Finally a teacher...

[charyuop]

After a long time with videos I finally found someone in my town who teaches Tai Chi. It is done purely for health, he teaches breathing through Chi Kong, starts with 8 base forms and he said as advanced goes on to 24. Unfortunately no martial art aspect into it, no push hands or applications...but hey, learning from someone who knows the bases and who can correct my errors is always a good beginning.
In parallel I will not give up studying the Long Form from the videos and maybe in the future I will manage to find someone who is going to teach me the MA aspect of Tai Chi.

[qiphlow]

that's good news! this, as i'm sure you know, is a great place for good info on taiji. as you get more familiar with your forms and the individual movements, you could always ask about applications from the good people here. i'm sure you will get some helpful answers. best of luck!

[Chief Fox]

Congratulations. Having a good teacher makes all the difference. Good luck.

By the way, speaking a videos, Dr. Yang Jwing Ming has a good one on push hands. You will eventually need a partner though.

Here's the link: http://ymaa.stores.yahoo.net/tapuhadvd.html

[chud]

Congratulations on finding a teacher. Just curious, but what videos are you using to study the long form?

[charyuop]

I bought videos of Long Form, applications and other nice things from this site www.gilmanstudio.com
The quality of the stuff is pretty good and Mr.Gilman is very detailed. Moreover if you need help he always answers to email with suggestions and solutions to problems you might find.
Tho it is not like having a real teacher following you close by.

Unfortunately not teaching the MA aspect of Tai Chi he won't teach push hands so I won't have a partner there to practice it with. But when I learn all the basics I might decide to look out of town for a once a week lesson in a school of Tai Chi (the closest is more than 2 hours away from here :( ).

[JohnnyMnemonic]

In parallel I will not give up studying the Long Form from the videos and maybe in the future I will manage to find someone who is going to teach me the MA aspect of Tai Chi.

What if I told you the martial aspects of Tai Chi were a trick to attract violent and aggressive people?

What if I told you that all the different movements of Tai Chi that are described as this block and that attack were to misdirect your attention and to fool you so that you can be taught to become a human being?

What if I told you that focusing on the martial aspects of Tai Chi would likely prevent you from learning what Tai Chi is really about?


Don't get me wrong. Tai Chi can be used for fighting. It does make the body strong.

But what if they were tricking you? Why would they do that? What would be the purpose of the Tai Chi form if tricking you was their purpose? Would you hate them because they were playing games with you and tricking you?

You might want to prepare yourself for all of those questions if you are sincere about learning Tai Chi. If you stick with Tai Chi, I feel your brain will be forced to change in ways you may not be aware of or you may not desire.

You might actually start using it and become more human. ;)

[unkokusai]

What if I told you the martial aspects of Tai Chi were a trick to attract violent and aggressive people?

What if I told you that all the different movements of Tai Chi that are described as this block and that attack were to misdirect your attention and to fool you so that you can be taught to become a human being?

What if I told you that focusing on the martial aspects of Tai Chi would likely prevent you from learning what Tai Chi is really about?


Don't get me wrong. Tai Chi can be used for fighting. It does make the body strong.

But what if they were tricking you? Why would they do that? What would be the purpose of the Tai Chi form if tricking you was their purpose? Would you hate them because they were playing games with you and tricking you?

You might want to prepare yourself for all of those questions if you are sincere about learning Tai Chi. If you stick with Tai Chi, I feel your brain will be forced to change in ways you may not be aware of or you may not desire.

You might actually start using it and become more human. ;)


*puke!*:rolleyes:

Anything that has anything to do with taichi brings out the chum-spewing hippies.

[charyuop]

Diverting from original meaning of Tai Chi? Are you referring to Taoist meditation and all that implies?

It is not what they told me or not told me. I read a little bit of the history of Tai Chi and interviews with students of old Yang and Chen masters.

Tai Chi was born as a martial art. The healthy aspect of Tai Chi is something relatively modern, back in the days it was not at all known. Always from the readings that I had, in the origin Tai Chi didn't have a slow form and training was much more violent than what it is today.

