Please Make An 'off Topic' Area!

[Sal Canzonieri]

Cool now that there is a MMA section


CAN WE PLEASE HAVE AN "OFF TOPIC - Whatever goes" section too!!!!!!!?????

PLEASE.

This sections, esp this one, is getting really clogged up with the political and so on threads.

Every other discussion group site has an area that all the off topics stuff goes too, can we please have it too?

Most people only have a few minutes a day to enjoy this site and all the off topic threads really should be held in their own area.

Thanks!:eek:

[brothernumber9]

Just post in the ORA, I doubt any mods would think anything except "great".
and on that note they need to start a Miss ORA 2007 thread.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

I though this WAS the off topic area?

[PangQuan]

I though this WAS the off topic area?

lol

i thought so too

[lkfmdc]

I though this WAS the off topic area?

darn! beat me to it :mad:

[xcakid]

If there was an Off Topic area, RD would have to have another log in. :D :p :D

[TenTigers]

can you guys please bring this topic to another area? It is wasting valuble space and time.

[TenTigers]

-also, please cut down on the double posting.

[PangQuan]

i think we need another topic about how off topic this topic is, then we need to move it to the un official off topic area, once the topic about this topic decides where the off topic topic's should go....

[TenTigers]

-also, please cut down on the double posting..

[xcakid]

Its not double posting. Its called "sampling"

[Merryprankster]

Ok, so it's a "double post,"

but a forum is more than just its formal subject. It's a community of sorts, and that community is going to cover a wide array of things.

If we're going to start locking up threads on this part of the forum dealing with politics and what not, then I concur that an off-topic forum is highly desirable.

Thanks.

[GeneChing]

Make an adjustment to one forum and everybody wants more.

Give them an inch and they take a yard.
Give them a yard and they take a mile.

:rolleyes:

[Fu-Pow]

I think as long as its labeled OT its fine. If people weren't interested in those threads they wouldn't keep getting bounced to the top and "clutter" up this forum. We could keep splintering the main forum into so many little forums that its not interesting to visit here anymore. While I applaud the MMA forum I think more forums than we have would stifle dialogue.

FP

[Merryprankster]

Where are these types of posts acceptable? That's really all I'm asking. Where do you want us to put them?

[TenTigers]

I think youshould be banned just for bringing this up. Gene? GE-EENE!

ohhh, Gee-eeeennne......

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

If there was an Off Topic area, RD would have to have another log in.

Reply]
Speaking of that, when is someone going to fix my frik'n profile so I can see the main forum anyway?

[GeneChing]

I'm trying to sleep. It was a long weekend...

[bodhitree]

Get out of here with your selfish nerdy self.


I second the BAN idea.

[bodhitree]

Ban both of them

[SevenStar]

Cool now that there is a MMA section


CAN WE PLEASE HAVE AN "OFF TOPIC - Whatever goes" section too!!!!!!!?????

PLEASE.

This sections, esp this one, is getting really clogged up with the political and so on threads.

Every other discussion group site has an area that all the off topics stuff goes too, can we please have it too?

Most people only have a few minutes a day to enjoy this site and all the off topic threads really should be held in their own area.

Thanks!:eek:

we didn't make a new mma section per se - we just reformatted an existing section. Which section could we possibly change to an off topic forum, if we were to to that?

[Water Dragon]

I say go ahead and open an off topic forum, and instead of banning people, we banish them there.

[FuXnDajenariht]

whats with all the locked threads?

[Fu-Pow]

Because Tigerclaw doesn't want people to come here and look at their advertising. Its much better to close down threads that generate a lot of interest. :rolleyes:

[MasterKiller]

Will someone please ban RD until he figures out how to quote correctly?

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Will someone please ban RD until he figures out how to quote correctly?

Reply]

I think I am already banned for that...why else would I have to post under my secret trolling alias?

