Metabolic Rates

[Meat Shake]

My metabolism is and always has been on the rampage. in 1 year of absolutely NO training, and eating like a sloppy fat sack of sh!t, Ive only managed to gain a small belly. (Which I am quite proud of)
Trying to gain weight...
I know I can push back from 165 to about 190 in the next 2 months with lean protein and a quite potent creatine blend...
But what about breaking that plateu?
Any good dieting ideas from anyone?
I get a chance to eat a good breakfast, but work about 10 hours a day with only a 30 minute lunch break...
Right now its looking like oatmeal, a banana, and a protein shake for breakfast,
Lunch will be tuna salad (with hardboiled eggs in it), and some ramen noodles,
Dinner will always be heavy with pasta and meats, or tortillas and meats. Or burgers... Either way, meats. And protein shake for desert.

Main thing is lunch...
Thoughts?

[Meat Shake]

Is it coincidence that the health forum doesnt have people posting in it often?
Maybe some correlation here that the rest of the forum may need to think about eh?
Hmmm....

[Charles T Rose]

If you eat a large portion of animal protien for breakfast,like dinner sized, you will feel a significant difference and it will help you make gains and recover much better.
I made the mistake for years of drinking a protien shake in the morning,starving by 11:00AM and stuffing myself at night.
Trust me when I tell you there is no substitute for eating meat with breakfast.

[DaveTart]

Don't just eat pies - make sure you pump iron too, and be effective in what you choose to do.

Check this out

http://www.exrx.net/WeightTraining/LowVolumeTraining.html
"Many scientific studies demonstrate one set is almost effective as multiple sets, if not just as effective in strength and muscle hypertrophy (Starkey, Pollock, et. al. 1996). These studies have been criticized for using untrained subjects. Hass et. al. (2000) compared the effects of one set verses three sets in experienced recreational weightlifters. Both groups significantly improved muscular fitness and body composition during the 13 week study. Interestingly, no significant differences were found between groups for any of the test variables; including muscular strength, muscular endurance, and body composition."

And to build a routine:
http://www.exrx.net/WeightTraining/Instructions.html

[Ford Prefect]

I think perhaps it's because nobody takes this that seriously. So you have a fast metabolism, yet you are going to gain 25 lbs in 2 months while exercising despite not gaining much weight at all when eating like crap and not exercising... On top of this, you break down basically no real specific diet plan and no training program at all, and you are looking for input to break through plateaus and different dieting advice? We kind of have to know what you're doing first...

[Meat Shake]

More specific break down

3 Protein shakes a day
Large breakfast with eggs, oatmeal, OJ, and a shake
Mid day shake
Lunch is large tuna salad and noodles
late day shake
Dinner is always some large meat dish. Changes daily... Chicken beef or fish...
After dinner I snack on fruits, sometimes crap food...

Working out monday wednesday and friday.
Monday is biceps, back, and quads. 3 sets of 8 curls, 3 sets of 8 inclined curls, 3 sets of 8 curls standing up with that ****ed machine... I forget what its called. Has weights on either side of you, pulleys with multiple handles... Good for chest, biceps, or hindu situps. After biceps, I do 3 sets of upright rows, 3 sets of overhead pull downs, 3 sets of ... I need to learn the names of these things again...
Legs I do 3 sets of 8 also of leg lifts, then work the bag until I cant walk.


Ill post wednesday tomorrow, which is chest, triceps, and legs in general....

"On top of this, you break down basically no real specific diet plan and no training program at all, and you are looking for input to break through plateaus and different dieting advice? We kind of have to know what you're doing first..."

More or less looking for some people who have been in a similar situation and achieved success...
Also, I have been skinny all of my life but I am 23 now and can apparently gain weight much easier than I used to. Ive put on 6 pounds in the last week and have bulked up significantly... (I weigh myself 1st thing in the morning)
I just dont have the time to really sit and outline my entire plan and everything I do. I work **** near 60 hours a week, Im producing for a gospel band, and engineering and executive producing a local hip hop group, and mixing and mastering 4 tracks for a skate video being put out by a local skate shop. The time I spend working out pretty much takes the time I had to chat on this forum. Today I just have time because Im WAY to sore to work out and its my day off, and I just so happened to be downloading updates for processing plug ins.
Anyhow...
Any input is still appreciated, as I do usually have time to stop and read.

[Adventure427]

Wow...6lbs in a week? Keep that up at that rate and you'll gain 312lbs in a year ^_^

[SevenStar]

mass builders - pick up some barbells. squat, bench and dead are great. supplement it with another pressing exercise, like the military press, and perhaps barbell curls and skull crushers.

plenty of food will be key. if you wanna get big, ya gotta eat big.

for a creatine supplement, look into celltech hardcore.

[Meat Shake]

Actually, I switched a year or two ago to SAN systems V12 instead of celltech because of sugar content...
http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/creatine/san-v12-turbo-review.htm

Pretty pleased with results myself, Ive gained 10 pounds in the last few weeks.
:)

As for structure...
What muscle groups do you work together each day?
(Back, Chest) (Biceps, Shoulders) (Triceps Chest)... ?

[yenhoi]

At 10 hours a day you should still get 2 or 3 tens? Do you smoke?

You can chop up that chicken meal at the end of the day into one big salad and two smalls. Or eat the meat meal before work and have protein bars and shakes at work. Get rid of the ramen.

You can slow your metabolism down by eating the steaks on the weekends and no beef during the week.

To gain mass the lifts are much less important then what you eat and how. Listen to everyone when they say, eat lots more, cause thats really what you need to do.

I generally always tell people to lay off the curls and incline curls and more curls and do things like 7* said, squat, dead, press, etc.

For a long time I was having a large protein shake 30min to 1 hour before bedtime to help gain weight.

:p

[yenhoi]

Here is a good thread to review:

http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39039

:eek: :cool: :eek:

[Meat Shake]

At 10 hours a day you should still get 2 or 3 tens? Do you smoke?

You can chop up that chicken meal at the end of the day into one big salad and two smalls. Or eat the meat meal before work and have protein bars and shakes at work. Get rid of the ramen.

You can slow your metabolism down by eating the steaks on the weekends and no beef during the week.

To gain mass the lifts are much less important then what you eat and how. Listen to everyone when they say, eat lots more, cause thats really what you need to do.

I generally always tell people to lay off the curls and incline curls and more curls and do things like 7* said, squat, dead, press, etc.

For a long time I was having a large protein shake 30min to 1 hour before bedtime to help gain weight.

:p


2 or 3 tens? What do you mean?

I dont smoke cigarettes, and burn ganja very seldom these days.
I have a bad left side in general... bum knee, bum shoulder... The knee pops when I do squats. I do plenty of presses, but even seated leg press gives my knees a hard time.

[yenhoi]

I thought if you were working 10 hour days for a big company, you would get at least two or three ten minute breaks.

Wouldn't doing compound lifts help fix your bumness?

[Meat Shake]

I get 1 thirty minute break....
I could maybe turn that into 2 15 minute breaks if need be...


Compound lift?


Could someone direct me to a good site with photo examples of lifts?
Thanks.

[yenhoi]

Read this entire website:

http://www.exrx.net
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/OlympicLifts/Clean.html
http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html

and then this one

http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[Meat Shake]

Ergh...
Fatigued bad today....
Finished my basic routine and went to do bagwork and my legs decided to stop working.