, 08:13 PM

justin lin is slated remake this movie, although its been taken off his imdb, so he may not be.

GeneChing

11-12-2008, 10:20 AM

I found this on some peripheral research on Smith's Karate Kid remake (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48261).

Spielberg, Smith in talks for 'Oldboy' (http://www.variety.com/VR1117995429.html)
Pair may kidnap remake of Korean drama
By MICHAEL FLEMING

Steven Spielberg and Will Smith are in early discussions to collaborate on a remake of Chan Wook-park's "Oldboy." DreamWorks is in the process of securing the remake rights, and the new pic will be distributed by Universal.

In the 2003 Korean original, a man gets kidnapped and held in a shabby cell for 15 years without explanation. Suddenly, he's released and given money, a cell phone and clothes and is set on a path to discover who destroyed his life so he can take revenge.

Spielberg had been looking for an opportunity to make a film with Smith, who would play the kidnapped man if all the pieces fall into place. Spielberg is looking for a writer to begin the development process.

The film was originally set at U and then found its way to Mandate.

Spielberg is next expected to direct "Tintin."

GeneChing

11-19-2008, 10:56 AM

I don't think he has the chops for that amazing hammer fight scene. Who is going to play the girl? I'd watch it just to see Smith eat octopus...

Will Smith and scribe reunite for Asian remake
By Jay A. Fernandez and Steven Zeitchik Jay A. Fernandez And Steven Zeitchik – Wed Nov 19, 4:52 am ET

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) – Nothing brings people together like $584 million in worldwide revenue.

In a potential high-profile star-writer reunion, "I Am Legend" co-scribe Mark Protosevich is in early talks to pen the remake of "Old Boy," which "Legend" star Will Smith is developing with director Steven Spielberg.

DreamWorks is in the process of securing the remake rights to the 2003 Korean film about a man's mysterious kidnapping, 15-year imprisonment and feverish quest for revenge upon being released.

A slew of Asian remakes have found their way into American theaters and onto development slates in the past few years. Screenwriter William Monahan won the best adapted screenplay Oscar in 2007 for translating the Hong Kong thriller "Infernal Affairs" into the best picture winner "The Departed."

Protosevich also has written "Poseidon" and "The Cell," and he worked on "Thor" for Marvel Studios.

doug maverick

11-19-2008, 11:03 AM

we're usually eye to eye on these things. but i think will smith will do an amazing job on this film, i mean after seeing films like persuit of happiness, ali, and his most recent 7 pounds(at a private screening) i would say not only does he have the chops for this but i predict that he will get the oscar he has been chasing after. i mean steven speilberg directing smith starring, you know its gonna be a mega block buster, but i think the film is gonna also be critically aclaimed. this film has the greatest twist i've seen in any film that has come out in the last 50 years hands down, and the vast majority has not seen it and will be shocked as **** when they do. can't wait, i love remakes when the greats direct them. like marty when he did the departed that **** i loved, still one of my favorite films.

GeneChing

11-25-2008, 01:19 PM

...anyone here know the comic? I only know the film.

Will Smith Says Oldboy Won’t be Adaptation of Chan-wook Park’s Film (http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/exclusive-will-smith-talks-oldboy.php)

Posted by Brian C. Gibson (brian@filmschoolrejects.com) on November 21, 2008

I just came home from a red carpet premier of Will Smith’s film Seven Pounds. The star is on a tour of premiers promoting the film which is starting to create some major Oscar buzz for the already twice-nominated superstar. I’ll have a full red carpet report later, but first, I was able to stop Smith for a few questions, and a couple laughs. One of the hottest topics for me is Smith’s involvement in Steven Spielberg’s acquisition of the rights for Oldboy, and the actor didn’t disappoint on the news front.

We reported on this news almost two weeks ago, but there is a big development from what the star was able to tell me. Fans have already made themselves heard about their distaste for Oldboy being remade and Smith being the man rumored to take the lead. Well, we heard it straight from the star’s mouth that he is definitely starring in Steven Spielberg’s Oldboy…with a twist. Smith wanted to make a very strong point that this is not an adaptation of Chan-wook Park’s 2003 film. So what is it an adaptation of?

