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Ozihn
10-25-2001, 04:24 AM
Anyone know how to use them?

Kung Lek
10-25-2001, 04:30 AM
throw them :D

peace

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straight blast
10-25-2001, 04:39 AM
Don't ever believe the "ancient" way of throwing stars. By this I mean holding the star between your 1st & 2nd fingers at the knuckles and throwing in an overhand motion. My best buddy did that and embedded a star (home made) into his own leg. Slashed right down his muscle next to his shin. :D :D :D
Gotta watch that follow through. This doesn't tell you how to throw one, but I think that knowing how NOT to throw one is every bit as important.

"Through strength, learn gentleness. Through gentleness, strength will prevail"

honorisc
10-25-2001, 04:41 AM
throw them like a frisbee, throw them like a playing card, throw them like a dart...

Very some such, perhaps might have been, likely say some, some not.

Nutt'nhunny
10-25-2001, 04:41 AM
frisbee

jerk back like your hand hit something hot to add spin. Its all about spin. Frisbee is the best.

honorisc
10-25-2001, 04:44 AM
Your friend had bad coordinatin or timing, the method might still be good. Don't let incompetance sway you from a technique...unless you are the incompetant one.

Very some such, perhaps might have been, likely say some, some not.

EARTH DRAGON
10-25-2001, 05:14 AM
what you are reffering to is called a shuriken, they can be a lot of fun for target practice how ever real ones are extremly hard to find, they are hand made from surgical steel 880 steel with razor sharp points I have one made by nakura a famous sword maker from japan that I paid $187.00 for . The ones available in this country are stamped alloy and can be bent with your hand, they are crap and mostly used by kids. If you want real shurikens look online you might find some but make sure they are hand made.

http://www.kungfuUSA.net

IronFist
10-25-2001, 06:56 AM
$187?! Holy ****e. I know a guy that can make 9 for $60 or something, he makes them the way Stephen Hayes does. I was under the impression that "legit" (meaning old ones that ninja really used) weren't sharp on the edges... how would they carry them otherwise?

I don't even think shuriken were used for fighting really... more like they were thrown into walls to distract the enemy while escaping.

Other people have said that they would poison the tips and then if you got hit you'd get tetanus (rust poisoning), but how would you carry it then without it getting on you?

I wish the ancient ninja masters had kept better records of what they do, that way we wouldn't be so confused. Hehe :)

Iron

Ozihn
10-25-2001, 07:16 AM
Back in the day, when ninja's were the pimp Sh!t, medicine was so bad that rust was just as deadly as anything else. Oh, and they kept them in small leather pouches, like the ones cops keep handcuffs in, or on a belt. :D

Johnny Hot Shot
10-25-2001, 07:59 AM
Chinese Stars, Are really cool.
However stars are easy to use,you should try throwing knives or Straight shuriken.

Remeber Bruce Lee in "Return of the dragon" with those wooden darts?

My brother and I used to make all kinds of crazy ninja weponry when we were kids even caltrops. My Grandpa had a metal shop and tought us how to make... Swords! I just rememered the crazy sword I made.
I bet its still at my Gramps.

:D
Funny how I still love all that Ninja sh!t.

Where's A****hed Kim when you need him?

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Jacko Jackson

Shaolin36
10-25-2001, 06:07 PM
Masaaki Hasado(spelling)
He has a book out that shows how to throw stars. A good addition for the library and to learn espionage ninjitsu.

Shaolin36

wu_de36
10-25-2001, 07:21 PM
You might also want to get your hands on Michael Echanis' "Knife Fighting, Knife Throwing For Combat (Special Forces/Ranger-UDT/Seal/H2H Combat/Special Weapons/Special Tactics Series)

Not easy to find, but some good stuff on throwing there.

I second the Hatsumi book. Pananandata Knife Throwing by Amonte P. Marinas Sr. is good as well.

nightair
10-25-2001, 08:47 PM
I use them to hold up posters in my room. :rolleyes:

DOH!!

honorisc
10-26-2001, 03:38 AM
What does shuri mean of shuriken? What does ken mean of shuriken?

What is something called shaken?

Very some such, perhaps might have been, likely say some, some not.

Kristoffer
10-26-2001, 12:23 PM
throwing daggers are cooler! I think it was the samurais that used "spikes", about a fore-arm long of steel. about 1 kg :eek: they could penetrate armor like a knife through butter :D (yeah they threw them)

~K~
"maybe not in combat..... but think of the chicks man, the chicks!"

Drache
10-26-2001, 06:00 PM
Does anyone know the "original" or best shape for a throwing star?

~Drache~

Nutt'nhunny
10-26-2001, 10:54 PM
shuri= back hand
ken=sword.

Best are the darts or knife looking ones. The stars snagged on clothing and werent used as much.

They were a harrassing or distracting weapon. They would also throw 5 or more at once to make their escape. They were thrown to maim for escaping or distracing purposes. They had blow guns for stealth kills.

SevenStar
10-27-2001, 06:22 AM
ken = "sword"? I was always taught that it was "fist"

sword components
mune = back of sword
ha = cutting edge of sword
hi = grooves of sword
iaito = dull metal practice sword
jihada = edge steel
kissaki = point
boshi = tempered point

types of swords
daito
katana
wakizashi
tachi

I've never heard "ken" refer to a sword, but I could be wrong...

"Just because I joke around sometimes doesn't mean I'm serious about kung-fu.
" - nightair

Longquan
10-27-2001, 06:37 AM
'nuff said.

Pointy
10-27-2001, 04:49 PM
Which is which? I mean I've seen in some books that stars are being called shoken and the straight dartlike is shuriken and sometimes it is the other way around. Or is there any difference?

