Other martial arts in China

[bodhitree]

Reading about MMA in China here:
http://www.mmachina.com:81/en/?q=taxonomy/term/2

I see a lot of the Chinese fighters have experience in martial arts such as Greco- Roman, Judo, Boxing, ect?

My questions are:

How are these martial arts/disciplines recieved in China?

Do people maybe look at a Chinese Judoka as unpatriotic?

How available are these arts in Chinese cities?

Do Chinese students have an option to do wrestling/judo as a high school/ middle school sport?

How long have these disciplines been freely practiced (post cultural revolution?)?

This is not meant as a "kung fu vs MMA" kind of thread. Just information wanted

[SPJ]

TKD was promoted since 1960 in Taiwan.

Judo and karate are "rooted" in Taiwan, too.

MMA ups and down or not consistent so far in Taiwan.

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dun know much in China.

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[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFZeLP2QwvM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym2hzKxjFQ0

:)

[bodhitree]

In Taiwan it makes scence because of the Japanese occupation. I don't think the Japanese were as hated in Taiwan as they were in China. My one taiwanese friend's grandmother actually spoke Japanese.

I'm wondering about China because of the nationalist attitude and the cultural revolution. Kung fu was banned, wo what about other martial arts?

[omarthefish]

Reading about MMA in China here:
http://www.mmachina.com:81/en/?q=taxonomy/term/2

I see a lot of the Chinese fighters have experience in martial arts such as Greco- Roman, Judo, Boxing, ect?

Where do you see that? I don't know that that's true.


How are these martial arts/disciplines recieved in China?

Well enough.


Do people maybe look at a Chinese Judoka as unpatriotic?


Not when their winning medals for the CCP they don't.
http://english.cri.cn/2886/2006/12/03/45@169869.htm
http://english.people.com.cn/200509/29/eng20050929_211564.html

The women tend to be a lot more competitive than the men though. I expect it's got something to do with how the weight classes break down.



How available are these arts in Chinese cities?

Most athletic/sports universities have a teams. They tend to attract a lot less attention than Sanda though.



Do Chinese students have an option to do wrestling/judo as a high school/ middle school sport?


No.



How long have these disciplines been freely practiced (post cultural revolution?)?


Huh? About 40 years or so. ???

I don't think they every boycotted the olympics. I'm not sure. At the time of the cultural revolution, the US was not recognizing China as a state. Taiwan was in the olympics as "The Republic of China".

[bodhitree]

Where do you see that? I don't know that that's true.


look at the little blurb about the fighters in the bouts, not EVERY ONE but some say China's best greco-roman wrestler or China's best judoka.




Zhong Yue was formerly the #3 ranked Judo fighter



Yang Jian Ping is a former Greco-Roman wrestler


a jujitsu and karate specialist



takes on boxing specialist, Liu Wen

quotes from www.mmachina.com

[BraveMonkey]

This is an interesting topic and I think that nationalism does tie into it. However, the best point made so far is that if your team is winning, then you tend to be all for it.

Consider that Western boxing is more popular in the US than TKD, but most Americans support the US TKD team and don't consider them unpatriotic. I would guess that it's considered very desirable to beat someone else at their "own game" as the Chinese would be doing if they bested a Western wrestler or Korean TKD-er.

In theory (fingers crossed) I will be leaving to teach English at a Chinese university this summer for about two years and I will most likely be living on campus. I am very interested in what martial arts and sports are available and it will be enlightening to see what is available in general and what, perhaps, is available to me as a white foreigner.