We’re looking at that right now. Not the film though, it’s the original source material. There’s the original comics of ‘Oldboy’ that they made the first film from. And that’s what we’re working from, not an adaptation of the film…,” said Smith.

Apparently Spielberg wasn’t acquiring the rights to the film Oldboy, he was acquiring the rights to the original source material of the graphic novel ‘Oldboy.’ I guess the next question would be - what does this mean? This means that fans can rest a bit easier knowing that no one is trying to make a better Oldboy for an American audience. This means that Spielberg is free to truly adapt the source material and not try and copycat the brilliance of Park’s masterpiece. This also means that it will likely be an entirely different film, however, but the graphic novel is still very close to Park’s movie. So stay tuned as more details come in.

banditshaw

11-25-2008, 10:31 PM

this film has the greatest twist i've seen in any film that has come out in the last 50 years hands down, and the vast majority has not seen it and will be shocked as **** when they do. can't wait, i love remakes when the greats direct them. like marty when he did the departed that **** i loved, still one of my favorite films.

Who says they won't change that twist....I think they will to be honest. If they don't great.
I personally think this film doesn't need to be remade.

doug maverick

11-26-2008, 12:36 AM

they wont cause thats what makes the movie thats what the whole thing is about.

banditshaw

11-26-2008, 01:06 AM

I hope so Doug. I guess we will wait and see.

doug maverick

11-26-2008, 02:26 AM

in all honesty without that twist there is no movie really. that twist ****ing made the movie what it was. it blew you away and turned you inside out and put you back togather again. and then blew you away one more time when he got himself hypnotyzed to stay with her. it was bananna's cause then u gotta think did she open the box? and if she did , then she would be sick now wouldnt she. also (SPOILER ALERT IF YOU DONT WANT TO KNOW STOP READING THIS NOW) it makes you even more warped when you realize he took his own daughters virginity.

banditshaw

11-26-2008, 11:44 AM

Dude, I know. It gave me the willies during the film, days after and now once again after you mentioning it.

I love the film because it takes you through so many ups and downs and curves. It's a total mindphuck of a film.

Jimbo

12-01-2008, 12:41 PM

When I first saw this movie years ago, I thought the twist at the end was really ballsy and unexpected, but it didn't freak me out. However, Oldboy is a real masterpiece in execution. I suppose the only thing to do is wait and see, but I can't imagine a remake being as good. In fact, I would be shocked if Will Smith played a character who suffers the plot twist that Oh Dae-Su did at the end. This would seem to be almost off-limits in a major American movie, esp. one starring Will Smith. I can imagine the plot twist being softened or changed entirely in an American remake.

GeneChing

12-12-2008, 11:11 AM

I just realized that Old Boy is the only Park Chan-wook flick I've seen. Can anyone recommend any of his other works?

Quentin Tarantino urged PARK Chan-wook to try Hollywood (http://www.koreanfilm.or.kr/KOFIC/Channel?task=kofic.user.eng.b_filmnews.command.New sView1Cmd&searchPage=1&Gesipan_SCD=1&Gesimul_SNO=1153)

According to major U.S. agency William Morris, PARK Chan-wook was advised by Quentin Tarantino to come to Hollywood to direct films. William Morris representatives also disclosed that they are in the process of finding a project which can interest PARK.

PARK’s definite international breakthrough was his critically acclaimed Old Boy, which was awarded the Grand Prix at the 2004 Festival de Cannes by a jury headed by Quentin Tarantino.

William Morris agency was present at the 2008 Korea-U.S. business campus held by Korean Film Council. William Morris agency is a leading U.S. agency who manages major stars in cinema, music, and sports.

doug maverick

12-12-2008, 11:59 AM

oldboy is part of chan woo parks vengeance "trilogy", its not a trilogy in a way that lord of the rings is a trilogy, but a trilogy in the way that all three films have revenge as its underlying theme sorta like , mean streets, goodfellas, and casino are considered scoresesse's Mob "trilogy", the other two films are sympathy for mr. vengeance and sympathy for lady vengeance, both good films in their own right. check 'em out.