[GeneChing]

This is a good place for new forum suggestions actually. I'm not sure about where a good place for the political threads would be yet. I'm still inclined to keep them up on the main forum.

[Sal Canzonieri]

Normal for any discussion group to have an off topic area that people can post whatever they want to there.

Kung Fu forum should be just that.

Most people only have a few minutes a day that they can check out the threads and if they have any more spare minutes, post something.

It wastes valuable time have to page through loads of off topic threads to find something relevant.
It makes many people reluctant to post a new thread about something kung fu related because it will get lost amongst the goofy or political or religious or whatever rants.

There's lots of people avoiding the main Kung Fu forum area cause of all the off topic stuff.

If you can post off topic stuff here, you can post it anywhere then.

There's no good reason to not have a separate forum area for off topic threads, every other site is functioning just fine that way.

[Sal Canzonieri]

Quote:

Kung Fu forum:
"The flagship discussion roundtable of Kung Fu Magazine, open to all topics related to the Chinese Martial Arts."

it doesn't say ". . . sometimes, and the rest of the time it is full of topics that are not related to Chinese Martial Arts at all"

does it?

it sucks when people I want to converse with start avoiding the Kung Fu forum
and I have to post stuff in the wrong forum just so these people will notice it.
Plenty of people have been telling me they now avoid going to the main forum.
Is that what you want?

[bodhitree]

Off Topic and On Topic can peacefully co exist. I think you make some great positive contributions to the forum. I was just joking when I said ban you.

The main board gets a lot of attention becuase of the off topic stuff. More people will read threads that are there because they go there for off topic stuff.

I don't see what the big problem is?

[冠木侍]

Hi Gene.

This forum is a very good place...most of the time. My compliments on keeping things in order.

Now, the reason I am writing is about the different subtopics that you have here. All are related to Kung Fu (yes because this is a KMF) and all the categories are very inclusive. However, I've noticed recently that there are a lot of "OT" posts in the Kung Fu Forum. I'm guessing that is because that is THE place where there are the most viewers and posters.

You have everything divided very nicely, even a neat little spot for non-Chinese martial arts and media. So, my question is why not have a category solely for "OT's." It would be a place to chat about non-kung fu or non-TCMA and for people to just rant or tell about what happened to them (anecdotes can be entertaining). RD's Alias talked about driving into a ditch (it was the last thing that I remember that was off topic). It was very humorous but stuff like that should be in a separate category. If people want to tell of encounters with women at a bar, then the open topic lounge would be a good place for that (just a hypothetical example) or some Youtube clip that is unrelated to martial arts.

Of course, this is only a suggestion. It would further serve as a venue to organize all the random stuff that people tend to post. I hope that the main idea is clear.

So Gene, do you think that is a viable option that you could make happen here?

Thanks for your time.

PS...This post is intended solely for the designated recipient.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

The Kung Fu forum IS the off topic general topic "Lounge".

The truth of things is this, we have already talked about EVERY possible martial arts subject so many times it's not even funny. If it wasn't for off topic discussions, this forum wold be dead.

This is the forum for Kung Fu people to meet and have discussions. It's not specifically for Kung Fu topics, but for Kung Fu people to discuss any topic.

[SPJ]

just about all the forums that I know Chinese or english with Kung fu related sites

they all have off topic areas.

the Hong Kong kung fu boards call ot area the water blowing area, chui shui qu.

there are a lot hot girls pics.

the mainland Chinese boards even Wushu 2008, or kuo shu sites

they all have ot areas.

--

I usually stay clear of the areas.

:D;):)

[MasterKiller]

STFU N00b!

[BM2]

just about all the forums that I know Chinese or english with Kung fu related sites

they all have off topic areas.

the Hong Kong kung fu boards call ot area the water blowing area, chui shui qu.

there are a lot hot girls pics.

the mainland Chinese boards even Wushu 2008, or kuo shu sites

they all have ot areas.

--

I usually stay clear of the areas.

