Monkey Kung fu clip

[jmd161]

Hmmmm,


Is this really supposed to be a form or did someone make this up for a karate tournament?


Monkey Kung Fu.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3oekhwrenY&search=monkey%20kung%20fu



:rolleyes:



jeff:)

[SifuAbel]

Oh lord.........................


:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Green Cloud]

This is what happens when you do crack.:eek:

[BigPandaBear]

That poor kid wasted a great deal of his time........

[cjurakpt]

yeah, it took him longer to get the judges to move their chairs than it did for him to do his...ahem...form (tourney tip: never make the judges move...yeesh)

[The Willow Sword]

ok so tell me why this is not a monkey form or not a "true" monkey style of kung fu?

From the MONKEY practitioners here. i mean i liked it actually. it didnt really have much combat applications,in my opinion, but it was fun to watch.

TWS

[Green Cloud]

The form it self is just a bad version of a wushu monkey, if it was done the right way it may have looked good.

I have nothing against choreagraphing a set but he wasn't fluid the money yells were over the top and he did a bad impersonation of a monkey not to mention I couldn't see anything that could be applied in fighting.

[ninthdrunk]

I actually liked the form, too. I've been putting a lot of time into monkey these days, and it's nice to see others' forms. I don't like the apparent lack of combat applications, but I thought his spirit, movement and technique was pretty good. He seemed to move like a monkey more than fight like a monkey.

I'm no expert, but I liked the form. If anyone wants to give specifics on what he did right/wrong, I for one would appreciate it...that way I could try not to make the same mistakes!

[BigPandaBear]

How exactly is there a "right way" to dance around and act like a monkey?

[SifuAbel]

I don't like the apparent lack of combat applications, but I thought his spirit, movement and technique was pretty good. He seemed to move like a monkey more than fight like a monkey.


:rolleyes:

Sorry, but no fighting means no point and no use. There was no "technique" to speak of.


(this just shows how easy it is to impress the uninformed with a little exotic prancing around)

[Green Cloud]

For one thing in the begining of the form notice that he's not even chambering his fist correctly, and the choreagraphy here leaves the viewer bewilderd. he displays some gymnastics witch is a risky thing to do. At competitions if you decide to do gymnastics you better look like curt thomas or you will get a bad score.

[BigPandaBear]

I actually liked the form, too. I've been putting a lot of time into monkey these days, and it's nice to see others' forms. I don't like the apparent lack of combat applications, but I thought his spirit, movement and technique was pretty good. He seemed to move like a monkey more than fight like a monkey.

I'm no expert, but I liked the form. If anyone wants to give specifics on what he did right/wrong, I for one would appreciate it...that way I could try not to make the same mistakes!


I'm pretty sure the part where the kid was knuckledragging around the floor making monkey noises was a big no-no.

[BigPandaBear]

:rolleyes:

Sorry, but no fighting means no point and no use. There was no "technique" to speak of.


(this just shows how easy it is to impress the uninformed with a little exotic prancing around)

Maybe he learned it from this guy;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nLgH-f_ql8&mode=related&search=monkey%20kung%20fu

Oh and here's some more;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkbm-H1w4mE&search=Monkey%20Kung%20Fu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j1cEnnvjAE&search=Monkey%20Kung%20Fu

Either one of those legit?

[ninthdrunk]

So, what's the verdict on the last two above? The SD monkey that I have looks nothing like any of the forms posted in this thread, but looks most like the last one above with "sifu gus." Maybe I'm putting too much thought into what the guys "might" be doing for applications and digging a little too deep, but I see some potential stuff there. Granted a lot of it would be really tricky, and that to me means ineffective and useless. Of course, I'll be the first to admit that, while I might have a decent grasp on SD monkey at this point, I haven't seen much outside of that.

Anyone have more links to stuff that is good monkey? I'd like to see how combat techniques are worked into the monkey system. The SD monkey is chalk full of usefull applications, so I like what I've been getting, but it would be nice to see some other stuff for comparison.

Thanks, y'all.

[BruceSteveRoy]

i know there is a relationship between monkey and mantis but i was wondering if anyone knows off the top of their head which came from which. was mantis developed from monkey?

also i know there is an ape style in northern kungfu i have seen some of the techniques from it and it is really good. i have never really seen traditional monkey style applications and i was wondering if they are similar.