GeneChing

12-12-2008, 03:11 PM

...which do you like better, Mr. or Lady? Most of my friends say Lady.

doug maverick

12-12-2008, 04:46 PM

im torn between the two but i've watched lady a few more times then mr. so maybe i gotta go with that one.but both are worth watching.

GeneChing

11-11-2009, 10:18 AM

Thank goodness.

Exclusive: Will Smith & Steven Spielberg’s Old Boy DEAD! (http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-will-smith-steven-spielberg-s-old-boy-dead-8502)
By Kellvin Chavez on November 09, 2009

Late Breaking News…

This just in…

You know that OLDBOY remake…well it wasn’t really a remake, anyway (which is a terrible idea by the way) Steven Spielberg and Will Smith were suppose to do a film that was based on the Japanese manga by Nobuaki Minegishi and Garon Tsuchiya and NOT FROM THE ORIGINAL FILM.

At the time DreamWorks was in the process of securing the rights along with MANDATE, until NOW.

According to a trusted source…

…It’s DEAD!

Mandate and DreamWorks didn’t see eye to eye therefore DreamWorks has apparently walked away.

No Spielberg.

No Will Smith.

THEY’RE OUT!

Hence no stateside Oldboy remake…or whatever you want to call it.

Stay tuned as more develops.

You guys should be hearing something in the trades soon.

doug maverick

11-11-2009, 11:26 AM

ohew that was a close one...didnt want to see a crappy watered down oldboy...dont get me wrong speilberg is a master but he wouldnt want to explore incest in a "blockbuster".

Jimbo

11-11-2009, 11:35 AM

That is outstanding news. Sure, if they made a remake I could simply opt to not see it, but IMO it would have been a slap in the face to the original. Spielberg may be great; Smith may be great; but there are just some things they aren't up to doing and would be best to leave alone. Oldboy is one of those things.

As far as the other two movies in Park's 'Vengeance Trilogy', between Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance and Lady Vengeance, I actually preferred Mr. Vengeance. They're both good, dark films, but I liked its pacing a bit better. Though I felt neither one of them holds a candle to Oldboy.

KTS

11-15-2009, 12:53 AM

absolutely crazy movie. but i like those. as u can tell im a takashi miike fan.

i am really sick of watered down hollywood remakes of good films. i'm sure many of you guys are too if you watch films by miike or chan-wook park.

that new ninja flick has my interest a bit though.

KTS

11-15-2009, 12:57 AM

and not to get off-topic, but, anybody every caught Survive Style 5+ ?

if not, i wholly reccommend it to anyone. it is one of the few movies that i basically Need to buy but haven't yet.

its a definite masterpeice. a few really nice action scenes as well. overall, a movie that u wouldnt forget after a month.

GeneChing

07-14-2011, 09:19 AM

Old Boy's gotta have it

Posted: Mon., Jul. 11, 2011, 11:36am PT
Spike Lee lines up 'Oldboy' (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118039698)
Lee comes out of hiatus to helm Mandate Pictures' remake of South Korean thriller
By Justin Kroll

Chan-wook Park's "Oldboy" took the Grand Jury Prize at Cannes in 2004.
After a three-year hiatus, Spike Lee has found his next feature directing project, committing to helm Mandate Pictures' remake of Chan-wook Park thriller "Oldboy."

The original pic revolves around a man who's kidnapped and imprisoned for 15 years. When finally released, he begins looking into the reason for his captivity and soon finds out that his kidnapper has even more torturous plans for him.

The original film, released in South Korea in 2003 and in the U.S. in 2005, won the Grand Jury Prize at the 2004 Cannes Film Festival.

Mark Protosevich has adapted the script; Roy Lee and Doug Davison are producing through Vertigo Entertainment and 40 Acres & A Mule Prods. Mandate prexy Nathan Kahane will exec produce.

Asian movie blog Twitchfilm.com was first to report that Lee was in early talks, but no offer had been made at the time and Mandate was still considering a handful of a directors -- including Mark Romanek.

