Frantzis and other Warriors

[Fighting_Lad]

Are there any modern day masters that have actually been in a fight? Have people like BK Frantzis ever actually faught people? He looks cool in the book but has he ever actually been in a proper challenge match/fight on the street? Have any other modern day masters that u know of been in fights?

[Fighting_Lad]

I thought this was an amazing thread. Reply if you're up to it...

[Shaolin Wookie]

I was. I picked Dhalsim. That rat ******* of a little mamma's boy didn't even see the yoga flame coming. He just started a sequence of E. Honda's machine gun palm strikes and figured I'd walk right into it. "Yah! Yah! Yah! YAh!"

No siree bobsky. I took that mutha****a down and charred him to a crisp. Then I hit him with my trademark insult, whenever I beat down the fat *******: "Want sumo? I didn't think so!"

I whupped his punkass just for good measure. Little ten year old hotshots don't even know wassup.

[Fighting_Lad]

I was. I picked Dhalsim. That rat ******* of a little mamma's boy didn't even see the yoga flame coming. He just started a sequence of E. Honda's machine gun palm strikes and figured I'd walk right into it. "Yah! Yah! Yah! YAh!"

No siree bobsky. I took that mutha****a down and charred him to a crisp. Then I hit him with my trademark insult, whenever I beat down the fat *******: "Want sumo? I didn't think so!"

I whupped his punkass just for good measure. Little ten year old hotshots don't even know wassup.

I'm not an idiot - your obvious hatred of certain religions disguised in a mindlessly written post (read highlighted letters above in order) is not appreciated at all in reply to what I thought was an interesting topic for discussion. Please go somewhere else.

[Kristoffer]

Ahahahahaha

that's hilarious

[Shaolin Wookie]

I'm not an idiot - your obvious hatred of certain religions disguised in a mindlessly written post (read highlighted letters above in order) is not appreciated at all in reply to what I thought was an interesting topic for discussion. Please go somewhere else.

Here, some of these guys don't read your code, so I fixed it for you.:) You'll have better luck if you post your phone number. I'm sure you get most of your dates off bathroom walls, so you know the drill. Good luck.

[lkfmdc]

I'm not an idiot - your obvious hatred of certain religions disguised in a mindlessly written post (read highlighted letters above in order) is not appreciated at all in reply to what I thought was an interesting topic for discussion. Please go somewhere else.

apparently, my cryptographic program is working just fine....

[Shaolin Wookie]

:D.....but we never even doubted that, man.

[golden arhat]

OMG



MEGA LOLZ

god that was the funniest thign ever


oh and he was from leeds "where your dad's your brother" ahh good old yorkshire

lol seriously

that was some funny **** :D

[Fighting_Lad]

So glad I'm not from Manchester. Anyway, what do peolpe think about Frantzis and other warriors, have they ever been in a proper fight?

[golden arhat]

lol manchester is the most amusing place on earth simply because of

well

mancunions

but yeah i'm from london i just live here :cool:

as for bk frantzis, well mate i read his book it had some useful tips on qi gong and such

i'd like to fight him and see how i do with my mma


yeah actually i think ur average mma fighter would probably cane him like this
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7jf3Gc2a0_8

[Fighting_Lad]

apparently, my cryptographic program is working just fine....

Why did you put certain letters in a larger font from my post? Not only does this make little sense, it also proves how childish you are - come on, please grow up, I'm trying to have a serious debate.

[lkfmdc]

Why did you put certain letters in a larger font from my post? Not only does this make little sense, it also proves how childish you are - come on, please grow up, I'm trying to have a serious debate.

makes perfect sense to me :rolleyes:

[IronWeasel]

LOL


I just wanted to take the time to say thanks!

This is the funniest thread I've read all year.

[Fighting_Lad]

makes perfect sense to me :rolleyes:

Hmm, this does explain why you behave and write so childishly - you're a small child according to that post.

[lkfmdc]

boy, am I upset, I came here to troll, and no one is taking me at all seriously, oh what to do!


you are not a good troll, you aren't even a good idiot, I suggest you just give up

[cjurakpt]

Are there any modern day masters that have actually been in a fight? Have people like BK Frantzis ever actually faught people? He looks cool in the book but has he ever actually been in a proper challenge match/fight on the street? Have any other modern day masters that u know of been in fights?

hey Hassenpfeffer,

when you go fishing in the ocean as opposed to a kiddie pool, you're going to at least need some better bait...


2.5 / 10

[Blacktiger]

All I can say is.....

Stuff the Da Vinci Code :D

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

RD enters the room:

"Ummm, what the Hell is going on in here?"


RD quietly looks around the room to assess the situation, then gets afraid...very Afraid...and slowly backs out of the room, turns and runs away with his hands flailing about, while shrieking in utter terror & total fear!