As per martial art aspect, I know it is itself the martial art and might seem a contraddiction saying the teacher won't touch the martial art of it. In theory if you learn Tai Chi you learn the martial art. BUT...a martial art to be effective must be also practiced for what it is. I can learn perfectly how to block a punch and counter attack, but if never practiced it will never come natural to use it in moments of need and the same way reflex will never pick up.

I hope you don't beleive that martial art is like in karate kid movies, where you learn to move your hand in one way and you can block anything. Reflex and speed are a main factor in martial art.

[JohnnyMnemonic]

Tai Chi was born as a martial art. The healthy aspect of Tai Chi is something relatively modern, back in the days it was not at all known. Always from the readings that I had, in the origin Tai Chi didn't have a slow form and training was much more violent than what it is today.

I disagree with this completely. How could someone who was a master of Ba Gua not know of the health effects? Especially when Ba Gua men live to be 90 or 100?




I hope you don't beleive that martial art is like in karate kid movies, where you learn to move your hand in one way and you can block anything. Reflex and speed are a main factor in martial art.

Where did that come from? Who was talking about movies?

[JohnnyMnemonic]

*puke!*:rolleyes:

Anything that has anything to do with taichi brings out the chum-spewing hippies.

"Anything that has to do with learning or positivity oin these forums brings out the tobacco chewing, spitball throwing, mentally deficient bullies"


Thinking is good for you unkokusai. Your brain is for using, not for taking up space in your skull.

[Reggie1]

Thinking is good for you unkokusai. Your brain is for using, not for taking up space in your skull.So what are you using yours for? A doorstop?

[charyuop]

I disagree with this completely. How could someone who was a master of Ba Gua not know of the health effects? Especially when Ba Gua men live to be 90 or 100?

Try and read this article (and there are others, just an example).
http://www.dotaichi.com/Articles/TaiChiSanShou.htm

When Tai Chi was created the main idea was "surviving". In China, like in Europe too, there was more violence than today and knowing how to fight was a "must". I really don't think that they created a fighting style thinking "wait, this is healthy...".

If you go to Russia you will find that many men there live past the 90 years of age and none of them I guess practice Tai Chi. In certain countries (due to enviroment and alimentation) life expectation is higher than in other places. I agree that moving your body and joints continuosly helps to reach older ages with good health in movements, but I really don't think Tai Chi or Ba Gua will let you live 100 years. Do you think there are no internal martial arts practitioners who died younger or suffer from arthritis?

Tai Chi is healthier ok, but don't make of it a miracle maker now. Health can get bad internal martial arts or not.

[cjurakpt]

guys, before you go any firther thinking that you can actually have a reasoned interchange with Mjohnny Mnemonic, save yourself the trouble - if you check out any of the other threads he's posted to, you'll soon realize he's a wack-job with a serious persecution complex - (don't take my word for it - go judge for yourselves); in fact, originally I was going to post something to the effect that charyuop, as a TCC newbie, shouldn't get distressed by JM's bizzaro-world rantings, but evidently JM is sooo far out in left field that even a total neophyte is able to reason that he is a grade A nut-burger...

by the way Johnny a.k.a. HAPPEH (yeah, I finally figured out who you really are), when are you gonna realize that you are just far too superior for the rest of us and go back to the 10th dimension?

[qiphlow]

yup, i agree that taijiquan (note the quan at the end of the proper name. quan=fist) is a martial art, designed first for fighting. the health benefits are a side effect. may i suggest again that you get familiar with the mechanics of the movements before you look for applications, and also make sure your basics are solid: shoulders down, elbows down, stances are correct, stepping/footwork is correct, etc.
but you knew that already, right? :D

[unkokusai]

Thinking is good for you unkokusai.


I've seen nothing from you, happeh, that indicates you are in any way qualified to speak on the subject of "thinking":rolleyes: (or anything else, for that matter)

[charyuop]

Oh yea, first I listened to the teacher his list of training. Only in the end I asked if he did also sticky hands, push ends and applications.

I would never dream to look at the fighting part if I can't even breathe properly through the solo form.

As my plan is going there, forget all I ever did in the past with the video and do step by step what the teacher (I don't think the word master is appropriate in this case) says. I am sure my form is full of errors of postures due to the fact of not having someone correcting me. Going there as the one who knows everything would be really idiot of me. By going there as the one who knows nothing on the other hand I will have all to gain and nothing to lose.