An "Oldboy" remake has been a high priority at Mandate for some time, with Steven Spielberg at one point eyeing it to direct and Will Smith circling to star. When Spielberg and Smith moved on, the project went under the radar as Mandate began searching for new candidates.

Lee, repped by CAA, has not directed a feature since Touchstone's "Miracle at St. Anna" in 2008. Lee has also signed on to direct and exec produce a drama pilot for HBO, "Da Brick," loosely based on the life of Mike Tyson.

doug maverick

07-14-2011, 04:32 PM

spike is a master filmmaker...i just hope he doesnt make it a black white racial thing, he seems to have done that with every film except inside man. which he cant get a studio to back to sequel so he needs a film like this.

GeneChing

05-29-2012, 10:05 AM

I've been trying to imagine OB with a racial twist, Doug. :confused:

Thieves and Oldboy remake sell at Cannes (http://www.filmbiz.asia/news/thieves-and-oldboy-remake-sell-at-cannes)
By Patrick Frater
Wed, 23 May 2012, 02:04 AM (HKT)
Sales News
http://www.filmbiz.asia/media/BAhbB1sHOgZmSSIuMjAxMi8wNS8yMi8xMS8xNy80OC83MjMvdG hlX3RoaWV2ZXNfcy5qcGcGOgZFVFsIOgZwOgp0aHVtYkkiDTUw MHgxMDAwBjsGVA?suffix=.jpg&sha=5d6389a1
The Thieves 도둑들 (pictured) proved a steal for a number of international distributors, which acquired the big-budget heist movie from South Korea's Showbox/Mediaplex Inc 쇼박스 미디어플렉스.

The film was licensed to China's Lava Films 火山石影視文化有限責任公司, Hong Kong's Edko Films Ltd 安樂影片有限公司 and Thailand's LH Moviefusion. Lava previously marketed South Korean comedy Scandal Makers 과속스캔들 (2008) in China.

Showbox also sold recent hit Nameless Gangsters: Rules of the Time 범죄와의 전쟁 : 나쁜놈들 전성시대 to Japan's KRCG, China's BINCI Media, Hong Kong's i-Cable Communications Ltd 有線寬頻通訊有限公司, French-speaking Europe to Metropolitan Filmexport, Spain's Mediatres Estudio and the former-Soviet Union and the Baltics to Russia's Maywin Films AB.

In addition, Showbox sold A Company Man 회사원 to Japan's Pony Canyon Inc ポニーキャニオン, Indonesia's Ram Indo, Thailand's STG Multimedia, Splendid Film for German-speaking Europe and to Synergy Cinema for French-speaking Europe. The Scent 간기남 was sold to Thailand's LH Moviefusion, Hong Kong's Edko Films and Singapore's Shaw Organisation.

New US-based sales firm Good Universe sold strongly on Oldboy, the Spike LEE-directed remake of the South Korean thriller originally directed by PARK Chan-wook 박찬욱. Universal Pictures International Entertainment bought the now-in production film to the UK, Germany, France, Italy, Austria, Switzerland, Australia and Spain. The remake stars Josh Brolin, Elizabeth Olsen and Sharlto Copley. Spike Lee is producer alongside Roy LEE and Doug DAVISON. Good Universe's Nathan KAHANE is an executive producer.

French sales agency, Wild Bunch licensed Cannes competition film Holy Motors (directed by Leos Carax) to Japan's Eurospace ユーロスペース. And Comstock Group コムストック・グループ and Broadmedia Studios Corporation ブロードメディア・スタジオ株式会社 co-acquired Marina de Van's psychological thriller Dark Touch for Japan.

doug maverick

05-29-2012, 03:29 PM

**** they sold the film, with just a few frames, must be good..lol...chan woo park, gave this film his blessing after reading the script and because spike lee was directing...so im leaning more and more into watching this...according to josh brolin, they made some changes to the original which is good to me...a frame for frame remake of anything is pretty stupid. i think if you remake a film, you should find its weakness and try to strengthen it...dont know if thats exactly what happened but we will see.

as for racial twist...totally can happen...just changed the whole (SPOILER ALERT) sleeping with his sister thing,...instead of getting caught with his sister, the villain could have been the son of a racist senator and got caught sleeping with a black women...something to that effect lol....that would suck but anything can happen.

but im like the cast... josh brolin, Elizabeth olsen, Sharlto copley.. not bad...not bad at all.