[Shaolin Wookie]

RD enters the room:

"Ummm, what the Hell is going on in here?"


RD quietly looks around the room to assess the situation, then gets afraid...very Afraid...and slowly backs out of the room, turns and runs away with his hands flailing about, while shrieking in utter terror & total fear!

What, did you see a UFO?:confused:


I mean, another one?

Thick Chicago accent to newsreporter on overpass: "It looked like a building knocked over on its side, flying through the air.....":D


Just kiddin'...........I'll never let you have that one.....:p

[Fighting_Lad]

Please, all of you stop trolling and answer my question.

[bodhitree]

I hear on youtube Frantis fights Mohammad Ali, whom he knocked off balance with a taiji push. happened just last week.

[Lucas]

Please, all of you stop trolling and answer my question.

answer:

yes.

thread over.

[Fighting_Lad]

answer:

yes.

thread over.

Hmm, not really Lucas. I don't think anyone's interested in yes-or-no type answers. Seeing as you've said yes, perhaps you'd like to expand?

Lucas knows that Frantzis has been in a fight, so could you please tell me about this fight.

Any other famous fights from contemporary masters?

[Lama Pai Sifu]

RD enters the room:

"Ummm, what the Hell is going on in here?"


RD quietly looks around the room to assess the situation, then gets afraid...very Afraid...and slowly backs out of the room, turns and runs away with his hands flailing about, while shrieking in utter terror & total fear!

Then he pulls out his +9 broadsword of Holy Boredom and slays the Wizard!

D&D Loser!

LOL

[IronWeasel]

Hmm, not really Lucas. I don't think anyone's interested in yes-or-no type answers. Seeing as you've said yes, perhaps you'd like to expand?

Lucas knows that Frantzis has been in a fight, so could you please tell me about this fight.

Any other famous fights from contemporary masters?



It took you almost a year to think of that comeback.

[Shaolinlueb]

i beat m bison a couple times. so yes i have been in many fights. shadow loo aint got sh*t on me.

[Lucas]

It took you almost a year to think of that comeback.

He had to go to get some schooling to find out what my answer meant. Took him a little while to figure it out.

[rogue]

What, did you see a UFO?:confused:

Naw, just Klingons on Uranus.

[rogue]

It took you almost a year to think of that comeback.

Naw, just low bandwidth.

[SimonM]

Fighting Lad still hasn't gotten his head caved in by an angry chav during his abortive vigilante ninja activity.

Pity.

[Fighting_Lad]

Wow you guys are really struggling to understand me here. In order to avoid further discussion about ninjas, klingons and m bison, I'll post my original questions again.

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Are there any modern day masters that have actually been in a fight? Have people like BK Frantzis ever actually faught people? He looks cool in the book but has he ever actually been in a proper challenge match/fight on the street? Have any other modern day masters that u know of been in fights?

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Notice I'm talking about real people like BK Frantzis not fictional people.

A key to understanding things like conversation etc. is to look at the question, and then create a response that matches the question.

I'll give an example - A "do you prefer oranges or apples?". Here are two potential answers to this question (1) "I have a red t-shirt" and (2) "I prefer oranges". (2) is by far the more suitable answer as it is not only related to the question, but also satisfies the ask of A.

So, if you guys have understood that, try to apply a similar process to my questions, and in fact questions in life. For instance, I asked "Have people like BK Frantzis ever actually faught people?". Instead of giving a (1)type answer about klingons etc. try to come up with a (2)type answer.

Of course, most of the people if not all who have offered (1)type answers are just ignorant and don't know the answers to my questions. That's fine if you fall into this category, but perhaps it would be better to (a) not answer at all, or (b) post your comments on a klingon-related forum.

So guys, give it another try. Here's another quick reminder about the subject matter just so you don't get confused and think this is about The Da Vinci Code or UFOs.

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Are there any modern day masters that have actually been in a fight? Have people like BK Frantzis ever actually faught people? He looks cool in the book but has he ever actually been in a proper challenge match/fight on the street? Have any other modern day masters that u know of been in fights?

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[bodhitree]

Takeshi/mega_fist/mega-foot/fighting lad

you are comic gold. Don't ever stop coming back!

[TenTigers]

answer: yes.

[Ray Pina]

West coast: BK Frantzis.... heard good things

East coast .... Master David Bond Chan..... best hands I've ever scene. Speed and power, of course, but the technique, the principles, unique and correct. And yes, he has fought a lot in his day. Though now he must be closer to 70 than 60.

[The Willow Sword]

BK Frantzis clips

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4u5zN69nBQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQViqc29G8I&feature=related


Naturally my interest perked up a bit considering that he is a Bagua Player. Dont know the answer to the question this Kid is asking.

Fighting Lad? Why not shoot him an email and ask him yourself?