[JohnnyMnemonic]

Try and read this article (and there are others, just an example).
http://www.dotaichi.com/Articles/TaiChiSanShou.htm

When Tai Chi was created the main idea was "surviving". In China, like in Europe too, there was more violence than today and knowing how to fight was a "must". I really don't think that they created a fighting style thinking "wait, this is healthy...".

You insist on calling it a fighting style. I don't think you considered my questions too deeply



If you go to Russia you will find that many men there live past the 90 years of age and none of them I guess practice Tai Chi. In certain countries (due to enviroment and alimentation) life expectation is higher than in other places. I agree that moving your body and joints continuosly helps to reach older ages with good health in movements,

Naivety. People in other countries do live to an old age. The statement was not that a person must do Tai Chi in order to live to an old age. The statement was it could help a person who was not blessed with whatever it is that makes people live to an old age naturally, live to an older age.



but I really don't think Tai Chi or Ba Gua will let you live 100 years. Do you think there are no internal martial arts practitioners who died younger or suffer from arthritis?

Hmmm. I guess you did not look at the Ba Gua video thread in this sub forum then? The man performing in the video lived to be 111 or so.

It is a shame that your thinking does not match actual reality.




Tai Chi is healthier ok, but don't make of it a miracle maker now. Health can get bad internal martial arts or not.

You have been poisoned. You have been poisoned by evil people like Unkokusai. You have allowed yourself to adopt their negative persona. No good will come of it.

What I do is open up people's minds. I say this or that and their brain will begin to open up. They will begin to get a taste of what it really means to be a human being. This statement is not empty words. Your mind will literally open or grow if you listen to and think about what I say.

This process and the open mind itself are delicate. It only takes a few negative words or a negative attitude to interrupt the process and make the mind snap shut again.

Finding someone who can teach you to wave your arms and legs about is easy. There is a school that teaches that every 5 blocks or so. Finding someone who can open your mind is relatively rare. You might look 5 or 10 years to find someone who can do that.

[unkokusai]

You insist on calling it a fighting style.


Because that's what it is, you idiot.:rolleyes:

[unkokusai]

What I do is open up people's minds.


No, what you do is annoy people. Go back to your Dragonball and pointy-feet theories, happeh.:rolleyes:

[cjurakpt]

You have been poisoned. You have been poisoned by evil people like Unkokusai.


Go back to your Dragonball and pointy-feet theories, happeh.:rolleyes:

damm1t unko - you poison us all with your pointy-headed negativity! get thou behind me, you Satan!!!

[unkokusai]

damm1t unko - you poison us all with your pointy-headed negativity! get thou behind me, you Satan!!!

I'm sorry! Oh, if only someone could help me; lift the shackles from my mind and make me................*voice of mel gibson at the end of BraveHeart when he yells 'freedom!'*...........HUMAN!!!!!!!

[cjurakpt]

What I do is open up people's minds.

yeah, you're the flammin' human can opener...



I say this or that and their brain will begin to open up.

and the realization that you are a wack job will burst forth...



They will begin to get a taste of what it really means to be a human being.

how fortunate that you are around for us trogs to have the chance to realize our intrinsic humanity...



This statement is not empty words.

yes it is



Your mind will literally open or grow if you listen to and think about what I say.

grow tired of you, yes...



This process and the open mind itself are delicate. It only takes a few negative words or a negative attitude to interrupt the process and make the mind snap shut again.

sprooingggg!



Finding someone who can teach you to wave your arms and legs about is easy. There is a school that teaches that every 5 blocks or so.

yeah, that whole Arm Waving Francise - like Kung-Fu Starbucks...



Finding someone who can open your mind is relatively rare. You might look 5 or 10 years to find someone who can do that.

unfotunately, even when we don't seek, a nut-job like you manifests spontaneously

c'mon Happeh - givve us that link to your home-page...

[cjurakpt]

BTW, just keeping a running tally of "evil" people in the World According to JM: Tai Chi Bob, Scott Brown, YiLiQuan1, unkokusai, myself - it's turning into a regular who's who...

[charyuop]

You insist on calling it a fighting style. I don't think you considered my questions too deeply

Who taught you Tai Chi? You master never mentioned to you Tai Chi IS a fighting style? I can't consider it too deeply when it is wrong in the basics.