:D;):)



That suggestion is preety cool:D

[冠木侍]

The Kung Fu forum IS the off topic general topic "Lounge".

The truth of things is this, we have already talked about EVERY possible martial arts subject so many times it's not even funny. If it wasn't for off topic discussions, this forum wold be dead.

This is the forum for Kung Fu people to meet and have discussions. It's not specifically for Kung Fu topics, but for Kung Fu people to discuss any topic.

Thank you for replying. What you say makes sense in this context because that is exactly what I see here! However I'm sure this forum is for Kung Fu People to discuss Kung Fu...that would be the logical thought. I don't doubt you all have touched a plethora of kung fu topics but for people who are still joining or who may want to create more discussions on said touched subjects, they should be able to do so. I'm sure we get new people all the time and in some way, Kung fu does evolve even though it is heavily into tradition (just throwing something hypothetical out there).

I'm sure the forum would be dead but the viewer-ship and participatation on the site would most likely remain the same. I tend to see the same people post and troll most of the time so this site definitely does have its regular group of misfits.

Not even just this site, even in other forums, there are off topic areas where people have a chance to post stuff which range from interesting anecdotes, to blogging, ranting or just completely random thoughts. Like I said before, it was for the sake of organization and to make things flow. A designated off topic forum would allow chaos and entropy to be contained in an isolated environment and those who wish to partake in such things will continue to do so (oh the madness!)

[冠木侍]

That suggestion is preety cool:D

Thank you. Thank you. I suggested it for the benefit of everyone.

[SanHeChuan]

Her was talking about the suggestion of having more hot chick pics.

Your suggestion blows

If you got a kung fu topic post it, nobody is stopping you, but you dont ,so as a wise man once said STFU!

[冠木侍]

Her was talking about the suggestion of having more hot chick pics.

Your suggestion blows

If you got a kung fu topic post it, nobody is stopping you, but you dont ,so as a wise man once said STFU!

I made the last statement in jest FYI. It seem my attempt at levity was wasted.

Yeah, it is not a kung fu topic. Maybe i should have put "OT" in front of the title, which seems to be the common practice. Then there would be less complaining?

Nobody has stopped me from posting any kung fu topics (but not the subject of my thread). However, I try to post them in a place where it could make sense.

Nothing else written warrants a response.

[bodhitree]

STFU N00b!


Ditto (10 characters)


anyone try the spicy baconator?

[Oso]

dude, we passed 3 billboards after class today, all with the spicy baconator on them....we still opted for margaritas and fajitas though.

I foresee one in my lunch menu sometime this week.

I will also recommend Hardee's little double bacon cheeseburger melt...a little handful of greasy delight!

and while we're on the subject of bacon:

DO NOT be fooled by Digiorno's Bacon Cheeseburger pizza. It is possibly the worst frozen pizza ever.


Mr. Chinese Character Guy: I'm sorry for my fellow moderator's rudeness. He's gone over to the darkside of MMA so he is to be excused for the roid rages.

However, the subject of an "OT Forum" has been discussed ad nauseum...much as RD said that pretty much everything kung fu oriented has been discussed (and dissed and cussed, for that matter). It is, however, a moderately free forum and you can post any topic of kung fu that you want feedback on. If you see the "OT" then you can assume it's not about kung fu and don't waste time clicking that button.

[stonewarrior67]

Stfu Noob....nice Way To Welcome Someone New With A Suggestion. Unless You're In The Special Club Here, Posting About Your Stupid Car And A Baconator (spicy) You're Told To Go F Yourself. If You Can See By My Join Date I Been Here A While With Few Posts...what Really Helps Is There A Neat Function On Here That You Can Add People To An Ignore List...which I'm Adding To Today.

The Board Does Have Good Threads And The Search Engine Is Neat For Looking Up Topics.

Oso, Thanks For Your Post Helping A New Guy Out...always Class With Your Posts. Are You Going To The Great Lakes Touney This Year? You Take Your School Right? Maybe I Meet You.