Peace,TWS

[Fighting_Lad]

Ok but other people and real life fights? Frantzis vs. ........... etc. Who won? etc. Other masters vs. ..........? etc.

[Fighting_Lad]

lads???????

[brothernumber9]

Shi Guolin vs Shawn Liu aka Shi De Ru at the 2000 Taiji Legacy in front of the Jonie uniforms stand.

Winner by TKO: Shi Guolin by jaw crush 3:16.

[lkfmdc]

Shi Guolin vs Shawn Liu aka Shi De Ru at the 2000 Taiji Legacy in front of the Jonie uniforms stand.

Winner by TKO: Shi Guolin by jaw crush 3:16.

LMFAO! Yes, quite correct....

[GeneChing]

...but I'm no master.

I was in several 'fights' two weekends ago. I do volunteer work in event medicine and I lead a crew that specializes in restraining psychiatric patients. We use verbal first, but we go physical when necessary. Two weekends, we had about half a dozen physical restraints. Three of our crew were injured: one black eye, two were bitten (but one was only bitten in the jacket).

[Dale Dugas]

I can imagine the things you get to see brother.

I too worked security for large events and man oh man I wish I had a camera back then.

I actually get to restrain every month when one of the Alzheimer patients I work with gets upset and acts out. It is hard when the person does not even know they are doing what they doing.

I say prayers for them and the rest of the universe.

[GeneChing]

Plus you got that Iron Bod. I gave up on that practice long ago.

Sometimes I carry velcro restraints in my back pocket, but never a chain whip. ;)

[Lucas]

you must keep the whip chain in the front pocket....for the ninjettes.

[Eric Olson]

What's the point of the original question? As soon as someone says yes or no then there will be someone else to point out that they're wrong....flame war ensues.

I'd say this looks like a troll......2/10 mostly because it was so obvious. The trolls have really gone down in quality over the years. They used to be much better at provoking flame wars while staying under the radar:rolleyes:.

EO

[Fighting_Lad]

Eric Olson, I'd be lying if I said I respected you.

I ask a question regarding real life fighting experience of today's masters, and you accuse me of being a fearsome member of a mythical race from Norse mythology, and give me a rating out of 10.

I strongly feel your comments would be better suited to this forum http://www.writing.com/main/forums/item_id/908555

For everyone else, I'd love to hear of some more examples of real life matches between today's famous kung fu experts.

[Eric Olson]

Eric Olson, I'd be lying if I said I respected you.

I ask a question regarding real life fighting experience of today's masters, and you accuse me of being a fearsome member of a mythical race from Norse mythology, and give me a rating out of 10.

I strongly feel your comments would be better suited to this forum http://www.writing.com/main/forums/item_id/908555

For everyone else, I'd love to hear of some more examples of real life matches between today's famous kung fu experts.

-3.5........:rolleyes: You're just going to have to try harder to not be so obvious. People who've been on this forum for way to long (like myself0 are wise to blatant trolling. Maybe try a new pseudonym and be a little less obvious next time. Then start a thread about which is better MMA or [insert TMA of choice.]

Haha....

EO

[Fighting_Lad]

Eric Olson, yet again I'd be lying if I said I respected you.

I ask a question regarding real life fighting experience of today's masters, and you accuse me of being a fearsome member of a mythical race from Norse mythology again, and give me another rating out of 10.

Yet again, I strongly feel your comments would be better suited to this forum http://www.writing.com/main/forums/item_id/908555

For everyone else, I'd love to hear of some more examples of real life matches between today's famous kung fu experts.

[The Willow Sword]

I state agin that if you are wanting to know whether or not these guys you have querstions about have ever been in "real fights" then WHY DONT YOU SHOOT THEM AN EMAIL AND ASK THEM YOURSELF?

Im sure the response you would get would be the response you are looking for. Obviously you are not getting it here. Of course i am going to let you in on a little inside info here about the forums and "us" who have been here for a long time.

The Kinds of questions you are asking have been asked a multitude of times with the results turning into a Trolling flame war. SOme of us here actually think its quite fun and some of us here are sick and fukin tired of guys like you coming on here asking dumbfuk questions like this. Guess which group, out of the two, i am in?;)

Peace,TWS

[Kevin Huang]

Actually, I think that this is a legitimate question.

Those who've been in reality combat encounters think, move, and practice differently than those who haven't. That's not something that can be trained or taught.

That said, reality combat takes place on varying levels. 99.9999% happens BEFORE opponents lay hands on each other.

One's self esteem, physical condition, social standing, situational placement, world experience, knowledge of the law, and communicative ability are all factors in surviving reality combat encounters. These are things that kung fu DOES train, and it doesn't require a scarred streetfighter to impart wisdom on these issues.

For me, kung fu has been vitally important in helping me deal equitably with people I come into and my own personal issues. The physical combat portion (particularly when it comes to surviving reality combat) is only a part of the entire picture.

