pak hok pai min loi jam

[htowndragon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOTkv0o47RA

[diego]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec8DRin4hnA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzh_t7UxmH8&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5vBRUvBKEg

Is "Needle in cotton" a concept like move slow as seen in Tai Chi, or is it a combination of techniques?. Kaido has a similar form except half way through you speed up and run through it...like you move slow, needle in cotton, and then explode!.

[htowndragon]

thats interesting,
cause according to my sifu, ng yim mings hop ga does not have min loi jam, we have lama hei gung.

[lkfmdc]

Depending upon the lineage, different Tibetan/Lion's Roar martial arts have different approaches to internal

There are
the needle in cotton
the "dou lo sau"
18 Lo Han Gung
vajra (diamond body) gung

My opinion is that the dou lo sau is older than needle in cotton and that needle in cotton is derived from it.... probably originally short individual exercises that were strung into a set... probably in an attempt to mimic Taiji

There are at least 3 versions of needle in cotton, some have no visible "crane" element to them while others clearly try to play up the crane link

[diego]

Curious info yall:)
Peace

[doug maverick]

i love all the cool names of cma sets formula whatever.

[TongLongJai]

"My opinion is that the dou lo sau is older than needle in cotton "

if anyone come across clip much appreciated

dun u wish there was teh net in our days? although maybe we didnt train as hard if so hehe :p

its amazing what google and youtube share these days! LUCKY!