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[packard]

So if some one has a left side paralisys caused by a stroke, leaving speach and mobility restricted, how can this be explained in TCM.

Any views on acc presciptions?

Any ideas?

Chen

[herb ox]

Strokes are often described in terms of phlegm blockage. Bear in mind there are 2 types of phlegm in TCM - substantial (i.e. the kind you cough up) and non-substantial (invisible, causing nodules and nervous system issues). I've heard some amazing stories of scalp acupuncture being used to treat patients left without the ablility to walk or speak. Seek a stroke specialist (acupuncturist)! The average acupuncturist may not be prepared to handle such issues, although your friendly local TCM doc should be able to refer you to a practicioner specializing in stroke recovery and scalp acupuncture.

good luck

herb ox

[packard]

many thanks for the answer.

any ideas on points for me to do some accupressure?

Chen

[alquimista]

Hemiplegia consists in the unilateral paralysis of the arm or leg, or both. Hemiplegia is seen in the sequelae stage of Wind-Stroke. Hemiplegia is caused by wandering of Liver-Wind and Phlegm in the meridians.

The term Wind-stroke in Chinese medicine corresponds to four possible Western medical conditions:
– cerebral haemorrhage
– cerebral thrombosis
– cerebral embolism
– spasm of a cerebral vessel.
In Western medicine these four conditions come under the term "cerebro-vascular accident" (CVA), i.e. a pathological state of the blood vessels in the brain. The sudden neurological impairment caused by a CVA is called "apoplexy" in Western medicine and popularly referred to as "stroke".

The pathology of Wind-stroke may be summarized in only four words: Wind, Phlegm, Fire and Stasis. These are the four pathogenic factors involved in the pathogenesis of Wind-stroke.
The most important differentiation in Wind-stroke is between that which attacks the internal organs and channels and that which attacks only the channels. According to this distinction there are two types of Wind-stroke:
–Severe type which attacks the internal organs and the channels
–Mild type which attacks only the channels.
Wind-stroke from attack of the internal organs and channels is characterized by apoplexy, loss of consciousness, possibly coma, aphasia, paralysis and numbness. The distinguishing signs of attack of the internal organs by Wind are loss of consciusness, coma and aphasia.
Wind-stroke from attack of the channels alone is characterized by unilateral paralysis (hemiplegia), numbness and slurred speech. There is no loss of consciousness or coma.
Following a severe type attack of Wind to the internal organs, a person who survives will enter the sequelae stage when the clinical manifestations are the same as in a mild type (attack of channels only), i.e. unilateral paralysis (hemiplegia), numbness and slurred speech. Thus, these manifestations may either arise independently from an attack of the channels alone, or they may be the sequelae of an attack of the internal organs.

There are some points i could recomend but ... better go to a TCM Doctor. Diagnosis and prescription should not be made on internet ... sorry.

[alquimista]

Hello ... im sorry about my bad english ... i just read this thread for the 1st time ... i am a little confused about all this western scientific names like ideomotor, CTS, IMR ... i didnt read all messages (they are too many already) but i think the main point of the thread is about when the body moves by itself with no conscious mind activity ...

Tao Te Ching explain this with “non-action”

In chapter 3 it says : Exercise “non-action” to rule and all will be well

When you live in harmony with Tao you act with no conscious mind activity ... because you are in harmony with everything around ... your instict will allways know what to do without the need of think. I practice Taiji (only meditation forms – no martial art) for 7 years and my master says that i will only be practicing Taiji for real if i can reach the state of Wuji (emptyness) ... so i can play the all form without thinking in what i´m doing ... just flowing naturally like water in the river... he says when i dont think i can feel the energy of Tao flowing in my body ... its difficult to play the all form without thinking ... i can only do it for some movements and is really like my body is moving alone... i just have to think when i start and then i just stop thinking and my body continues to move ... its a sensation that i can not describe ... but is really good ... i really hope one day i can play the all form like this ... it makes me feel really happy and in a very good mood.

I think in martial arts must be the same but much more difficult because you are fighting and everything happens so fast ...

I would like to know if any of you play Taiji following this principle ... if yes i would like to know about your feelings when you play.

Thank You,

Jorge

[alquimista]

sorry ... i put the last message in the wrong thread ...

[mawali]

One strategy for stroke is acupuncture and not acupressure.
Acupressure, tui'na, nuad thai, etc is good relaxative activity, as a rule

[alquimista]

One strategy for stroke is acupuncture and not acupressure.
Acupressure, tui'na, nuad thai, etc is good relaxative activity, as a rule

that is a wrong concept ... you dont need to use acupuncture or herbs to treat internal problemas ... acupressure and tuina can have the same or better results then acupuncture ... specially if you dont have a good skill in needles manipulation (most of the acupunctures dont have it).

Actually, acupressure is one of the many TuiNa technics ... and if you use TuiNa like it should be used (by the same principles then acupuncture; TCM) then you can have the same results ... the difference is that TuiNa demands much more energy and work from the healer then using acupuncture ... and acupuncture demands much more skill and energy perception so you can manipulate the needles with the results you expect.

Jorge

[Po Chi Lam]

Tui na is a very important part of the stroke recovery process in TCM. No matter what pattern of stroke, tui na along the yangming (stomach and large intestine) meridian is done on the affected side. The technique is usually yi che quan "work with one finger" done up and down the yangming meridians of the arm and leg. Simply moving the affected limbs is also important to exercise the area and provide stimulus to the affected muscles. With paralysis you have to make sure the the shoulder is not dislocating due to muscle atrophy. Make sure you remind your neurologist to keep this in mind if you are not familiar with how to look for the sulcus (depression) that starts forming in the shoulder joint. Pressing firmly on Kd 1 (on the sole of the foot, anterior 1/3) will make the leg jump (even with paralysis of the leg) and should be used a couple of times during each tui na session. Acupuncture and herbs will make the recovery much faster.

Remember there is no good therapy in western medicine for stroke recovery, TCM is the best way to go.

Best Wishes,

Fred

P.S. Traditionally, Tui Na is NEVER EVER used for relaxation!!