[Fighting_Lad]

Right, I sent an email to this guy who said he's a grandmaster, and he replied and said he once actually killed someone in a challenge match so I respect him a lot.

I was just wondering if any of you have any stories about the more famous contemporary masters?

[Kevin Huang]

No stories from me.

Killing people doesn't make a martial artist legitimate.

[Fighting_Lad]

Yeah but he only killed him because after the fight the other guy came up behind him with a bottle, so he had no choice but to kill him.

Anyway, aside from this he told me he's a grandmaster so I guess that's proof.

What about the other masters though?

[Yum Cha]

Yeah but he only killed him because after the fight the other guy came up behind him with a bottle, so he had no choice but to kill him.

Anyway, aside from this he told me he's a grandmaster so I guess that's proof.

What about the other masters though?

Boy, let your mamma watch out for your money...

[SimonM]

Come on guys, only feed the entertaining trolls.

[Ray Pina]

Are there any modern day masters that have actually been in a fight? Have people like BK Frantzis ever actually faught people? He looks cool in the book but has he ever actually been in a proper challenge match/fight on the street? Have any other modern day masters that u know of been in fights?


BK Frantzis is legit. I have it on good authority from my teacher, Master David Bond Chan. He's the real deal. He was throwing comers around when I was training with him, about 5 years ago. He was in his sixties then. I doubt he'll full on fight a challenger now, he's quite diplomatic, but I wouldn't put it past him.

I would say that Cartmel character in California sounds pretty good. I don't know if he's "fought" or not, but all evidence suggests he's training right. He has a high ranking in BJJ, which is what I would guess turned some more aggression on in his internal. He seems pretty dialed in and probably has lots of fighters around.

I would say my Master's "Kung Fu" is the foundation of what I take into fights. His shielding is great. His power generation is very good. But most of all its the thinking he's incorporated into me. Now everyone wants me to do it their way, and I do in boxing, at boxing I keep my mouth shut, but with kick boxers, I tell them straight out its stupid to try to block a kick that way. Or why should I cover the side of my head and take a hit when I could just as easily use my elbow to deflect it while delivering a strike of my own? They don't know what to say. Some I can see the eyes roll, like, right. Then I hit them with it and they say I'm just faster and stronger. At 34. With creeky football, surfing knees.

I'm fighting tomorrow night. I think someone will film. I'll post results.

[Lucas]

BK Frantzis is legit. I have it on good authority from my teacher, Master David Bond Chan. He's the real deal. He was throwing comers around when I was training with him, about 5 years ago. He was in his sixties then. I doubt he'll full on fight a challenger now, he's quite diplomatic, but I wouldn't put it past him.

I would say that Cartmel character in California sounds pretty good. I don't know if he's "fought" or not, but all evidence suggests he's training right. He has a high ranking in BJJ, which is what I would guess turned some more aggression on in his internal. He seems pretty dialed in and probably has lots of fighters around.

I would say my Master's "Kung Fu" is the foundation of what I take into fights. His shielding is great. His power generation is very good. But most of all its the thinking he's incorporated into me. Now everyone wants me to do it their way, and I do in boxing, at boxing I keep my mouth shut, but with kick boxers, I tell them straight out its stupid to try to block a kick that way. Or why should I cover the side of my head and take a hit when I could just as easily use my elbow to deflect it while delivering a strike of my own? They don't know what to say. Some I can see the eyes roll, like, right. Then I hit them with it and they say I'm just faster and stronger. At 34. With creeky football, surfing knees.

I'm fighting tomorrow night. I think someone will film. I'll post results.

I'm rootin for ya Ray. Break a leg (and not your own) ;)

[TenTigers]

I'm rootin for ya Ray. Break a leg (and not your own) ;)


I dunno. I saw that video of the kickboxer breaking his leg. I think you could possibly use it like a nunchaku.

[IronWeasel]

Wow you guys are really struggling to understand me here. In order to avoid further discussion about ninjas, klingons and m bison, I'll post my original questions again.

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Are there any modern day masters that have actually been in a fight? Have people like BK Frantzis ever actually faught people? He looks cool in the book but has he ever actually been in a proper challenge match/fight on the street? Have any other modern day masters that u know of been in fights?
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Yes.

[Lucas]

I dunno. I saw that video of the kickboxer breaking his leg. I think you could possibly use it like a nunchaku.

lol ya, those videos of arms and legs snapping in fights always make me cringe.

[Ray Pina]

Weighed in last night. The guy unfortunately looks game. Might have to put in a bit of work tonight.

[cjurakpt]

Weighed in last night. The guy unfortunately looks game. Might have to put in a bit of work tonight.

best of luck, we're all rootin' for ya man!

[qiphlow]

i prefer oranges.