GeneChing

08-09-2012, 09:25 AM

Some one here should audition. :)

8.03.2012
oldboy remake casting call (http://blog.angryasianman.com/2012/08/oldboy-remake-casting-call.html)

After years and years of rumors, starts and stops, and everyone from Justin Lin to Steven Spielberg at various points attached to direct a remake of the South Korean revenge thriller Oldboy, it looks like this thing is really happening.

So you've heard Spike Lee is directing, and Josh Brolin is starring. Now they're filling in the rest of the roles. Take a look at this casting call that came my way. It has a full list of character names and descriptions, which gives you an idea of what this remake might look like...

OLDBOY

Feature Film

SAG-AFTRA

Director: Spike Lee
Exec. Producer: Spike Lee
Producers: Nathan Kahane, Doug Davison, Roy Lee, John Powers Middleton
Co-Producer/Writer: Mark Protosevich
Screen Play: Jo-Yun, Chun-hyung Lim, Chan-wook Park
Casting Director: Kim Coleman
Casting Associate: Jackie Sollitto
Casting Assistant: Keisha Richardson
Callbacks: Aug. 12, 2012 (Sunday)
Shooting / Start: October 1, 2012
Location: New Orleans

SUBMIT ELECTRONICALLY

[WALLACE SHARKEY] Male, 60ish, Caucasian. Joe's well-tailored, slickster boss.

[DONNA HAWTHORNE] Female, Mid 20s, Caucasian. Joe's ex-wife and mother of Mia. Once a homecoming queen, now a stripped down hardworking single mom.

[DAVE BERMAN] Mid 40s to 50s. African-American. Shlubby, but very welthy businessman. Joe hits on his much younger girlfriend.

[ASIAN WOMAN] Female, Early to mid 20s, Asian. A mysterious exotic beauty sitting at the bar observing Joe. MARTIAL ARTS EXPERIENCE A PLUS

[CHUCKY] Male, Mid 40s, Caucasian. A free spirited likeable human teddy bear who sports loud vintage Hawaiian shirts. Joe’s best friend.

[BROWNING] Male. Caucasian. Small in stature. A career criminal with pockmarked skin.

[CORTEZ] Latin male. 50s. A bullishly strong street thug/criminal.

[JAKE PRESTON] Male, Mid 30s to mid 40s, Caucasian. A clean cut tough looking former cop; the no-nonsense host of the TV show "Unsolved Crimes."

[ADULT MIA] Female, Early 20s, Caucasian. A musical prodigy on cello. Sensitive, intelligent, beautiful but humble. CELLO EXPERIENCE A PLUS.

[GRACE] Female, 50s, African American. A drug addicted nutcase in the Mobile Hospital.

[JOHNNY] Male, Mid 40s to 50s, Caucasian. A disheveled, schizophrenic man who is on the street near the Mobile Hospital unit.

[A BURLY MAN] Male, 40s, Caucasian. Muscular and serious with close-cropped hair.

[THE CHECKPOINT] Male, 40s, Open Ethnicity. A serious looking sort (probably trying to hold down two or three jobs to support his family) who is sitting at a desk in the underground parking garage.

[EDWINA BURKE] Female, Late 50s to early 60s, Caucasian, distinguished-looking. She is from Evergreen Academy where Joe attended school. She is tough, smart, and very much a lady, but a lonely one.

[SECURITY GUARD] Male, 40s to 50s, Caucasian. The guard at Evergreen Academy that patrols the grounds and takes his job a bit more seriously than he needs to.

[AMANDA PRYCE] Female, 14, Caucasian. Adrian's younger sister. She is pretty, yet shy and a bit awkward-looking.

[YOUNG JOE DOUCETTE] Male, 17, Caucasian. A young Josh Brolin.