Sw

Ps I Dont Wanna Hear How I Should't Type In Caps Either...when Caps Is On It's On.

[Oso]

just playing good cop to MK :D


yea, we'll be there. just booked the room at the suite hotel the other day.

i'll be the big ugly guy in shorts and flip flops.

[MasterKiller]

For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Moderator also will forgive you; but if you do not forgive men their trespasses neither will your moderator forgive your trespasses.

[冠木侍]

dude, we passed 3 billboards after class today, all with the spicy baconator on them....we still opted for margaritas and fajitas though.

I foresee one in my lunch menu sometime this week.

I will also recommend Hardee's little double bacon cheeseburger melt...a little handful of greasy delight!

and while we're on the subject of bacon:

DO NOT be fooled by Digiorno's Bacon Cheeseburger pizza. It is possibly the worst frozen pizza ever.


Mr. Chinese Character Guy: I'm sorry for my fellow moderator's rudeness. He's gone over to the darkside of MMA so he is to be excused for the roid rages.

However, the subject of an "OT Forum" has been discussed ad nauseum...much as RD said that pretty much everything kung fu oriented has been discussed (and dissed and cussed, for that matter). It is, however, a moderately free forum and you can post any topic of kung fu that you want feedback on. If you see the "OT" then you can assume it's not about kung fu and don't waste time clicking that button.

Well, just "Playing" good cop, eh? I'm not sure how I'm supposed to interpret that...

Being told to keep quiet (paraphrase) by members has no bearing. It is not the first nor the last time where people have disagreed with me. However, when a Moderator was the first to 'cast the stone', I was a bit taken back because it was something I didn't expect from a person in that position. And there was no explanation as to why such a suggestion would garner such tremendous opposition. All the members who piggy-backed off his quote don't have merit because there was no attempt at a counter or exactly why they did not agree with my suggestion. Or just that the were trying (keyword) to bust the chops of the new member...?

It is not that I was wasting time clicking on OTs. Like I said before, I think some of them are very humorous (ie RD's venture into a ditch). Someone who is fairly new here would find it a bit strange that OTs keep popping up in a forum designated for a specific topic.

RD was polite enough to explain that the kung fu forum is also the OT one and you clarified even more that this subject (of trying to enact a special OT forum) has already been discussed before I made my appearance here...which is the sentiment that I get from both of you. Well, it goes to show what a little courtesy and politeness will accomplish.

PS*I would still be interested in what Gene has to say about this...(OT?) :)

[Oso]

Well, just "Playing" good cop, eh? I'm not sure how I'm supposed to interpret that...

well, neither he nor I have moderation powers on the main board so it's a bit moot that we are 'policing' it at all. The basic faux paus is that the onus is on the poster to at least do a cursory search of the forums to see if the subject has been discussed before and either become informed via previous posting or add to the discussion via a previous thread. The subject HAS been discussed many times before and rather recently in fact. However, a lot of subjects get rehashed via a new thread by a new poster so, to me, it's not a big deal.

Being told to keep quiet (paraphrase) by members has no bearing. It is not the first nor the last time where people have disagreed with me. However, when a Moderator was the first to 'cast the stone', I was a bit taken back because it was something I didn't expect from a person in that position. And there was no explanation as to why such a suggestion would garner such tremendous opposition. All the members who piggy-backed off his quote don't have merit because there was no attempt at a counter or exactly why they did not agree with my suggestion. Or just that the were trying (keyword) to bust the chops of the new member...?

i dunno, you'll have to ask them

It is not that I was wasting time clicking on OTs. Like I said before, I think some of them are very humorous (ie RD's venture into a ditch). Someone who is fairly new here would find it a bit strange that OTs keep popping up in a forum designated for a specific topic.

not if they spent some time researching the forums

RD was polite enough to explain that the kung fu forum is also the OT one and you clarified even more that this subject (of trying to enact a special OT forum) has already been discussed before I made my appearance here...which is the sentiment that I get from both of you. Well, it goes to show what a little courtesy and politeness will accomplish.

