TenTigers
10-08-2007, 10:03 AM
ok, to pick up-when I was studying arts like Hapkido, Kenpo, and others, we learned techniques against many attacks that would never occur in real life.
We discussed the wrist grab-one, it being a left-over from fuedal times when someone would grab your sword-hand. Two-it being simply a beginner's learning tool, that should be disgarded after the student has a grasp on the technique in favor of more realistic training.
What other attacks did you learn defenses against, that you feel are not only invalid, but were a complete waste of time. Of course, when you were young and first learning these, you thought they were great.
1) The rear Frankenstien two-handed neck grab-see other thread
2-The Front Frankenstien two-handed neck grab-
in reality, it is almost never done standing, unless you are being pinned on your back. For the front standing, the neck choke and two-hand lapel grab are basically the same attack, and can be treated the same. I was taught so many techniques against this, but I dropped in favor of one or two that handle both effectively. This way there is no need to learn one for this, one for that, etc
3-the running tackle-big difference between this and a double leg takedown-in this case the guy is several feet away! Heck, just move. Sure there are techniques to take him down, butthey rely on him being right on top of you-why take the risk?
4-front bearhug around the waist,arms free. -WTF? This has never, ever happened to me in real life. Also, imagine for a moment you are an instructor, and you are teaching this to a child or young girl, or teen. Nope, nope, nope!
now, there are takedowns where you would do this, which is why having a good grappling curriculum is appropriate, but a standing bearhug?
what else can you guys come up with?
We discussed the wrist grab-one, it being a left-over from fuedal times when someone would grab your sword-hand. Two-it being simply a beginner's learning tool, that should be disgarded after the student has a grasp on the technique in favor of more realistic training.
What other attacks did you learn defenses against, that you feel are not only invalid, but were a complete waste of time. Of course, when you were young and first learning these, you thought they were great.
1) The rear Frankenstien two-handed neck grab-see other thread
2-The Front Frankenstien two-handed neck grab-
in reality, it is almost never done standing, unless you are being pinned on your back. For the front standing, the neck choke and two-hand lapel grab are basically the same attack, and can be treated the same. I was taught so many techniques against this, but I dropped in favor of one or two that handle both effectively. This way there is no need to learn one for this, one for that, etc
3-the running tackle-big difference between this and a double leg takedown-in this case the guy is several feet away! Heck, just move. Sure there are techniques to take him down, butthey rely on him being right on top of you-why take the risk?
4-front bearhug around the waist,arms free. -WTF? This has never, ever happened to me in real life. Also, imagine for a moment you are an instructor, and you are teaching this to a child or young girl, or teen. Nope, nope, nope!
now, there are takedowns where you would do this, which is why having a good grappling curriculum is appropriate, but a standing bearhug?
what else can you guys come up with?