[Kymus]

I believe monkey uses mantis footwork. It's been a while since I've read up on this stuff.

[BigPandaBear]

I believe monkey uses mantis footwork. It's been a while since I've read up on this stuff.

Its the other way around actuallty. Mantis uses monkey footwork.

[David Jamieson]

I got a film that shows a few old men who are doing kungfu, as well as a lot of wushu stuff, but anyway... There's one old guy who does monkey. A few years ago, I found a chinese language book about the form that the old man does in this film.

The set with the person named Gus is the one that most closely resembles what is shown in the book and on that film, though not exactly, it's just closest in flavour.

[Laukarbo]

Heres an old clip from the wong fei hung series..u see a fight between drunkenstyle and monkeyfist...mind u this is from 1969

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-gCj8LrhZo

[BigPandaBear]

Heres an old clip from the wong fei hung series..u see a fight between drunkenstyle and monkeyfist...mind u this is from 1969

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-gCj8LrhZo


That's some really bad choreography.

[Green Cloud]

BSRoy The story I herd was that when preying mantis was developed it borrowed the monkey foot work since it's fast and nimble.

That's why at first glance preing mantis (northern Mantis) resembles monkey style.

As far as the section of the form that I do, that is actualy a southern monkey set I believe I've sen the same form being done by one of Sifu Yim Tai's student since my Sifu CTS knew Hung Fut it could be part of the HF system but don't quote me on that.

Of course all the forms my Sifu taught me had his endelable imprint, so there are some slight variations.

I also learned Dai sing Pek gwa wich doesn't have any monkey screams or any type of acrobatics with the exeption of an areal and some dive rolls.

The teck. in dai sing have a lot of long arm teck hense the name Peck gwa, it's got finger strikes wrist strikes lots of visible elbow strikes and clawing and riping.

As far as Ape style all I have seen is tong bei wich doesn't resemble monkey and Lama wich has lmostly long arms tech. and doesn't resemble monkey style

The version of Dai sing that I learned from CTS does a lot of in close fighting and focuses on grabing joint locking throwing and ground fighting.

In the open karate circute you will see many made up versions of monkey what usualy gives a made up monkey set is monkey screaming lots of gymnastics and no visible fighting tech.

Any one can act like a monkey so that is why you see so mutch of it in open torneys. I hope this info helps peace.

[Laukarbo]

That's some really bad choreography.

like I said this is from 1969...:rolleyes:

[Green Cloud]

What does that have to do with anything:confused:

[GunnedDownAtrocity]

Maybe he learned it from this guy;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nLgH-f_ql8&mode=related&search=monkey%20kung%20fu

Oh and here's some more;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkbm-H1w4mE&search=Monkey%20Kung%20Fu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j1cEnnvjAE&search=Monkey%20Kung%20Fu

Either one of those legit?

the first vid ... monkey stick ... was fun to watch.

[Laukarbo]

What does that have to do with anything:confused:
huh?:confused:

[HearWa]

he did a bad impersonation of a monkey
You mean "un-personation"? :P

[Flying-Monkey]

The teck. in dai sing have a lot of long arm teck hense the name Peck gwa, it's got finger strikes wrist strikes lots of visible elbow strikes and clawing and riping.


What does this mean?

[Shaolinlueb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkbm-H1w4mE&search=Monkey%20Kung%20Fu

sifu stevin chin's monkey is pretty legit and good. he's very good and has done a lot of good stuff in the past. wouldnt expect anyhting less form his students.

[Flying-Monkey]

Ahh Steve Chin. He is a former student of SiGong Chan. They are not on talking terms. Sigong Chan told me that he only taught him Lost monkey and he didn't complete training for it. However, I spoke to Steve Chin about 7 years ago and he claimed that Sigong taught him all of the monkey style. Steve Chin broke some promises to Sigong Chan and they don't talk.

Steve Chin learned another monkey style. I forgot what it was.

[Shaolinlueb]

Ahh Steve Chin. He is a former student of SiGong Chan. They are not on talking terms. Sigong Chan told me that he only taught him Lost monkey and he didn't complete training for it. However, I spoke to Steve Chin about 7 years ago and he claimed that Sigong taught him all of the monkey style. Steve Chin broke some promises to Sigong Chan and they don't talk.

Steve Chin learned another monkey style. I forgot what it was.

he learned monkey from leung lee fu as far as i know, thats all i know. i never heard of your sigong ever mentioned. then again i never heard it form steven chin's mouth himself. just from other source's who knew steven chin and leung lee fu.