PS*I would still be interested in what Gene has to say about this...(OT?) :)

about what? your question of an OT forum or MK's response?

FTR, it was Gene that declared that there would not be an OT forum and that given the wide variety of other forums that are policed to stay very on-topic then the main forum would function well enough as the 'lounge' area and barring porn and challenges...anthing goes.

[cjurakpt]

barring porn and challenges...anthing goes.

you mean there's more? :confused:

[Oso]

well, not really...I know I can't through a day and feel good about myself without at least one good challenge and some decent porn.

[bodhitree]

newbie guy,

You just started, do you not think your suggestion would have been made before.

As it turns out a majority of the regulars here regularly post ot stuff in the kungfu forum.

This forum has been fine for a long time, and when a newbie who does not know the regulars, how we operate, or have a feel for the way the board has been (for years) comes along with a suggestion, in a public forum (rather than sending Gene a private message, or at least putting it on the magazine/website subforum) you're going to get jumped on.


You are free to post something that will get you jumped on, I'm a mod also.

You can post what you feel, you can post what you think, but that doesn't mean you wont get a harsh response, especially when you give us a newbie suggestion like this.

[bakxierboxer]

.... decent porn.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

You've just won first prize for coming up with the Creative Oxymoron of the Month!!! :D

("good porn" s/b "indecent")
(at least in the sense of being "immodest")

[golden arhat]

Hi Gene.

This forum is a very good place...most of the time. My compliments on keeping things in order.

Now, the reason I am writing is about the different subtopics that you have here. All are related to Kung Fu (yes because this is a KMF) and all the categories are very inclusive. However, I've noticed recently that there are a lot of "OT" posts in the Kung Fu Forum. I'm guessing that is because that is THE place where there are the most viewers and posters.

You have everything divided very nicely, even a neat little spot for non-Chinese martial arts and media. So, my question is why not have a category solely for "OT's." It would be a place to chat about non-kung fu or non-TCMA and for people to just rant or tell about what happened to them (anecdotes can be entertaining). RD's Alias talked about driving into a ditch (it was the last thing that I remember that was off topic). It was very humorous but stuff like that should be in a separate category. If people want to tell of encounters with women at a bar, then the open topic lounge would be a good place for that (just a hypothetical example) or some Youtube clip that is unrelated to martial arts.

Of course, this is only a suggestion. It would further serve as a venue to organize all the random stuff that people tend to post. I hope that the main idea is clear.

So Gene, do you think that is a viable option that you could make happen here?

Thanks for your time.

PS...This post is intended solely for the designated recipient.


stfu

martial artist have better things to do than talk about martial arts! god what a boring subject

we come here to talk about

women
the rights and wrongs of voting for so and so
why eating meat is right or wrong
why iam so god **** awesome
fights we've been in
women
money
crime
the state of the economy
chan tai san
mma vs cma
who saw the fight last night ?

etccccc


talking about the various ways of kicking/punching/stabbing someone gets old FAST

there are way more interesting topics
most that relate to martial arts that are interesting at all are more to do with our experiences in the martial arts than merely what they are

so stfu
the kung fu forum is the heart of this place and to change it as u suggested would simply make it suck

[Oso]

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

You've just won first prize for coming up with the Creative Oxymoron of the Month!!! :D

("good porn" s/b "indecent")
(at least in the sense of being "immodest")

you're welcome.

[golden arhat]

I'm sure the forum would be dead but the viewer-ship and participatation on the site would most likely remain the same

what????????????????


that makes no sense

official

[GeneChing]

I've merged your thread to an earlier one of the same topic. Unfortunately, that earlier one lacks a solid answer since it was really in the wake of our MMA forum launch, so let me direct your attention to the why is there no contemporary wushu forum ? thread (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42889) which is one of our longest 'new forum' threads.