Do note that the lone Asian character on this list is simply called "Asian Woman" and is described as "a mysterious exotic beauty" who happens to know martial arts. Yeah, can't wait for that.

I'm not crazy about this remake, but to be honest, I'm not totally against it either. I'm sort of in the middle, and this casting call just makes me say "bleh." Because no matter what happens, Park Chan-wook's original Oldboy is still a crazy insane kickass movie, and nothing changes that. Let them do what they want.

GeneChing

08-21-2012, 09:03 AM

Samuel Jackson, Bruce Hornsby join Spike Lee's 'Old Boy' remake (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-samuel-l-jackson-bruce-hornsby-join-spike-lees-oldboy-remake-20120817,0,3274905.story)
By Steven Zeitchik
August 17, 2012, 10:35 p.m.
Williamsburg, Virginia—

EXCLUSIVE: The English-language remake of Chan-wook Park's cult favorite "Oldboy"already had some big-time names, what with Spike Lee directing and Josh Brolin in the lead role.

Now the revenge drama is getting two more notables: Samuel L. Jackson and Bruce Hornsby.

Jackson has come on board for a small but critical part in the new film, according to a person close to the production who was not authorized to talk about it publicly. The actor will play the man who is being tortured by the hero (Brolin) in a key revenge scene.

Fans of the original will remember the scene as perhaps the most visceral and disturbing of the film. Protagonist Dae-su Oh exacts vengeance on a man who once guarded him by extracting his teeth one-by-one with the claw end of a hammer.

The new film, which begins shooting this fall in Louisiana and New York, won’t go with the tooth removal, instead inflicting a different kind of torture (we won’t spoil it here, but it’s plenty painful).

Jackson and Lee recently appeared together at the BET Awards in this spoof that quickly went viral. The actor of course also recently starred as Nick Fury in ""The Avengers" and will soon be seen in a movie about as anticipated as "Oldboy"--Quentin Tarantino"s"Django Unchained."

In a separate development, Hornsby has joined the new ”Oldboy” as the film's composer. The piano virtuoso has a longstanding relationship with Lee; among other things, he composed the score for Lee’s basketball documentary "Kobe Doin' Work" and the auteur's new"Red Hook Summer,"giving the spiritually themed coming-of-age story a melancholy and wistful spin.

In an interview in his hometown of Williamsburg, Va., this week, Hornsby (more on him and his eclectic career shortly) told The Times that the musical ideas for "Oldboy" are beginning to percolate. "I'm working on a few things and I'll send them to Spike soon," he said. "The 'D' word has been spoken to me by him," the musician added, referring to a dark tone. "But I think the score will also run the gamut."
I remember Hornsby well from when he played with the Dead after Brent died.

GeneChing

10-16-2012, 04:14 PM

James Ransone Replaces Nate Parker in Oldboy (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=95958)
Source: Variety
October 16, 2012

James Ransone is set to replace the formerly attached Nate Parker in the Spike Lee-directed remake of Oldboy, Variety reports. Scheduling conflicts are cited as the reason for the swap.

Ransone, who previously worked with Lee on Inside Man and who just starred in Sinister, would reportedly play a doctor that works with Elizabeth Olsen's character.

Josh Brolin stars as the lead character Joe (Dae-su Oh in the original) who is captured and imprisoned in a hotel room for over two decades (15 years in the original) with no understanding as to why. When he is suddenly released, he's told that he has just four days to determine the reason for his imprisonment.

Sharlto Copley will co-star as the antagonist and Samuel L. Jackson is expected to make a cameo appearance in the film.

The film will be based on the manga series by Garon Tsuchiya and Nobuaki Minegishi. Jackson is only making a cameo? Mutha ****er!

doug maverick

10-17-2012, 04:20 AM

Jackson is only making a cameo? Mutha ****er!

yea jackson will be playing the role of "the warden" if you guys remember from the original thats the guy who got his teeth pulled out with a hammer.