Naivety. People in other countries do live to an old age. The statement was not that a person must do Tai Chi in order to live to an old age. The statement was it could help a person who was not blessed with whatever it is that makes people live to an old age naturally, live to an older age.

And of course you can prove it right? Reach an old age healthy is one thing, but that makes you live longer I doubt you can prove it.




Hmmm. I guess you did not look at the Ba Gua video thread in this sub forum then? The man performing in the video lived to be 111 or so.
It is a shame that your thinking does not match actual reality.

Yes I watched that video and I even answered to the thread. As I said, moving body and joints helps to keep healthier, but could you say that man without Ba Gua would have died before 111 without any doubt?





You have been poisoned. You have been poisoned by evil people like Unkokusai. You have allowed yourself to adopt their negative persona. No good will come of it.

No offense for anyone, but I don't think I have ever read any message from anyone regarding this subject. People happen to have their own ideas and believes.


What I do is open up people's minds. I say this or that and their brain will begin to open up. They will begin to get a taste of what it really means to be a human being. This statement is not empty words. Your mind will literally open or grow if you listen to and think about what I say.

Man you are full of yourself....


Finding someone who can teach you to wave your arms and legs about is easy. There is a school that teaches that every 5 blocks or so. Finding someone who can open your mind is relatively rare. You might look 5 or 10 years to find someone who can do that.

Well I looked for 2 years and didn't even find the one who taught me how to wave my arms and legs...the closest school is 2 hours away by car. But maybe you can use your mystical words to show me a good school 5 blocks away from where I live.

[JohnnyMnemonic]

Who taught you Tai Chi? You master never mentioned to you Tai Chi IS a fighting style? I can't consider it too deeply when it is wrong in the basics.

You would not know them. Why does it matter?



And of course you can prove it right? Reach an old age healthy is one thing, but that makes you live longer I doubt you can prove it.

Foolishness. Argumentative. Time Wasting.



Yes I watched that video and I even answered to the thread. As I said, moving body and joints helps to keep healthier, but could you say that man without Ba Gua would have died before 111 without any doubt?

Timewasting. Argumentative. No useful point.



No offense for anyone, but I don't think I have ever read any message from anyone regarding this subject. People happen to have their own ideas and believes.

You didn't read the other messages in this thread? Just mine? That is odd.



Man you are full of yourself....

Statement of fact sullied by your sarcasm.

That is the poison I am talking about. You do not have to make these short comments to me. I will make you think about that in a bit.



Well I looked for 2 years and didn't even find the one who taught me how to wave my arms and legs...the closest school is 2 hours away by car. But maybe you can use your mystical words to show me a good school 5 blocks away from where I live.

More sarcasm that borders on hate.

[JohnnyMnemonic]

Mr Charyuop. I am going to try one more time.


Kung fu does not change just your body. The style of kung fu that you practice will influence your brain. Your personality, your attitude and your thinking are all influenced by your kung fu style.

Kung fu also strongly affects the health of a person. You can choose a kung fu that makes you very powerful. There is usually a price to pay. Some part of your body is being overstressed to create that power. You will be a strong man. As long as you live.

When you read my posts, what do you see? You see someone who writes paragraphs and paragraphs trying to get an idea across or trying to impart a feeling. My posts could be described as "watering and fertilizing ideas in the minds of others so that the grow".

My words and way of speech are related to my kung fu. My kung fu is about growing upwards towards spirituality or holiness. It is about having a healthy body and living a healthy life. It is about being a good person who is an asset to the community they are a part of.


When you read the posts by Unkokusai, what do you see? You see short, sharp one line responses that are full of hate. That is the kung fu of Unkokusai. His kung fu is a brutal kind of kung fu that hits and pummels the other person until they cannot take it anymore. The kung fu of Unkokusai is for killing things.

Do you want to emulate Unkokusai? Do you want to be a killer that stomps things? Unkokusai cannot control himself. When he see's something positive or something growing, his killer kung fu forces him to stomp and kill. He is not in control of himself. He is controlled by his kung fu.