Given my personal choice, it would all be one giant forum with no distinctions. We'd let the better threads rise to the top in a truly democratic fashion. Of course, we'd surely only wind up with pornographic flame wars, but such is democracy in action. At some point, we may well introduce a few new forums, but right now, our attention is devoted to updating our commerce websites, www.MartialArtsMart.com and www.TigerClaw.com. Got to pay some bills (http://www.martialartsmart.net/19341.html), don't you know...

Which reminds me, we are working on changing our forum host. We may be down for a short spell when that happens. I'll make a general announcement soon, if this is impending.

MK & Oso playing good cop/bad cop - man, that's just like something out of a bad episode of Law & Order SVU...:rolleyes:

[Oso]

I was thinking more along the lines of Mcnulty and Bunk from "The Wire"

I get to be Mcnulty because he can hold his liquor better than Bunk and has a better shot of getting with Kima before it's all over...that's one hot woman, i don't care what team she plays for on TV.

[MasterKiller]

More like Hardcastle and McCormick.

[Oso]

ha! I'm too pretty to be either one of them. :cool:

[GeneChing]

... Ron Dangle and Clemmie Johnson :eek:

[Oso]

yea...MK is about the same size as Dangle and my azz is about as big as Clemmie's.

[冠木侍]

about what? your question of an OT forum or MK's response?

FTR, it was Gene that declared that there would not be an OT forum and that given the wide variety of other forums that are policed to stay very on-topic then the main forum would function well enough as the 'lounge' area and barring porn and challenges...anthing goes.

Thanks for taking the time to explain. Gene was able to respond.

BTW...I'm sure I saw some challenges when I first got here...

[冠木侍]

stfu

martial artist have better things to do than talk about martial arts! god what a boring subject

we come here to talk about

women
the rights and wrongs of voting for so and so
why eating meat is right or wrong
why iam so god **** awesome
fights we've been in
women
money
crime
the state of the economy
chan tai san
mma vs cma
who saw the fight last night ?

etccccc


talking about the various ways of kicking/punching/stabbing someone gets old FAST

there are way more interesting topics
most that relate to martial arts that are interesting at all are more to do with our experiences in the martial arts than merely what they are

so stfu
the kung fu forum is the heart of this place and to change it as u suggested would simply make it suck

It almost counted as a good reason but then again, no coherency. I'll take your advice under consideration however it still has no substance. Next time try coming from a different angle. You may get better results.

[冠木侍]

newbie guy,

You just started, do you not think your suggestion would have been made before.

As it turns out a majority of the regulars here regularly post ot stuff in the kungfu forum.

This forum has been fine for a long time, and when a newbie who does not know the regulars, how we operate, or have a feel for the way the board has been (for years) comes along with a suggestion, in a public forum (rather than sending Gene a private message, or at least putting it on the magazine/website subforum) you're going to get jumped on.


You are free to post something that will get you jumped on, I'm a mod also.

You can post what you feel, you can post what you think, but that doesn't mean you wont get a harsh response, especially when you give us a newbie suggestion like this.

Such tremendous opposition to a seemingly benign suggestion I did not see coming. I put it where it was going to get the most viewed...that was not a mistake. It was only for Gene and I only responded to certain drivel is a courtesy. It was Gene's response that I was waiting for. I still think it a valid suggestion regardless of the disagreements and tantrums thrown by some of the regulars. Like I said before, this is not the first time I have put something out there that didn't sit well with people. Too bad. It happens and it will continue to happen. That is a given. Your responses, save for the few courteous ones, have given me some insights about the regulars who post on here.

[冠木侍]

I've merged your thread to an earlier one of the same topic. Unfortunately, that earlier one lacks a solid answer since it was really in the wake of our MMA forum launch, so let me direct your attention to the why is there no contemporary wushu forum ? thread (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42889) which is one of our longest 'new forum' threads.