GeneChing

07-08-2013, 02:49 PM

Josh Brolin Emerges From The Official OLDBOY Poster (http://twitchfilm.com/2013/07/josh-brolin-emerges-from-the-official-oldboy-poster.html)
Todd Brown, Founder and Editor

http://twitchfilm.com/assets_c/2013/07/OLDBOY_1sht_online0708-thumb-300xauto-40021.jpg
Spike Lee's spin on Oldboy hits theaters screens October 25th, at which point the dissection of how much the film is a straight remake of Park Chan-wook's violent opus versus how much it calls back to the source manga (as producers have promised it will do) versus how much is totally new (ditto) will begin in earnest. But for now? Now you can cast your eyes on the official theatrical one sheet.

OLDBOY is a provocative, visceral thriller that follows the story of an advertising executive (Josh Brolin) who is abruptly kidnapped and held hostage for 20 years in solitary confinement. When he is inexplicably released, he embarks on an obsessive mission to discover who orchestrated his bizarre and torturous punishment only to find he is still trapped in a web of conspiracy and torment.

Co-starring Elizabeth Olsen and Sharlto Copley, OLDBOY was directed by Spike Lee, from a script by Mark Protosevich (I Am Legend, The Cell, Thor). The film was produced by Roy Lee, Doug Davison and Nathan Kahane.

Rather than going the all-too-common photoshop route with this one FilmDistrict have used a still shot from the film itself with the text in Brolin's actual handwriting.
still very skeptical...

doug maverick

07-10-2013, 01:52 PM

still very skeptical...

soon as i found out this wasnt a hollywood remake my skepticism went away and i had a more wait and see reservement.. but this trailer has shown me that this movie will be bad ass http://screenrant.com/oldboy-trailer-2013-red-band-trailer-remake/

GeneChing

07-10-2013, 06:33 PM

I am looking forward to that hammer fight. That's a big scene to measure up to. ;)

doug maverick

07-10-2013, 07:24 PM

josh brolin has said the octopus eating scene is in there.

David Jamieson

07-11-2013, 09:50 AM

I can't get behind a remake of Oldboy and I don't care who did it.
The original was awesome and still is.

One of THE best multiple attacker fight scenes ever put on camera EVER!!!!

Check it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRBwvIX7Sao

this is just the fight scene and holy crap, what a fight scene!

MightyB

08-02-2013, 11:53 AM

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

MightyB

08-02-2013, 12:00 PM

just watched the original, need to wash my Eyes!!!

Hebrew Hammer

08-02-2013, 01:37 PM

Why? Tears of joy?

enoajnin

09-26-2013, 03:07 PM

You can watch it here: Oldboy (http://movies.yahoo.com/video/oldboy-featurette-205237497.html)

GeneChing

02-27-2014, 01:43 PM

I want this just for the box. :p

Chinese Bootleg DVD Marketing Needs a Little Work (http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/02/26/oldboy_remake_marketing_in_china_a_bad_quote.html)
By Matthew Yglesias

China is well-known for its bootleg copies of Western intellectual property, but it seems that the marketing aspects of the industry still haven't perfected their work:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhaFqmdCQAAG2RF.jpg

In the American context, I would say that's an unnecessarily harsh review. For better or for worse, American audiences are habituated to watching English-language films and are unlikely to check out a Korean movie. The remake is perfectly enjoyable. On the other hand, I'm not sure why a Chinese audience would want to see it rather than the original.

Matthew Yglesias is Slate's business and economics correspondent. He is the author of The Rent Is Too **** High.

Stickgrappler

02-27-2014, 02:46 PM

doug maverick

02-27-2014, 07:16 PM

Did anyone watch Spike Lee's remake?

I cannot bring myself to watch it after having watched the perfect original. Hollywood also remaking The Raid - i mean WTF? Chris Hemsworth is mentioned as possible lead?!!?!?! UGH

i saw spikes version.. its pretty much a staright shot remake with some small changes..the acting was great, and the ending sorry to say was superior to the original..much more darker and realistic.