I find it hard to believe that Unkokusai would be viewed as an asset to the community. He does not add his own knowledge to a discussion. He just stomps on everyone elses knowledge. Unkokusai's words and behavior would make people physically ill. His hate would make their heart's hurt. They would need to stay away from him to protect the health of their heart.

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If you look at my posts, you will see that overall I am a postive person. Most of my language is phrased so that it tries to push people upwards. Why would I do this?

When people talk about spiritual or holiness, which direction is holiness or spirituality associated with? The direction up. Towards heaven.


If you look at posts by unkokusai or his sock puppets, what do we see? We see hurtful language that is designed to push people downwards. Why would they do this?

In terms of spirituality and holiness, what is the direction down associated with? Down is where hell is. Down is where Satan lives.

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If you have the time, I need you to perform an experiment. If you choose to do the experiment and you are an imaginative or sensitive person, you should learn something life changing.

Start at the beginning of this thread and read the messages. When you read one of my messages, you should feel an actual physical feeling of moving upwards. Or perhaps your brain will feel as if it is opening up. Or maybe your heart might feel as if it is getting bigger. This can also manifest itself as uneasiness or nervousness. It depends on how tight and/or receptive you are. You may feel nothing at all. It depends on your sensitivity and imagination.

Then, while holding on to the feelings evoked by my messages, read the next messages by the hurtful people. You should feel as if your whole being is being forced downwards into the ground. You should feel like you are being stomped on. If you are sensitive, you might actually feel a pain in your heart.


If you cannot see any of what I say, or you cannot feel anything during the experiment, I will have to declare defeat. You will have to wait for some unknown number of years until you change. Then someone else like me will come along and start the lesson all over again. They will say the exact same things I am saying now. They will listen to your responses to see if you have changed. If you have not changed, they will go away and the process will repeat. Years will go by until it is possible you have changed. Another good samaritan will appear and talk to you to see if you are ready.

There is no benefit in being hurtful, sarcastic or disrespectful. If you drive me away, what will you have left? Is Unkokusai going to teach you something you want to know? He never has before has he? He only showed up here to get into between you and I so that you cannot receive what I have to give.

[unkokusai]

You would not know them.


Because they don't exist. You have never studied anything other than the padding on the inside of your cell. :rolleyes:

[unkokusai]

Kung fu does not change just your body. The style of kung fu that you practice will influence your brain. Your personality, your attitude and your thinking are all influenced by your kung fu style.


Wow, then I can only assume that you are a grandmaster of InsipidAnnoyingA**hole-Fu.

[unkokusai]

If you look at my posts, you will see that overall I am a

Overall you are an annoying **** and if you post for the next 500 years you will not convince one person that you are some kind of holy man. You have already convinced most everyone that you are some kind of drooling nutjob.

The doctor gave you those pills for a reason. Take them!

[charyuop]

There is no benefit in being hurtful, sarcastic or disrespectful. If you drive me away, what will you have left? Is Unkokusai going to teach you something you want to know? He never has before has he? He only showed up here to get into between you and I so that you cannot receive what I have to give.

Wow...that was kinda hard. Trust me I had to fight hard to read through all of that. I am who I am and I am pretty proud of it.
There are two things that I have to say about all your "holy preach".
1_ it took 35 years to build who I am and my personality. If you think that starting the study of a martial art could change me deeply you are 10000% wrong. Sarcasm is something you don't like? Well then stop acting you know everything about me. You are the one making fool of yourself, all my sarcasm does is trying to make you realize that.
2_ man, I am atheist. I believe in something beyond our understandings, but I don't really believe in all the holy writings around the world. Words written in antient times by unknown people who could have invented everything (no disrespect or offense to the believer please, this is just my position). Said that...what makes you think that your "wanna-be" Jesus-Allah-Buddah.... way of speaking has any somewhat of touch in my soul (and no, not even hate)?

Between us, I really hope this is your "forum personality", because in real world people like you tends to be avoided and left alone.

By the way, now from a non fighting internal martial art you moved to kung fu in case you didn't notice hee hee...it is kinda hard to find some consistency in your words and when you are really with no argumentation to support your opinions it becomes a waste of time! You are wasting my time, thank you!