Given my personal choice, it would all be one giant forum with no distinctions. We'd let the better threads rise to the top in a truly democratic fashion. Of course, we'd surely only wind up with pornographic flame wars, but such is democracy in action. At some point, we may well introduce a few new forums, but right now, our attention is devoted to updating our commerce websites, www.MartialArtsMart.com and www.TigerClaw.com. Got to pay some bills (http://www.martialartsmart.net/19341.html), don't you know...

Which reminds me, we are working on changing our forum host. We may be down for a short spell when that happens. I'll make a general announcement soon, if this is impending.

MK & Oso playing good cop/bad cop - man, that's just like something out of a bad episode of Law & Order SVU...:rolleyes:

Well, you were a bit late but we all know that you are busy doing your thing. I was not aware that this had already been discussed at some length and felt that it would help the forum (I see nothing detrimental about this suggestion). Every negative response that has been posted really fails offer any valid rebuttal but basically just states (paraphrasing) that that's the way that you guys have been doing it for years now. It just causes me to roll my eyes.

Yes, in true democratic fashion, I can see your point about the flame wars...more so now based on the responses that I got before yours. Although being new is inevitable (we have to start somewhere), I didn't think that it would have any bearing on my suggestion. I thought that my words would be looked and and didn't expect that my status be used as a negative. But rolling with the good and the bad is part of what we do. Apparently, very few people here were concerned about setting a good example for new members (even though some of us are around the same age).

Anyway, thanks for the heads up about the new host.

And I appreciate that you took time out to respond.

[GeneChing]

Many of our veteran members are unkind to newbies, mostly because we're so infested by trolls. Many of our veteran members are trolls too. We've tried spraying for them. We've tried the no-trolls strips, but they keep coming back. After all, this is a martial arts forum, so we all like to fight after a fashion. Of course, fighting on an online forum is a bit trivial, but hey, for most of us, it beats whatever it is we're supposed to be doing when sitting at our monitors. :p

冠木侍, if you want to post, it's always good to search first. Look before you leap. Search before you post. And if you're only trying to speak to one person, PM them instead of posting. Posts are in the public forum and will always garner response from the general membership.

There's often a hazing in the martial arena. Here on our forum, getting battered about for an early post is a typical hazing. Happens to the best of us. Welcome to the forums. :)

[Oso]

Thanks for taking the time to explain. Gene was able to respond.

de nada

BTW...I'm sure I saw some challenges when I first got here...

sure, it happens...but hands usually get smacked at the very least and then they get banned at least temporarily if it gets out of hand.

imo, you seem to have a rather utoptian outlook on how things should be.



people are people everywhere.




...heh...

:p

:D

;)

[冠木侍]

Many of our veteran members are unkind to newbies, mostly because we're so infested by trolls. Many of our veteran members are trolls too. We've tried spraying for them. We've tried the no-trolls strips, but they keep coming back. After all, this is a martial arts forum, so we all like to fight after a fashion. Of course, fighting on an online forum is a bit trivial, but hey, for most of us, it beats whatever it is we're supposed to be doing when sitting at our monitors. :p

冠木侍, if you want to post, it's always good to search first. Look before you leap. Search before you post. And if you're only trying to speak to one person, PM them instead of posting. Posts are in the public forum and will always garner response from the general membership.

There's often a hazing in the martial arena. Here on our forum, getting battered about for an early post is a typical hazing. Happens to the best of us. Welcome to the forums. :)

I think that may be an understatement Gene :)

I was very careful to word my post as non-offensive as possible but it seems that the "veteran trolls" here will interpret it any which way and then just run with that ball. It all happened in such a short time span while I was awaiting your response (and only yours). I guess you could say that I fell into a trap but then again, it actually turned out to be a good experiment at gaging the type of personalities you have on board here.