Oh yeah, and I too remember making some ninja weapons with my brother when we were young. We used all kinds of old scrap metal parts from around our uncles farm and welded some really lethal stuff. Our guardian angels have propably got some gray hair and worked overtime saving us from accidents.

Do you remember some American ninja where the guy was making some weapons for himself. Swords by just using the standard power tools without any smithing and such. It's pretty hilarious...

"Pain is only natures way of telling you're in terrible agony"

Kristoffer
10-27-2001, 09:57 PM
http://www.aikidofaq.com/bilder/humor/wacky.gif.html


hehe

~K~
"maybe not in combat..... but think of the chicks man, the chicks!"

GeneChing
05-20-2015, 12:32 PM
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GeneChing
07-19-2021, 08:47 AM
81-year-old carries on a Filipino martial arts tradition (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/81-year-old-carries-on-a-filipino-martial-arts-tradition/2021/07/18/52769c98-e7c8-11eb-a2ba-3be31d349258_story.html)
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Amante P. Marinas, 81, teaches students a type of martial art known as Pananandata at his Spotsylvania County, Va., home on Tuesday, July 6, 2021. Marinas has been practicing the technique since he was eight-years-old. (Peter Cihelka/The Free Lance-Star via AP)
By Rob Hedelt, The Free Lance-Star | AP
July 18, 2021|Updated yesterday at 9:01 a.m. EDT

SPOTSYLVANIA, Va. — When he was growing up in the Philippines, Amante Mariñas was fascinated with watching his great uncle practice martial arts.

At 8 years old, Mariñas began to learn the movements and forms of the long-pole martial art of pananandata. Working alongside his uncle, he came to believe that such workouts were important to his mind and body.

Mariñas is 81 now, and on a good day, puts in three to four hours working out in his Spotsylvania County backyard. There, he deliberately practices hand-fighting, as well as martial arts with a long pole and short sticks, throwing knives, an ax, a blow gun and a bow and arrow.

The discipline and work ethic he hewed to as a chemical engineer means he not only works out each day, but keeps a log of every minute spent—and every knife, ax and arrow sent into targets.

“I’ve thrown knives close to 1.5 million times, and shot the blowgun 800,000 times,” he said.

Mariñas moved from his native country to New York City in 1973, moving on from the long pole discipline of his great uncle to other fighting styles using different weapons. He taught himself those new disciplines, seeking out whatever sources existed to help him in his instructional journey.

“I learned how to throw knives in my basement in Staten Island,” he said. “There, I had to throw sidearm so it didn’t hit the ceiling.

Before long, he was teaching other people who were drawn to his workouts at Flushing Meadows Park in Queens. Seven of his books on martial arts have been published since moving to this area in 1997, and they detail styles of Filipino martial arts not fully covered before. They include “The Art of Throwing,” “Blowgun Techniques,” and “Archery for Beginners.”

Mariñas continues to give private lessons in pananandata, which he said is a fighting system from Central Luzon in the Philippines.

He’s had more than 100 articles published in martial arts magazines, some featuring photos of him and his son, Amante Jr., a New York City police detective.

I visited Mariñas recently at his home, where he showed me the workout and practice stations he’s created in his backyard. He uses hanging pieces of wood and large soda bottles as targets for his long pole and short sticks, and there are targets for knives, axes and arrows safely tucked around the yard.

“The notes I kept in learning and practicing each of the disciplines were invaluable in writing the books,” he said. “After the first one or two, I kind of had learned the process.”

Mariñas said that once he moved to Spotsylvania County—his sons had attended the University of Mary Washington and he had other relatives in the area—word got out that he taught martial arts and students sought him out.

“I now teach one or two students at a time, here in my backyard,” he said. “Most of my students are retired officers of some type, one a retired police captain, another a U.S. Army vet, still another a retired air marshal.”

He keeps teaching and writing because he likes to pass along what he’s learned, and because he’s been lonely since his wife died of cancer a few years ago. He also enjoys the company.

His students call him “Po,” an honorific for an older person in the Philippines, and he doesn’t just see them as students.

“I treat them as friends, and look forward to them coming to learn,” he said.

He’s taught some students for a long time—one woman has been with him since 2000.

Mariñas said he had a group of air marshals come to learn to use extendable batons, and a police captain who wanted to learn disarming techniques—all skills in his martial arts wheelhouse.

“We have fun, as I will challenge them at times, telling them that if they stick four knives in a row, I’ll treat them to coffee,” he said laughing. “Then they come back at me and ask if two hits will get them half a cup.”

He even designed his own style of throwing knife, and said he has several finished manuscripts he still wants to get published on fighting styles and weapons he hasn’t fully covered yet.

“I’d like to get to having 20 books published. I’m a half dozen or so short of that now,” he said. “I hope that works out, but if the manuscripts I’ve finished don’t get published, I’ll just leave them to my grandchildren. I enjoy the writing and it keeps me sharp.”

I can attest to that after watching the spry 81-year-old going through his workout, despite an infected left hand that kept him from hitting the bullseye with an arrow.

But he came pretty darned close, and a follow-up shot found dead center despite pain from holding the bow.

“I’ll get this fixed up and be back on target again soon,” he said.

Amante Mariñas wrote several articles on throwing weapons for Kung Fu Tai Chi over the years.
See:
1994 Spring (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/index.php?p=magazine&article=268)
1994 Summer (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/index.php?p=magazine&article=270)
2008 May/June (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/index.php?p=magazine&article=758)
January + February 2016 (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/index.php?p=magazine&article=1269)
Winter 2019 (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/index.php?p=magazine&article=1446)


Pananandata Knife Throwing by Amonte P. Marinas Sr. is good as well.

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