Working the staff! ;)

[Chief Fox]

I really like working with my staff. :D

Currently, I know one staff form.

Here it is: http://www.mccarriedesign.com/staff_form.mov

I don't have a sifu to teach me another staff form. I know that I could continue to work the staff form I have but I'd really like to learn something new.

I'm considering learning a new staff form from video.

Here's what I've found:
WLE Monkey King Staff: http://www.wle.com/products/VHG04D.html

Dr. Yang, Jwing Ming Taji & Shaolin Staff: http://www.ymaa.com/publishing/video/external/taiji_shaolin_staff2

Martial Arts Mart - Shaolin Wind Demon Staff: http://www.martialartsmart.net/tckprgs210.html

Any thoughts on any of these? I'm leaning towards the WingLam form right now.

Thanks for your input.

[bodhitree]

get the martial arts mart one and support the **** forum you freeloader.;)

[BruceSteveRoy]

i agree with supporting the forum but the winglam one is probably pretty good. i have seen some of his BSL hand set instructional videos and they were pretty well done. as far as i could tell.

[bodhitree]

http://www.martialartsmart.net/tcck003.html

The quality of this set is really good. I had the lian huan quan one years ago. Traditional, simple, and direct.

[Chief Fox]

I guess I should support the cause. That Winglam one looks pretty good though.

Does anyone have the Wind Demon Staff video? Can I get a review?

[bodhitree]

why don't you take up dung fu.



kinda ot
I used to work in a neighborhood with a couple vietnamese grocery stores and there was this guy that worked at one of them, whose name happened to be Dung. He's vietnamese, so, okay enough, right? He displayed his name everywhere, custom liscense plate, tee shirt, name tag. I wonder if he knows....

[WinterPalm]

I like the video!:)

[Chief Fox]

http://www.martialartsmart.net/tcck003.html

The quality of this set is really good. I had the lian huan quan one years ago. Traditional, simple, and direct.

GREAT! make me even more in-decisive why don't you. :D

[Chief Fox]

I like the video!:)

Which one?

[SanHeChuan]

That one! Duh! :D

[bodhitree]

check the prices, the one I recommend will save more than 15$ over the others.

[Chief Fox]

That one! Duh! :D

Of course! I'm such an idiot. :D

[Chief Fox]

check the prices, the one I recommend will save more than 15$ over the others.

Ok, ok, I ordered it. I took your advice and I supported the cause.

Once I get it, I'll post a review of the video and eventually I'll post a video of me doing it. :D

[bodhitree]

ha ha fooled you I'm really Gene Ching in disguise:eek:

jk

the series seemed pretty good to me.

[WinterPalm]

Sorry, I meant the one that I assume is the one in which you are doing the form...maybe I am wrong.

[Chief Fox]

Sorry, I meant the one that I assume is the one in which you are doing the form...maybe I am wrong.

Oh, I'm sorry man. I thought you were talking about one of the videos I was asking about. My bad.

And yep, that's me doing the form. Not perfect but I feel pretty good with it. It's by far, my favorite form.

[WinterPalm]

I know two weapon forms. Staff and Butterfly knives. I enjoy both of them for quite a few reasons. The staff mainly because I usually only practice it in the summer and it has a nice flow to it and is not as confusing as the Butterfly knives!

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=8858823749708118482

This is the staff set that we do in Toisan Black Tiger. One thing I really like in particular is the ambidextrousness of the set as identical techniques are performed on either side.

[PangQuan]

d@mn chief i wish you lived near me, i would trade staff forms with you. :(

[Li Kao]

Yeah, I wouldn't mind trading staff forms either Chief Fox.

I ordered the staff from martialartsmart.net as well -- never did commit to learning the whole form but it gave me some new patterns to work out and I was satisfied with it... probably something I will go back to at some point. I also have the broadsword, spear, and 3 sectional staff DVD's from there -- all of them are quality in my opinion -- I'm currently working on my spear and 3 sectional staff (and throwing in a lil chain whip too). Keep up the good work, glad to see you are enjoying it.

[monkeyfoot]

thumbs up chief - thats a really nice form

lmao I half expected to hear 'twisted sister', even turned my amp on for it :D

craig

ps: I know Jochen has some vids somewhere on youtube of 'capture the tiger sheep staff'.....oh and check israel flores website.....thats a nice staff set

[David Jamieson]

9 province eyebrow is a nice set.

wind demon is cool.


what is very useful though is drilling the jebas out of the distancing and whip striking techniques.

the control sets are good in the beginning, but developing the power to put through the staff is different.

[B-Rad]

Martial Arts Mart - Shaolin Wind Demon Staff: http://www.martialartsmart.net/tckprgs210.html

Any thoughts on any of these? I'm leaning towards the WingLam form right now.

Honestly, I didn't think the Shaolin video was very good. Struck me as a rather average (and light on content) contemporary wushu staff form (I trained "wushu" staff as my only weapon for 4 years).

[Ben Gash]

Unfortunately I couldn't load your vid :( So it's kinda hard for me to judge your level. The fact that you're looking at the Hung Gar monkey staff though gives me some indication. You haven't said if you want single or double ended especially though. In terms of pure single ended staff technique, the Chau Sot Gwun here
http://espytv.com/clf5animals.htm is a fantastic set.

[Chief Fox]

I know two weapon forms. Staff and Butterfly knives. I enjoy both of them for quite a few reasons. The staff mainly because I usually only practice it in the summer and it has a nice flow to it and is not as confusing as the Butterfly knives!

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=8858823749708118482

This is the staff set that we do in Toisan Black Tiger. One thing I really like in particular is the ambidextrousness of the set as identical techniques are performed on either side.
That was a cool form. It looked very techniacl with some very subtle and intricate techniques. NICE!


d@mn chief i wish you lived near me, i would trade staff forms with you. :(
I guess that's one of the down sides to this internet thing. I'd like to trade some some stuff with you guys too.


Yeah, I wouldn't mind trading staff forms either Chief Fox.

I ordered the staff from martialartsmart.net as well -- never did commit to learning the whole form but it gave me some new patterns to work out and I was satisfied with it... probably something I will go back to at some point. I also have the broadsword, spear, and 3 sectional staff DVD's from there -- all of them are quality in my opinion -- I'm currently working on my spear and 3 sectional staff (and throwing in a lil chain whip too). Keep up the good work, glad to see you are enjoying it.
We'll see how I do when I get it.


thumbs up chief - thats a really nice form

lmao I half expected to hear 'twisted sister', even turned my amp on for it :D

craig

ps: I know Jochen has some vids somewhere on youtube of 'capture the tiger sheep staff'.....oh and check israel flores website.....thats a nice staff set
Thanks man. I had Twisted Sister on my Bung Bo vid. Maybe some Metallica or Van Halen on the vid after I learn this new one. :D


Unfortunately I couldn't load your vid :( So it's kinda hard for me to judge your level. The fact that you're looking at the Hung Gar monkey staff though gives me some indication. You haven't said if you want single or double ended especially though. In terms of pure single ended staff technique, the Chau Sot Gwun here
http://espytv.com/clf5animals.htm is a fantastic set.
Thanks for the link. You'll need the Quicktime plug in to see the video. You can download it here: http://www.apple.com/quicktime

Thanks for all the input guys. Sometimes this forum is really pretty cool. :D

[Chief Fox]

I just got the video and at first glance, this set is very very close to the staff set that I currently have. It may just be a different version of the same set. My old sifu is known for adding his own touches to forms so for all I know it may be the exact same form with out his additions.

The name of this new set is "9 continents".

It's broken down into 6 sections. They review each section multiple times and then break it down into each individual movement. They then demonstrate one possible application for each technique. (Something that we NEVER did at my old school).

It'a great video. I'd like to thank bodhitree for recommending it.

An additional surprising benenfit of this video was, I discovered that I've been some of the techniques in my current staff form incorrectly. The way these same techniques are done in the video make much more sense to me.

I digitized the video and made little quicktime movies of each section. I can now put these movies on my laptop and take the laptop with me to the park or my back yard and work on the form with the reference material right at hand.

I'll post a video of me doing the form in a few weeks.

[Prairie]

Not too shabby at all, Chief Fox. I personally believe it's possible to get a lot out of videos of good instructors. I assume that the video makers believe it's possible too.

I'll be interested to see your progress with the form you learn.

[David Jamieson]

I just got the video and at first glance, this set is very very close to the staff set that I currently have.

You'll find that while you can do many things with a staff, there really are a finite number of things that are found in the many iterations of set play.

sequencing will differ more so than actual techniques.

Watch out for spear sets disguised as staff sets! :p

[oasis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bI40GOc8U4

that's a clip of a kid doing it. obviously he's still working on it as you can tell by some of the longer poses. he also is using a much more flimsy staff despite this being a traditional songshan shaolin form. my friend had learned this form from my old teacher about 2 years ago. you realized the name befitted the form when you heard him swinging the staff around 360. if you are interested in getting it but cannot afford the video sold by martialartsmart, then i have to suggest you get de yang's dvd (sorry gene!)

and good job on your form

[oasis]

the above clip was actually from de yang's school

[Chief Fox]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bI40GOc8U4

that's a clip of a kid doing it. obviously he's still working on it as you can tell by some of the longer poses. he also is using a much more flimsy staff despite this being a traditional songshan shaolin form. my friend had learned this form from my old teacher about 2 years ago. you realized the name befitted the form when you heard him swinging the staff around 360. if you are interested in getting it but cannot afford the video sold by martialartsmart, then i have to suggest you get de yang's dvd (sorry gene!)

and good job on your form

Thanks for the video. That kid's a little bad @ss!