[Flying-Monkey]

he learned monkey from leung lee fu as far as i know, thats all i know. i never heard of your sigong ever mentioned. then again i never heard it form steven chin's mouth himself. just from other source's who knew steven chin and leung lee fu.

I talked to him on the telephone about it many times. Plus, it is on his website:

http://www.winglungkungfu.com/miami/sigung.html

He used to have more info and pics on his old page, but now he only mentions it.

[Green Cloud]

What does this mean?

Ahm tech. is short for technique and Peck gwa are punches that are done in the system hence the name peck gwa. you should know what that is.

[Shaolinlueb]

I talked to him on the telephone about it many times. Plus, it is on his website:

http://www.winglungkungfu.com/miami/sigung.html

He used to have more info and pics on his old page, but now he only mentions it.

ok, :D you learn something new everyday! :D

[SifuAbel]

Ahh Steve Chin. He is a former student of SiGong Chan. They are not on talking terms. Sigong Chan told me that he only taught him Lost monkey and he didn't complete training for it. However, I spoke to Steve Chin about 7 years ago and he claimed that Sigong taught him all of the monkey style. Steve Chin broke some promises to Sigong Chan and they don't talk.

Steve Chin learned another monkey style. I forgot what it was.

typical.

Question for the TSPK crowd here, is his form a legit set? He did claim that CSC taught him this.

[Flying-Monkey]

The form on the video wasn't TSPK.

[SifuAbel]

I thought so.

[Flying-Monkey]

There are very few people who know the monkey. Even the high students don't know it all. My Sibak only knows most of it.

http://www.ck-kungfu.com/content/Weapon.htm

[Green Cloud]

Hey flying Monkey I didn't see you on that web site or am I being presumptious by thinking that youre on it.

Do you have any vid clips of real Dai Sing???

[Green Cloud]

There are very few people who know the monkey. Even the high students don't know it all. My Sibak only knows most of it.

http://www.ck-kungfu.com/content/Weapon.htm


If they keep that up the system may become extinct it's already on the the list of styles that are facing this problem.

[Flying-Monkey]

I was on the old main site, but They took the main website down. I posted someone doing real TSPK, before but that link is dead now.

[BigPandaBear]

I little bit OT, but a new character in Virtua Fighter 5 uses Monkey style Kung fu. Should be interesting to watch her move. :)

[Green Cloud]

I was on the old main site, but They took the main website down. I posted someone doing real TSPK, before but that link is dead now.


hey fei haou you should realy have them up date their sight and more video clips, after reading this thread I've come to the conclusion that no one has any Idea about Dai sing PG A few videos would not only show how cool the style is but create more interest in the system.

I'm sure you can get premission from Chan Sifu to post some clips and also maybe update his web site. perhaps maybe have it in English so peole can actualy read it.

greencloud.net

[ChinoXL]

i've been looking for DSPK schools or any info on it for the past 2 years.. what p!sses me off is they're so "secretive" to a point that i don't even believe it exist.. so at the moment.. i'm learning wu-tang which consist of mantis (monkey footwork) and i get to learn some pek kwar sets + baji and many other forms .. if anybody have any info on who can teach "legit" tspk would be greatly appreciated.. by the way i live in ny

[Laukarbo]

heres a clip with monkey fist from the Lau family...the clip starts with Tiger&crane then theres the monkey fist bit...:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lC8F_El8YM

[ninthdrunk]

I really liked that bit of monkey...so I'm sure it's not legit, or useful, right? hehehe.

Oh, there's a really nice old clip on the empty flower site. Sorry, I don't know how to paste in the link correctly. I'll try below, but who knows if it'll work!


http://www.emptyflower.com/video.html


It's the tenth video down. Looks like someone holding a horse stance.

[Green Cloud]

heres a clip with monkey fist from the Lau family...the clip starts with Tiger&crane then theres the monkey fist bit...:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lC8F_El8YM


That style of monkey is desighned for the movies and is considered a family style by the Lau family as far as they are conserned it's the real thing.

[jmd161]

Here's a Tai Shing Pek Kwar monkey set, it doesn't say which one and it's pretty bad quality (the picture)

It's performed by Chow Keung.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4492198396651281069&q=Chung+Yen+Shaolin+Martial+Arts



jeff:)