I find it funny that you used the word "hazing." This being a MA forum, and the members being such, I thought that they were above such juvenile tactics. I had experienced such things at other forums and thought that this place would be a little different. Sharing a commonality had, in my past experience, a way of ingratiating newcomers. However, as was witnessed, I had incorrectly surmised. But I am not put off in any way. The trolls will always be there and they are free to post whatever garbage enters their minds and exits through their finger tips. I leave the enforcement up to you and your entourage. Still, this valuable experience and those past has made me more aware of spotting such posts.

Yeah, it would be a good idea to search first. I'm sure I would have found this thread and most likely have resurrected it with the same result and same reaction from your "veteran" members. I could have sent you a PM but I had posted on the public forum to prove my point...besides, all the other OT stuff was being posted there as well :p Point well-taken though Gene. I'm sure you all have discussed everything under the sun, moon, stars and galaxy...but as we progress in our training and our experience, I'm sure that the same questions will arise from younger and newer members who look to these "veterans" for answers based on their knowledge and experience. I know that it may have looked as if I were disturbing the status quo over here but as I explained earlier, that is not the case. Like you said, the trolls had come out to play and age and experience here in this forum does not necessarily imply respect or deference (based on what just happened).

Anyhoo, thank ye for the warm welcome Gene.

[冠木侍]

sure, it happens...but hands usually get smacked at the very least and then they get banned at least temporarily if it gets out of hand.

imo, you seem to have a rather utoptian outlook on how things should be.



people are people everywhere.




...heh...

:p

:D

;)


People are people...depending on your definition of said word.

Interesting...no one has ever used "Utopian" to describe my ideas before. Delusions of grandeur, a vision of perfection...

Hehe...it may be a stretch though. I think that if that were the case, I would have described a complete overhaul of certain things but I just pointed out one little thing that didn't seem to sit right.

I'm sure you'll agree that we all have ideas that would make things a little better or make things run more smoothly (possibly) in our lives but we both know that Utopia is an almost impossible ideal and that mode of thinking is often times wasted.

Maybe studying combat is one path that will lead to a Utopia....?

Nah. Probably not.

Take care Sir.

[Oso]

冠木侍:

hiya, I liked your post/response to Gene.

utopia/perfection: enh, we're human. ergo: beyond us.

mostly, my last was having a laugh at myself. :)

welcome and keep the fire extinguisher at hand.

[冠木侍]

冠木侍:

hiya, I liked your post/response to Gene.

utopia/perfection: enh, we're human. ergo: beyond us.

mostly, my last was having a laugh at myself. :)

welcome and keep the fire extinguisher at hand.

Dude, if you can find cause for laughter within this human comedy, then good for ya.

Yes, Utopia is an ideal. However, based on an adage...since we have all experienced so much imperfection, it would stand to reason that we would know what perfection is (and strive toward such a goal...but that is where the logic fails).

I appreciate the advice. What's a few more battle wounds...? :cool:

Yeah, I got the one that looks like a chef (as seen on TV). :p

[Oso]

more like a tragedy in the best form Will could have come up with. but, yea, i keep trying to make sure I laugh at myself as much as i laugh at other people.

[David Jamieson]

yea...MK is about the same size as Dangle and my azz is about as big as Clemmie's.

It's the baconators. :)

[Oso]

took a while to come up with that????

besides, it's not the baconators...it's the beer.:cool:

[David Jamieson]

took a while to come up with that????

besides, it's not the baconators...it's the beer.:cool:

actually, i came up with it immediately upon reading it.

jeez, i don't even scan every thread here let alone read them all. :D

but yeah, beer and baconators = CLOVERFIELD!!! :p

[Oso]

who's cloverfield?

and I only had the one baconator.

yesterday was a cup of mixed nuts and raisins for breakfast, dry, with coffee and then a protien smoothie shake throughout the day and a fajita chicken salad for dinner...with a margarita of course ;)