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Stranger
06-23-2001, 02:12 PM
Is this just a Japanese school of Hsing-i, or has the art been modified upon its arrival in Japan? Thanks in advance.

"Luminous beings are we."

Crimson Phoenix
06-23-2001, 02:38 PM
Actually, it's Kenichi Sawai's conception of Wang Xiang Zhai's Yi Quan...I doubt that he changed a lot of things, since Sawai was known for his admiration of Wang's techniques and concepts...
So I guess Taikiken varies from Xing Yi as much as Yi Quan varies from it...

Phoenix

Stranger
06-23-2001, 02:54 PM
Right back at you with the question, "What is yi-quan?" :confused:

"Luminous beings are we."

count
06-23-2001, 03:35 PM
One of our members/posters posted this (http://forum.kungfuonline.com/1/OpenTopic?q=Y&a=tpc&s=126197291&f=340190991&m=2161938002) in depth thesis on the theory and training of Yiquan. It was posted in 4 or 5 parts and was extreamly lengthy yet well written article. Start with the link and do the leg work to follow through. I think the entire articles can be found at his web site. These were the most worthwhile posts on the kung fu board I have ever seen and were sadly passed up. I suppose people are more interested in the adolescent fantasies of a teenage fu(kwipe like rolls to pay attention to something of real substance. Read the above article and you will see what I mean. When you are finished, e-mail me and let me know what you think.

Count

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wujidude
06-24-2001, 06:38 PM
Now now Count . . . dear Rolls has added so much liveliness to these forums . . . . :p

count
06-24-2001, 08:55 PM
Wujidude, I'm gonna kick your a$$. Your style sux! Quit that dancing and get some real martial arts training!! Stupid stances and flower forms that don't mean anything!!!
:D
Just read the posts on Yichuan. They are highly informative!!!!!!!!!

Count

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wujidude
06-24-2001, 09:12 PM
Hey Count my woman says I have no style . . . sigh. I'm hoping she's talking about my fashion sense and not my martial art . . .

Hey I've read the posts and more on yiquan. It's a really intriguing art. I appreciate its emphasis on zhang zhuan. But you know it's becoming affected by the "martial arts for health" disease too . . . I guess there's a bigger market for that. A lot of people don't realize that, yes, there is movement and two-person practice in yiquan, too.

But yiquan doesn't move me the way bagua does ;- )

count
06-24-2001, 09:20 PM
Sounds like yours and mine would get along too well. ;)

I agree with you 100% I just spent about 2 hours walking the circle trying to focus on more hips and less legs. Whew. My abs feel great. :D Nothing moves like bagua.â€*

Count

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RickMatz
06-24-2001, 09:53 PM
The two best websites about YiQuan are:

www.yiquan.com.pl (http://www.yiquan.com.pl) and
members.surfeu.fi/yiquan/

You'll find those articles at the second site.

Best REgards,

Rick Matz

Discipline is remembering what you want.

wujidude
06-26-2001, 08:51 PM
Count:

I guess building that ground connection through your abs is pretty critical to making circlewalking a gongfu-building exercise, i.e., more than an empty walk. Some guys who train under Yang Guo Tai up in Vancouver, B.C., have an exercise where they lay prone on their backs with legs out and basically wiggle/scoot (I don't know how to describe it better) along. That way, their movement is entirely dependent on the ab/lumbar musculature. It seems to help integrate the neuromuscular connection for maintaining awareness in the dantien and mingmen areas when circlewalking. Their 9 Palaces style uses the large, open and vertical Cheng Tinghua frame when walking the circle.

Stranger
07-08-2001, 06:19 AM
^^^^^^ for thread on main board

"Luminous beings are we."