[cjurakpt]

for those of you have not yet come to understand the unbelieveably freakish nature of Johnny Mnemonic / Happeh, check out the below post:


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i KNWO SOME OF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME BUT HERE IS ANOTHER HAPPEH'S WEBSITES
http://www.angry*****.org/ (about masterbation)
I know the name looks like a porn site, but its really his website!

His profile http://www.blogger.com/profile/3893840

http://dbzreallife.blogspot.com/ About dragonball Z and real life

http://evilplots.blogspot.com/ about evil plots

http://happehsecretsoflife.blogspot.com/ Secrets of life

http://masterofbation.blogspot.com/ More masterbation

http://peopleenergy.blogspot.com/ How to see people's energy

http://youareabig*****.blogspot.com/ We all are big *****es

http://humanpyramids.blogspot.com/ Human pyramids

http://serouslyhappeh.blogspot.com/ His devotion to serious sam games

http://evilincarnate.blogspot.com/ Evil incarnation

http://cyclopeaneye.blogspot.com/ About cyclops? WTF

http://inventioninspirations.blogspot.com/ Inspirations for human inventions

http://www.happeh.com/ His official website

http://www.happeh.com/HappehTheory/W...ngMainPage.htm Watch everuthing section

http://www.happeh.com/HappehTheory/N...esMainPage.htm
There are no coincidences section

http://www.happeh.com/HappehTheory/M...tsMainPage.htm His martial arts page section

http://www.happeh.com/EvilPlans/EvilPlansMainPage.htm Various plots section

http://www.happeh.com/KungFu/SeeingE...plesPage01.htm
YOU HAVE GOT TO SEE THIS PAGE!!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

http://www.happeh.com/KungFu/ButtBre...tBreathing.htm How to breath with your butt!!!!



Plus all the forums he has been on

http://forums.philosophyforums.com/m...ofile&id=10978
Philosophy forum

http://happeh.deviantart.com/ ART FORUM

http://forums.ugo.com/archive/index.php/t-23441.html UGO forum

http://www.sciforums.com/member.php?u=20923 Science FORUM

http://mods.moddb.com/182/team-happeh-mod/ VIDEO GAME FORUM

http://www.lulu.com/browse/search.php BOOK PUBLISHING

AND FINALT HAPPEH"S YOUTUBE VIDEOS EXPLAINING HIS IDEAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HEAR HIS VOICE!!!!!!!!!

A MUST SEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS5GpKVVJ-0
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHZ_...e=user&search=
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all in all folks, we are dealing with one bona fide wack-a-doo

'nuff said...;)

[_William_]

Why hasn't he been banned yet? Reading through his schizophrenic ramblings is an annoying pain in the ass.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

What if I told you the martial aspects of Tai Chi were a trick to attract violent and aggressive people?

What if I told you that all the different movements of Tai Chi that are described as this block and that attack were to misdirect your attention and to fool you so that you can be taught to become a human being?

What if I told you that focusing on the martial aspects of Tai Chi would likely prevent you from learning what Tai Chi is really about?


Don't get me wrong. Tai Chi can be used for fighting. It does make the body strong.

But what if they were tricking you? Why would they do that? What would be the purpose of the Tai Chi form if tricking you was their purpose? Would you hate them because they were playing games with you and tricking you?

You might want to prepare yourself for all of those questions if you are sincere about learning Tai Chi. If you stick with Tai Chi, I feel your brain will be forced to change in ways you may not be aware of or you may not desire.

You might actually start using it and become more human. ;)

I'd say that you know nothing about Tai Chi or that you were just a straight up liar. There seems to be a conspiracy by those who don't want to learn Tai Chi to relegate it to a fitness routine.

People who are thinking of this should stick with yoga, there is no martial aspect to the Lotus position and that's what you should be doing instead of trying to bring down Tai Chi. :rolleyes:

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Because that's what it is, you idiot.:rolleyes:

You should apologize to the Idiots of the world. This guy couldn't pack their lunch! :cool:

[Nebuchadnezzar]

...... If you drive me away, what will you have left?.......

We would have (breaks into song):

One less, psycho to answer. One less, brain that's fried. One less nut, to pick up after. Though we try to forget, you just keep coming back.

Each time you submit a post, we still run. We don't don't know how, in the world, a Troll like you was hatched. Or what rock you crawled out from under.... :cool: