kickboxing causes brain damage

[bodhitree]

Well Duh (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6500087.stm)
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[lkfmdc]

In other news, if you take a large hammer and pound a metal spike into your ear, it will hurt

This just in! Earth is NOT flat......

[Ben Gash]

Does it cause more than drinking beer? Or heading a soccer ball? I always love these stories, the complete lack of context.
Scientifically speaking this is a tiny study, so the statistical relevance of the results is questionable anyway, and for all I know what it actually shows is an abnormal level of hormone activity among Turkish men, or that people with abnormal hormone activity are more likely to kickbox.:rolleyes:

[Royal Dragon]

What if you used a wooden spike?

[rogue]

Another thing that causes brain damage is reading RD's dating threads. But oh what a fun way to lose ones' marbles.:D

[brothernumber9]

What if you used a wooden spike?

No it has to be a banana. Now attack with the banana.

[SevenStar]

What if you used a wooden spike?

I put wood in your woman's ear once. she liked it. she said my wood's sap was soothing...

[Royal Dragon]

Which woman? I have so many! :p

[neilhytholt]

That's one of the reasons I make fun of big puffy gloves. They did a lot of studies of boxing brain injuries and the big puffy gloves worsen the problem because they transfer momentum which rattles the brain in the head, causing a lot of problems.

With bare-handed fighting they said the fights are over a lot quicker and it's mostly skin injuries.

I'd dredge it up, but I think it was in a medical journal.

BTW, they mention head protection. Head protection won't help that much because it's a momentum transfer.

[dougadam]

The American Association of Neurological Surgeons say that 90% of boxers sustain a brain injury.

Boxing may account for fewer deaths than some other sports but the numbers of boxers suffering brain damage are believed to be much higher than recorded.

It is not surprising that head injury is so common in boxing. It is estimated that when a boxer gets a direct blow to the head it is like being hit by a 12lb padded, wooden mallet travelling at 20mph!

Being hit on the head can cause fractures to the bone of the head and face and tissue damage in the brain. A blow can damage the surface of the brain, tear nerve networks, cause lesions, bleeding and sometimes produce large clots within the brain.

The degree of damage suffered by boxers will depend on professional or amateur status. Professional boxers suffer from the cumulative effect of damage to the brain, often resulting in punch drunk' syndrome. The evidence of damage suffered by amateur boxers less clear cut, a number of studies found no evidence of cumulative brain damage.

http://menshealth.about.com/od/fitness/a/boxing.htm

[neilhytholt]

Boxing is the worst because it goes so many rounds with so much head contact with those big gloves and momentum transfer rattling the brain in its cage.

MMA should be less bad, because they stop it at the TKO and with less padding it should do more skin damage and less brain damage. Also, there are fewer rounds, and MMA does more grappling.

[Three Harmonies]

My Qi would block any spikes from entering my ear. Ear Qi!;) :D

[neilhytholt]

block any spikes from entering my ear

You are part of the psiaa ... the pretending is sufficient infernal arts association.

http://www.psiaa.org/membership.htm

[PangQuan]

so your saying this guy is a fraud?

http://www.seattlechentaiji.com/sites/chenxiaowang.html

[BruceSteveRoy]

yeah i read that one of the reasons boxing is so dangerous is bc of the standing 8 count. where as in mma if you get rocked and go down its very often over bc of the ground game and the ref will end the fight if you cant intelligently defend. however in boxing you get rocked and get up 8 seconds is enough for a rocked fighter to recollect himself. that means he can go in for another beating. that increases the chances of serious damage. especially if that happens a few times in a fight. from what i understand the purpose of the standing 8 is to give each fighter a fair chance so that if was just a lucky punch they won't lose becaus of it. but i think it seems kinda of negligent on the aprt of the boxing commission if this is true.

[neilhytholt]

so your saying this guy is a fraud?

http://www.seattlechentaiji.com/sites/chenxiaowang.html

I've never met that guy. I don't know about Derryl, if he does any apps or not. Jake I think is the only school out of the rest of those that do apps except maybe Derryl.

And when I say apps here I'm not talking about this extremely light contact roushou stuff http://www.wuji.com/images/videos/Roushou%20Drill.WMV.

It's a little surprising they let Jake into this thing since he supposedly does apps and sparring.

But this guy Chen Xiao Wang, does he do any apps? Or is he just a wushu guy?

[PangQuan]

I've never met that guy. I don't know about Derryl, if he does any apps or not. Jake I think is the only school out of the rest of those that do apps except maybe Derryl.

And when I say apps here I'm not talking about this extremely light contact roushou stuff http://www.wuji.com/images/videos/Roushou%20Drill.WMV.

It's a little surprising they let Jake into this thing since he supposedly does apps and sparring.

But this guy Chen Xiao Wang, does he do any apps? Or is he just a wushu guy?

lol, i have no idea. i was just yankin your chain haha :D :p ;)

[neilhytholt]

lol, i have no idea. i was just yankin your chain haha :D :p ;)

I don't know about this guy. Madame Gao Fu definitely did no martial apps.

These people -- I have no idea why they do martial arts. Like this one:

http://www.embracethemoon.com/

No apps at all for their taiji. I have no idea why they do it.

I asked some of them once at wuji why they were taking classes and they think they'll be able to defend themselves with soft roushou. I asked a bunch of students from another teacher and they wouldn't answer.

At any rate, I agree about the big puffy glove kickboxing being bad, but you don't have to spar with big puffy gloves.

[dougadam]

A kick to the head will cause allot more damage than a punch

[Meat Shake]

Ninjas dont get brain damage.

[BlueTravesty]

On the rare occasion that ANYTHING touches a Ninja's head, it will be damaged. If a kickboxer were to kick a ninja in the head, the kickboxer would suffer brain damage for several reasons that would be blatantly obvious to any REAL ninja. It's karmic reciprocation.

That doesn't include the more short-term consequence of the foot crumpling like a twig.

Karma is a harsh mistress :D

[neilhytholt]

On the rare occasion that ANYTHING touches a Ninja's head, it will be damaged. If a kickboxer were to kick a ninja in the head, the kickboxer would suffer brain damage for several reasons that would be blatantly obvious to any REAL ninja. It's karmic reciprocation.

Karma is a harsh mistress :D

You can't find a ninja's head through the thick cloud of gas emanating from their front and rear ends.