GeneChing

08-31-2022, 08:48 AM

Neon to Release ‘Oldboy’ in the U.S. for 20th Anniversary (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/oldboy-coming-us-theaters-20th-anniversary-1235207936/)
The distributor has acquired the domestic to the cult classic from South Korean auteur Park Chan-wook.

BY MIA GALUPPO

AUGUST 29, 2022 9:00AM
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Oldboy COURTESY OF NEON

Neon has acquired the U.S. rights to Park Chan-wook’s action classic Oldboy, and is planning a theatrical release of the film in time for its 20th anniversary.

Choi Min-sik, Yoo Ji-tae, and Kang Hye-jung star in the movie, which won the Grand Prix at the 2004 Cannes Film Festival. The film’s logline reads: “After being kidnapped and imprisoned for fifteen years, Oh Dae-Su (Choi Min-sik) is released, only to find that he must find his captor in five days.”

Chan-wook wrote the screenplay alongside Hwang Jo-yun and Lim Joon-hyung. Oldboy is the second installment of Park’s Vengeance Trilogy, sandwiched between Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance and Lady Vengeance. It was also adapted as an American remake from filmmaker Spike Lee and starring Josh Brolin.

Anniversary re-releases have been populating the box office. This summer, E.T. was released back into select theaters for its 40th anniversary, while fellow Steven Spielberg title Jaws is getting a release in September via Universal and Amblin with an IMAX and RealD 3D upgrade.

Neon’s upcoming slate includes this year’s Cannes Palme d’Or winner Triangle of Sadness from Ruben Östlund and Laura Poitras’ All the Beauty and the Bloodshed, which is headed for the upcoming Toronto International Film Festival.

Might be worth it just to see the hammer hallway fight on the big screen. :cool:

GeneChing

04-18-2024, 08:35 AM

Park Chan-Wook Adapting Acclaimed Action Thriller ‘Oldboy’ To English-Language Series With Lionsgate Television (https://deadline.com/2024/04/park-chan-wook-adapting-oldboy-tv-series-lionsgate-television-1235887751/)
By Rosy Cordero
Associate Editor, TV
@SocialRosy

April 17, 2024 10:00am
https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/oldboy.jpg?w=681&h=383&crop=1Park Chan-wook
CJ ENM

Park Chan-wook is developing his acclaimed film Oldboy for the first time as an English-language series in partnership with Lionsgate Television. Park, who directed and co-wrote the original film, is set to produce the series alongside producing partner Syd Lim.

The 2003 feature is an adaptation of the Japanese manga of the same name written by Garon Tsuchiya. It follows Oh Dae-su (Choi Min-sik), a man taken off the streets and imprisoned for 15 years who is one day released and given 5 days to find his captor.

Oldboy is the second title in Park’s Vengeance trilogy, following Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance (2002) and preceding Sympathy for Lady Vengeance (2005). It earned multiple accolades including the Grand Prix at Cannes in 2004, a first for a South Korean film. Spike Lee remade the film in 2013 with Josh Brolin portraying the lead character, Joe Doucett.

“Lionsgate Television shares my creative vision for bringing Oldboy into the world of television,” said Park. “I look forward to working with a studio whose brand stands for bold, original and risk-taking storytelling.”

“Park is one of the most visionary storytellers of our generation, and we’re excited to partner with him in bringing his cinematic masterpiece to the television screen,” shared Scott Herbst, EVP and Head of Scripted Development, Lionsgate Television. “This series adaptation of Oldboy will feature the raw emotional power, iconic fight scenes and visceral style that made the film a classic.”

Executives Courtney Mock and Tara Joshi are overseeing the project for Lionsgate Television, and Bryan Weiser negotiated the deal.

Park is also known for directing The Handmaiden (2016), Decision to Leave (2022)— which earned him the Best Director award at Cannes— Stoker (2013) and Thirst (2009), as well as producing both the film and TV series Snowpiercer. Most recently, he produced and directed The Sympathizer, starring Robert Downey, Jr., currently airing on HBO. Up next, he has the period action thriller feature for Netflix, Uprising, premiering later this year.

He is represented by WME, Industry Entertainment and Hansen, Jacobson, Teller. A series? How does that even work? :confused: