Busted Martial Artists [Archive] - Page 2

GeneChing

11-19-2008, 04:21 PM

Sorry, couldn't resist that pun. I'm a little confused on the Andrew/Matthew thing, but it doesn't really matter.

Couple admit martial arts studio break-ins (http://www.recordcourier.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081119/NEWS/811189959/1062&ParentProfile=1049&title=Couple%20admit%20martial%20%20arts%20studio% 20break-ins)
Staff Reports

A 19-year-old Army specialist and his wife pleaded guilty Monday in connection with several break-ins at a Gardnerville martial arts studio.
Amanda Golden, also 19, pleaded guilty to attempted burglary. According to the plea agreement with the district attorney’s office, she may be sentenced to probation with a recommendation of one year in Douglas County Jail.
Andrew Golden pleaded guilty to burglary and faces up to 10 years in Nevada State Prison and a $10,000 fine.
The couple was accused of breaking into Northwest Martial Arts while the soldier was home on leave.
According to the criminal complaint, Matthew Golden and an individual identified as “A.W.” broke into Northwest Martial Arts between Oct. 3-5 and took cash, credit cards and checks worth $5,500.
He allegedly returned Oct. 13-15 with Amanda Golden and she took at least $400 in cash.
According to the complaint, Matthew Golden drove Amanda to the Gardnerville studio and waited in a car while she pried open a door with a credit card or a knife.
On Oct. 15, the owner of the studio, believing the burglars would strike again, was at the facility and detained Amanda Golden until deputies arrived.
Amanda Golden called her mother from jail, admitted the attempted break-in, and told her that Matthew drove away when the deputies arrived and stranded her in the parking lot, according to audiotapes from the jail’s telephone system.
He was arrested and reportedly admitted the burglaries were his idea and that he drove the getaway car in previous burglaries, according to investigators.
He told District Judge Michael Gibbons on Monday he and “A.W.” first took $1,500 they spent on alcohol and hotel rooms.
Gibbons refused to release Golden on his own recognizance.
His lawyer, Tod Young, said Golden would live with his mother in Carson City and work to earn money toward restitution.
Young called Golden’s status in the Army “tenuous.”
“There is no hold from the Army,” Young said.
Prosecutor Laurie Trotter objected to any change in bail.
“These are very serious charges,” she said.
“We will be asking for prison. He was released on annual leave and failed to report to the Army. He is AWOL or some similar status.”

TenTigers

11-19-2008, 04:38 PM

"according to audiotapes from the jail’s telephone system."

I'm a bit concerned about that part. I mean, I understand if someone was arrested and then called his cohorts and said,"Get me outta here. Bring rocket launchers. The sherriff has his wife pick him up around back. Wait for her there..."
but, If you are calling your lawyer, isn't that a breach in confidentiality or something?

GeneChing

11-24-2008, 10:26 AM

'steroidal maniac' is a pretty good clue. :rolleyes:

Closing arguments at Collins assault trial (http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1124/collinss.html)
watch listen Monday, 24 November 2008 16:21

The jury in the trial of former world boxing champion Steve Collins will begin considering its verdict tomorrow.

Closing arguments from the prosecution and defence were heard this afternoon.

42-year-old Mr Collins of St Albans, Hertfordshire, England, denies assaulting Adriatik Voda in June 2006 after he was refused entry through a VIP entrance.
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After Mr Collins gave evidence today, the court heard from a doctor on duty on the night who described Mr Voda as menacing with a capability of violence.

The head of internal security at the stadium said he had intervened to usher Mr Collins in but was pushed out of the way by Mr Voda, who placed his hands on Mr Collins's chest.

He said he did not see Mr Collins punch with a fist but did see him hit Mr Voda.

In closing arguments prosecuting counsel Sean Gillane said it was a straightforward case. He said: 'One man had an injury to his hand, the other man had an injury to his mouth. What does that suggest to you about who the aggressor was?'

Mr Gillane said despite Mr Collins's claims in the witness box that he had been attacked by a steroidal maniac, he made no complaint about this and was instead concerned that he did not know who he was.

He suggested Mr Collins was making it up as he went along, and urged the jury to convict him of assault.

However defence counsel Martin Dully urged the jury to treat Mr Voda's evidence with caution and scepticism.

He said no complaint was made to gardaí on the night but instead a number of days later.

He said the evidence from some witnesses described him as an aggressive, menacing, self-regarding bouncer who was more interested in establishing his own authority than actually doing his job correctly.

He said he had ignored an instruction from the head of security to admit Mr Collins and was obsessed with not admitting him.

Mr Dully said CCTV footage showed a hand repeatedly pushing Mr Collins, who was entitled to defend himself.

He told the jury Mr Collins had been charged with a serious criminal offence and the jury could not be satisfied on the evidence to convict him.

Collins says he used martial arts move

Earlier at the trial, Mr Collins told the court he used a martial arts self defence manoeuvre on the doorman but did not punch him.

Mr Collins told the jury he knew what he was talking about when it came to self defence.

He said he had learned from a martial arts expert in California and used a special technique to break the doorman's grip on him but did not punch him.

He said Mr Voda had thumped him in the chest and was making another lunge at him when he had to defend himself.

Mr Gillane asked him to step outside the boxing ring and use common sense.

He said what Mr Collins was suggesting was preposterous and told Mr Collins the only attack was the one on his ego.

He accused Mr Collins of being upset because Mr Voda did not know who he was.

Mr Collins denied this but accepted it was possible he could have told an ambulance man 'the Russian hasn't a clue who I am'.

I'm changing the thread title from Busted Teachers to Busted Martial Artists since it has evolved in scope.

sanjuro_ronin

11-24-2008, 10:35 AM

As a former bouncer I know this:
You don't put your hands on someone's chest unless you are willing to escalate it.

GeneChing

11-24-2008, 10:36 AM

More on Darrell Lewis (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=895553&postcount=246). Anyone here attend the NBL Super Grands in 2001?

Martial arts teacher faces more charges (http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_11059577)
By Adriana M. Chávez / El Paso Times
Posted: 11/24/2008 12:00:00 AM MST

EL PASO -- A man who allegedly assaulted and threatened an El Paso County sheriff's deputy earlier this month is the focus of Manhunt Monday, wanted on a probation violation.

On Nov. 11, Darrell Lewis, 25, of the 7900 block of La Jolla, was stopped by a deputy on Interstate 10 East near mile marker 33. Sheriff's spokesman Deputy Jesse Tovar said during the stop, the deputy noticed the driver seemed nervous and acted suspiciously.

After the deputy told Lewis to get out of his vehicle for questioning, Lewis allegedly assaulted the deputy and ran off. The deputy chased Lewis and, after a brief struggle, took him into custody.

Additional deputies who arrived at the scene searched Lewis' vehicle and found 58 pounds of marijuana hidden in duffel bags on the back seat. Lewis was charged with possession of marijuana more than 50 pounds and less than 2,000 pounds and with assault on a public servant. He was booked into the El Paso County jail and later released on $35,000 bond.

Tovar said because of the Nov. 11 arrest, Lewis violated probation stemming from an October 2007 marijuana possession charge.

Two weeks ago, a caution advisory was issued to area law enforcement officers about Lewis.

According to El Paso Times archives, Lewis participated in the National Blackbelt League Super Grands in 2001, a world championship competition, and won titles in open weapons, musical weapons and musical forms.

At the time of his arrest, Lewis told deputies he was an instructor at an East Side martial arts academy. The academy's owners said Lewis only worked there during the summer months. Tovar said Lewis continues to work as an instructor and has contact with children.

Anyone with information on Lewis' whereabouts is asked to call 546-2280 or Crime Stoppers of El Paso at 566-8477.

Adriana M. Chávez may be reached at achavez@elpasotimes.com,546-6117.

GeneChing

11-24-2008, 10:46 AM

Probably just some dude with two swords. :rolleyes:

Sword-wielding man slain at Scientology center (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/24/BAR014AQJ4.DTL&hw=scientology+sword&sn=001&sc=1000)
Associated Press
Monday, November 24, 2008

(11-24) 04:00 PST Los Angeles -- A security guard shot and killed a man wielding two samurai swords Sunday on the grounds of a Scientology building in Hollywood, police said.

The unidentified man approached three guards around noon in the parking lot of the Scientology Celebrity Centre, Los Angeles Police Deputy Chief Terry S. Hara said.

The man was "close enough to hurt them" when one of the guards shot him, Hara said.

Detectives were questioning the guard to figure out the swordsman's motive and determine whether the shooting was justified. Surveillance tape showed the man arriving at the Celebrity Centre's parking lot in a red convertible, then approaching the guards with a sword in each hand, Hara said.

"The evidence itself, it's very, very clear," Hara said. "The security officers were defending their safety."

Detective Wendi Berndt told the Los Angeles Times the man was involved with the church a long time ago.

"There was a previous relationship, but it is unclear to what degree," Berndt said.

Calls to Scientology spokespeople were not immediately returned Sunday.

The Celebrity Centre includes a seven-story Norman-revival landmark that towers over the Hollywood freeway and used to be a residential hotel for movie stars.

The castle-like facility now serves as "a home for the artist, a place where he can come and learn, attend seminars, meet other artists and even perform at our many showcases and events," according to the Centre's Web site.

The Church of Scientology was established in 1945 by science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard. It teaches that technology can expand the mind and help solve problems and claims 10 million members around the world, including celebrity devotees Tom Cruise and John Travolta.

GeneChing

11-24-2008, 10:48 AM

Dang - four reports on the newsfeeds this Monday morning. :(

'Martial arts gang' in expat kidnap probe (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/nov/23/uk-crime-spain)

A group of British 'martial arts experts' are being questioned by police after a foiled kidnap and extortion attempt on an expatriate in southern Spain.

Shoppers in the resort of Tarifa rescued the British victim as he was being bundled into a jeep by four men outside a supermarket. The suspects were arrested at a roadblock last Thursday on their way to the Strait of Gibraltar.

Spanish detectives believe the group, who they describe as 'martial arts experts who belong to a criminal organisation', travelled from the UK on the orders of a criminal paymaster who had been attempting to force the victim to transfer £100,000 into British bank accounts. Spanish police said the victim was 'a law-abiding man' without criminal links, but would not say why he was targeted or release his name.

A spokesman for Spain's Civil Guard said: 'The victim had been the object of a campaign of extortion. When he refused, the person demanding the money hired four British men to obtain the cash by kidnapping him.' Investigators said they believed the gang planned to fly back to Britain on Friday after carrying out the kidnap. Details of the four men, aged between 40 and 55, have been passed to British detectives.

GeneChing

11-26-2008, 10:19 AM

Sakai was listed here on posts 54 (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=823524&postcount=54) & 84 (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=831392&postcount=84)

Martial-Arts Manic Who Twice Killed In B’klyn, Found Guilty Again (http://www.brooklyneagle.com/categories/category.php?category_id=4&id=24774)
by Associated Press (), published online 11-25-2008

NEW YORK (AP) — A former Sunset Park bouncer who has already been sentenced to life in prison for two Brooklyn murders has been convicted of shooting another man dead and wounding three others outside a Manhattan nightclub.

A jury found 32-year-old Stephen Sakai guilty Friday of murder, attempted murder and assault. He again faces life in prison at his sentencing, set for Dec. 15. Sakai testified he feared he would die during a fight outside Chelsea’s Opus 22 club in May 2006. Sakai, a martial-arts zealout, said he took a gun off one of the four and started firing.

The shooting stemmed from Sakai’s argument with one victim who insisted on waiting for his girlfriend to return from the ladies’ room after the club had closed. The incident left one dead, another paralyzed from the chest down and two with less serious wounds.

GeneChing

12-01-2008, 11:05 AM

Took the contract money and ran. What a fool. Contracts go both ways.

Martial arts studio owner being sued (http://www.indystar.com/article/20081128/LOCAL01/811280309)
Business owner failed to give refunds, customers say
By Katie Merlie
Posted: November 28, 2008

The owner of martial arts studios that operated in Hamilton and Boone counties is facing a civil lawsuit over customers' claims that they failed to get refunds after the business closed.

Jonathan Stowe, whose last listed address is in Westfield, is the owner of Champion Martial Arts, which once had studios in Carmel, Noblesville and Zionsville. He is being sued in an action brought by the state attorney general.
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According to Attorney General Steve Carter, Stowe solicited and entered into multi-year contracts with the 19 customers listed in the lawsuit filed in Hamilton County.

"It is unfortunate for the people involved that their efforts to engage in a healthy and constructive extracurricular activity and learning experience ended up in conflict, leaving them without the services they paid for in full," Carter said.

The investigation revealed that contract amounts ranged from $2,900 to $5,760 and that many customers paid up to $2,210 in additional program fees. Carter said Stowe used the money to pay personal expenses, lease a new vehicle and vacation in the Caribbean.

A message left at the office of Stowe's attorney, Daniel Sandlin, was not answered.

Earlier this year, Laura Gagnon, 36, Noblesville, signed up her 4-year-old son Christian at Champion Martial Arts. She and his father paid $3,600 for a two-year membership.

Six weeks after classes began, a representative from Champion persuaded the Gagnons to pay another $460 toward Christian's promotions as he progressed over the next two years.

But in September the classes stopped, the Noblesville studio was closed, and Gagnon couldn't get her phone calls returned. Within a month, all three studios were closed.

Gagnon said she called the Attorney General's office in mid-October to file a complaint.

"I'm happy they've filed the lawsuit; I want to put a stop to what this man is doing to people," said Gagnon, who has never met Stowe.

Carter said this isn't the first time Stowe has been accused of misleading customers. His office filed a lawsuit against Stowe in 2006, and Stowe later agreed to refund $20,000 to customers in Mishawaka.

Gagnon said she hopes she and the other families involved get justice.

"I would like to get my money back, but I know that it's gone," Gagnon said. "I just want to make sure this stops happening."

GeneChing

12-08-2008, 10:33 AM

Pretty much the opposite?! There's your problem right there. It's completely the opposite of what we teach!

Bend martial arts teachers react to sex-case sentence (http://www.ktvz.com/Global/story.asp?S=9467965)
Posted: Dec 5, 2008 06:09 PM

Former instructor chatted online with 'girl' who was undercover agent

By Jennifer Burns, KTVZ.COM

"It was a big surprise when you turn on the TV in the morning and see something like that going on," said Robert Gregory, a former co-worker of Todd Barton Campbell and co-owner of Bend's Martial Arts Center.

Two recent arrests in the martial arts community, and now the sentencing of one of them, has shocked instructors.

"When you see something like that happen, it kind of puts a stain on everybody in the martial arts community," Gregory said Friday.

Campbell, 38, was sentenced Thursday in Portland federal court to 18 months in prison, more than four months after his guilty plea to the crime of transferring obscene materials to a minor. He has to surrender to federal prison officials on Jan. 5, and will serve three years of supervised release after his time behind bars.

Campbell admitted that in 2006 he sent an FBI agent, posing as a 13-year-old girl, pictures of himself naked. Later, he tried to lure the "teen" to meet him.

"Inside the school, he was completely professional - that's why it kind of shocked everybody to see that," said Gregory.

Campbell worked closely with children, but co-workers say they never saw signs of such issues.

"That's pretty much the opposite of what we teach," said Kristina Knittle, co-owner of Sorter Bushido Kai Karate.

Last February, Bend martial arts instructor Mark Froelich, who owned Karate for Kids in Bend, was arrested on rape charges involving a 15-year-old student. He is set to go to trial Feb. 10 on 27 sex abuse charges.

"It was just kind of heart-wrenching to know that some of the kids who were at the first school training moved over to Karate for Kids and went there to continue training, and had it happened to them a second time," Knittle said.

Other instructors say Froelich offered lessons when no one else was in the building, something many other schools do not allow.

"It upsets me a lot," Gregory said. "Especially as a teacher. you have students who are looking up to you, you have parents who trust you."

They say they are taking action to regain the community's trust, requiring more training and rigorous background checks.

"If we prevent situations from even being possible, if nobody is ever alone with a child," Knittle said. "We just need to be aware of how to keep kids safe all the time. And that is on the top of our priority list - then it's near impossible to happen."

GeneChing

12-08-2008, 10:41 AM

This story has been huge in our area because it's so horrible, so I'm disheartened to see it take this turn. To have "martial arts sticks" reflects so poorly upon us, as if martial arts sticks are a cause, or at least aid and abet, such crimes. If it was nunchuks (http://www.martialartsmart.net/Nunchakus.html), that'd be different. But martial arts sticks (http://www.martialartsmart.net/Staffs_Batons.html)could be anything - a cut hardwood dowel is a martial arts stick.

Docs: Woman Hit Teen With Martial Arts Sticks (http://www.kcra.com/news/18213031/detail.html)
Teen Escaped From Tracy Home In Shackles
POSTED: 11:46 am PST December 5, 2008

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- A probation officer's report from last year details a woman's alleged egregious abuse of two boys, one of whom escaped Monday from a Tracy home in shackles.

Caren Ramirez, 43, was taken into custody Tuesday in connection with abuse of the teen.

Kelly Layne Lau and husband Michael Schumacher, of Tracy, were charged with 13 counts of abuse and former guardian Ramirez, whom the boy called an aunt, was charged with 10 counts.

The boy's relation to Ramirez is unclear. Authorities had earlier identified Ramirez as the boy's aunt but said Thursday they had learned she was a family friend that he called his aunt. Probation documents show that Ramirez claims to be the teen's mother, but the San Joaquin County District Attorney's Office said that is not a fact. The office also said that there is no DNA or biological relationship between Ramirez and the teen.

The documents show that the boy, then 13, told officers from the Sacramento County Sheriff's Department that Ramirez had used martial arts sticks to spank him.

"He further explained the defendant has also hit him with a spatula, broomstick and a clothes hanger in the past," the report said.

The report was taken after deputies responded to a child abuse report on May 30, 2006 at a Citrus Heights home.

The teen showed signs of bruising on his buttocks, legs, arms and had a split or swollen lip, sheriff's deputies said in the document. He also told officers that Ramirez gets angry at times and takes her anger out on him.

The report said Ramirez told officials that she suffers from depression and anxiety attacks and took Zoloft for her condition.

Another boy named in the document, who was 16 at the time, told officers that Ramirez had hit him with a martial arts stick approximately five times in the head. That teen also told officers that earlier that day, Ramirez had told him to "panhandle" for her, and that he started hitting him because he didn't get enough money.

Ramirez had become the Tracy boy's guardian after child-welfare officials took him from his abusive father three or four years ago, police said. After Ramirez was arrested on suspicion of abusing the boy, the youth was placed in another foster home, police said.

A CPS worker reported that the boy ran away from the Sacramento Children's Receiving Home and was missing since May 9, 2007.

Police said Wednesday that the boy detailed his escape from the home, telling investigators he found a brief moment of freedom to slip out the back of the house and jump over a fence that divided the couple's property with a fitness center.

He limped into the gym with a chain shackled to his leg, wearing only boxer shorts and pleading for help. Gym employees contacted paramedics and police.

The teen's older brother, identfied only as Austin, told KCRA 3 he'll fight to get full custody of the boy.

GeneChing

12-17-2008, 06:49 PM

There's a vid on the first report's site with a news report.

Local Martial Arts Instructor Sentenced on Indecent Liberties Charges (http://www.wnct.com/nct/news/local/article/local_martial_arts_instructor_sentenced_on_indecen t_liberties_charges/26571/)
By Philip Jones
Reporter
Published: December 17, 2008

He took advantage of the children he taught and now a local martial arts instructor will be spending more than a decade behind bars.

Christopher Smith, 34, of Jacksonville pleaded guilty to a number of charges in Onslow County Superior Court.

Nine On Your Side’s Philip Jones breaks down what will keep Smith locked up for so long:

Not long after he was arrested in June 2007, Christopher Smith sold his tae kwon do studio on Piney Green Road in Jacksonville.

After pleading guilty Tuesday to four counts of indecent liberties with a child and one count of second degree sex offense, Smith will now spend the next 12-15 years in prison paying the price for what he did there.

Investigators say over a four-year period from June 2003 to May 2007, Smith either exposed himself to or inappropriately touched both male and female children who were students here at his tae kwon do school.

But the problems didn’t stop there.

In fact, the investigation into Smith began after deputies got word from a parent last June that Smith took indecent liberties with an eight-year-old girl at a swimming pool in Smith’s backyard.

One young victim’s father declined our request for an interview Wednesday—but it’s easy to understand why he’s upset a man trusted to teach self-defense took advantage of several defenseless children.http://www.jdnews.com/news/smith_61184___article.html/offenders_sex.html

Once Smith gets out of prison, he’ll have to register as a sex offender.

He will also be subject to satellite-based monitoring for the rest of his life

Martial arts instructor sentenced to 12 to 15 years in prison
December 16, 2008 - 6:34 PM
LINDELL KAY

A Jacksonville martial arts instructor pleaded guilty Tuesday to several counts of molesting male and female students under the age of 10 and was sentenced to 12 to 15 years in prison.

Christopher Aaron Smith, 34, of Broadleaf Drive, pleaded guilty in Onslow Superior Court to second-degree sex offense and four counts of indecent liberties with a minor. When his active prison sentence expires, he will have to spend two years on intensive probation, register as a sex offender and submit to satellite monitoring for life, according to a ruling by Superior Court Judge Jack Hooks Jr.

Authorities say Smith molested two girls under the age of 10 while they were students at his Tae Kwon Do academy at 1368 Piney Green Road. He removed their clothes, touched them inappropriately and exposed his private parts to them. He also exposed himself to other students in the bathroom of his business, according to statements made in court and court documents.

After Smith was arrested by the Onslow County Sheriff's Department in June 2007 on charges of molesting the two girls, a third victim, a boy who was under the age of 6 when Smith molested him, came forward. Prosecutors said Smith repeatedly molested the boy from June 2003 until August 2004. Smith put his hands down the boy's underpants and touched his genitals, warrants state.

The boy, also a student of Smith's, told his parents about Smith molesting him during martial arts classes, authorities said.

"He talked to his dad, and the dad called the detective and the detective took over the case," Sheriff Ed Brown said.

Sheriff's Sgt. John Getty arrested Smith again a few days later and charged him with a slew of other child molestation charges.

"After what he did, I hope that he does not get out," a family member of one of Smith's victims told The Daily News. "I mean I hope true justice is done."

Smith will be subject to new state laws that took effect Dec. 1.

Those laws include the requirement that registered sex offenders report to the local sheriff's office in person within three days of moving to a new home. The offender will also have to provide authorities with written notification of address changes, changes to academic status or employment status at colleges and universities and intent to move out of state.

Registered sex offenders are prohibited from accessing commercial social networking Web sites that permit minors to become members or maintain personal Web pages. Offenders are forbidden from legally changing their names.

And offenders whose victims were younger than 16 are prohibited from being within 300 feet of schools, children's museums, child care centers, nurseries and playgrounds.

TenTigers

12-17-2008, 09:36 PM

what I find the most disturbing is that there seem to be alot of kid touchers that are MA instructors.
If this keeps up there will jokes like, "Half Nelson, Full Nelson, Sensei Nelson!":eek:

GeneChing

12-19-2008, 01:14 PM

This isn't particularly more informative than the previous post. The newsfeeds are dominated by Justin Levens (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?p=902147)right now.

Martial arts teacher in Onslow sentenced to prison for molesting children (http://www.newbernsj.com/news/molesting_43258___article.html/arts_onslow.html)
December 18, 2008 - 8:19 PM
By Lindell Kay
Freedom ENC

JACKSONVILLE -- A Jacksonville martial arts instructor has been sentenced to 12 to 15 years in prison for molesting male and female students under age 10.

Christopher Aaron Smith, 34, of Broadleaf Drive pleaded guilty in Onslow Superior Court to second-degree sex offense and four counts of indecent liberties with a minor. When his active prison sentence ends, he will have to spend two years on intensive probation, register as a sex offender and submit to satellite monitoring for life, according to a ruling by Superior Court Judge Jack Hooks Jr.

Authorities say Smith molested two girls under the age of 10 while they were students at his tae kwon do academy at 1368 Piney Green Road. He removed their clothes, touched them inappropriately and exposed his private parts to them. He also exposed himself to other students in the bathroom of his business, according to statements made in court and court documents.

After Smith was arrested by the Onslow County Sheriff's Department in June 2007 on charges of molesting the two girls, a third victim, a boy who was under the age of 6 when Smith molested him, came forward. Prosecutors said Smith repeatedly molested the boy from June 2003 until August 2004.

The boy, also a student of Smith's, told his parents about Smith molesting him, authorities said.

"He talked to his dad, and the dad called the detective and the detective took over the case," Sheriff Ed Brown said.

Sheriff's Sgt. John Getty arrested Smith again a few days later and charged him with a number of other child molestation charges.

GeneChing

01-05-2009, 06:14 PM

Remember Ung (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=873668&postcount=172)?

Martial arts instructor pleads guilty to solicitation of murder (http://www.hollandsentinel.com/news/x131780661/Martial-arts-instructor-pleads-guilty-to-solicitation-of-murder)
By MEGAN SCHMIDT
The Holland Sentinel
Posted Dec 29, 2008 @ 04:50 PM
Last update Dec 30, 2008 @ 11:14 AM
Ottawa County, MI —

A Holland martial arts instructor who was arrested in July for hiring a hit man to kill his former girlfriend pleaded guilty in Ottawa County Circuit Court on Monday, Dec. 29.

Eang Ung, 42, will serve a minimum of three-and-a-half years and a maximum of five years, 10 months in prison for the charge of solicitation of murder.

After recording several conversations between Ung and an undercover officer whom Ung believed to be a hit man, police said he gave the officer money, a photograph of his ex-girlfriend and directions to her home on July 15.

Ung, who owns Ung’s Martial Arts, 143 N. River Ave., was arrested the next day.

In court Monday, Ung pleaded guilty to the same charge he received at his arraignment in district court in July.

He did not plead to a lesser charge, however a solicitation of murder charge can carry up to a life sentence.

Ung will be sentenced in circuit court March 2 at 10 a.m.

At Ung’s martial arts school on Monday, the building was empty and dark, with little furniture inside and evidence that signs have been removed from doors.

Dale Dugas

01-05-2009, 08:02 PM

hope his skills help him in the shower in the big house............................................. .......................:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::e ek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

GeneChing

01-08-2009, 10:34 AM

Anyone across the pond know Richard Mumford?

Martial arts expert accused of raping nurse (http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/2042491_martial_arts_expert_accused_of_raping_nurs e)
8/1/2009

A FORMER national martial arts competitor raped a woman in a kitchen while her baby son was in the next room, a crown court trial has been told.

The alleged victim - a 44-year-old nurse - sobbed as she told how she was grabbed around the throat and shoved backwards so violently that it caused the glass door of an oven to shatter into fragments.

Richard Mumford, 39, a shooting instructor from Windsor Road, Chobham, denies rape and common assault on the woman, who cannot be identified for legal reasons.

Jurors at Guildford Crown Court were told on Monday this week that the defendant, who teaches shooting at Bisley Rifle Range, was a martial arts enthusiast who had won medals in a national contest.

The court was told the alleged sex attack happened on September 20, 2006, while the woman was living on a houseboat.

Jurors heard that she and Mumford had known each other since a young age when they had played together as children.

Robin Johnson, prosecuting, said the woman was working in her kitchen when the defendant came in and demanded sex.

He said: "He grabbed her around the neck and started assaulting her. It happened so suddenly she didn't even have the opportunity to remove her Marigold rubber gloves."

Giving evidence in a police interview, the woman said: "I try to forgive people for what they do. But this I can't.

"All I could think of was my little son next door.

"He forced me to have sex. I grabbed hold of the oven door. He pushed me so hard that the oven door broke off and the glass shattered."

The woman said the next day a nursing colleague noticed the bruise marks on her neck and asked her about them.

But she said: "I told her it was too painful to talk about."

She said she bottled up the incident for two years and only revealed it when police questioned her about an assault said to have been carried out by Mr Mumford during a visit to her flat.

The alleged victim said the defendant was a martial arts enthusiast who had competed at national level.

"I've seen the medals he's won.

"I'm very scared of him," she added.

The trial continues.

BoulderDawg

01-08-2009, 10:47 AM

The last couple of stories had nothing to do with martial arts. They were people that practice MA who just happened to commit a crime. It's not like their position or MA activities lead to it.

You run across murder for hire, rape, beating up women in all professions.

GeneChing

01-09-2009, 11:31 AM

I don't view this thread being solely about teachers taking advantage of students, or pedophilia or anything so limiting. It's really just a receptacle of any mention of martial artists having brushes with the law. Sure, this happens in every community. It still reflects poorly on our community, just as it reflects poorly on the other communities. I think what's most interesting about these reports is how they focus on the martial angle of the story to make it pop out from the rest of the murder-for-hire, rape, beating-up-women stories. That has a lot to do with the martial arts in terms of how we, as a community, are viewed by the general public

This one might be more in line with what you're thinking.

Former teacher pleads guilty to molestation (http://www.pennlive.com/news/patriotnews/index.ssf?/base/news/12314697059960.xml&coll=1)
Friday, January 09, 2009
BY MATT MILLER
Of Our Cumberland County Bureau

A former Cedar Cliff High School math teacher and a private karate instructor is bound for state prison after pleading guilty to repeatedly molesting one of his teenage martial arts students.

Michael D. Zrncic, 32, of Upper Allen Twp., entered his plea Thursday before Cumberland County President Judge Edgar B. Bayley to a charge of aggravated indecent assault for having sex with the 15-year-old girl.

The crime carries a mandatory penalty of at least 5 years in prison, Senior Assistant District Attorney Geoffrey McInroy said.

Bayley will sentence Zrncic after the former educator is evaluated to determine whether he should be deemed a sexually violent predator under Megan's Law, McInroy said.

He said Zrncic's plea will spare the girl the "pain" of testifying at a trial.

It also will bar Zrncic from teaching.

Zrncic, who is free pending sentencing, had been slated for trial this month on the aggravated indecent assault charge and counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, unlawful contact with a minor, corruption of minors and indecent assault.

Zrncic and the teen had sex at Zrncic's private martial arts school, Z's Karate Studio, in the Eastgate Plaza in Hampden Twp., authorities said.

The girl wasn't one of Zrncic's students at Cedar Cliff, authorities said. Zrncic was on leave from his West Shore School District job when he was arrested by township police in September.

Investigators said Zrncic had sex with the girl repeatedly. They said the girl told them he ended the relationship by telling her his wife was pregnant.

Police said they were contacted in April after the girl's parents learned of inappropriate e-mails and instant messages of a sexual nature between Zrncic and their daughter.

Former Cedar Cliff teacher pleads guilty in sex case (http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2009/01/former_cedar_cliff_teacher_ple.html)
by MATT MILLER, Of Our Cumberland County Bureau
Thursday January 08, 2009, 12:07 PM

Michael Zrncic, a former Cedar Cliff High School math teacher and karate instructor, pleaded guilty this morning to aggravated indecent assault for having sex with a 15-year-old girl who was one of his martial arts students.

The plea will send Zrncic, 32, to state prison for at least five years when he is sentenced by Cumberland County President Judge Edgar B. Bayley, Senior Assistant District Attorney Geoffrey McInroy said.

The girl wasn't one of Zrncic's high school students, authorities said. He was on leave from Cedar Cliff when he was arrested by Hampden Twp. police in September.

Investigators said the teen had been taking lessons at Zrncic's business, Z's Karate Studio in the Eastgate Plaza.

GeneChing

01-15-2009, 10:40 AM

10 years in prison and a $20,000 fine?
$19,013.50 (labor and materials) to eradicate the damage??

Mixed martial arts champ charged in Capitol graffiti (http://www.thenewstribune.com/front/topstories/story/595061.html)
BY JEREMY PAWLOSKI, The Olympian
Published: 01/14/09 5:55 pm | Updated: 01/15/09 7:08 am

Prosecutors have charged Olympia mixed-martial-arts champion and avowed anarchist Jeff Monson with first-degree malicious mischief based on photographs published in the December edition of “ESPN The Magazine,” showing him spray-painting an anarchist symbol on the state Capitol, court papers state.

A warrant seeking Monson’s arrest was filed Wednesday morning in Thurston County Superior Court. Monson, 37, is charged with first-degree malicious mischief, a Class B felony carrying a maximum penalty of up to 10 years in prison and a $20,000 fine.

The graffiti cost $19,000 to clean up, the court papers state.

Police have been seeking those responsible for spray-painting graffiti on columns on the north side of the Capitol’s legislative building on Nov. 26. The graffiti included anarchy symbols, a peace symbol, and phrases such as “no war” and “no poverty.” According to the court papers, a State Patrol and an Olympia police detective recognized Monson as the perpetrator of the graffiti on surveillance footage captured by a camera at the Capitol, but the break in the case occurred after ESPN The Magazine published an article on Monson and his political views on Dec. 29.

A photograph of Monson leaving graffiti on the Capitol was included in the article, court papers state.

“In full the caption above the picture reads: ‘On a recent night in Olympia, Monson suddenly pulled out a spray can and tagged the state capitol (sic),’” court papers state. “The term ‘tagged’ seems somewhat puerile in light of the fact that the State Buildings and Grounds expended $19,013.50 (labor and materials) to eradicate the damage.”

Monson, an Olympia native and Timberline High School graduate who wrestled at Oregon State, left a job as a mental health counselor to pursue mixed martial-arts fighting. In December 2004, he won the Cagewarriors Fighting Champion heavyweight title in Sheffield, England, by defeating Tengiz Tedoradze with a submission hold in the first round.

Most recently, on Dec. 13, he won a match against Ricco Rodriguez in the Mixed Fighting Alliance “There Will Be Blood” event in Miami. Monson’s fighting nickname is “The Snowman.” He is currently the World Grappling Champion.

Reached by telephone on Wednesday, Monson, who is out of state, took responsibility for the graffiti at the Capitol, but said that it has a point: to protest war in Iraq and economic inequality at home and abroad.

“Every great movement in the United States from civil rights, women’s rights, the labor movement, has been the result of people standing up and breaking the law, refusing to stand at the back of the bus, refusing the stand aside when the government asks you to get off their property,” Monson said. “And now, these people are seen as pioneers. But at the time, they were criminals, they were literally criminals. I’m not here to advocate for myself, at some point you have to stand up.”

Monson, who said he has participated in the protests at the Port of Olympia in November 2007, and in other protests against the Iraq War, added that he wants to make his political beliefs known. “When a country’s committing an illegal war, you’re not supposed to stand aside.”

Monson said he just got back from Nicaragua, where he saw some of the worst poverty he has ever seen in his life. He said the international travel that he has taken has opened his eyes to issues of poverty worldwide.

“We’re completely complicit,” he said. “It’s all about consumerism. We want cheap TVs, we want cheap clothes, we want cheap Nikes. We’re exploiting these people.”

Monson said he had heard only 20 minutes earlier that the State Patrol was looking for him in Olympia. He said he is going to contact State Patrol, but he’s not sure what he’s going to do.

Lucas

01-15-2009, 10:45 AM

Free monson!!!!!!

golgo

01-15-2009, 12:23 PM

“Every great movement in the United States from civil rights, women’s rights, the labor movement, has been the result of people standing up and breaking the law, refusing to stand at the back of the bus, refusing the stand aside when the government asks you to get off their property,” Monson said. “And now, these people are seen as pioneers. But at the time, they were criminals, they were literally criminals. I’m not here to advocate for myself, at some point you have to stand up.”

Thats rich:rolleyes:

BoulderDawg

01-15-2009, 12:26 PM

I want to be the guy that cleans up the graffiti!

golgo

01-15-2009, 12:33 PM

I want to be the guy that cleans up the graffiti!

That does sound like a sweet paying gig.

Old Noob

01-15-2009, 12:41 PM

I guess that he doesn't have corporate sponsors and wears fight shorts that he made himself.

Lucas

01-15-2009, 12:54 PM

I guess that he doesn't have corporate sponsors and wears fight shorts that he made himself.

sewn out of his own hair!

Reverend Tap

01-15-2009, 01:12 PM

David43515

01-16-2009, 12:05 AM

I just think it`s funny as hell that this guy is a retired mental health councilor. Just goes to show that most of the people who go into that kind of work are the ones who need it the most.:rolleyes:

Old Noob

01-16-2009, 08:34 AM

That's really too bad. I've met Monson and he's really a great guy. :(

Old Noob: having talked to the guy, sponsorship is one of the few ways he can actually make decent money. Those guys can make $30 grand per year if they win every single fight, much less if they lose some. Political convictions are one thing, but the reality is that everybody's gotta eat, he's got a family, and those guys don't get medical.

And although I haven't seen pics of the graffiti, $19,000 to clean up some tagging on stone columns is just absurd. We going back to the government buying $10,000 hammers and stuff here?

You got no disagreement from me on that. I for one am quite fond of the condom hut adds on the backs of fight shorts. Given that MMA fighters are compensated at a much lower rate than pro-boxers, I agree that they should make as much money as they can from sponsors and endorsements. I'm just saying that this particular fellow might be a bit of a hypocrite unless he's wearing the aforementioned self-made hair-shorts.

BoulderDawg

01-17-2009, 05:03 AM

GeneChing

01-19-2009, 10:49 AM

It's sort of Foot Fist Way (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50402) but in reverse.

Mon, Jan 19, 2009
AsiaOne
She cheated on husband with martial arts teacher (http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20090119-115709.html)

53-year-old Mr Buang was heartbroken when he found out from a private investigator that his wife of two decades had been seeing their children's martial arts teacher.

According to Berita Harian, the mother of three was caught having an affair with her children's martial arts teacher when a private investigator snapped a video of the pair entering a hotel together.

The private investigator also supplied a receipt as proof that the teacher had booked a room in that hotel under his name.

Her spouse, 53-year-old Mr Buang, first became suspicious when he spotted his wife, aged 45, chatting with a man several times at the void deck and at the bus station, and even once caught her giving him some food.

Upon questioning his children repeatedly, Mr Buang found out that his wife was having an affair with with the man, who trained his children in a traditional martial arts form known as silat. Determined to obtain proof of the affair, he hired a private investigator to spy on his wife.

The investigator discovered that the teacher sometimes sent Mr Buang's wife back home and brought their children to his training centre without Mr Buang's knowledge. Their meetings would sometimes end in the wife's bedroom whenever Mr Buang, a driver, was working the night shift.

Mr Buang noticed that since he confronted his wife about her illicit affair, she stopped paying attention to his food and drink, and also ignored his advances in bed.

He told Berita Harian that just a few months ago, he had tried to salvage their marriage by buying his wife $9000 worth of jewellery, including a necklace, ring and a gold bracelet.

But it was to no avail.

Mr Buang is now at a loss. His wife's adulterous affair is threatening to break up their marriage of more than twenty years.

She has reportedly asked for a divorce, but Mr Buang has refused.

He told Berita Harian that he still loves his wife and just hopes to see his children, two of whom are still young, do well in their studies and have successful careers.

BoulderDawg

01-19-2009, 11:00 AM

Why would anyone even write about that?

Something sounds wrong here. This guy is a driver on the night shift yet he can afford private detectives and 9k in jewelry.

Reverend Tap

01-19-2009, 11:47 AM

I'd be interested in knowing a little more about this guy Monson. To be an anarchist it takes a bit more than showing up at a few protest rallys and spraying graffiti.

I was a taken back by hearing him compare himself to Rosa Parks. When he does something that puts his life and the lives of his entire family in jeopardy for the rest of thier lives then he might understand a little about what Rosa did.

He's a really smart guy, and he does understand the things he's doing and talking about quite well. His biggest problem is, honestly, that he's not all that eloquent a speaker, which causes him some difficulty in conveying the message.

Found an interesting, and probably fairly accurate, take on the situation here (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/mma_experts/post/Jeff-Monson-charged-with-mischief-ESPN-not-an-a?urn=mma,134737).

lkfmdc

01-19-2009, 12:12 PM

He's a really smart guy

NO HE ISN'T

A smart guy doesn't endanger his children by not getting them health insurance
A smart guy doesn't think spray painting a building is going to change society
A smart guy would never embrace anything as lame as "anarchism"

and he does understand the things he's doing and talking about quite well.

Again, NO
He's a self professed anarchist with a hammer and sickle tattoo... ie he failed poli sci 101

If he was 14 I could forgive him, he's 38, time to live in the real world

golgo

01-19-2009, 12:17 PM

Why would anyone even write about that?

Something sounds wrong here. This guy is a driver on the night shift yet he can afford private detectives and 9k in jewelry.

I was thinking something similar. This is news because....? Must be a REALLY slow news day in Singapore. Or is this one of those penalties that carries the penalty of caning? I imagine if you saw your teacher getting bent over and beat with a cane, you might lose a little bit of respect for him...

Reverend Tap

01-19-2009, 04:18 PM

A smart guy doesn't endanger his children by not getting them health insurance
Don't know the story behind that, so I'm not going to jump to any conclusions. If he's doing that for ideological reasons (as I've known some people to do, albeit most commonly free-market zealots), I'll agree it's a bonehead move.

A smart guy doesn't think spray painting a building is going to change society
Provocative rhetoric aside, the guy knows graffiti isn't going to change the world. He also knows that he'll get nowhere trying to spread his political philosophy if it gets no exposure, if nobody is talking about it or hearing about it. That is 99% likely to be the reason he did it; simple exposure with a quick-and-easy action that would be almost certain to get lots of attention.

A smart guy would never embrace anything as lame as "anarchism"

He's a self professed anarchist with a hammer and sickle tattoo... ie he failed poli sci 101

If he was 14 I could forgive him, he's 38, time to live in the real world
I'm gonna go ahead and make the educated guess from your comments that your knowledge base on the actual sociopolitical ideals and structures of anarchism (as opposed to the common cultural conception of "anarchy"), the historical significance of various anarchist movements, and the past, as well as current, interplay between anarchism and libertarian forms of communism is, roughly, zilch. Who failed poli sci now? :rolleyes:

Seriously, now. Passing judgment on the intelligence of a person you've never met based on, essentially, a publicity stunt and his adherence to a political philosophy you clearly know nothing about, doesn't do a lot to prove your own intellectual superiority. ;)

I've met him, and, among other things, discussed politics with him (as I tend to do with just about everyone I meet). Disagree with him all you want, but yes, he is an intelligent person.

lkfmdc

01-19-2009, 04:25 PM

I'm gonna go ahead and make the educated guess from your comments that your knowledge base on the actual sociopolitical ideals and structures of anarchism (as opposed to the common cultural conception of "anarchy"), the historical significance of various anarchist movements, and the past, as well as current, interplay between anarchism and libertarian forms of communism is, roughly, zilch. Who failed poli sci now? :rolleyes:

You fail miserably....

Who in their right mind thinks a system where "product of production is distributed regardless of actual labor put in" would work in the 21st century? All those ideologies are completely bankrupt....

Plus, as I already said, you can't be an anarchist and a communist at the same time, yet Jeff has claimed affiliation with both

Please, live in the real world :rolleyes:

Reverend Tap

01-19-2009, 04:37 PM

You fail miserably....

Who in their right mind thinks a system where "product of production is distributed regardless of actual labor put in" would work in the 21st century? All those ideologies are completely bankrupt....

Plus, as I already said, you can't be an anarchist and a communist at the same time, yet Jeff has claimed affiliation with both

Please, live in the real world :rolleyes:

Again, you've got no idea what the ideology professes. First, I'd be curious to know where you got that quote from, and second, both historically and currently, most anarchists have professed adherence to communism as an economic, rather than a political, system. All that communism (little "c") means is communal rather than individual ownership over societal means of production, whereas Marxism, Leninism and their derivatives (the big "C" versions) are subsets thereof that incorporate an authoritarian political system along with the communist economic system. But then, if you knew the political science and history of the "real world," you'd already know that. :D

I am not, by the way, trying to get you to agree with anarchist ideologies or anything of the sort. Your politics are your business. I'm just trying to show you that you're operating with some base premises that are way off the mark, historically and politically speaking.

lkfmdc

01-19-2009, 05:14 PM

Again, you've got no idea what the ideology professes.

I know enough to know it is a complete joke, totally bankrupt in the 21st century. If you were more than a kid in love with how "cool" it is to "buck the system" you'd know that as well

First, I'd be curious to know where you got that quote from

"individuals have the right to the product of their labor and to be remunerated for their work according to their needs without respect to how much labor they exert"
- Bakunin

Go look it up :rolleyes:

, and second, both historically and currently, most anarchists have professed adherence to communism as an economic, rather than a political, system.

Is that like trying to be Catholic without listening to what the Pope says? :rolleyes: Anarchism is fundamentally incompatible with Marxist historical law, the vanguard of the proletariat or the dictatorship of the proletariat. Go look those up :rolleyes:

All that communism (little "c") means is communal rather than individual ownership over societal means of production, whereas Marxism, Leninism and their derivatives (the big "C" versions) are subsets thereof that incorporate an authoritarian political system along with the communist economic system.

LMFAO at him squirming :rolleyes:

Jeff Monson has a HAMMER AND SICKLE tattoo, which is Communism with a BIG C

"Mr intelligent" isn't smart enough to understand that he's a walking contradiction (literally!)

Of course, we could discuss a self professed anarchist who has corporate sponsors, cashes checks from big fight companies, had a wrestling scholarship that others didn't have access to, etc....

Or how about "mr socially concerned" who has never volunteered in a soup kitchen or crisis center. He can spew his "concern" but only after lifting for a few hours at the gym and inbetween big fights :rolleyes:

golgo

01-19-2009, 05:19 PM

Again, you've got no idea what the ideology professes. First, I'd be curious to know where you got that quote from, and second, both historically and currently, most anarchists have professed adherence to communism as an economic, rather than a political, system. All that communism (little "c") means is communal rather than individual ownership over societal means of production, whereas Marxism, Leninism and their derivatives (the big "C" versions) are subsets thereof that incorporate an authoritarian political system along with the communist economic system. But then, if you knew the political science and history of the "real world," you'd already know that. :D

I am not, by the way, trying to get you to agree with anarchist ideologies or anything of the sort. Your politics are your business. I'm just trying to show you that you're operating with some base premises that are way off the mark, historically and politically speaking.

Considering the fact that most anarchist I have ever met don't actually believe in "Anarchy" per se, and since labling yourself as an anarchist is one way of ensuring that 99.9% of the population will not take anything you say seriously, calling yourself/your movement Anarchist is a horrible idea from a marketing standpoint (assuming you want people to listen to you and take you seriously). Its the same thing as the "Satanic Bible" and Satanism (which really has nothing to do with worshiping the devil).

Names are more than just names - they're first impressions.

Reverend Tap

01-19-2009, 09:02 PM

I know enough to know it is a complete joke, totally bankrupt in the 21st century. If you were more than a kid in love with how "cool" it is to "buck the system" you'd know that as well
Believe whatever you want to about me, dude. Baseless insults serve only to denigrate your own character.

For that matter, believe whatever you want to about Monson as well. The only thing actually bothering me right now is your insistence on making political points based on incorrect understandings of the theories in question.

"individuals have the right to the product of their labor and to be remunerated for their work according to their needs without respect to how much labor they exert"
- Bakunin
Ah, you were misquoting in such a way as to ignore the actual point of what he was saying. Gotcha. :rolleyes:

Is that like trying to be Catholic without listening to what the Pope says? :rolleyes: Anarchism is fundamentally incompatible with Marxist historical law, the vanguard of the proletariat or the dictatorship of the proletariat. Go look those up :rolleyes:
You're working off of fundamentally incorrect assumptions. First, communism is not, in fact, a synonym for Marxism. Marx and Engels developed communist theory, but the term predated his writings and has historically been developed in different directions by different people. It goes a bit like this: communism > Marxism > Leninism > Stalinism, Maoism, Trotskyism, other derivatives, etc. Most anarchists espouse, to one degree or another, communal ownership over societal means of production, which makes them communists by definition. Second, you're ignoring what I've been saying. The vanguard/dictatorship of the proletariat are sociopolitical, not economic, concepts, and do not apply since anarchists who espouse a form of libertarian communism (called simply anarcho-communists) do so as an economic and not sociopolitical system.

LMFAO at him squirming :rolleyes:
Trying to get people to use correct political terminology is "squirming?"

Jeff Monson has a HAMMER AND SICKLE tattoo, which is Communism with a BIG C

"Mr intelligent" isn't smart enough to understand that he's a walking contradiction (literally!)
The hammer and sickle is the only universally-recognized symbol for communism there is. It's problematic, to be sure, and I don't imagine most anarchists or even most anarcho-communists would get that tattoo, but as we both already know, Monson tends to try and seek attention to, at the least, get people talking. The fact that we're even having this discussion is proof of that.

As I've said already, I'm not trying to persuade you on his politics, and I'm certainly not going to try and defend actions the motive of which I can only make reasonably educated guesses at. You want to discuss that stuff, Monson himself is easy enough to contact via his website. I'm doing this right now because the way you're discussing these political theories carries no more sophisticated understanding of them than you'd get out of the average high school civics class, and that bugs me.

Of course, we could discuss a self professed anarchist who has corporate sponsors, cashes checks from big fight companies, had a wrestling scholarship that others didn't have access to, etc....
Better for him (and his family) to starve? Regardless of your political outlook, the only way to really get by in this society is by having a job and doing what you can to keep it and get ahead in it.

Or how about "mr socially concerned" who has never volunteered in a soup kitchen or crisis center. He can spew his "concern" but only after lifting for a few hours at the gym and inbetween big fights :rolleyes:
You know this for a fact? Or are you guessing?

Reverend Tap

01-19-2009, 09:08 PM

Considering the fact that most anarchist I have ever met don't actually believe in "Anarchy" per se, and since labling yourself as an anarchist is one way of ensuring that 99.9% of the population will not take anything you say seriously, calling yourself/your movement Anarchist is a horrible idea from a marketing standpoint (assuming you want people to listen to you and take you seriously). Its the same thing as the "Satanic Bible" and Satanism (which really has nothing to do with worshiping the devil).

Names are more than just names - they're first impressions.

True enough, but the outlook Monson has is similar to that I've seen in a lot of people with unpopular ideologies; "if I believe x, and x has a bad reputation I don't think it deserves, I'm going to try and reform the image of x rather than saying I believe y, which seems dishonest to me." Agree with it or not, it's a valid standpoint.

Anarchism as a political ideology predates the common usage of the term "anarchy" as meaning chaos or disorder, incidentally. So it's not really analogous to Satanism, which took the established word/concept and more or less bent it to a different purpose.

lkfmdc

01-19-2009, 09:12 PM

LMFAO.....

How can you in this day and age defend such discredited theories? As if dissolving all forms of government would suddenly stop the poor from being poor, the homeless from being homeless and there would never be war again? :rolleyes:

Yup, equally distribute all product to everyone regardless of what they put in, sure worked in the Soviet Union, China, eastern Europe.... oh wait, NO IT DID NOT! There isn't a legit communist state left, well, except maybe North Korea where everyone is starving to death :rolleyes:

Dear lord

Reverend Tap

01-19-2009, 10:33 PM

Chief_Suicide

01-20-2009, 06:21 AM

When it rains, it pours.

I'm resisting the pun between Monson and monsoon!

http://www.theolympian.com/672/story/731879.html

Olympia mixed-martial arts champion and avowed anarchist Jeff Monson is in the Davie County Jail in North Carolina, a jail official said Monday, on suspicion of an assault charge unrelated to his arrest warrant in Olympia for allegedly spray-painting the Capitol.

A Davie County, North Carolina corrections officer said Monday that Monson was in jail Monday on suspicion of "assault on a female and injury to real property."

Monson, 37, has an active warrant for his arrest in Olympia on suspicion of first-degree malicious mischief for allegedly spray-painting an anarchist symbol and other messages on the State Capitol.

Monson could not be reached by phone Monday.

Stephanie Trapani, 30, of Advance, North Carolina, said Monson is in jail for trashing her home and grabbing her after an argument Saturday. Trapani says she had a romantic relationship with Monson, but they got in an argument after found out he had romantic relationships with other women. She said she found out information about his other girlfriends on his cell phone and she then threw the cell phone out the window of her car while she was driving to pick him up at the gym. When he found out his cell phone was gone when they returned to Trapani's home, he got angry. "He went ballistic," she said.

At Trapani's home, Monson packed up his belongings, Trapani said. But when she told him she had thrown his cell phone out the window of her car, he grabbed her laptop and started "hitting the columns" of her home. She said Monson was enraged, and put a hole in the wall and flipped over a grandfather clock.

"He's being charged with domestic violence and damage to property because he destroyed my house," Trapani said. "He started just bashing holes in the walls and the columns."

Trapani said her neighbor called police and Monson was placed under arrest around 8 p.m.

Trapani said she met Monson Sept. 27 at a fight in North Carolina. She said she is a spokesmodel for a fightwear company that Monson endorses.

Trapani said her romantic relationship with Monson is over. "I'm done," she said.

BTW, I am NOT taking joy in this guys misery. Just reporting further on the situation that was brought up before. I hope for his sake that none of this is true.

GeneChing

01-20-2009, 10:54 AM

I don't think anyone takes pleasure in this Chief_Suicide. My intention behind it was strictly for documentation. If you review this thread, it's a fascinating examination of how the media views martial artists. In some of the stories, the fact that the perp is a martial artists is merely an angle. In others, it's all about their connection to the martial arts that allows them the abuse of power. Regardless, almost all of them state that they are martial artists in the headline, so it's a real bullet point in the story.

continued (http://www.theolympian.com/topstories/story/731879-p2.html)
It was unclear Monday how Monson's new criminal charge will affect his ability to surrender to authorities in Washington.

Monson, an Olympia native and Timberline High School graduate who was on the wrestling team at Oregon State University, left a job as a mental-health counselor to pursue mixed-martial arts fighting.

In December, 2004, he won the Cagewarriors Fighting Championship heavyweight title in Sheffield, England by defeating Tengiz Tedoradze with a submission hold in the first found. On Dec. 13, 2008, he won a match against Rocco Rodriguez in the Mixed Fighting Alliance, “There Will Be Blood” event in Miami. Monson's fighting nickname is "The Snowman."

Last week, Monson took responsibility for leaving graffiti at the State Capitol in Olympia on Nov. 26 to protest the Iraq War and economic injustice. Thurston County prosecutors charged Monson with first-degree malicious mischief for the graffiti after ESPN The Magazine published photos of Monson spraying graffiti on the Capitol on that date.

After learning of the arrest warrant last week, Monson said in a phone interview that, "Every great movement in the United States, from civil rights, women's rights, the labor movement, has been the result of people standing up and breaking the law, refusing to stand at the back of the bus, refusing to stand aside when the government asks you to get off their property. And now, these people are seen as pioneers. But at the time, they were criminals, literally criminals. I’m not here to advocate myself; at some point you have to stand up.

BoulderDawg

01-20-2009, 11:10 AM

I just don't see this guy as being sincere. I have no problem with the idea of a protest by spray painting the state capitol. Hoever in this case, the ESPN crew was there and the only reason he did it was to advance his own career.

lkfmdc

01-20-2009, 12:31 PM

Monson said in a phone interview that, "Every great movement in the United States, from civil rights, women's rights,

yeah, he's a real advocate of women's rights :rolleyes:

BoulderDawg

01-20-2009, 12:32 PM

Last words about Monson:

Be him anarchist or neocon, if he gets the reputation for going berserk because of some disagreement with a girlfriend he will soon find that anyone who might have been willing to give him sponsorship will go running for cover.

Chief_Suicide

01-20-2009, 12:51 PM

I've followed Monson a little. He is interesting. He claims to be communist and anarchist, but he also claims to be a Christian Anarchist. I don't even know what that means, nor do I want to know.

He is mentioned in Me, Chi, and Bruce Lee by Brian Preston. That is an interesting book btw. I think it just came out in paperback here in the US. He's not a bad MMA fighter, but he has had his troubles.

I know you guys aren't making fun of these people Gene. I was making reference to my poor pun joke.

TCMA and MA in general are just like any other part of life. You have good pastors and priests, and you have bad ones. Politicians are the same way, with the good ones never making the news.

I've been attending a Kung Fu school here in Cincinnati for a little over a year now. My Sifu is human like everyone else, but I see where he tries to make a difference in the lives of his students. He works with a lot of inner city kids, and I can see where he tries to be a good mentor. To me, that good martial arts, and just plain being a good person. He probably won't ever make the news, but considering this thread, that is probably a good thing. I'm sure for every pedophile or raging idiot, there are hundreds if not thousands of good martial arts teachers. Thankfully!

Reverend Tap

01-20-2009, 02:31 PM

Well, we'll see how it all pans out. The Olympian article didn't include much actual information beyond her allegations, so I'm not going to leap to conclusions either way just yet. Very not cool if it is true, though.

GeneChing

01-21-2009, 10:59 AM

10 counts and counting...

Martial arts instructor accused of molesting boys (http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_11506267)
Daily News Wire Service
Updated: 01/20/2009 06:14:35 PM PST

BURBANK -- Burbank police announced the arrest of a tae kwon do instructor on suspicion of sexually molesting two boys.

Burbank resident Suphachai Leeisaranukul, 36, who also goes by the name Chris Lee, was arrested on Jan. 6, according to Burbank police Detective Brian Gordon.

The District Attorney's Office has filed 10 counts of committing lewd acts on a child against Leeisaranukul, who is being held in lieu of $760,000 bail, Gordon said.

Gordon indicated they believe there may be more alleged victims and asked anyone with information pertaining to the suspect to call him at (818) 238-3255.

BoulderDawg

01-21-2009, 11:16 AM

yeah, he's a real advocate of women's rights :rolleyes:

Well, From what I read the altercation had really nothing to do with the fact that she was a women.

I think it involves anger issues. My guess is the guy had like tons of information, phone #s and other stuff on his phone. She took this guys phone started looking in it and finding other girls phone numbers and destroyed it. He probably would have reacted the same way if it had been a guy who did that because he found his girl friends number on his phone.

I think the guy has some personal issues. Most anarchists I know try to keep a low profile especially when it comes to how they make a living.

xcakid

01-21-2009, 11:18 AM

Holy cow man. I'm glad he is called Chris Lee for short. His real name is a challenge of its own.

lkfmdc

01-21-2009, 11:25 AM

Well, From what I read the altercation had really nothing to do with the fact that she was a women.

I think it involves anger issues. My guess is the guy had like tons of information, phone #s and other stuff on his phone. She took this guys phone started looking in it and finding other girls phone numbers and destroyed it. He probably would have reacted the same way if it had been a guy who did that because he found his girl friends number on his phone.

I think the guy has some personal issues. Most anarchists I know try to keep a low profile especially when it comes to how they make a living.

I will type slowly, try and read slowly and see if you can grasp the concept

under
no
circumstances
do you
hit a
woman

period

now, especially if you are well over 200 lbs and a pro fighter

more evidence he is a giant hypocrite

MasterKiller

01-21-2009, 11:27 AM

BoulderDawg

01-21-2009, 11:35 AM

I will type slowly, try and read slowly and see if you can grasp the concept

under
no
circumstances
do you
hit a
woman

period

now, especially if you are well over 200 lbs and a pro fighter

more evidence he is a giant hypocrite

You know you just made yourself look like a total fool!:D

As MasterKiller said, there was nothing to indicate the guy hit her.

You're amazing. You might do well to actually read and understand something before you start making sarcastic remarks about other people's intelligence.

lkfmdc

01-21-2009, 11:43 AM

As MasterKiller said, there was nothing to indicate the guy hit her.

"nothing" except the three reports on the MMA based sites saying he has been accused of assault and battery, and the report on MMA.tv that he was "denied bail based upon the (violent) nature" :rolleyes:

BoulderDawg

01-21-2009, 11:56 AM

You're a real peice of work man. If nothing else you should apologize for the smartass reply you gave. However I don't really expect that you will!:D

As was said, I have read nothing that says anything about him hitting this women. You can defend yourself all you like and believe what you will. The article that was attached to this thread mentioned nothing of any sort of physical attack on this women.

It's obvious, from what you've said, you hate this guy for whatever reason but the facts are the facts. And you continue to make yourself look like a fool by continuing your argument and not just saying "I was wrong".

lkfmdc

01-21-2009, 12:01 PM

As was said, I have read nothing that says anything about him hitting this women.

Well, if YOU haven't read it, then it can't be true :rolleyes:

(/sarcasm)

There are like 5 HUGE threads out there about him right now, google it ;)

It's obvious, from what you've said, you hate this guy for whatever reason but the facts are the facts.

Hate is a strong emotion, I simply don't care about him enough to "hate" him

HIs ideology is bankrupt and ridiculous. And he's demonstrated he doesn't really understand even what it is about

He is a huge hyporcite. He also apparently doesn't care about his children (no health insurance) and has anger and violence issue.

I'm just pointing out he is a jerk, not a hero.....

MasterKiller

01-21-2009, 12:05 PM

He also apparently doesn't care about his children (no health insurance) I never had health insurance coverage until I graduated from college and started paying for it myself. More than 1/2 the country lives like this. I don't think 1/2 the country hates their kids (unless all those kids are Republican. Then I can understand it.)

lkfmdc

01-21-2009, 12:08 PM

I never had health insurance coverage until I graduated from college and started paying for it myself. More than 1/2 the country lives like this. I don't think 1/2 the country hates their kids (unless all those kids are Republican. Then I can understand it.)

Most of the country doesn't have corporate sponsors, and doesn't get fat pay checks from major fighting events, ie he CHOSE not to insure those kids

And that's still just the tip of the iceberg

BoulderDawg

01-21-2009, 12:10 PM

Your attempts to pull out of this is laughable. I noticed you did not leave any links but instead advised me to "Google it".

I did google it and read several articles...none of which mentioned Monson striking this women. She has accused him of destroying her house and grabbing her. That's a far cry from beating the S out of this women.

Maybe you should either provide a link that describes the so-called attack or quit now before you look like an even bigger fool....I would advise the latter.

I would also advise that you do your research before you shoot your mouth off.

lkfmdc

01-21-2009, 12:16 PM

BoulderDawg

01-21-2009, 12:43 PM

I love liberals, when a conservative does something that they don't like, even it is legal, they are a "war criminal"

When someone they like does something illegal they are a "hero of the cause"

Acting indignant doesn't help advance your cause, it sure as heck doesn't make you right....

The facts remain, your defending a guy who spews rhetoric that is not backed by personal action, who doesn't take care of his kids, who has already committed several crimes

What does any of that have to do with the fact that you are wrong about your facts?

And why does any of that give you license to respond to a reply on this board with rudeness and disrespect?

The one thing I know about liberals is that we disagree with a lot of people but we show respect to all.

I would suggest that if you think this guy is guilty of child neglect then you should contact social services.

golgo

01-21-2009, 12:53 PM

What does any of that have to do with the fact that you are wrong about your facts?

And why does any of that give you license to respond to a reply on this board with rudeness and disrespect?

The one thing I know about liberals is that we disagree with a lot of people but we show respect to all.

I would suggest that if you think this guy is guilty of child neglect then you should contact social services.

This thread has taken an odd turn. Perhaps it should be merged with the "I Want My Vote Back" thread.

I think a lot of generalizations are getting thrown about here on both sides. I am a liberal and I for one try to disrespect everyone I meet. ;)

Reverend Tap

01-21-2009, 01:00 PM

Most of the country doesn't have corporate sponsors, and doesn't get fat pay checks from major fighting events, ie he CHOSE not to insure those kids

And that's still just the tip of the iceberg

You do realize the guy is by no means rich, right? When I talked to him he mentioned the pay he gets on fights and the fact that he has to get corporate sponsorship because his actual fight pay isn't usually enough to support his family on. He sure as he|l doesn't have insurance (what company would cover a professional fighter without charging the GDP of several minor nations per month?), and it wouldn't surprise me at all if covering insurance for two kids was difficult. It's a bit like musicians on major labels: the shows and venues may be huge, they might be on HBO and get paraded around like kings, but what the guys themselves actually take home from it is peanuts. In any event, all any of us are doing is speculating right now, so it's kind of pointless.

Where did you get that info on his kids not being insured, anyway? I'm curious to see it, but a quick google isn't yielding any results for me.

lkfmdc

01-21-2009, 01:09 PM

You do realize the guy is by no means rich, right? When I talked to him he mentioned the pay he gets on fights and the fact that he has to get corporate sponsorship because his actual fight pay isn't usually enough to support his family on.

He has regularly been paid in the mid 5 figures, that isn't enough to support his family?

Where did you get that info on his kids not being insured, anyway? I'm curious to see it, but a quick google isn't yielding any results for me.

interview on "tapout radio"

MasterKiller

01-21-2009, 01:19 PM

He has regularly been paid in the mid 5 figures, that isn't enough to support his family? Depends greatly on those 5 figures. If he makes $10,000 to fight, and fights 5 times a year, that's only $50,000. Without an employee discount program, health insurance premiums could be out of his price range, depending on where he lives.

Reverend Tap

01-21-2009, 05:07 PM

He has regularly been paid in the mid 5 figures, that isn't enough to support his family?
The guy was saying 20-30k for a good year with lots of fights and all wins, much less on years with fewer fights and/or losses. Considering I can't afford insurance just for myself (I'm a cabbie so my income is highly variable, but at the moment it's averaging out to around 20k annual), if that's around accurate then it's plausible. We're not, of course, going to actually know unless we find out the specific numbers.

interview on "tapout radio"
Do you remember when from? The only interview with him I found in a TR archives search didn't mention insurance at all.

BoulderDawg

01-21-2009, 10:32 PM

Do you remember when from? The only interview with him I found in a TR archives search didn't mention insurance at all.

Considering how this guy misread the domestic violence story I wouldn't bet the farm on this one being right either....especially since he hates the guy so much.

As far as how much money he makes: I would be dam surprised if he makes 60K a year....I could be wrong.

lkfmdc

01-21-2009, 10:33 PM

I could be wrong.

you are........

BoulderDawg

01-21-2009, 10:50 PM

you are........

Since you know then you tell us how much money the man makes.......I guess you heard that on the radio too!:D

Kansuke

01-21-2009, 10:57 PM

Kansuke

01-21-2009, 10:59 PM

The one thing I know about liberals is that we disagree with a lot of people but we show respect to all.

??????????????????????????????????

On what planet?

Chief_Suicide

01-22-2009, 05:53 AM

Sorry if this was posted. I went back a page or two and didn't see it.

CLEARWATER - A Clearwater man was arrested Sunday night on charges he struck his girlfriend across the forehead with a samurai sword.

Edwin Taylor Rennolds III, 37, of 4835 164th Ave. N., was charged with attempted felony murder and tampering with physical evidence, reports state. After the assault, he started a wash to clean his girlfriend's blood from bedroom sheets and a mattress pad.

The girlfriend, who had been living with Rennolds for 3 1/2 years, pretended to be dead to avoid further blows before escaping, the reports state.

Rennolds works at Starbucks and is a martial arts expert, reports state. He was being held without bail today at the Pinellas County Jail.

Tampa Bay online (http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/jan/19/clearwater-man-accused-attacking-girlfriend-samura/)

GeneChing

01-23-2009, 10:30 AM

Another samurai sword attack? That one could go in our Bad Day for Samurai Wannabes thread (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52919) too. This is probably in poor taste, but you'd think samurai sword sales (http://www.martialartsmart.net/Samurai_Swords_Shinai_Boken.html) would be up....

Martial arts instructor pleads not guilty in molestation case (http://www.contracostatimes.com/california/ci_11530418?nclick_check=1)
Daily News Wire Service
Posted: 01/22/2009 06:02:43 PM PST
Updated: 01/22/2009 06:15:45 PM PST

BURBANK -- A tae kwon do instructor accused of sexually molesting two boys pleaded not guilty Thursday to 10 felony counts of lewd acts with a child.

Suphachai Chris Leeisaranukul, 36, of Burbank, was arrested Jan. 6 by Burbank police and has remained in custody since then.

The criminal complaint alleges that the crimes occurred between May 1, 2007, and Dec. 23, 2008.

Leeisaranukul, who also goes by the name Chris Lee, is being held in lieu of $760,000 bail pending his next appearance in Burbank Superior Court on Feb. 18, when a date is scheduled to be set for a hearing to determine if there is enough evidence to require him to stand trial.
Chris Lee post #1 (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=907417&postcount=305)

GeneChing

01-23-2009, 10:53 AM

...for now...

Champion fighter is out of jail (http://www.theolympian.com/southsound/story/735984.html)

Olympia mixed-martial-arts champion and avowed anarchist Jeff Monson has posted bail and been released from Davie County Jail in North Carolina, according to his attorney.

Monson is scheduled to appear in a Thurston County courtroom Tuesday to face a malicious-mischief charge for allegedly spray-painting an anarchist message on the Capitol.

Monson, 38, was arrested Saturday in North Carolina on suspicion of assault on a female and injury to real property, a jail official said. Stephanie Trapani, 30, said Monson was arrested after punching holes in the wall of her home and upending a grandfather clock after she told him she threw his cell phone out the window of her car.

Monson's attorney, Legrand Jones, said Thursday that Trapani also was arrested during the incident for taking Monson's cell phone and throwing it out of the car.

Jones said Monson looks forward to facing his charge in Olympia.

Monson was featured in a story in ESPN The Magazine, in December. A photo showed him spray-painting graffiti on the Capitol.

GeneChing

01-29-2009, 12:49 PM

...but given this situation, I'll make an exception. Generally, I figure it's an open forum and anyone can become a member and post it for themselves. However, I've been contacted privately from someone in Stephen Gressett's camp (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=816632&postcount=1), who was our initial article for this thread. They have respectfully requested that I post the following and I will honor this:

Defendant: STEPHEN GRESSETT Count #: 501
Offense Date: 11/9/2007 Citation #:
Complaint Date: 11/9/2007 Information Date:
Statute: 800.04(5)(B) - LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS MOLESTATION (VT<12 YOA)
General Offense Category:
Charge Level: FELONY Charge Degree: FIRST DEGREE
Result: DROPPED AND OR ABANDONED Result Date: 4/18/2008

lkfmdc

01-29-2009, 01:05 PM

In related news, charges against controversial BJJ instructor Gene Simco (spelling?) seem to have fizzled after much discussion. He pleaded guilty to a minor charge which basicly was letting a minor (14) have alcohol while at his house (while apparently her parents were also present).....

GreenCloudCLF

01-29-2009, 01:10 PM

sanjuro_ronin

01-29-2009, 01:15 PM

As long as everyone knows this does not mean the same thing as innocent.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

True, because he was already innocent.
You know, that pesky "innocent till proven guilty" thing.

lkfmdc

01-29-2009, 01:17 PM

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=75312&page=40

post by Samuel Browning

Okay, I just got back from Milbrook New York and here are the results.

1) Gene Simco was originally charged with two misdemeanor charges. Sexual Abuse in the Third Degree and Endangering the Welfare of a Child.

2) Tonight Simco pled guilty to Endangering the welfare of a child. A violation of P.L. 260.10 which is an A misdemeanor. The Sexual Abuse Charge in the Third Degree Charge was dismissed.

3) I have a letter from Ken Benzinger, Esq who is Gene's lawyer repeating what he said at the time of plea and sentencing which is that the plea reflects Gene's contention that "he never had any sexual contact with the complainant" (When I have time, I'll retype the entire letter)

4) Gene says that he is pleading guilty to the charge of endangering the welfare of a child because he admits the 14 year old complainant had access to alcohol at his house and was drinking it, and he (Simco) did not take the drink from her. He also says that her parents who were at the party did not stop her from drinking either.

5) Simco received a conditional discharge. (If he does not get re-arrested he will not serve any time). He is paying fines and court costs of $455. There is also a five year protective order forbidding him from having any contact with the complainant/victim.

GreenCloudCLF

01-29-2009, 01:48 PM

True, because he was already innocent.
You know, that pesky "innocent till proven guilty" thing.

Only in the eyes of the law. Innocent means he didn't do it. That may not be the case here. I am just commenting on how his "camp" made Gene post this as a sort of "AHA see he didn't do it." But that document does not show he is innocent, just says he is not being tried (yet?)

sanjuro_ronin

01-29-2009, 02:15 PM

Only in the eyes of the law. Innocent means he didn't do it. That may not be the case here. I am just commenting on how his "camp" made Gene post this as a sort of "AHA see he didn't do it." But that document does not show he is innocent, just says he is not being tried (yet?)

"ONLY" in the eyes of the Law eh?
Interesting view.

Lucas

01-29-2009, 02:19 PM

Lucas

01-29-2009, 02:19 PM

"ONLY" in the eyes of the Law eh?
Interesting view.

O. J. Simpson

;):p

m1k3

01-29-2009, 02:28 PM

O. J. Simpson

;):p

OJ was found to be not guilty. That doesn't mean he didn't do it, it means the state couldn't prove their case to that jury.

He is still innocent because to only way to not be innocent is to plead or be found guilty of a crime.

Again all of this has nothing to do with if he really did it or not, and only he knows for sure.

GreenCloudCLF

01-29-2009, 02:30 PM

why were the charges dropped ?

a lot of times that happens because they were not real in the first place.

I dont know one way or another in this case as i have not followed it. but the reason for the charges being dropped is important as to whether he is truly guilty.

if they were dropped because they were never true, well....

It also happens alot because the "complainant" doesn't want to testify against her assaulter because of emotions (either scared or "in love") I wouldn't trust my 9 year old in his MA school.

sanjuro_ronin

01-29-2009, 02:34 PM

O. J. Simpson

;):p

LMAO !!
Point taken.

Lucas

01-29-2009, 02:50 PM

It also happens alot because the "complainant" doesn't want to testify against her assaulter because of emotions (either scared or "in love") I wouldn't trust my 9 year old in his MA school.

word. i wouldnt trust your 9 year old in his school either ;)

BoulderDawg

01-29-2009, 03:16 PM

word. i wouldnt trust your 9 year old in his school either ;)

Also, there are lots of difference between a 9 year old and a 14 year old.

That's no excuse for fooling around with a 14 year old but many girls by that age are alcoholics or drug addits with 3/4 years sexual experience under their belt. I mean you see a girl with a beer in her hand that looks 20....some people, especially those that have a few drinks themselves, don't think about asking for ID!:D

GreenCloudCLF

01-29-2009, 04:11 PM

Also, there are lots of difference between a 9 year old and a 14 year old.

That's no excuse for fooling around with a 14 year old but many girls by that age are alcoholics or drug addits with 3/4 years sexual experience under their belt. I mean you see a girl with a beer in her hand that looks 20....some people, especially those that have a few drinks themselves, don't think about asking for ID!:D

Wow...just wow...

BoulderDawg

01-29-2009, 04:22 PM

Well excuse me, Ward Clever.

Maybe you should get in your time machine and go back to a simpler, more innocent time.

ktkungfu

01-29-2009, 09:01 PM

COSTA MESA - A 61-year-old karate instructor is behind bars, accused of molesting a 4-year-old girl taking classes at his studio. Authorities believe the veteran teacher may have abused other students over his 10-year teaching career.

Jon Patrick Harrison of Anaheim was arrested by sheriff's deputies Tuesday evening after the young girl told her parents she had been molested by her karate teacher, Sheriff's Department spokesman Jim Amormino said. Authorities believe the abuse happened two weeks ago, but the girl did not tell her parents until Tuesday.

Harrison is an instructor at United Studios of Self Defense, at 2675 Irvine Avenue in Costa Mesa, where he has taught karate to children. Sheriff's investigators believe Harrison took the young girl to a secluded part of the studio and molested her, Amormino said.

He was arrested on suspicion of lewd and lascivious acts on a child under the age of 14. Harrison is a married man with children of his own.

The 4-year-old's father has been a student at United Studios for seven years.

Charles Mattera, CEO of United Studios of Self Defense, was on vacation in Costa Rica on Wednesday when he learned of the arrest and allegations.

"We've been teaching children for over 40 years," said Mattera in a phone interview. "I think of all the good we have done. I would hate to see it destroyed by this."

United Studios instructors are required to undergo background checks, Mattera said, and Harrison passed without incident.

"This guy passed all the good guy tests," Mattera said. "He just got past us."

Harrison is being held in lieu of $100,000 bail at the Orange County Jail. He will be stripped of his black belt and lose his interest in the United Studios of Self Defense, Mattera said.

xcakid

01-30-2009, 08:23 AM

Its not a true story without an actually link ya know....:p

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/harrison-united-mattera-2293556-studios-year

COSTA MESA - A 61-year-old karate instructor is behind bars, accused of molesting a 4-year-old girl taking classes at his studio. Authorities believe the veteran teacher may have abused other students over his 10-year teaching career.

Jon Patrick Harrison of Anaheim was arrested by sheriff's deputies Tuesday evening after the young girl told her parents she had been molested by her karate teacher, Sheriff's Department spokesman Jim Amormino said. Authorities believe the abuse happened two weeks ago, but the girl did not tell her parents until Tuesday.

Harrison is an instructor at United Studios of Self Defense, at 2675 Irvine Avenue in Costa Mesa, where he has taught karate to children. Sheriff's investigators believe Harrison took the young girl to a secluded part of the studio and molested her, Amormino said.

He was arrested on suspicion of lewd and lascivious acts on a child under the age of 14. Harrison is a married man with children of his own.

The 4-year-old's father has been a student at United Studios for seven years.

Charles Mattera, CEO of United Studios of Self Defense, was on vacation in Costa Rica on Wednesday when he learned of the arrest and allegations.

"We've been teaching children for over 40 years," said Mattera in a phone interview. "I think of all the good we have done. I would hate to see it destroyed by this."

United Studios instructors are required to undergo background checks, Mattera said, and Harrison passed without incident.

"This guy passed all the good guy tests," Mattera said. "He just got past us."

Harrison is being held in lieu of $100,000 bail at the Orange County Jail. He will be stripped of his black belt and lose his interest in the United Studios of Self Defense, Mattera said.

GeneChing

02-05-2009, 10:38 AM

There's a vid with the news article - follow the link.

Martial Arts Instructor Charged with Sexual Abuse (http://www.wilx.com/news/headlines/39111977.html)
Posted: 7:10 PM Feb 4, 2009
Last Updated: 8:54 PM Feb 4, 2009
Reporter: Lauren Evans

Closed for a family emergency, that's what the sign says at the martial arts studio run by 42-year-old Robert Lintzenich, who is charged with five counts of first-degree criminal sexual conduct.

"It's shocking, shocking," says Ludmila Gess, who owns a business close by. "You think about and hear about these things everywhere else. You don't think that it can happen so close to where you are."

"It's kind of scary," echoes Nicole Colgan, whose nephew attended the suspect's classes. "You don't know who you can trust anymore. Just going there for Tai Kwon Do practice, helping them, really good with the kids, really friendly, so it's really shocking to me."

This picture from the studio's website identifies Lintzenich as "Mr. L," a certified Tae Kwon Do instructor with more than 20 years experience.

Livingston County Undersheriff Michael Murphy says authorities have identified two victims of sexual abuse, both close to him.

"One of the victims stated the abuse had been going on for at least 10 years," says Murphy.

Murphy says Lintzenich has no criminal record, but that complaints had been made against him in two other states.

"If those allegations are legitimate, then he needs to go away for a long time--there is no question about that," Murphy says.

Authorities are not aware of any other victims, but Murphy says concerned parents should err on the side of caution.

"Bottom line is it certainly wouldn't hurt to ask their children if there was any inappropriate activities or behavior that happened while they were at the studio," he says.

Lintzenich is currently being held at Livingston County Jail on $1,000,000 bond.

If convicted, he faces life in prison.

lkfmdc

02-05-2009, 11:25 AM

our favorote anarchist returns :rolleyes:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/wear/7865763.stm

Cage fighter admits tax evasion

A cage fighting champion from County Durham has admitted charges of tax evasion and tax credit fraud.

Ian Freeman, who is professionally known as "the Machine", is believed to have stopped paying tax in 1997 when he left his job as a security guard.
Appearing at Durham Crown Court, the 42-year-old from Stanley, pleaded guilty to tax evasion of over £21,000.

He and his wife Angela, 34, also jointly admitted tax credit fraud more than £13,000.

The pair will be sentenced on 3 March.
Freeman ran his own fight promotions firm and made television appearances but failed to declare his earnings of around £30,000 a year, the hearing heard.
The couple also bought a new £18,000 car and a £27,000 boat before they were caught.

HM Revenue & Customs North East head of investigation, Peter Hollier, said: "Mr Freeman's blatant disregard for the tax system is beyond belief."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/wear/7865763.stm

More info:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2198282.ece

Reverend Tap

02-05-2009, 04:28 PM

our favorote anarchist returns :rolleyes:

Ian Freeman is an anarchist too? Or are you confusing him with Monson?

GeneChing

02-06-2009, 10:24 AM

Looks like everyone is pulling a Phelps. It's the 'in' thing to do. :D

Marijuana scandal hits Japanese sumo (http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SPORT/08/19/sumo.scandal/index.html)
By Kyung Lah CNN

TOKYO, Japan (CNN) -- For the first time sumo wrestling's governing body can recall, one of its revered athletes has been nabbed for drug possession.
Sumo wrestlers fight it out in the ring

Fans expect dignity from their sumo wrestlers, so the drug arrest has stunned Japan.

Police arrested 335-pound Soslan Aleksandrovich Gagloev -- better known as Wakanoho -- on Monday. They say they found a third of a gram of marijuana in his wallet. That's enough to land him in prison on a diet of forced labor for five years if he's convicted.

It's the latest black eye for a sport closely intwined with Japanese culture and history. Fans have long expected humility and dignity from their sumo wrestlers, so the drug arrest has stunned people in Japan, where the national sport has taken a beating in the last year or so.

First, police charged three sumo wrestlers and their stable master with beating a teenage sumo to death last year. They deny it.

Then Japan's top sumo -- Asashoryu -- apologized on national TV after being caught in an apparent lie. He pulled out of an exhibition tournament, saying he was hurt. But television cameras caught him playing soccer in his native Mongolia days later, apparently without injury.

The Japan Sumo Association suspended Asashoryu -- the first time the country's yokozuna , or top sumo, has received that punishment.

Now comes the drug arrest.

Police say they found marijuana in Wakanoho's wallet on June 24 and arrested him Monday after an investigation. The 20-year-old Russian wrester, who stands six feet four inches, has not entered a plea, authorities said. But the arrest prompted the Japan Sumo Association to apologize to fans and pledge to investigate.

Sumo wrestling, which traces it roots back 1,500 years, is struggling not just within its ranks, but in popularity, as well.

Fewer Japanese boys are entering the tough life of sumo, so the Sumo Association is recruiting foreigners like Wakanoho and Asashoryu. Attendance is down at the stadiums, as more Japanese embrace soccer and baseball.

All these struggles may have a silver lining.

"These allegations, be they true or false, this one included, they're all turning points to a more open sumo," says Mark Buckton, a sumo analyst for the Japan Times. "It's good for the sport in the end. It can open up the sport, make them follow modern society."

Hardwork108

02-08-2009, 04:08 PM

Is it me or some of this stuff is real depressing. Has the world changed or has it always been like this? :confused:

GeneChing

02-11-2009, 10:33 AM

This is the martial arts. We aren't all saints. We used to kill people for money. Learn your history.

More on the anarchist...;)

Judge allows MMA fighter's trip to Russia (http://www.theolympian.com/southsound/story/754965.html)
By Jeremy Pawloski | The Olympian • Published February 11, 2009

OLYMPIA – A judge has allowed Olympia mixed martial arts champion Jeff Monson to travel to St. Petersburg, Russia, for a fight Feb. 28 as he awaits the disposition of a criminal charge that he spray-painted an anarchist symbol and other messages on the state Capitol.

Monson, 38, had been ordered to surrender his passport during his Jan. 27 arraignment as a condition of his release after he pleaded not guilty to a count of first-degree malicious mischief. After a prosecutor asked Monson to relinquish his passport, Monson whispered to him, "Are you going to support my family now?"

Monson's attorney, Legrand Jones, won a motion to reconsider Monson's release conditions in court Thursday. A new court order signed by Thurston County Superior Court Judge Gary Tabor allows Monson to travel to St. Petersburg and anywhere in the United States "for scheduled athletic events."

Promoters already have canceled one of Monson's overseas fights, scheduled for March in Tokyo, because of the uncertainty of Monson's travel status, Jones said.

"That was a substantial payday for him," Jones said of the canceled bout.

Still, Jones said, he is glad he was able to convince the court that Monson's anarchist beliefs do not mean that he is a flight risk.

"I'm glad he can work," Jones said.

According to Tabor's order, Monson is allowed to travel to Russia from Feb. 19 to March 2 for his fight there. The Washington State Patrol was ordered to release Monson's passport to the Russian Embassy in Los Angeles so Monson can obtain a travel visa, court records state.

Monson is charged with malicious mischief based in part on photographs published in a profile of Monson in ESPN The Magazine in December, court papers state. One photo shows Monson spray-painting an anarchist symbol on the Capitol.

The Washington State Patrol had been looking for suspects since spray-painted graffiti was discovered on the columns of the north side of the Capitol on Nov. 26. The graffiti included anarchy symbols, a peace symbol and phrases such as "no war" and "no poverty."

In a prior interview with The Olympian, Monson took responsibility for leaving the graffiti and said he left it to protest the Iraq War and economic inequality at home and abroad.

It cost the state $19,000 to clean the graffiti, court papers state.

In Jones' motion to reconsider Monson's travel status, Jones argued that Monson wasn't a flight risk because he has deep roots in Olympia, and his wife and two young children live here. Others wrote the court letters and e-mails supporting Monson, including Olympia Police officer Bob Krasnican. Krasnican did not identify himself as an Olympia police officer in the e-mail, and he did not use a police department e-mail address.

"Though I do not agree with Jeff's political position, I have always found him easy to get along with," Krasnican wrote. "He is very aware of what I do for a living, as well as the fact that I do not agree with his political beliefs. With that said, I would be very surprised if Jeff did not comply with court requirements to appear. Based on previous conversations with both Jeff and Jen (his wife), I have been made aware that Jeff's MMA career is the primary source of income for the Monson family."

Monson's younger brother, Kirkland Police Officer Derek Hill, also wrote a letter of support.

"My brother is an intelligent, well-educated individual who stands up for what he believes in. He is thoughtful, kind and a good father to his two kids. Jeff has strong family ties to the Olympia area through his family, our mother and father, my family and his numerous friends," the letter says.

It also describes Monson's wrestling career at Timberline High School, Oregon State University and the University of Illinois.

"Although I may not agree with every decision he makes, I will always stand behind him 100 percent and never hesitate to speak to his character," Derek Hill wrote.

Monson's stepfather, Michael Hill, wrote, "As I have told Jeff, I do not support his methods of protest, but I do support his right to protest. Having said that, I do not and would not consider Jeff to be a flight risk."

He also wrote that "Jeff needs to provide for his children, and although he has made some bad decisions recently, he is a person of his word and will adhere to any decision made by the court."

GeneChing

02-11-2009, 10:46 AM

Froelich (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=842916) pleads guilty. Karate for kids indeed.

Ex-Bend martial arts teacher pleads guilty to abuse
Posted: Feb 10, 2009 03:49 PM
By Kelsey Watts, KTVZ.COM

A former Bend martial arts instructor pleaded guilty Tuesday to three counts of second degree sex abuse involving a 15 year old female student.

It's been a year since Mark Froelich, 33, was arrested and indicted on nine counts of third-degree rape, sodomy and sex abuse.

At the time, Froelich owned Bend's Karate for Kids, ran the ATA Black Belt Academy out of the same building, and taught tae-kwon-do.

After his arrest, Karate for Kids was closed for a while, and other martial arts centers in Central Oregon, including Acrovision Sports Center in Bend, said they got calls from some parents, wanting to move their kids.

"Well it's a disturbing thing to arise in the community," Dan Graff, the director of tae-kwon-do at Acrovision, told NewsChannel 21 a year ago. "But as long as people can learn to defend themselves and speak out when wrong things occur, then this is the kind of thing we want to teach people."

The charges against Froelich are all Class C felonies, meaning they don't involve the use of force. In court Tuesday morning, Froelich was quiet as he pleaded guilty to three counts of second degree sex abuse.

"It was three separate and distinct crimes or incidents?" Judge Tiktin asked.

"Yes, sir," Froelich replied.

Inside his court file, a typed statement written by Froelich.

"I have a statement in which you admit that you committed the crime of sex abuse in the second degree, three times between January 11th and January 30th of 2008, is that true?" Judge Tiktin asked.

Again, Froelich replied, "Yes, sir."

Froelich does not have a prior criminal history, and based on Oregon's sentencing guidelines, he could face more than four years in prison in convicted.

He now lives out of state, but will be back in Deschutes County Circuit Court on March 30 for his sentencing. At that point, the other six original charges are expected to be dropped.

BoulderDawg

02-11-2009, 10:53 AM

I read the story about the sumo wrestler......I had no idea that possession was such a big deal over there. I mean 5 years for a couple of joints!!!!! That sounds like the US during the 60s. Especially in a country that appears to be very liberal liberal in promoting open sex shops and things like that.....guess I won't be partaking in Toyko anytime soon.

Also, Phelps.....The guy's a big wimp! Apologize my ass! I would call a news conference and invite everyone back for a big party!:D

Hardwork108

02-11-2009, 02:14 PM

This is the martial arts. We aren't all saints. We used to kill people for money. Learn your history.

I know what you are saying, but it is still depressing.:(

taai gihk yahn

02-11-2009, 02:19 PM

This is the martial arts. We aren't all saints. We used to kill people for money. Learn your history.

exactly; all that stuff about good character, integrity, honesty amongst TCMA practitioners - bollocks; that was all reverse engineered onto it to make it appealing to the more respectable "weekend warrior" types who wanted to be "gentleman scholar / fighters" (nothing's really changed, LOL); this made it more in sync w/Confuscian value system (Taoists, OTOH, would be the first to tell you that "life is thievery" and would laugh if you started preaching morality); it was further propagated within the wushu construct; but go back a bit in time, and you see that most TCMA, especially the really good fighters, were survivalists, not ethicists...

GeneChing

02-12-2009, 12:21 PM

Friday, February 6, 2009
Japan’s sumo pot scandal (http://www.theweek.com/article/index/93029/Japans_sumo_pot_scandal)

“First Michael Phelps, now this,” said Tom Mahon in the Philadelphia Daily News. Four sumo wrestlers—three of them Russian, one Japanese—in Japan have been banned from the sport recently over marijuana charges. This has devastated sports fans in Japan—where drug abuse isn’t tolerated, especially when it taints “an ancient sport with a deeply religious association.”

“Sumo is special because it codifies and prioritizes respect—respect for one's opponent, and respect for one's position within the sport's hierarchy,” said James Hardy in Japan’s Daily Yomiuri. And given the common view here that drug abuse shows a lack of self-control, it’s easy to see why many sumo lovers are worried that discipline in the sport is “going off the rails.”

Sumo officials shouldn’t waste any time stamping out this appalling behavior, said Japan’s Asahi Shimbun in an editorial—and not just for the sake of the sport. Marijuana is a harmful drug, and its use is on the rise in Japan. Surely, that’s one area where Japan doesn’t “need to catch up with the West.”

Sumo's pot bellies (http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/20090206_Sumo_s_pot_bellies.html)

FIRST MICHAEL PHELPS, now this.

Some sumo wrestlers in Japan have been banned from the sport for allegedly smoking pot.

The incident is, you'll excuse the pun, making a bigger splash there than Phelps' photo with a marijuana pipe did here.

That's partly because sumo wrestling is an ancient sport with a deeply religious association.

Three of the expelled were from Russia, but one, Wakakirin, is a 25-year-old Japanese athlete. That one of their own is involved has rocked a nation where drug use is not tolerated. Marijuana use, for example, is punishable by up to 5 years in prison.

"We are appalled by his utter folly," an Asahi newspaper editorial said. "Some young people casually try pot. It is vital that we educate them on the risks of this drug from a fairly early age."

One of the risks is that you get a ravenous case of the munchies, which, come to think of it, is probably why those guys weigh more than 500 pounds each. (It might explain why Phelps consumes 12,000 calories a day, but that's another story.)

So what if Phelps smoked pot -- he's in good company (http://www.suntimes.com/news/otherviews/1420075,CST-EDT-open09.article)
February 9, 2009
BY JOE CONASON

The brutal exposure and possible arrest of alleged pothead Michael Phelps, probably the best athlete on earth, demands fresh attention to an old question: Why is marijuana still illegal in the United States?

As the world now knows, poor Phelps was chilling with a few friends and a glass bong when caught on camera. This would have been no problem had London's News of the World not published the photo over this caption: "This is the astonishing picture which could destroy the career of the greatest competitor in Olympic history."

That caption was sensationally misleading. Phelps has lost a major endorsement contract with Kellogg and has been suspended from competition for three months. But certainly there was nothing "astonishing" or even mildly surprising about the fact that a superb swimmer, or a top competitor in any form of sport, might puff on a blunt from time to time. By now, there have simply been too many other exceptional athletes who have admitted to smoking dope for recreation or relief.

Within the last several months, in fact, four ranking sumo wrestlers have been busted and booted out of the sport. No doubt the Japanese wrestling authorities meant to humiliate the sumo stars, using shame to maintain the forbidden aura around the drug, just as we do (which proves that there is at least one other advanced industrial nation as hypocritical on this issue as we are).

But more than a few of the athletes who have identified themselves as cannabis users in past years have done so without the shame that Phelps claimed to feel when he offered his endorsement-saving mea culpa. Some insist that using marijuana eased physical pain or even improved their game. Former Dallas Cowboys lineman Mark Stepnoski, who played on two Super Bowl-winning teams and is now an active proponent of legalization, said he smoked pot throughout his career without impairing his game.

And Stepnoski is not alone in American professional sports, where marijuana use is common. More than a decade ago, the New York Times reported that nearly three out of four NBA players had smoked. Not much has changed since then, according to Dallas Mavericks forward Josh Howard, who told an ESPN radio host last year that not only did he use marijuana in the offseason, but so did "most of the players in the league."

None of this rampant toking seems to have impaired athletic performance -- unless we assume that Phelps, for instance, would somehow have won more than eight gold medals at last summer's Olympic Games. So much for the argument that marijuana damages motivation, or prowess, or leads inevitably to more dangerous narcotics.

Of course, it isn't only athletic stars who have been known to indulge in reefer madness. Important scientists such as Richard Feynman, Stephen Jay Gould, Margaret Mead and Carl Sagan, billionaire executives like Richard Branson and Bill Gates, and a great many of the literary and musical geniuses of the last century or so -- William Butler Yeats, Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong and Bob Dylan among them -- got high. So have many of our top elected officials, notably including California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a highly successful actor and businessman whose pot habit was immortalized on film in "Pumping Iron"; New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, another hard-driving billionaire who once told a magazine interviewer that he had not only smoked dope but "enjoyed" it; Newt Gingrich, the former speaker of the House, and Al Gore, former vice president, Google director, and winner of an Oscar and the Nobel Peace Prize.

What should be the most devastating blow to the foundations of marijuana prohibition was struck just last month, when Barack Obama, yet another confessed former pothead, ascended to the presidency. Obama has never tried to conceal that he smoked quite a bit of marijuana in his youth.

So why do we still need to feign outrage over Michael Phelps? Why must he humble himself before the cameras as if he had tortured a puppy? Why should the law treat cannabis as a damaging addiction, when in fact nearly anyone who has accomplished anything worthwhile seems to have taken at least a toke or two?

Those are among the mysteries of modern prohibition, which is unlikely to end any time soon.

I gotta go with Seth Meyer's take on this (http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/really-michael-phelps/999101/).

SimonM

02-12-2009, 01:02 PM

The writing is on the wall for marijhuana prohibition.

Pot isn't a big deal.
The general public, even in the USA doesn't see it like a big deal.
All it'll take is for some of the dinosaurs who occupy the governments of north america to have the moral certitude to say "there isn't anything wrong with occasional recreational use of pot" and end the rediculous, misguided and immoral "war on drugs".

Hardwork108

02-12-2009, 02:04 PM

exactly; all that stuff about good character, integrity, honesty amongst TCMA practitioners - bollocks; that was all reverse engineered onto it to make it appealing to the more respectable "weekend warrior" types who wanted to be "gentleman scholar / fighters" (nothing's really changed, LOL); this made it more in sync w/Confuscian value system (Taoists, OTOH, would be the first to tell you that "life is thievery" and would laugh if you started preaching morality); it was further propagated within the wushu construct; but go back a bit in time, and you see that most TCMA, especially the really good fighters, were survivalists, not ethicists...

Yet many sifus do their best to teach people of good character (and of course dedication) and refuse people they deem rif raf. I have met such sifus, but obviously you haven't. So maybe morality is relative for you, but not the rest of us.

Furthermore if instructors were choosier about who they taught then perhaps we would not have some of the negative press as MMA-ists. Just a thought.:)

Reverend Tap

02-13-2009, 01:13 AM

I would of course encourage reading of the statement below the comic with all the caveats, but this made me laugh (http://www.thepaincomics.com/weekly090211.htm).

Hardwork108

02-13-2009, 10:31 AM

I would of course encourage reading of the statement below the comic with all the caveats, but this made me laugh (http://www.thepaincomics.com/weekly090211.htm).

A great and entertaining read, thanks.:)

lkfmdc

02-13-2009, 12:01 PM

Johnny contradicts himself, the two year grandmaster, striks again

sifus do their best to teach people of good character (and of course dedication) and refuse people they deem rif raf.

at the same time saying

the fact that WC has been used by gangsters is a well known fact among some Hong Kong sifus.

:rolleyes:

BoulderDawg

02-13-2009, 12:23 PM

Johnny contradicts himself, the two year grandmaster, striks again
:rolleyes:

You neesd to Email Gene about that immediately!

Lucas

02-13-2009, 12:27 PM

I would of course encourage reading of the statement below the comic with all the caveats, but this made me laugh (http://www.thepaincomics.com/weekly090211.htm).

this surely belongs in the drug thread. ;)

lkfmdc

02-13-2009, 01:08 PM

You neesd to Email Gene about that immediately!

I think Gene's too busy with anarchists :rolleyes:

Hardwork108

02-13-2009, 07:42 PM

Johnny contradicts himself, the two year grandmaster, striks again

Maybe you should give up on trying to convince everyone that you know anything about kung fu and try to take some maths classes.

I see that you have not given up on doctoring quotes or being selective about how you quote people's posts.

My original comment states and I quote, "many sifus do their best to teach people of good character".

That by implication means not all sifus!

And furthermore you, Ikfmdc are an example of such a case. Your sifu was not choosey when he accepted you as his student but then he was smart enough not to teach you anything but the superficial stuff proven by the fact that you eventually "evolved" (and I use that word carefuly) into a kickboxing trainer/promoter.

BoulderDawg

02-14-2009, 08:05 AM

Maybe you should give up on trying to convince everyone that you know anything about kung fu and try to take some maths classes.

I see that you have not given up on doctoring or being selective about how you quote people's posts.

My original comment states and I quote, "many sifus do their best to teach people of good character".

That by implication means not all sifus!

And furthermore you, Ikfmdc are an example of such a case. Your sifu was not choosey when he accepted you as his student but then he was smart enough not to teach you anything but the superficial stuff proven by the fact that you eventually "evolved" (and I use that word carefuly) into a kickboxing trainer/promoter.

You're right. If you add the word "Many" in there it makes the statement consistant and logical.

You have to understand lkfmdc. He doesn't read things as an objective person. He reads with a preconceived notion and makes whatever he is reading fit that mold.

He did the same thing with his comments about Monson. He insisted Monson had hit or beaten his girlfriend. Yet there was nothing in any news reports that I read that indicated anything along this nature. He even insisted he was right after it was pointed out to him that there was no evidence to back his claim.:D

If you going to attack another person it's at least proper to tell the truth and get your facts straight.

For example, I don't know one way or the other, but it would also be interesting to see where lk is getting this "2 year grandmaster" stuff. I would like to see the backup for that.

Kansuke

02-14-2009, 08:16 AM

Yet many sifus do their best to teach people of good character and refuse rif raf.

Yet somehow the two-year grandmaster slipped through the system.

:rolleyes:

Hardwork108

02-14-2009, 03:07 PM

Yet somehow the two-year grandmaster slipped through the system.

:rolleyes:

You are a two year grandmaster?:confused:

Please, please, please don't tell the rest of the kickboxers here how you slipped through!

Lucas

02-14-2009, 03:27 PM

I think Gene's too busy with anarchists :rolleyes:

nah, genes just too busy making me nachos, sucka!

Hardwork108

02-14-2009, 03:29 PM

You're right. If you add the word "Many" in there it makes the statement consistant and logical.

That fact was somehow missed by lkfmdc, but then facts never got in his way as far as his attempts at misrepresenting my character and all the other disinformation he created about me (and maybe others as well) in his feeble attempts at character assassination.

He is very insecure!

You have to understand lkfmdc.

Oh, I understand him very well.;)

He doesn't read things as an objective person.

Nor does he write like an objective person!

He reads with a preconceived notion and makes whatever he is reading fit that mold.
You are right and furthermore he does not have any authentic reference for his critical take on traditional kung fu.

He did the same thing with his comments about Monson. He insisted Monson had hit or beaten his girlfriend. Yet there was nothing in any news reports that I read that indicated anything along this nature. He even insisted he was right after it was pointed out to him that there was no evidence to back his claim.:D

If you going to attack another person it's at least proper to tell the truth and get your facts straight.

I have come to realise that truth and facts never got in the way of lkfmdc's (and Sanjuro ronin's) feeble attempts at disinformation, no matter the intended victim.

For example, I don't know one way or the other, but it would also be interesting to see where lk is getting this "2 year grandmaster" stuff. I would like to see the backup for that.

So would I...lol!

I assure you that is another invention of lkfmdc and some of his other MMA forum buddies, just like the fantasy that I was supposedly proven a fraud in a Bullshido thread;that I was thrown out of my kung fu school and disowned by my sifu (he did this by dragging my sifus real name through the forum!!!) and lkfmdc's earlier attempt at making me look like an anti semetic nazi, when he doctored my posts and quoted them with offensive comments added. It is worth mentioning that Sanjuro_ronin and Kansuke (unkokusai) had played along with this as well.

Furthermore as stated by Gene himself, lkfmdc has issued various complains about me. No doubt doing his best to get me banned. He even started a thread to achieve his ends.

Why all this cr@p? Mainly because of my position regarding traditional kung fu training which none of the above mentioned have any credible experience in (a fact that I mention often!), hence their "MMA is best" flag.

Well good to know that you have seen through lkfmdc as well.:)

David Jamieson

02-15-2009, 08:39 AM

Yet many sifus do their best to teach people of good character (and of course dedication) and refuse people they deem rif raf. I have met such sifus, but obviously you haven't. So maybe morality is relative for you, but not the rest of us.

Furthermore if instructors were choosier about who they taught then perhaps we would not have some of the negative press as MMA-ists. Just a thought.:)

equally you will meet sifus who have their own personality traits and dislike people with strong personalities and will deem them unsuitable for that reason alone.

threats to ego also paints otherwise fine people badly in some schools.

it sucks, but sifu's are not beyond being petty little people of their own. The title sifu doesn't amount to much when you meet enough folks like this, same goes for sensei or guru or what have you.

believe me, there are greedy, immoral, unethical, large headed sifus and senseis and gurus in abundance out there.

sad, but true. recognize.

Kansuke

02-15-2009, 10:16 AM

You are a two year grandmaster?:confused:!

That is a title you seem to have claimed for yourself, BB.

BoulderDawg

02-15-2009, 10:43 AM

That is a title you seem to have claimed for yourself, BB.

Cool! I haven't read anywhere where this guy claims to be a two year Grandmaster but I think it's cool that you can be a Grandmaster after two years. Sweet!

I want to read your qualification.

Hardwork108

02-15-2009, 12:20 PM

That is a title you seem to have claimed for yourself, BB.

I have?

Please show us where. Thank you!!!

TenTigers

02-15-2009, 12:31 PM

Cool! I haven't read anywhere where this guy claims to be a two year Grandmaster but I think it's cool that you can be a Grandmaster after two years. Sweet!

I want to read your qualification.

If you join the Masons, you will go through the first three degrees and become a 3rd deg Master Mason. At that time, yuo may choose to go through various stations and qualify to be Master of the Lodge. It requires some reading and the memorization of a 20 minute dialogue, but yu can be a Grand Master in about two years after your third degree.
2B1ask1

Hardwork108

02-15-2009, 12:47 PM

If you join the Masons, you will go through the first three degrees and become a 3rd deg Master Mason. At that time, yuo may choose to go through various stations and qualify to be Master of the Lodge. It requires some reading and the memorization of a 20 minute dialogue, but yu can be a Grand Master in about two years after your third degree.
2B1ask1

Bouderdawg is referring to Kansuke and lkfmdc's insistence in referring to me as a 2 year Grandmaster of kung fu, wrongfully implying that my experience of kung fu to be 2 years. It is their campaign of character assassination which has been going on for a while now.

I suppose that is their reaction for my exposing them (and their friends such as Sanjuro) as nothing but a bunch of glorified kickboxers, thus making their kung fu "credentials" and credibiliy, hence their advice and CRITICISMS of it in favour of the "MMA is best" approach, at best questionable.

TenTigers

02-15-2009, 12:58 PM

yeah, I know.
You'd still be better off joining the Masons!:D

Hardwork108

02-15-2009, 01:02 PM

yeah, I know.
You'd still be better off joining the Masons!:D

Secret organizations scare me!:eek:

TenTigers

02-15-2009, 01:17 PM

it's not a secret organization.
It's an organization with secrets!;)

Hardwork108

02-15-2009, 03:48 PM

it's not a secret organization.
It's an organization with secrets!;)

Well organizations with secrets (and secret agendas) scare me.:eek:

BoulderDawg

02-15-2009, 05:21 PM

I'm a two year superdupermaster.

That's way higher than a grandmaster!:D

lkfmdc

02-15-2009, 09:27 PM

Cool! I haven't read anywhere where this guy claims to be a two year Grandmaster but I think it's cool that you can be a Grandmaster after two years. Sweet!

he's never called himself grandmaster, he just rattles on and acts like he knows everything when in fact he is a raw beginner

his first profile here, that he filled out himself (ie we can't change YOUR profile can we?) said "2 years" under training. I guess he realized that showed how raw he was so he changed it. Most people don't make it a habit of screen capturing every newbie's profile page

However, the stuff on Bullshido about him is still there to see. You can read "wing chun lawyer" who is in the same city, you can read "Pedro" who is a REAL student of the sifu in question.

Funny thing, no one has ever called Sanjuro a liar here, in fact, he's pretty popular. The only person is the same person who claims EVERYONE is out to get him :rolleyes:

Kansuke

02-15-2009, 09:46 PM

he's never called himself grandmaster, he just rattles on and acts like he knows everything when in fact he is a raw beginner

...................bingo!

GeneChing

02-16-2009, 10:40 AM

A school opened up right next to ours once and did the exact same thing. We were all stressed but our Sifu was all "you can have a Chinese restaurant next to a Korean one, so what?" We were all "no, no, no.." Then one day, that class shows up at our doorstep. We all came out to defend our sign, but they said "no, no, no...we just wondered if you knew what was going on. We all just signed up next door and it's closed now." Never heard from that master again. The landlord tried to find him. He wound up giving all his training bags to us and we even inherited a few stray students from him in the fallout.

Martial arts studio under investigation (http://www.delrionewsherald.com/story.lasso?ewcd=4182ae4692e7cbd4)
By Karen Gleason
Del Rio News-Herald

Published February 13, 2009
Del Rio police say they are investigating the operation of a local martial arts studio whose owner apparently took money from students, then closed the business and left town.

But the owner of that martial arts studio told the Del Rio News-Herald today he closed the studio because “it wasn’t making it financially” and called the police investigation “nonsensical.”

Del Rio Police Department Cpl. Fred Knoll said Thursday the investigation into the Del Rio Martial Arts studio, owned by Terry L. Davis of Austin and operating from a storefront at 601 S. Main St., began Wednesday after local police received a complaint from the parent of a student enrolled in the academy.

According to an incident report on file at the DRPD, Apolonio Barrera III, a resident of the 1400 block of Pierce Street, told DRPD Officer Mario Cervantes that he had paid his son’s karate instructor $296 in tuition and uniform fees.

Barrera told police the last class at the studio was given on Jan. 30.

Knoll said Thursday that Barrera told officers Davis had purchased the martial arts business from an established martial arts instructor in November or December of 2008 and began operating the academy at 601 S. Main St.

“(Barrera) told the officer that last week or the week before, the studio closed down, and there was no instructor. Mr. Barrera began to get very concerned when he was not able to get in contact with his son’s instructor,” Knoll said.

According to the incident report, Barrera’s wife passed by the martial arts studio on Feb. 9 and “viewed Davis with a trailer in front of the building.”

The report also indicates that Barrera’s wife then tried to call Davis, “but was unable to get in contact with him.”

When Barrera himself went to the studio later that same day, he found a notice posted on the door of the studio “stating that he (Davis) was (no) longer going to be teaching.”

“Barrera stated that he then made several attempts to get in contact with Davis in regards to him returning the money, but has not been able to get in contact with him,” the police report states.

Knoll said students enrolled in the academy reportedly signed an agreement to pay $400 a year for instruction, a fee that could be paid in up to three installments. Students also were responsible for purchasing their own uniforms, Knoll said.

Knoll said he first looked at the report as a civil problem, but said when he read the “agreement,” it appeared to be a liability waiver.

Knoll said he also learned that as many as 100 youngsters were enrolled in the academy and might be affected by its closure.

“I then called County Attorney Ana Markowski Smith, to let her know about the situation and the potential number of victims, and she told me that, due to that potential number, to go ahead and treat this as a criminal matter,” Knoll said.

Knoll said that anyone who has lost money or whose money has not been returned should come to the police station to make a report.

“Try to bring receipts for the instruction and uniforms along,” Knoll said.

Knoll said he has been able to speak to Davis by phone, and said Davis told him that he was facing “financial ruin,” due to the closure of three of his businesses.

“I informed him that we were looking into this as a criminal matter. He said he believed that this was a civil matter and said that he would consult with an attorney,” Knoll said.

Davis, who promptly answered the phone call from the Del Rio News-Herald this morning, said he has owned the martial arts studio for about six months.

“I went out of business because the school wasn’t supporting itself. There is a notice posted on the door explaining the situation. (In that letter) I apologized and said they’d have to give me some time, and that all the money would be repaid,” Davis said.

The martial arts studio owner said he estimated the total amount of money he owed Del Rio clients to be less than $1,000.

Davis also pointed out that “over half of my clients (in Del Rio) were clients of the former owners and paid me absolutely no money.”

When informed that the police were investigating the matter as a criminal case, Davis said, “That’s just nonsensical. . .I didn’t even close the school until Monday.”

Davis also said he has not received any calls from Barrera.

“All monies are going to be paid back, but they have to give me some time. I’ve got to earn the money, because this school has run me into the hole upwards of $10,000. I’ve done my best, but it wasn’t financially making it,” Davis said.

Hardwork108

02-16-2009, 08:02 PM

he's never called himself grandmaster,

Bingo!

he just rattles on and acts like he knows everything when in fact he is a raw beginner
I don't know everything. I am not a raw beginner...lol.

I have 8 years of kung fu training under my belt and that puts me 8 years ahead of you and your forum friends here as far as AUTHENTIC kung fu training is concerned.

Funnily enough, I still consider myself a beginner in kung fu even if not a "raw" one.;)

his first profile here, that he filled out himself (ie we can't change YOUR profile can we?) said "2 years" under training.

This is where you are lying bluntly!

If my training was limited to 2 years of authentic kung fu then that would still put me 2 years ahead of your glorified kickboxing kung fu. However, the truth is that I never changed my profile and you are LYING, and that is because you are AFRAID!

I guess he realized that showed how raw he was so he changed it. Most people don't make it a habit of screen capturing every newbie's profile page

And you do?LOL,LOL,LOL!

Then you have no excuse to lie about my training time which means that you are lying!

However, the stuff on Bullshido about him is still there to see.

And I wish that everyone would read that just like our fellow forum member, LSWCTN1, who bothered to read it and came out on my defense.

You keep mentioning that link hoping that no one will bother to read it properly and hence take your word for it while assuming that you wouldn't provide a link that would show you as a liar!

You can read "wing chun lawyer" who is in the same city,

That is also a LIE! Wing Chun Lawyer, despite his name, is an EX- Wing Chuner who, if I remember correctly had found "enlightenment" in kickboxing practising...ring a bell?

Furthermore he is not from the "same city"! That is another lie!

He is from Sao Paolo and not Rio de Janeiro, where my sifu is based!

lkfmdc, if you are not going to be able to write one sentence without making an untruthful statement, then it is going to be difficult to communicate with you.

you can read "Pedro" who is a REAL student of the sifu in question.

Yes you can!

What are you imlying that Pedro said in that link?

Funny thing, no one has ever called Sanjuro a liar here,

I did, just like I am calling you lkfmdc, a liar!

You, lkfmdc are still playing you character assassination games. You have in the past doctored quotes from my posts to make me look like an antisemetic, Nazi.

You have falsely lied saying that my Wing Chun sifu had disowned me, while dragging his real name across this forum.

You have lied and said that I had only 2 years of kung fu experience. Then when challenged to provide proof you lied AGAIN by saying that I had changed my profile and you have just repeated that lie (together with other falsehoods) here.

Sanjuro had LIED and falsely claimed that I had said that my sifu had beaten members of the Gracies and other champions in that same Bullshido thread that you quote, but secretely hope that no on will read.

It is an absolute lie and an attempt at character assassination. By the way, Sanjuro has been hiding his butt behind the ingore button since I called him out on his lies.

He does however pop his head out once in a while with snide remarks and rehashes some of his lies. Recently he even lied further saying that some people from my WC school in Brasil had contacted him about me....lol.

That story/ LIE came about when LSWCTN1, a forum member, who had actually bothered to read the Bullshido thread came out on my defense. Of course having been caught, Sanjuro went on to invent another story.:rolleyes:

in fact, he's pretty popular.

He is popular among the glorified kickboxer fraternity some of whom at least enjoy posts of semi naked women as just like Sanjuro himself, that is the only way they are going to see the opposite sex, while others believe the "incredible" abiltity to bread pieces of wood on YouTube is a real sign of a kung fu master...lol. Yes, we are in knucklehead territory here....lol,lol!

The only person is the same person who claims EVERYONE is out to get him :rolleyes:

Not EVERYONE is out to get me, only people such as yourself who have made a BUSINESS out of glorified kickboxing and have a vested interest on all the negative publicity given (including by yourself) to traditional kung fu training!

HW108

P.S. Sorry Gene, I am just telling the truth in response to the various character assassination attempts by lkfmdc and some of his fellow members.

Back to the thread!

Hardwork108

02-16-2009, 08:08 PM

Kansuke

02-16-2009, 09:11 PM

I don't know everything.

Just who is or isn't 'authentic,' right TYGM?

GeneChing

02-17-2009, 10:28 AM

Kimo Leopoldo...tsk tsk...

Tuesday, February 17, 2009
Martial arts fighter wearing police uniform held on meth charge (http://www.ocregister.com/articles/police-wearing-beach-2310405-leopoldo-long)
Kimo Leopoldo was seen by plainclothes detectives in Tustin parking lot in Long Beach police jumpsuit.
By ELYSSE JAMES
The Orange County Register

TUSTIN – Mixed martial arts fighter Kimo Leopoldo was arrested Monday afternoon on suspicion of possession of methamphetamine and wearing a stolen Long Beach Police Department uniform, according to Tustin police.

Two plainclothes detectives at about 3 p.m. saw the 6-foot-3, 235-pound man wearing a Long Beach Police Department jumpsuit, the kind worn by police special enforcement teams, along with flip-flop sandals, in the parking lot of a shopping center at Irvine Boulevard and Jamboree Road, across from the Marketplace mall, said Tustin police Sgt. Jeff Blair.

They approached the 41-year-old to find out if he was a Long Beach policeman, and if he wasn't, why he was wearing a police uniform, Blair said. Leopoldo gave the officers conflicting statements about where he had gotten the jumpsuit.

When the officers searched his car, they found a glass pipe, which can be used to smoke methamphetamine, and a small amount of meth, according to Blair. Leopoldo was arrested and charged with possession of a controlled substance, having drug paraphernalia and having stolen property.

The UFC and PRIDE fighter, who lost to Royce Gracie in Ultimate Fighting Championship 3, had been campaigning to be executive officer for the California State Athletic Commission, which regulates professional boxing, kickboxing and mixed martial arts, and amateur kickboxing in California, according to the commission's Web site. Leopoldo's most recent fight was in 2006.

Chief_Suicide

02-17-2009, 10:35 AM

The part that kills me about this one is the fact that he was applying to be CSAC commission officer.

Talk about brass balls.

BoulderDawg

02-17-2009, 11:23 AM

I'm of the opinion of why in hell would anyone want to look like a cop???? I know I have no yearnings to do so.

That said as long as that is not an official uniform that was stolen no crime has been committed. Maybe he had someone make to look just like the real thing....who knows.

Personally I see no reason to search the man's car. I think if he has a good lawyer the drug charge will be dropped.

I will say, having spent some time in Socal, that it's real easy to party too much , get stupid and lax and forget about the cops.

GeneChing

02-27-2009, 11:00 AM

I wonder what becomes of the victims - what they think of the martial arts in the wake of the crime...

Karate instructor charged with sexual assault of girl (http://suburban.gmnews.com/news/2009/0226/front_page/021.html)

OLD BRIDGE — A local karate school instructor has been arrested on charges that he sexually assaulted a female student.

Patrick Betterton, 24, of Marlboro Road in Old Bridge, was arrested at his studio, Tristar Martial Arts, on Feb. 19, announced Middlesex County Prosecutor Bruce J. Kaplan and Old Bridge Police Chief Thomas Collow. Betterton was charged with aggravated sexual assault, sexual assault and endangering the welfare of a child.

An investigation by Old Bridge Police Detective Richard Tulko and Investigator Daniel Ruschak of the Middlesex County Prosecutor's Office led to the arrest. Authorities said the investigation determined that Betterton allegedly sexually abused the girl on various occasions in his studio and in his home between March 2007 and March 2008, when the girl was 15 years old.

Betterton was being held on $250,000 bail at the Middlesex County Adult Correction Center, North Brunswick.

Anyone with information on the accusations or any similar alleged activity is asked to call Detective Tulko at 732-721- 5600 or Investigator Ruschak at 732-745- 3600.

GeneChing

02-27-2009, 11:07 AM

the fight is called nicely tho... :rolleyes:

Hager City MMA fighter arrested (http://www.republican-eagle.com/articles/index.cfm?id=57135&section=homepage)
RiverTowns Publishing, The Republican Eagle
Published Thursday, February 26, 2009
A 33-year-old “ultimate fighter” and convicted felon was arrested Friday at a Hastings residence after punching three men at a River Falls, Wis., bar in late January, and knocking two of them out.

Following a court appearance Tuesday in Dakota County, Klair was turned over to Wisconsin authorities and extradited to Pierce County.

Later Tuesday afternoon, Klair had a bail hearing in Pierce County and was released after signing a $5,000 signature bond. He listed Hager City as his home address.

Klair will next appear in Pierce County Circuit Court in Ellsworth at 9:15 a.m. Wednesday, March 4, for a preliminary hearing.

Assistant District Attorney Bill Thorie said Klair, before his arrest Friday, had contacted area law enforcement to arrange to turn himself in and also didn’t try to fight his extradition to Wisconsin. Thorie said for those reasons he didn’t consider Klair a flight risk and that his release on the signature bond seemed justified.

The two victims with the most injuries are former River Falls High School athletes from the late 1990s: Joe Cudd, 29, 6-4, 260 pounds, an all-state wrestling champ (1997 and 1998) and all-state football lineman in 1997; and Bennie Berg, 28, 6-2, 250 pounds, a former wrestler and football player.

A third injured River Falls man, Jesse W. Smith, was knocked down but not out.

According to the criminal complaint against Klair, all three were hit on the left side of the face. The blows came fast and were described as unprovoked.

Cudd needed six staples to the side of his head after striking it on a video machine as he fell. He also needed eight stitches to his left lower lip, sustained a concussion and needed a CT scan.

Berg also had a concussion, needed a CT scan and had six stitches to the upper left side of his lip. He also had two lacerations to the inside of his lower lip and twisted his ankle while falling.

Doctors checked Smith out for what he thought was a broken jaw, but determined it wasn’t broken.

Witnesses say Berg was unconscious for about four minutes while Cudd was out only briefly.

The incident happened around 1:45 a.m., Saturday, Jan. 24, at Johnnie’s Bar, 116 N. Main St. in River Falls.

About a half hour before the fisticuffs, Klair and a buddy walked into Johnnie’s and ordered mixed drinks.

The bartender said Klair’s friend soon fell asleep at the bar.

Cudd, who later told police he was somewhat intoxicated, came up to the sleeping man and first stuck a wet finger and then a straw with water in his ear. Cudd said he wasn’t trying to be mean but admitted to picking on the man for falling asleep.

Cudd is also a former bartender and bouncer. He said he was confronted by Klair, whom he didn’t know, and that Klair said, “Leave him alone. He is with me.”

Cudd said he backed off to avoid a fight and raised his hands in an apologetic gesture. He described Klair, just under six feet and muscular, as agitated.

Cudd said as he began turning away, Klair swung a fist and caught him on the side of the mouth. The next thing Cudd remembered was looking at his injured face in the bar bathroom.

A male bartender escorted Klair outside. Klair argued and swore but didn’t resist. His sleepy friend went with him.

Berg, another bar patron, said he had about 10-11 beers that night, didn’t see Cudd go down, but saw the bartender trying to remove Klair. Others were following.

Berg decided to help since the situation was tense. He stepped outside the bar to make sure the person being kicked out left.

Once outside the door, Berg said he was hit on the left side of the head and fell unconscious to the sidewalk.

The next thing Berg remembered was being back in Johnnie’s with a patrol officer and sergeant shining a flashlight in his face and saying he needed medical attention.

Smith, another bar patron, said he saw Cudd do something to the sleeping man’s ear and that the man raised his head and slapped at Cudd, as if he wanted him to stop.

Smith said that the suspect, later identified as Klair, told Cudd to get away, that Cudd tried to do so but was hit in the head anyway and dropped.

Smith was upset, swore at Klair and asked why he had hit Cudd. Smith and Klair swore at each other as the bartender got Klair outside.

When Smith got outside, he saw his friend, Berg, lying on the sidewalk. He began to say something to Klair’s friend when Klair hit him on the left side of the face, near his jaw and ear.

Smith was knocked down but got up. Klair’s friend warned Smith to leave Klair alone because he was an Ultimate Fighter.

Klair took off his black pullover jacket and indicated to Smith that he wanted to fight. Smith declined, but knowing police were called, kept watch on Klair and his friend as they walked south on Main Street.

Klair’s friend picked up Klair’s black jacket and went into the Ground Zero Bar on the other side of Main Street. Others who followed Klair said he went toward the Lazy River Bar, 115 W. Walnut St., though it’s unclear if he actually went inside.

River Falls police officers weren’t able to find and question Klair. Another person on Main Street at the time claimed to know the suspect and said he was from Red Wing.

Using an image from his Minnesota driver’s license, Klair was eventually picked out of a photo lineup by several witnesses.

Klair was previously been convicted of felony substantial battery in 1998 in Pierce County and misdemeanor battery in 1994 in Pierce County. He was also convicted of disorderly conduct in 2005 in La Crosse, Wis., in which a battery charge was dismissed.

Berg told police that Klair acted like a very experienced, knowledgeable fighter. According to one Web site, Klair is 6-0 as an Ultimate Fighter, with three of his wins coming from knockouts. An Ultimate Fighter uses mixed martial arts including cross-training in boxing, jujitsu, wrestling and more.

One-on-one contests are staged in caged rings in front of spectators. Bigger events are televised on cable.

The two felony charges against Klair each carry a maximum sentence of three and a half years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

BoulderDawg

02-27-2009, 11:24 AM

I guess that guy and his buddies will think twice next time before F'ing with strangers in a bar. What was he thinking.

Taryn P.

02-27-2009, 11:48 AM

Berg, another bar patron, said he had about 10-11 beers that night, didn’t see Cudd go down, but saw the bartender trying to remove Klair. Others were following.

Berg decided to help since the situation was tense. He stepped outside the bar to make sure the person being kicked out left.
------------------------

I say, after you've had ten beers, let someone *else* "help".

BoulderDawg

02-27-2009, 12:16 PM

I say, after you've had ten beers, let someone *else* "help".

Also, in that situation the guy had left the bar. If that had been me and I had turned around and saw a long line of people following me out the door I would not be asking any questions either.

I bet no one else decided to get cute after those first two went down outside.

I can't really blame the guy. I would have my friends back too.

sanjuro_ronin

02-27-2009, 12:47 PM

AH the sucker punch, its never out of style !

BoulderDawg

02-27-2009, 03:35 PM

AH the sucker punch, its never out of style !

Well, personally if I decided to degrade another human being (Especially a stranger who had friends) I might have a sneaking suspicion that someone there might try to slap the taste out of my mouth.:D

Shaolin Dude

02-27-2009, 04:07 PM

we should talk about instructors that are busted for being phony

xcakid

03-02-2009, 10:07 AM

we should talk about instructors that are busted for being phony

Oh boy, don't get me started. LOL :D

I saw a listing on eBay that said 5 DVD's to Black Belt.

Here's some examples:
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GeneChing

03-04-2009, 10:43 AM

Does it match 3-4 years of shame for a young girl?

Sentencing delayed due to no-show (http://www.bclocalnews.com/tri_city_maple_ridge/tricitynews/news/40682018.html)
By Janis Warren - The Tri-City News
Published: March 03, 2009 6:00 PM

A bench warrant was issued yesterday for a Port Coquitlam taekwondo grand master convicted of sexual assaulting two of his students in the 1990s.

On Tuesday, Mr. Justice Arnie Silverman issued the warrant at the request of Crown counsel Gail Barnes. It was the second time Jong Youn Lee, 56 of Surrey, had failed to appear for his sentencing hearing in B.C. Supreme Court in New Westminster.

Earlier this year, Lee pleaded guilty to two counts of sexual assault and sexual exploitation of a young person. The assaults took place over several years in the 1990s but the two victims, who cannot be identified under a court-imposed publication ban, didn’t come forward until 2006.

At a sentencing hearing last month, Barnes said one of the women joined the Jong Lee Tae Kwon Do School of Martial Arts when she was 13 and eventually attended classes five days a week. The assaults started at subsequent sessions with Lee putting his hands under the girl’s bra and underwear, and progressed from there to include sexual intercourse. The assaults continued until she was 17 and she didn’t tell anyone what was going on because she felt ashamed.

The assaults of the second woman started when she was 15 years old and was attending taekwondo classes about three times a week. They only stopped when, at 18, she lied and told him she was pregnant.

Defence lawyer David Milburn asked for a sentence of two years less a day to be served in the community. He began his submissions by relaying an apology from Lee to the victims.

Lee worked part-time at the school after being charged but has had no involvement since his guilty plea.

BoulderDawg

03-04-2009, 02:33 PM

lkfmdc

03-04-2009, 02:38 PM

I had a female call me up about classes. She told me that she had been training in a place where the instructor there had been "inappropriate" with her.

I told her the truth, ie that we have a good percentage of female students, they are treated fairly and that has NEVER been an issue here.

She showed up, did a free class, joined, and after about 3 classes it became apparent that she was "flirty" to say the least and had serious boundry issues. I had one of my female instructors explain to her that certain behavior was not tolerated and she had a choice of leaving (we'd gladly cancel her monthly billing) or staying and NOT acting the way she was

She chose to leave.... :eek:

Here's a hypothetical:

Suppose a teacher makes a pass at an adult student and continues after it's been made plain the student wants nothing to do with him.

Should she just leave the school?
Go to the cops?
Tell his wife?
Tell other students at the school?

I'm of the opinion she should just leave the school. There are plenty of other MA schools out there and if it comes to the point where the teachers is stalking her even after leaving the school then call the cops.

Tell his wife or other students? In my opinion that doesn't work.

BoulderDawg

03-04-2009, 02:49 PM

I had a female call me up about classes. She told me that she had been training in a place where the instructor there had been "inappropriate" with her.

I told her the truth, ie that we have a good percentage of female students, they are treated fairly and that has NEVER been an issue here.

She showed up, did a free class, joined, and after about 3 classes it became apparent that she was "flirty" to say the least and had serious boundry issues. I had one of my female instructors explain to her that certain behavior was not tolerated and she had a choice of leaving (we'd gladly cancel her monthly billing) or staying and NOT acting the way she was

She chose to leave.... :eek:

I question that just like I do with your interpetation of the Jeff Monson incident. Just exactly what was she doing? I have a problem believing anybody would do something in three classes so bad they would be asked to leave. You don't even know anybody in the class.

I have a feeling had she not of mentioned the problem at the other school then nothing would have been said.

lkfmdc

03-04-2009, 02:57 PM

I question that just like I do with your interpetation of the Jeff Monson incident. Just exactly what was she doing? I have a problem believing anybody would do something in three classes so bad they would be asked to leave. You don't even know anybody in the class.

I have a feeling had she not of mentioned the problem at the other school then nothing would have been said.

The first class she was in, she was holding pads, she looked at me and said "I need my bra adjusted and since I have the pads on my hands....". I had the female instructor help her. IE I am not dumb enough to put my hands on a strange woman

The next class, we were doing ab work, a drill with leg movement which is also useful for guard work. She ended up next to me on the mat. She looked at me and told me "you know, I's so flexible I can put my ankles behind my head"

I just ignored that one

It was so obvious that my female instructor brought it up first

But you don't have to believe it :rolleyes:

BoulderDawg

03-04-2009, 09:41 PM

But you don't have to believe it :rolleyes:
Gee Thanks!

If all that is true then I have no doubt it was part of some elaborate joke.

An adult woman who was truly interested in you would have simply asked you out to drinks or something after class. This "Adjust my bra" and "Hooking my ankles around your neck" sounds like you are being F'd with. Especially after the "I've already been sexually harrassed" intro speech.

I would have picked up on that immediately, saying "Alright who put you up to this s":D and would have probably seen about three guys hitting the floor rolling in laughter off to the side.

Kansuke

03-04-2009, 10:00 PM

lkfmdc

03-04-2009, 10:59 PM

he can join hardwork108

This message is hidden because BoulderDawg is on your ignore list.

Taryn P.

03-05-2009, 01:15 AM

Here's a hypothetical:

Suppose a teacher makes a pass at an adult student and continues after it's been made plain the student wants nothing to do with him.

Should she just leave the school?
Go to the cops?
Tell his wife?
Tell other students at the school?

I'm of the opinion she should just leave the school. There are plenty of other MA schools out there and if it comes to the point where the teachers is stalking her even after leaving the school then call the cops.

Tell his wife or other students? In my opinion that doesn't work.

If he doesn't own the school, or isn't the senior teacher, his higher-ups should be told that he is behaving inappropriately to students. They should deal with it (by getting rid of him, ideally).

Going to the cops- no, he hasn't done anything illegal if she is an adult and it was just "a pass" as opposed to something more insistant.

Tell the other students? If he was the owner- or if the owner was told and did nothing- one might feel an obligation to tell the other students, at least the females. Especially if any of them are underage. What if you did nothing, and then one (or more) of them was taken advantage of? I'd feel guilty, in that place. And if I was one of those students, I know I'd sure appreciate a heads-up about a teacher who may be a risk for being sexually inappropriate, before I found out by firsthand experience.

Tell his wife? I probably wouldn't go that far, unless the wife was a friend of mine and I felt she needed to know.

BoulderDawg

03-05-2009, 10:03 AM

Taryn P.

03-05-2009, 10:18 AM

I think "passes" go on at all schools. The problems come in when a teacher simply won't take no for an answer and continues to harrass.

With an owner, or a long time high level teacher, you run into the royality problem. Students simply can't believe Master would do that.

I feel that it is inappropriate to make a pass at anyone with whom you have a teacher/student relationship.

If you really think that person is the love of your life, kick hir out of your class and *then* ask hir out. :rolleyes:

xcakid

03-05-2009, 10:44 AM

I feel that it is inappropriate to make a pass at anyone with whom you have a teacher/student relationship.

If you really think that person is the love of your life, kick her out of your class and *then* ask hir out. :rolleyes:

I've actually expereinced this first hand. When I was teaching at a school many moons ago. I ended up dating one of the students. No need to be on the "busted" list. I was 25 she was like 22-23 at the time. Since it was a franchised school, I just sent her over to another school to study. This actually worked out cause the relationship lasted only a few months. It did not end amicably. Being up front to students that ask, I believe, kept the credibility of the school as well. Rather than letting rumors go around.

GeneChing

03-05-2009, 10:49 AM

Foster City is right across the bay from us.

Foster City karate instructor suspected of molesting girl,13 (http://www.mercurynews.com/peninsula/ci_11840375?nclick_check=1)
By Mike Rosenberg
Daily News Staff Writer
Posted: 03/04/2009 11:28:33 PM PST

A 20-year-old martial arts instructor from Foster City was charged Wednesday with molesting a 13-year-old girl he met through a karate school, authorities said.

San Carlos police said they arrested Brendyn Crispell on Monday after he admitted to performing a sexual act on the girl in a car parked on the 900 block of McCue Avenue. Officers were initially called to the scene about 6:50 p.m. because the vehicle had been reported as suspicious.

Crispell was arrested on suspicion of lewd acts with a child under 14 and oral copulation with a person under 18. San Mateo County prosecutors then used police investigations to charge him on Wednesday with a total of four felony counts of child molestation, two of them stemming from incidents prior to his arrest Monday, said Assistant District Attorney Karen Guidotti.

San Carlos police on Monday found a container of Vaseline and two stuffed animals in Crispell's Honda station wagon, said police Cmdr. Rich Cinfio. Investigators did not know Wednesday who the stuffed animals belonged to or why they were in the car.

Cinfio said Crispell and the girl met each other through a karate school. He said Crispell is a martial arts instructor, but did not disclose the school's location or whether the victim was one of Crispell's students. Cinfio also declined to identify her city of residence.

Cinfio said investigators believe Crispell and the girl knew each other for about four years, and the sexual relationship "was ongoing to some degree" for about four months. There is no evidence the victim was being held against her will during their relationship, he said.

After obtaining a search warrant, police searched Crispell's home on Tuesday and seized his computer and other items, police said. According to Cinfio, a forensic analysis of the computer is pending but there appeared to be no immediate evidence of child pornography on the machine.

Investigators were uncertain Wednesday whether the victim's parents knew about her relationship with Crispell, Cinfio said.

Mike Devoy, Crispell's attorney, did not immediately return calls seeking comment Wednesday.

Crispell's bail has been set at $100,000. He is set to enter a plea in San Mateo County Superior Court on March 11.

oh crap... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qyZ-OWEwp4)

BoulderDawg

03-05-2009, 11:31 AM

GeneChing

03-06-2009, 10:29 AM

..."allegedly decided to have oral sex, knowing intercourse was illegal but thinking oral sex was not" Can't play ignorant now...

SAN MATEO CO.: JUNIOR MARTIAL ARTS INSTRUCTOR CHARGED WITH CHILD MOLESTATION (http://cbs5.com/localwire/22.0.html?type=bcn&item=CHILD-MOLESTATION-baglm)
SAN CARLOS (BCN)

A junior instructor at a San Carlos martial arts school who is accused of having sexual relations with a 13-year-old girl made an initial appearance in San Mateo County Superior Court on Wednesday, according to the district attorney's office.

Prosecutors charged 20-year-old Brendyn Crispell, of Foster City, with four felony counts of child molestation, Chief Deputy District Attorney Steve Wagstaffe said today.

Crispell was arrested around 6:50 p.m. Monday after San Carlos police received reports of a suspicious vehicle in the 900 block of McCue Avenue, police said.

When officers arrived, they found Crispell and the girl inside the car. Crispell allegedly admitted to a sexual act with the girl after some questioning, police said.

The two met through the martial arts school and had known each other for about four years, Wagstaffe said.

They had been dating for four months and, as an anniversary celebration, had allegedly decided to have oral sex, knowing intercourse was illegal but thinking oral sex was not, Wagstaffe said.

He said they were in Crispell's mother's car and had taped blankets to the windows for privacy.

Crispell is in jail, and his bail has been set at $200,000, Wagstaffe said. His next court appearance is scheduled for Wednesday.

In response to BoulderDawg's comment above - it's never really appropriate for someone in a position of power, ie. teacher, doctor, boss, to proposition a subordinate. Any professional must engage this. I recommend Sex in the Forbidden Zone: When Men in Power—Therapists, Doctors, Clergy, Teachers, and Others—Betray Women's Trust by Peter Rutter (http://www.powells.com/biblio/0449000699?&PID=33286), MD to anyone going into such a position. Ironically, we were going to lend our copy to one of my shidi, a young fellow instructor. We went to look for it on our bookshelf and then realized we had actually lent it to him years before and he never read or returned it. Some people just never get it.

In response to lkfmdc's situation, that sounds like it was handled very appropriately. There are definitely women that troll the martial arts circles for men. I'm dealing with a few right now. It's a trap, but such an obvious one that anyone with some wude can avoid it.

BoulderDawg

03-06-2009, 11:00 AM

..."allegedly decided to have oral sex, knowing intercourse was illegal but thinking oral sex was not" Can't play ignorant now...

In response to BoulderDawg's comment above - it's never really appropriate for someone in a position of power, ie. teacher, doctor, boss, to proposition a subordinate. Any professional must engage this. I recommend Sex in the Forbidden Zone: When Men in Power—Therapists, Doctors, Clergy, Teachers, and Others—Betray Women's Trust by Peter Rutter (http://www.powells.com/biblio/0449000699?&PID=33286), MD to anyone going into such a position. Ironically, we were going to lend our copy to one of my shidi, a young fellow instructor. We went to look for it on our bookshelf and then realized we had actually lent it to him years before and he never read or returned it. Some people just never get it.

My point of contention was that he should have never been in a position of power to begin with. I don't know this guy but as I said, just from looking at the video, he looked about 12-13 himself. I'm also guessing that mentally he is very close to that age.

Also, as I said, put him with your 40 year old business men and woman. There he could simply teach what he knows about KF. Do not put him with kids...He can't handle it.

Taryn P.

03-06-2009, 11:15 AM

My point of contention was that he should have never been in a position of power to begin with. I don't know this guy but as I said, just from looking at the video, he looked about 12-13 himself. I'm also guessing that mentally he is very close to that age.

Also, as I said, put him with your 40 year old business men and woman. There he could simply teach what he knows about KF. Do not put him with kids...He can't handle it.

It wouldn't be fair to *assume* that because of his looks or his chronological age, he 1)couldn't teach well, 2)was mentally immature, or 3)would be preying on adolescents.

One would hope that if his higher-ups had any idea he was capable of this sort of behavior, they wouldn't have had him teaching anyone. Apparently they trusted him, and he let them down.

Chazmek

03-06-2009, 11:43 AM

It wouldn't be fair to *assume* that because of his looks or his chronological age, he 1)couldn't teach well, 2)was mentally immature, or 3)would be preying on adolescents.

*waves*

Hehehe :)

BoulderDawg

03-06-2009, 11:50 AM

It wouldn't be fair to *assume* that because of his looks or his chronological age, he 1)couldn't teach well, 2)was mentally immature, or 3)would be preying on adolescents.

No one ever said life was fair.

If you have certain standards (Such as, no one under 25 teaches kids) then you less of a chance having these problems.

Taryn P.

03-06-2009, 11:59 AM

No one ever said life was fair.

If you have certain standards (Such as, no one under 25 teaches kids) then you less of a chance having these problems.

That's a dumb arbitrary rule.

Chronological age often has little relevance to maturity and to whether a person has enough of a moral compass to know better than to stalk adolescent students. I know a lot of people over 25 with very little maturity. Surf this board for proof.

lkfmdc

03-06-2009, 12:04 PM

I know a lot of people over 25 with very little maturity. Surf this board for proof.

you know that everyone on this board is between 12 and 13? Are you older :eek:

MODERATORS MODERATORS! We have a predator on the board, HELP HELP HELP

;)

Shaolinlueb

03-06-2009, 12:07 PM

then agian I am sure we all act this way in real life.

xcakid

03-06-2009, 01:12 PM

No one ever said life was fair.

If you have certain standards (Such as, no one under 25 teaches kids) then you less of a chance having these problems.

Age doesn't necessarily equal wisdom, discipline and intelligence. Case in point: http://cbs2.com/local/Costa.Mesa.United.2.921187.html

BoulderDawg

03-06-2009, 01:17 PM

Age doesn't necessarily equal wisdom, discipline and intelligence. Case in point: http://cbs2.com/local/Costa.Mesa.United.2.921187.html

So what? I can take any situation and point to an exception. That doesn't mean anything.

Did you not read "You have less of a chance"?

Should all the rental car companies start renting cars to teenagers because you could point to one or two 16 year olds that are great duvers?

xcakid

03-06-2009, 01:28 PM

Should all the rental car companies start renting cars to teenagers because you could point to one or two 16 year olds that are great duvers?

:Dmy point exactly. Whatever, rule or perceived rule you make, there will be exceptions to that rule.

BoulderDawg

03-06-2009, 01:36 PM

:Dmy point exactly. Whatever, rule or perceived rule you make, there will be exceptions to that rule.

So I'm assuming that if you ran a rental car agency you would do the opposite as everyone else in the industry and rent to 16 year olds?

You do know there are convicted child molestors that would be the safest baby sitters you could have. Should they be given the chance?

Taryn P.

03-06-2009, 02:04 PM

Taryn P.

03-06-2009, 02:09 PM

You do know there are convicted child molestors that would be the safest baby sitters you could have. Should they be given the chance?[/QUOTE]

That would be a judgement based on an individual's verifiable past behavior. As opposed to a judgement based on something a person has no control over (their chronological age) and generalizations linked to such. Big difference.

BoulderDawg

03-06-2009, 04:56 PM

Of course there are statistics, and they should not be wholly discounted. My point is that dumb arbitrary rules are- well, dumb. You should contemplate every situation as unique.

If you own a school and have a 20 year old student whom you've been teaching for years, has mad skills, is competant at teaching others, and you feel s/he is a decent moral person as far as you know, why on earth not have hir teach young students.

If you have another student who is 40, but you don't think would be as competant in this particular role (for whatever reason), you'd have hir teach instead just because s/he's 40? Senseless. Pick the best person for the job, to the best of your ability.

In my school there is a 17 year old who is able to pick up and retain forms better than anyone else there. He's a nice kid but no matter how good he is he should not be teaching other kids. It's as simply as that.

By having rules such as this you avoid things like "You let Johnny teach but I'm just as good as him"

Also, having done some teaching in the past it's very easy to be lured in by a pretty face (I've seen it several times) even for an adult......with an immature kid who teaching a pretty girl that tells him how good he is and giggles at the right places it's almost impossible to remain objective.

GeneChing

03-09-2009, 09:31 AM

Bubba. As it turns out, several of the Tiger Claw here crew know of Crispell, being that he's a local champion. One said that a lot of trickers carry plushies, but couldn't fathom why...

From Internet sensation to child molestation (http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_11863470?nclick_check=1)
By The phantom
DAILY News columnist
Posted: 03/07/2009 09:21:54 PM PST

A 20-year-old Foster City man arrested last week on suspicion of molesting a young girl had apparently developed a bit of an Internet following prior to his arrest.

Martial arts instructor Brendyn Crispell is charged with four felony counts of child molestation stemming from three separate incidents with a 13-year-old girl he met through a karate school, according to San Mateo County prosecutors. When San Carlos police arrested him Monday, they allegedly found a container of Vaseline and two stuffed animals in his car.

The Phantom plugged the suspect's unusual name into Google and came back with YouTube videos posted by a user named "brendyncrispell," who lives in Foster City, according to the user profile. We also turned up a MySpace page for a 20-year-old man named Brendyn "Bubba" Crispell with links to the same videos.

Bubba describes himself on MySpace as a "'Harry Potter' nerd" whose interests include "martial arts, TRICKING, good manga, and messing up." According to urbandictionary.com, tricking is "a kind of extreme sport where the 'athletes' do cool, fast, beautiful flips and kicks without any wires or trampolines."

The YouTube videos from 2007 and 2008 show a young man, also referred to as Bubba, performing a series of acrobatic kicks and other martial arts moves. As of Friday, a total of roughly 17,000 people had watched the clips, up from 16,500 views on Wednesday, when prosecutors charged Crispell with the felonies.

notanexit

03-09-2009, 10:47 PM

If anything I think this guy was probably a little too young and immature to be put teaching girls of that age. In that video clip of him he looks about 13 himself.

If it was my school I would let him work with the older students but I would put the kids with an adult.

I know this thread is about busted teachers.But where are the parents of this girl?They had no idea their 13 year old was with this guy?Do parents pay any attention to their children anymore?I think they deserve most of the blame.

BoulderDawg

03-10-2009, 12:17 AM

The article kinda of suggest that maybe the parents knew and condoned it. Stay tuned folks! I guess we'll find out!:D

Or maybe they felt their daughter was mature reguardless of her age to date a 20year old. It has been argued here that we should not look at chronological age. I can't agree with that.

xcakid

03-10-2009, 07:40 AM

I know this thread is about busted teachers.But where are the parents of this girl?They had no idea their 13 year old was with this guy?Do parents pay any attention to their children anymore?I think they deserve most of the blame.

Parents of today are too busy "keeping up with the Jones' " to know anything. Instead they blame it on the music kids listen to, games they play, movies/shows they watch, etc.

BTW all of which parents can control. :mad:

sanjuro_ronin

03-10-2009, 07:44 AM

Hmmm, if my daughter was 13 and some 20 year old was "trying to date her", what would I do?
Hmmm...
:mad:

7 year difference is not much when one is 20 and 27 and even less when one is 30 and 37, it is quite a bit when one is under the legal age of adulthood.

lkfmdc

03-10-2009, 08:24 AM

Hmmm, if my daughter was 13 and some 20 year old was "trying to date her", what would I do?
Hmmm...
:mad:

I have detailed specs for just such an operation in my basement, next to my SHOTGUN

:mad:

SimonM

03-10-2009, 08:36 AM

Hmmm, if my daughter was 13 and some 20 year old was "trying to date her", what would I do?
Hmmm...

Beat him about the head with a stout stick? :p

GeneChing

03-10-2009, 09:24 AM

a fine kettle of fish this...:rolleyes:

Updated: 03/09/09 03:17 PM
Martial arts expert mistakenly identified as Salamanca suspect (http://www.buffalonews.com/258/story/602098.html)

The Carl Lee Kettle who is a mixed martial artist fighting as "The Rezmanian Devil" was not arrested this weekend by Salamanca police, as was incorrectly reported in The News Monday.

Officers did arrest a Carl L. Kettle, 27, early Saturday on numerous charges. Salamanca Police Chief Troy J. Westfall had said Sunday that the man in custody was an "ultimate fighter," a designation that led to the confusion.

However, though both men share the same middle initial and both reside in Salamanca, the mixed martial artist, who is 31, is not accused of any crime.

A news release issued by Salamanca police Sunday stated that a Carl L. Kettle, of Salamanca, had been arrested early Saturday. When The News contacted Westfall to get more information on the arrest, the police chief said that the man in custody was an "ultimate fighter" and described the crimes with which Kettle is charged. This led to the misidentification.

The News learned this morning that the Carl L. Kettle arrested by Salamanca police is not the mixed martial artist Carl Lee Kettle.

The Carl L. Kettle arrested by Salamanca police faces charges of assault, harassment, disorderly conduct, obstruction of governmental administration and resisting arrest.

When an officer tried to arrest him, Kettle fled and led officers on a foot chase before he was caught and taken into custody.

After officers brought Kettle to police headquarters for processing and took off his handcuffs, Kettle refused to comply with their commands.

At one point, Kettle kicked an officer in the head, sending the officer backwards into the metal bars of a jail cell and briefly knocking him out, Westfall said.

Dale Dugas

03-10-2009, 10:04 AM

man, kicking brothers who wear the blue is not going to get you anything but pain, court time and lots of crimes added to your CV.

BoulderDawg

03-10-2009, 10:36 AM

Parents of today are too busy "keeping up with the Jones' " to know anything. Instead they blame it on the music kids listen to, games they play, movies/shows they watch, etc.

I just read this article about how young girls send nude pictures of themselves over the cell phone.....The article was about one girl who did this and then killed herself because she was getting harrassed............everyone was properly outraged....and, of course, the mother was blaming the cell phone, the school, the people who were harrassing her........everbody except herself. The girl had some serious problems other than a flirty picture of her that was being passed around.

You know, it seems like today the kids are actually getting more conservative. Back when I was in high school we didn't have cell phone or the internet but we still a few cases of girls taking nude pictures for their boyfriends that got passed around. Back then if you were caught with them they would probably be confiscated, parents were called...so on and so forth. Now a days, 14/15 year old boys are being arrested for child pornography, girls are killing themselves...What the hell is going on?

Dale Dugas

03-10-2009, 10:42 AM

passing round nude photos of undersage girls or boys is unacceptable by anyone even other girls.

Sorry you seem to have a liberal attitude with this, but its not something that should be done ever.

The laws are written and they are clear.

anyone doing these things is sending child porno to people.

Unacceptable.

I feel horrible that girls are killing themselves over this, but again they made the decision to do this. What did they think was going to happen?

It seems people have given up taking responsibility for their actions and then cry foul when something like this happens.

Baqualin

03-10-2009, 12:38 PM

I just read this article about how young girls send nude pictures of themselves over the cell phone.....The article was about one girl who did this and then killed herself because she was getting harrassed............everyone was properly outraged....and, of course, the mother was blaming the cell phone, the school, the people who were harrassing her........everbody except herself. The girl had some serious problems other than a flirty picture of her that was being passed around.

You know, it seems like today the kids are actually getting more conservative.
surely you meant more liberal:confused:

Back when I was in high school we didn't have cell phone or the internet but we still a few cases of girls taking nude pictures for their boyfriends that got passed around. Back then if you were caught with them they would probably be confiscated, parents were called...so on and so forth. Now a days, 14/15 year old boys are being arrested for child pornography, girls are killing themselves...What the hell is going on?

Like you and everyone is saying....parents aren't paying enough attention to what's going on around them...schools can't do anything without the risk of a law suit....kids now will tell you to go get fuked and laugh about it (my dad will have put me thru the wall just for talking back). I findly got my girlfriend (who lives with me) to let me handle her 3 kids.....they've been grounded for 2 weeks (until they start showing respect, manners and responsibility)...no TV during the school week...not allowed on the internet.....allowed things are reading, music, writing, art or sports (they stand on a ball and hold a wedge posture for 15 min. everyday:))
BQ

GeneChing

03-12-2009, 09:34 AM

Taping the car windows with blankets...:rolleyes:

Taekwondo teacher pleads not guilty to child molestation (http://www.mercurynews.com/peninsula/ci_11892865?nclick_check=1)
By Mike Rosenberg
Daily News Staff Writer
Posted: 03/11/2009 10:38:49 PM PDT

A 20-year-old Foster City resident and tae kwon do instructor pleaded not guilty on Wednesday to charges he molested a 13-year-old girl three times he met through martial arts class.

Prosecutors last week charged Brendyn Crispell with four counts of child molestation shortly after he was arrested in San Carlos.

Prosecutors said police caught Crispell, a tae kwon do student and junior instructor, in the act of oral copulation with the girl while they were parked in his mother's Honda station wagon on the 900 block of McCue Avenue in San Carlos on March 2. They said Crispell told authorities the sexual act was meant to celebrate the pair's four-month "anniversary," as the instructor knew sexual intercourse was illegal but thought copulation was not.

Police say they also found a container of Vaseline and stuffed animals in the station wagon. Crispell had taped up the car's windows with blankets, but a neighbor reported the car as suspicious. The girl had previously been dropped off at martial arts practice.

Crispell was also charged with kissing the girl on the same day, and on two previous occasions during the last four months.

Police said Crispell met the girl, whose city of residence has not been identified, through a martial arts school at which he worked. They had known each other for about four years and it did not appear the girl was being held against her will, authorities said.

Crispell first appeared in court on March 4 but his arraignment was delayed a week so he could retain a attorney from the county's Private Defender Program.

Crispell remains in custody in lieu of $200,000 bail. He will next appear in court on April 28. A date for his potential trial has not been set.

GeneChing

03-17-2009, 11:39 AM

We have many posts on Ung - you can backtrack it starting here (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?p=904364).

3 to 30.

Martial arts instructor sentenced for solicitation of murder (http://www.wwmt.com/articles/ung_1360273___article.html/instructor_murder.html)
March 16, 2009 - 5:14 PM

GRAND HAVEN, Mich. (NEWSCHANNEL 3) - The West Michigan karate instructor who admitted to trying to have the mother of his child killed has received his sentence.

Last July, Eang Ung offered an undercover officer $500 to kill the mother of his 5-year-old daughter, and promised to give more cash if that officer made sure no one ever found her body. At the time, Ung was a well-known instructor at Ung's Martial Arts in Holland.

In December, Ung pleaded guilty to solicitation of murder in Ottawa County Circuit Court.

Monday, Ung was sentenced to three to 30 years in prison, with a credit for six days served.

Holland martial arts instructor Eang Ung sentenced for trying to have ex-girlfriend killed (http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2009/03/holland_martial_arts_instructo.html)
by John Tunison | The Grand Rapids Press
Monday March 16, 2009, 12:11 PM

GRAND HAVEN -- A Holland martial arts instructor who tried to hire someone to kill his ex-girlfriend, the mother of his child, was sentenced today to more than three years in prison.

Eang Ung, 42, owner of Ung's Martial Arts, earlier pleaded guilty to solicitation of murder. Police say he wanted to hire someone to kill Linda Siripanya over a child custody battle. A fellow instructor at his school called police and he was captured in a sting.

Sentenced to 42 months to 30 years in prison, Ung apologized to both Siripanya and the Holland community.

"I am sorry from the bottom of my heart," he said. "I am committed to supporting our child. I feel absolutely awful for what I have done."
Linda Siripanya walks out of the Grand Haven courtroom after giving her victim statement before Eang Ung, a martial arts instructor in Holland, is sentenced for trying to hire someone kill her. Siripanya is Ung's ex-girlfriend.

"I acknowledge my mistake and my shame," he said. "I have no excuse for what I did but I know I will never reach such a depth again."

Siripanya, in a statement to the court, said the incident left her anxious and frightened, always looking over her shoulder.

"I feel anxious when someone I don't know approaches me," she said.

Dale Dugas

03-17-2009, 12:00 PM

You reap what you sow.

Nice to see more fools being removed from the society.

good luck in the big house.

xcakid

03-17-2009, 01:00 PM

.

good luck in the big house.

Maybe he will get to put that martial arts training to use while serving. :D

GeneChing

03-31-2009, 09:45 AM

See posts 108 (http://kungfuqigong.com/forum/showpost.php?p=842916&postcount=108), 263 (http://kungfuqigong.com/forum/showpost.php?p=899956&postcount=263) & 356 (http://kungfuqigong.com/forum/showpost.php?p=912960&postcount=356)

Martial Arts Instructor Sentenced (http://www.kbnd.com/327851.aspx)
Posted on Tuesday, March 31, 2009 (PST)

A former instructor of a Bend martial arts school has been sentenced to more than three years in prison for sexual abuse involving a 15-year old female student. Mark Froelich, 33 tearfully apologized to the court, and family and friends asked for leniency in the sentence. But Judge Stephen Tiktin said Froelich’s mistakes occurred over a period of time on several occasions.

GeneChing

04-03-2009, 09:11 AM

...poorly taught in martial etiquette.

Rutherford juvenile busted for stealing martial arts equipment (http://leadernewspapers.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=10060&new_topic=18)
By Alexis Tarrazi
Senior Reporter

RUTHERFORD (April 2, 2009, 4:20 p.m.) — A former student from United Family Martial Arts was recently arrested for stealing a large number of equipment materials, such as nunchucks and belts, in order to use for his own martial arts class at a nearby church, police said.

The 16-year-old Rutherford male was arrested and will soon be charged for burglary and theft, according to police.

Rutherford Police Detective Lt. Patrick Feliciano said the studio's owners reported the crime Monday, March 9 at 8 p.m. The owner believed the burglary occurred sometime between March 7 and March 9.

A laundry list of items were found missing from the 42 Park Ave. establishment, including three nunchucks, three duffel bags, 31 T-shirts, 15 martial arts belts, one windbreaker-type suit, four martial arts strike pads, four bags of throwing stars, two practice rubber knives, eight rolls of tape, 14 uniform patches, three key chains, one jump rope, six martial arts uniforms, two headbands and 10 orange cones.

“We do not have a value, but I am sure it was not cheap,” Feliciano said. “There were a lot of items there.”

No signs of forced entry were discovered at the scene, but Feliciano said the former student claimed he left behind some personal belongings in the basement and had to pick them up. “We believe when he came to retrieve his equipment, he propped another door open so he could later on enter undetected and take the stuff,” Feliciano said.

A lead from a witness helped connect the juvenile to the crime. The witness reported that Sunday, March 8 she had observed the juvenile at the front desk at approximately 10:45 a.m.

“As a result of the information, the Sensi was questioned and identified the person as the former student,” Feliciano said.

Through an interview, the student allegedly admitted to stealing the items and stashing them at a church on East Passaic Avenue. The juvenile claimed he used the equipment to teach a martial arts class on Sundays at the church, police said.

The equipment was recovered and returned to the owner. During the investigation, police believe that another juvenile, a 15-year-old male, also of Rutherford, was involved with the crime. An interview with the juvenile has yet to be scheduled.

lkfmdc

04-03-2009, 09:23 AM

A former instructor of a Bend martial art

he will be using a "bend martial art" quite a lot where he is going :D

GeneChing

04-06-2009, 09:19 AM

It's this kind of stuff that gives MMA a black eye...

Pro MMA fighter turns himself in for assaulting food critic (http://www.examiner.com/x-5954-Seattle-Martial-Arts-Examiner~y2009m4d5-Pro-MMA-fighter-turns-himself-in-for-assaulting-food-critic)
April 5, 8:32 AM
Gerald H. Spiegel

Last October in Guilderland, NY (a few miles outside Albany), a local Times Union food critic was assaulted by a professional MMA fighter -- and even now no one seems to know what prompted the unprovoked attack.

From Steve Barnes' blog:

"I noticed two guys walking in our direction. As it was a mostly full mall parking lot I didn’t register their presence until a few seconds later, when I realized they were walking quickly and purposefully toward us. And then, wordlessly, they started to swing their fists. They said nothing, just punched us both repeatedly in the face."

The attacker, Gerald H. Spiegel, 36, of Poestenkill NY, turned himself in to the police April 2nd.

Spiegel was a fighter (10-26-1)for Extreme Fighting International -- the same organization that held an event where UFC star Din Thomas played cornerman for one of his fighters in 2007.

Spiegel was arrested and charged with two counts of third-degree assault, a misdemeanor. He was arraigned in town court and released on $1,000 bail.

BoulderDawg

04-06-2009, 10:19 AM

There's a lot odd about that story.

First of all the time line. This happened 7 months ago but the guy is just now turning himself in? What's up with that?

Also there was suppose to be two attackers. Where's the other guy?

They also didn't mention anything about this guy being prone to doing things like this.

Finally, they released him on only a $1,000 bail with just a third degree assault charge.

****************

The first thought would be it was a case of mistaken identity. I don't think so. I think Mr. Food Critic is not telling us the entire story.

xcakid

04-06-2009, 02:43 PM

well the guy that got beat probably was wearing a shirt with the infamous pic "MMA: its only gay if you make eye contact"

One can argue that the alleged attackers were provoked. Hence the minimal charge and bail. :D

Raipizo

04-06-2009, 07:34 PM

for Gene's post i have to say i dislike UFC's brand of MMA they think they are all that because they can bash eachother to a bloody pulp.

GeneChing

04-13-2009, 10:33 AM

I don't know Earle. I've met Gumby - he's a big supporter of HHCF (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41817) too.

One rape conviction is overturned, but world-class fighter faces another (http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_12119672?nclick_check=1)
By Sean Webby
Mercury News
Posted: 04/12/2009 07:35:00 PM PDT
Updated: 04/12/2009 09:09:43 PM PDT

When an appellate court threw out the attempted rape conviction against Cameron Lee Earle, a world-class jujitsu black belt from San Jose, his friends in the martial arts community celebrated his shot at redemption.

But the 32-year-old champion fighter's victory was short-lived: A just-discovered DNA match allegedly ties him to another violent sexual assault in San Jose.

"Oh my god, that's awful,'' said Alan "Gumby" Marques, who runs a San Jose martial arts academy and is one of Earle's closest friends. "I hope it's not him. But if it is him. "...''

Earle's up-and-down path through the legal system peaked last month when a Sixth District Appellate Court judge called his trial "grossly unfair." But now it has come to light that a mandatory DNA sample he provided in prison turned up a hit in the state's database for unsolved sex crimes. He has yet to be tried for that crime.

Earle had gone from a champion fighter to disgraced sex felon; and now he moves from possible freedom to a possible life sentence as a violent serial sex criminal.

"I said during his trial that he was a predator; the facts of his former case demonstrated that he is a sexual predator,'' said prosecutor Rob Baker. "This new case doesn't surprise me.''

The fall of the once-talented martial arts fighter began in 2004. Earle — who lived in San Jose — had honed his Brazilian-style jujitsu skills to the point that he was dominating some of the world's best with his choke holds and locks with his powerful dragon-tattooed arm.

He was focused, almost obsessed, his friends said, training incessantly, living on little money and falling asleep as he studied grainy old videotapes of fights in Brazil.

That September a woman told police that a man in a car had exposed himself to her in a trailer park. "Come here "... come here,'' he called out to her. Seeking help, she banged on a trailer door and the man drove away. But not before she got a license plate number.

The number eventually led police to Earle.

Then early one morning around Christmas, a woman was setting up a tamale stand in a San Jose supermarket. She leaned into her car to get some supplies when she was attacked from behind by a man speaking broken Spanish. After her head was smashed into the steering wheel and she was stabbed with a knife in her arm, the woman managed to escape. Less than a week later she saw a driver in an SUV who looked exactly like her attacker. She called her brother-in-law; they followed the man home and called the police. With police officers watching, the woman identified Earle as her attacker.

Over the objections of Earle's lawyer, the prosecutor tried both the indecent misdemeanor and attempted rape charge together, under the theory that the lesser crime showed that he was more likely to commit the attempted rape.

The jury convicted Earle on both. He was sentenced to more than five years in prison.

But last month two of three appellate judges agreed to overturn the attempted sexual assault conviction.

Trying the two crimes together had led to "a grossly unfair" trial,'' wrote Presiding Judge Conrad Rushing. While the decision to join the crimes belonged to the trial judge, Rushing also criticized Baker for using "spurious legal theories," comparing the lesser crime to "DNA evidence" and citing as proof that Earle was "a predator" and "a scary guy.''

Dissenting judge Nathan Mihara concluded that Baker's comments were entirely appropriate and the trial was not prejudiced. The appellate court ruling did not mean the justices exonerated Earle, and he can still be retried on the charges.

But Earle's old friends, some of whom had kept him abreast of fighting news during his imprisonment, had been ecstatic at the result and convinced of his innocence. To them, the allegations never made sense.

Why would he use a knife? How could the woman have escaped the grasp of a man who could hold some of the world's best martial artists in a grasp so powerful that they passed out?

"That's the equivalent of somebody saying in court that they beat Michael Jordan in a pickup game of basketball,'' Marques said.

But now Earle's character has again been cast into doubt.

On Christmas Eve 2003, a San Jose woman was putting presents under her tree as her husband and two children slept upstairs. A masked man barged in and held a knife to her throat as she pleaded for her life. He sexually assaulted her and, putting her in a bathroom, fled with money and a coffee pot.

DNA left in the woman's hair, law enforcement authorities say, is that of Earle.

Prosecutors say they may try the old and new sexual assault cases together.

Jimbo

04-13-2009, 02:52 PM

Well, if it was him, it doesn't mean he wouldn't use a knife to commit a crime, no matter how good his jiu-jitsu skills. A knife brandished during a crime is often used to intimidate the victim in and of itself. Maybe he didn't want to choke the woman and make her 'pass out', but might get off on inducing terror, or figured stabbing someone would be quicker and easier than choking her out.

GeneChing

04-15-2009, 11:03 AM

What styles do they practice in East Timor?

East Timorese martial arts gangs pose risk to Australia: report (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/04/15/2543146.htm)
Posted Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:20am AEST

East Timor's notorious martial arts gangs are growing in size and strength and pose an increasing threat to Australia's security, a new report says.

The failure to curb criminal activities by the gangs could lead to Australia having to spend more money on aid and security in the fledgling nation, says the joint report from the non-governmental organisation Austcare and the Geneva-based Small Arms Survey.

It warns gangs responsible for the majority of the violence that plagued East Timor in 2006 are still active.

The report's author James Scambary says extortion and protection rackets in the country's commercial sector are exacerbated by the large number of foreigners contributing to the economy.

"The mass of foreign presence is providing a boom in construction, in hospitality, prostitution, gambling and a range of other activities so there's a lot of profits to be made," he said.

Some of the gangs have links to larger crime syndicates in China and Indonesia, Mr Scambary says.

He warns the maritime border between East Timor and Australia is poorly policed.

"There is potential for drugs or weapons importation and various other things."

Australia may be forced to make a long term police and military commitment to East Timor if the gang problem is not resolved, he says.

xcakid

04-15-2009, 12:25 PM

Funny, Australia's gun ban was suppose to stop criminal activites. :D

When will governments realize its not the tool that causes crime.

Xiao3 Meng4

04-15-2009, 05:01 PM

It would be nice if this report named the gangs.

Here are two websites which describe the situation in greater detail:

"The Regulation of Martial Arts in East Timor" (NowPublic, Jan 11, 2009)
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/regulation-martial-arts-east-timor

The alignment of some martial arts groups with political factions fed into and escalated the disintegration of law and order in 2006 and the infiltration of these groups into the security forces has further exacerbated the problem. The link between political parties and some of the gangs is well established, although few are willing to talk about it openly, let alone acknowledge that politicians have paid young people to commit crimes. PSHT (Persaudaraan Setia Hati Terate – Lotus Faithful Heart Brotherhood) originated in Indonesia, and has branches in most of East Timor's districts. The gang is widely perceived as being close to the Democrat Party and the Social Democratic Party, and is believed to have heavily infiltrated the security forces. PSHT is also in open rivalry with another martial arts group, Korka, aligned with Fretilin, the country's main political party. It is not that the political parties have formal links with the youth gangs but there are, for example, some important Korka leaders in Dili who are also Fretilin members. At the local level, there are also members of Korka who are members of Fretilin.

Senior members of the East Timor National Police (PNTL) are also members of or control gangs. A key problem with the PNTL is that some of its members moonlight for the gangs, for political parties, or for other groups which command a higher degree of loyalty than the institution of the national police force. For example, the Baucau PNTL district commander was allegedly a member of the Kera Sakti martial arts group which is battling PSHT (who, on the other hand, apparently count a local PNTL sub-district commander as a member in their ranks) for dominance in the city.(1A) Former Dili police district commander, Abilio Mesquito ("Mausoko"), is also suspected of being a member of PSHT and actively particpated in the 2006 violence. Mesquito was jailed for his part in an attack on the residence of F-FDTL Commander Taur Matan Ruak's during the 2006 crisis.

"Dilli's dark art" (The Diplomat, 27 Aug 2008)
http://www.the-diplomat.com/article.aspx?aeid=8727

Since independence in 2002, martial arts have emerged as a nationwide cult. Almost every young person belongs, or at least has loyalties, to a group. With 60 per cent of the nation’s million-strong population below the age of 18, there is no shortage of recruits eager for a sense of belonging, not to mention a street-credibility boost.

Sacred Heart, which originated in Java and arrived in Timor in the early 1980s, boasts 30,000 members; Seti Seti (Seven Seven), a group rooted more in clandestine Timorese magic than karate kicks, claims 11,000; Korka, with Catholic leanings, 20,000. There are also Five Five, Kung Fu Master, Aqui Jaz, Sagrada Familia and more. Even those youngsters that don’t belong to a group have a name derived from martial arts culture: “Zero Zero”.

The second link is well written and worth a look, even just for the image at the top of the page.

No word yet on what MAs are being practiced besides Seti Seti's "Magic Fu."

Jimbo

04-17-2009, 10:27 PM

I wouldn't doubt that many of these MA's include various systems of Silat.

GeneChing

04-21-2009, 09:38 AM

Here's some backstory (the original posted link is broken, but you can pick it up from here) - 80 (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?p=831105), 85 (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?p=832751), 90 (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?p=833611). Trent Young is the perp who brought the term 'karate rape' into my vocabulary. :mad:

Third victim comes forward in sex case against karate instructor (http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090420/NEWS/90420047)
By Heather Yakin
Times Herald-Record
Posted: April 20, 2009 - 5:16 PM

MIDDLETOWN — A new indictment has been handed up in federal court, adding a third victim to prosecutors’ claims that former karate instructor Trent Young sexually abused teenage girls at his martial arts school.

Young, 40, was a 10-year New York Police Department veteran who lived on Maple Drive in Middletown with his wife and their three children. On Dec. 27, 2007, Middletown police arrested him on rape charges.

One of his karate students told police he had forced her into having sex 20 to 40 times.

Federal prosecutors took over when that girl and another girl told officials that Young had driven them to West Milford, N.J., where his Iron Tiger Martial Arts school was based, for sex.

The feds indicted Young on three counts of transporting a minor across state lines for illegal sexual activity, a felony under the federal Mann Act.

On April 15, federal prosecutors filed a new indictment charging Young with seven counts of transporting a minor for illegal sex activity. The new indictment adds two charges relating to a third girl.

Victims 1 and 2, as they are referred to in the indictment, were from the Middletown area. The indictment claims Young took them from Middletown to West Milford, N.J. for sex, between November 2006 and September 2007 for Victim 1 and in late 2006 for Victim 2.

The indictment says that Young took Victim 3 from Brooklyn to Middletown via West Milford, N.J. for sex in 2003. At the time, Young taught karate at his Middletown home.

Young posted $25,000 bail on the state charges, but the federal court sent him to federal detention without bail. He’s been there since his Jan. 7, 2008, arraignment in U.S. District Court.

According to court papers, the Youngs’ home in Middletown went into foreclosure. His wife took a job in retail to support the children, and the family moved to Queens.

Young’s case is set for a court conference on Tuesday. The U.S. Attorney’s office has asked that the trial, set to begin May 26, go forward as scheduled. Young’s lawyer, Gary Greenwald, has requested a postponement because of the new indictment.

GeneChing

04-27-2009, 09:53 AM

Refer to earlier posts: 2 (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?p=816635) & 111 (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?p=844646).

Ex-karate instructor sentenced for sex abuse (http://www.newsday.com/news/local/crime/ny-likara2512692815apr24,0,109244.story)
BY ZACHARY R. DOWDY 9:13 PM EDT, April 24, 2009

The students of James Bonfiglio's karate school called him "sensei," a term of high respect for martial arts teachers that signifies the special relationship the sport forges between instructor and pupil.

But on Friday, parents of the 12 boys who accused Bonfiglio of manipulating them into performing sexual acts - crimes Bonfiglio admitted - had other names for the 38-year-old, who had betrayed those who trusted him the most.

"You are a monster and a predator," one parent said in Suffolk County Court Judge Barbara Kahn's courtroom in Riverhead just before Bonfiglio was sentenced. He received 6 to 18 years in prison for 70 counts of sex-related charges.

Another called Bonfiglio a "beast," urging Kahn to impose the maximum sentence of 10 to 20 years in prison.

"What had begun as innocent turned sinister," the parent said, saying that Bonfiglio stole the boy's innocence when he coaxed him into sexual encounters, sometimes while at the Ronkonkoma karate school.

One boy, whose statement was read at the sentencing, was baffled at how he had fallen victim to Bonfiglio, writing, "How could this happen to a normal kid like me in a normal family in a normal town?"

After four statements were read, Bonfiglio stood, faced Kahn and said he was "sorry for everything."

His attorney, Anthony La Pinta of Hauppauge, said his client was remorseful and that he is a "loving family man" whose relatives support him despite his admissions.

In March, Bonfiglio pleaded guilty to 70 counts of charges related to sex acts dating back to 2003 with students, some as young as 13, at his Excel Karate Academy and with a boy at a Smithtown karate school where he used to teach.

His sentence was agreed upon in exchange for his guilty plea to all counts. Kahn also permanently barred Bonfiglio from contacting any victims.

The charges included sexual abuse, use of a child in a sexual performance, unlawful surveillance and endangering the welfare of a child.

The charges also covered explicit videos Bonfiglio secretly took of his sex acts with the boys through hidden cameras placed in the bathrooms of his school and apartment and even his parents' Ronkonkoma home.

Suffolk prosecutor Keri Herzog, who also asked the judge to give Bonfiglio the maximum, said he had committed a "betrayal of trust, a betrayal of friendship." She praised the victims and their families.

"The 12 named victims," she said, "these are my heroes. These children and the parents that have stood behind them are my heroes."

Bonfiglio was arrested in October 2007 after a 13-year-old boy told his mother he had sex with Bonfiglio. Police investigators found the videos and hidden cameras in the school and his home, as well as explicit photos and text messages.

Mas Judt

04-27-2009, 10:37 AM

You cannot forget the impact of religion on the strife in East Timor. Most of the groups listed where they did NOT mention religion are gangs of Muslims taught from birth to 'beat the non-believers about the neck until they submit, pay the jizya (extortion) or convert."

Gangs of pesilat go around beheading Christian school girls to show the 'power' of their faith. It gets really scary when you mix stone-age religous militant religous beliefs with bladed martial arts.

Add that the customary tradition of piracy and skull duggery and you have a real problem.

(Not all Pesilat engage in this behavior FWIW - but the complete lack of any mention of the religious edicts provoking the violence demonstrates a real blindness on the part of the authors)

GeneChing

04-29-2009, 09:13 AM

See post #272. (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=905335&postcount=272)

Karate teacher gets state prison for sex with teen student (http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2009/04/karate_teacher_gets_state_pris.html)
by MATT MILLER, Of The Patriot-News
Tuesday April 28, 2009, 5:50 PM

A former Cedar Cliff High School teacher and private karate instructor was sentenced to 5 to 10 years in state prison this afternoon for having sex with a 15-year-old female martial arts student. The sentence Cumberland County President Judge Edgar B. Bayley imposed on Michael Zrncic, 32, of Upper Allen Township, was mandatory for Zrncic's guilty plea to aggravated indecent assault.

Authorithies said Zrncic had sex with the teen at his Z's Karate Studio in Hampden Township. They said he came under investigation after he sent inappropriate e-mails to the teen in April 2008.

BoulderDawg

04-29-2009, 09:21 AM

Authorithies said Zrncic had sex with the teen at his Z's Karate Studio in Hampden Township. They said he came under investigation after he sent inappropriate e-mails to the teen in April 2008.

Isn't that like holding up a big sign that says "I'm in love with a 15 year old girl!":D

GeneChing

05-04-2009, 09:31 AM

I got nothing on Pupa.

Ex-MMA fighter sentenced for punching NV trooper (http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_12280548?nclick_check=1)
The Associated Press
Posted: 05/02/2009 02:42:08 PM PDT
Updated: 05/02/2009 02:42:10 PM PDT

RENO, Nev.—A former mixed martial arts cage fighter has been sentenced to one year in jail for punching a Nevada Highway Patrol trooper who pulled him over for drunken driving.

Joshua Pupa, 28, of Fall River, Mass., was sentenced Friday in Washoe County District Court to the maximum term after earlier pleading guilty to a gross misdemeanor charge of battery on a police officer.

Pupa, who now is a construction worker, also pleaded guilty Friday to drunken driving in Reno Justice Court.

He was accused of assaulting a trooper who suffered head, wrist and knee injuries. Another trooper had to twice fire his Taser gun at Pupa to stop the Oct. 24 attack in Reno.

According to his lawyer, Pupa is a former high school wrestler who tried MMA fighting and retired four years ago. His record was 2-2.

Ex-martial arts fighter gets 1 year for battery (http://www.rgj.com/article/20090502/NEWS01/905020333/1321/NEWS)
By Jaclyn O'Malley • jomalley@rgj.com • May 2, 2009

A 28-year-old former professional mixed martial arts cage fighter from the East Coast was sentenced to one year in jail Friday for attacking and punching a state trooper who pulled him over last year for drunken driving.

Joshua David Pupa of Fall River, Mass., had pleaded guilty to the 2 a.m., Oct. 24 assault on the Nevada Highway Patrol trooper who suffered head, wrist and knee injuries. Another trooper had to twice fire his Taser gun at Pupa, including at his head, to stop the attack on the roadway near U.S. 395 and Moana Lane. Washoe District Judge Brent Adams sentenced Pupa to the maximum term of

12 months in jail on the gross misdemeanor of battery on a police officer. Pupa, who works in construction, also pleaded guilty Friday to drunken driving in Reno Justice Court, said his attorney, David Houston.

When Pupa was arrested, troopers found a card issued to him from the New Jersey State Athletic Commission that identified Pupa as a certified martial artist. According to several mixed martial arts Web sites, Pupa fought in two professional and two amateur MMA cage events in New Jersey and Massachusetts. His record was

2-2, and his last recorded fight was in October 2005.

Pupa is 5 feet 11 inches and weighs 225 pounds.

Houston said Pupa is not really a certified martial artist, rather a former high school wrestler who tried MMA fighting and retired four years ago. Pupa, he said, just kept the athletic commission card in his wallet, which he described as registration card to enter the fights.

The athletic commission did not respond Friday to a request about Pupa's current status.

According to court records, Pupa told troopers he had drank most of a bottle of vodka, that he has a drinking problem and also smoked marijuana. A glass pipe and a small amount of residue also was found in Pupa's possession.

Court records show that the state's department of public safety filed a civil lawsuit against Pupa in November demanding he forfeit to the state the $7,500 he had in his wallet when arrested. He had claimed no knowledge of the money. The case still is pending.

GeneChing

05-05-2009, 09:56 AM

Bruno? Can you get more stereotyped with a name like Bruno? Isn't Bruno a popular name for pitbulls?

Martial arts experts charged with beating (http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2009_05_05_Martial_arts_experts_charged_with_beati ng/srvc=home&position=recent)
By Associated Press
Tuesday, May 5, 2009 - Added 6h ago

BOSTON — Three martial arts experts who allegedly beat two other men outside a McDonald’s restaurant have been ordered to surrender their passports.

The Suffolk District Attorney’s office says 23-year-old Bruno Dacosta of Everett; 25-year-old Iury Debs of Lynn; and 23-year-old Diego Santos of Everett were each held on $2,500 bail and ordered not to leave the state at their arraignment Monday in Chelsea District Court.

The three men pleaded not guilty to two counts each of aggravated assault and battery.

Prosecutors say the suspects beat the victims early Monday morning after a confrontation earlier at a Revere club.

The defendants allegedly knocked the victims to the ground, then kicked and slapped them.

Authorities say one of the victims was hurt so severely that he could have permanent brain damage.

Somerville martial arts instructors arrested after allegedly delivering severe beating (http://www.wickedlocal.com/somerville/news/x1194154554/Three-men-from-Somerville-martial-arts-studio-arrested-after-allegedly-delivering-severe-beatings)
Posted May 04, 2009 @ 06:02 PM
Last update May 04, 2009 @ 06:27 PM
Chelsea —

The following is from the office of Suffolk County District Attorney Daniel F. Conley.

Three martial arts experts were ordered to surrender their passports today following their arraignments on charges that they beat a pair of Revere man outside a Chelsea restaurant, injuring one man so badly that he may suffer permanent brain damage as a result, Suffolk County District Attorney Daniel F. Conley said today.

Acting on a request by Assistant District Attorney Jennifer Lindade, Chelsea District Court Judge James LaMothe ordered BRUNO DACOSTA (D.O.B. 6/7/85) of Everett, IURY DEBS (D.O.B. 1/7/84) of Lynn, and DIEGO SANTOS (D.O.B. 9/16/85) of Everett not to leave Massachusetts while their cases are pending and to surrender their passports to the court. Lindade recommended that each man be held on $50,000 cash bail each; LaMothe set bail at $2500 each.

Two suspects are listed as instructors with the Brazilian Martial Arts Center at 700 Mystic Ave. in Somerville on the center's website.

Diego Santos' qualifications on the website are listed as "Muay Thai Brown Belt Instructor, Tae Kwon Do Black Belt under Mestre Milclei, 4 Times Associação Milclei Tae Kwon Do Champion, 3 Times Rio de Janeiro State Tae Kwon Do Champion, 2 Times MMA Heavyweight Champion."

Iury Debs' experience is listed as "Muay-thai black tip professor, Purple belt Brazilian Jiu-jitsu
Light heavy weight Naga Champion, BMAC Brazilian Jiu-jitsu Champion, 6 year experience in Judo and GO Estate (Brazil) Champion in Judo."

Each defendant is charged with two counts of aggravated assault and battery, with those charges reflecting injuries to two men inflicted during an attack in the parking lot of a Revere Beach Parkway McDonalds at about 1:30 Monday morning. Investigators believe the two groups had first crossed paths at Club Lido in Revere a short time earlier.

Witnesses told investigators that Santos struck one of the victims, a 22-year-old Revere man, in the face with no provocation, knocking him to the ground. When another man, also a Revere resident, approached the assailants, Debs allegedly punched him in the back of the head and knocked him to the ground. All three assailants kicked and slapped the two victims as they lay on the ground.

Friends of the first victim rushed him to Whidden Memorial Hospital, where doctors ordered him transported to Massachusetts General Hospital for surgery. He was operated upon and placed in an intensive care unit with severe head trauma and possible brain damage.

The second victim was also transported to Whidden Memorial, where he was treated for a broken jaw. That man’s injuries required that his jaw be wired shut and further required reconstructive surgery.

Victims and civilian witnesses were able to identify the assailants by name and photo. All three, witnesses said, were affiliated with a Somerville martial arts center. Acting on that information, Chelsea Police detectives obtains warrants for their arrests and took them into custody early this morning.

Dacosta is represented by attorney Jose Espinosa, Debs by attorney Bruce Linson, and Santos by attorney Hillary Price. All three will return to court on June 10.

GeneChing

05-11-2009, 09:36 AM

She was trying to get away.

Boynton Beach man in apparent murder-suicide self taught children martial arts in Lake Worth (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=931901)
By MICHAEL LaFORGIA and WILLIE HOWARD
Palm Beach Post Staff Writers
Sunday, May 10, 2009

A man who authorities said shot and killed his estranged wife and then fatally shot himself on Saturday was a popular martial arts instructor who often dealt with children, according to past interviews and public records.

About 2:45 p.m. Saturday, Dillard confronted his wife, Sarah Covington Crews, 33, at a friend's suburban Boynton Beach house at 3750 N. Seacrest Blvd., where she had moved to escape Dillard.

He shot her dead, said Deputy Eric Davis, Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office spokesman.

Dillard then went back to his house, at 3800 N. Seacrest Blvd., barricaded himself inside and apparently shot himself to death before a SWAT team could intervene, Davis said.

Dillard, a black belt who won a gold medal in the sparring category at the Amateur Athletic Union state championships in 2006, never had been arrested in Florida, state records show.

For her part, Crews, who would attend Dillard's martial arts demonstrations, had fled a violent relationship at least once before.

Court records show she sought a judge's protection from a violent husband in April 2005 before she divorced him five months later.

While married to the same man, Crews was arrested on a child abuse charge after Riviera Beach police accused her of shaving her daughter's head after her husband beat the girl with a belt.

At the time, Crews had four children - three girls and a boy.

A judge opted to withhold adjudication in Crews' case, records show.

Nothing in court records hinted that Crews, who married Dillard in September 2007, was having problems in her marriage, although sheriff's deputies recently had been called to Dillard's house after the couple had an argument, police said.

Authorities said the couple had split up about six months ago.

After Dillard barricaded himself in his house, swarming police startled his neighborhood on an otherwise quiet Saturday afternoon.

Percy Helton, who lives at 3850 Seacrest Blvd., had meatloaf in the oven and meatballs on the stove Saturday afternoon when sheriff's deputies knocked on his door and made him and his neighbors move to the parking lot of Sam's Club, about half a mile north.

Helton persuaded deputies to let him go back to his house long enough to turn off the stove. But he and other neighbors along the four-lane stretch of Seacrest Boulevard were displaced for about three hours while SWAT team members worked outside the pumpkin-colored house where Dillard's body was found.

Francisco Baltazar took his 5-year-old son and 1-year-old daughter shopping after deputies knocked on his door and told him to evacuate the house.

"I was scared to death," said Mary Dupuis, who lives next door to the house at 3750 Seacrest Blvd. where Crews was shot. "The whole road was filled with police cars and trucks."

Dupuis said deputies broke holes in the wooden fence separating her yard from her neighbor's.

"Every time I tried to come out I was told to get in my house," Dupuis said. "I'm just glad it's over."

BoulderDawg

05-11-2009, 09:56 AM

Just reading between the lines a little.....

I think this woman was extremely turned on by violence and graviated towards men who exhibited it. She enjoyed the violence directed at other people. However when it was directed towards her then it wasn't too exciting.

Of course, sooner or later, extremely violent men are going to lash out at whatever is in their path. It would be like keeping a wild tiger as a pet.

Not much sympathy here. I think both husbands and the woman needed extreme help.

Taryn P.

05-11-2009, 11:02 AM

[QUOTE=BoulderDawg;933864]Just reading between the lines a little.....

I think this woman was extremely turned on by violence and graviated towards men who exhibited it. She enjoyed the violence directed at other people. However when it was directed towards her then it wasn't too exciting.

QUOTE]

That's quite an illogical leap.

The FACTS are that most women in relationships with abusive men are there because they have no self esteem (many grew up in homes where dad was abusive as well) and believe that 1)they deserve no better and 2)there is no way out. Turn-ons enter into the equation not at all.

Hey, I was held at shotgun point yesterday by two police officers for the appalling crime of doing a standing meditation in the park. Can I list myself in this thread now?

BoulderDawg

05-11-2009, 11:16 AM

Shaolinlueb

05-11-2009, 11:26 AM

mma fighter from mass punches trooper.

3 mma teachers attack 2 outside club in boston area.

haha oh man. feel bad for the victim's.

Taryn P.

05-11-2009, 11:34 AM

It didn't appear to me that she was the type that saw "no way out". As I said, once the violence became a fist coming up side her head she was out of there fairly quickly.

Also, it appears she participated in violence against her own children.

We don't really have enough details to judge.

She was not CONVICTED of any child abuse.

She did leave- but who knows how much violence she suffered before leaving. It was probably constant from the very beginning of the relationship.

People who don't know anything about the dynamics of these situations often can't understand why the "no way out" mentality... why the victim doesn't "just leave".

1)Again, these women have no self esteem and believe they deserve to be abused. They have no self empowerment and believe that they are incapable of getting along on their own.

2)After a lifetime of this (again, usually violence was also present in the family of origin, and women will often choose abusive partners repeatedly), it becomes "normal" and familiar. They don't know it can (should) be otherwise.

3)There is an incredible culture of secrecy about domestic abuse, and an incredible amount of shame and embarrassment in being involved in it. Even more so for the victim than the abuser. The abuser almost always believes his actions are justified and that he is entitled to beat his victim, and the victim almost always believes that she deserves it.

A lot of people (looking pointedly at BoulderDawg) still blame the victim instead of the abuser, and think that she is stupid (at the very least) for not just leaving.

4)Abusers routinely cut their victims off from their friends and families and control their every move. Thus they have no one to go to for help and no resources with which to "just leave"... especially if they have kids to take care of as well.

5)Abusers develop a very powerful control over their victims that is nothing short of brainwash. They constantly enforce that the victim deserves her fate, that there is no way out, that she is incapable of surviving on her own, that if she tries to leave he will kill her. Also, there is a constant promise that everything will be better in the morning and this will never happen again. It is really a case of living in a very skewed altered reality, that no one can truly comprehend unless they've lived inside of it.

Shaolinlueb

05-11-2009, 11:36 AM

good post from taryn

BoulderDawg

05-11-2009, 12:25 PM

We don't really have enough details to judge.

She was not CONVICTED of any child abuse.

She did leave- but who knows how much violence she suffered before leaving. It was probably constant from the very beginning of the relationship.

People who don't know anything about the dynamics of these situations often can't understand why the "no way out" mentality... why the victim doesn't "just leave".

But she did leave. If the story is correct she left about a year after getting married. Which does not really indicate being trapped and isolated in a relationship. And none of those points you mentioned really seemed to fit this woman's situation.

Also, the parts about her children were very distrubing. The story mentioned she had four children. I thnk the key word here is "had". I'm thinking the state took those kids away from her after that shaving of the head incident. You know normal people just don't do that.

Taryn P.

05-11-2009, 01:14 PM

But she did leave. If the story is correct she left about a year after getting married. Which does not really indicate being trapped and isolated in a relationship. And none of those points you mentioned really seemed to fit this woman's situation.

Also, the parts about her children were very distrubing. The story mentioned she had four children. I thnk the key word here is "had". I'm thinking the state took those kids away from her after that shaving of the head incident. You know normal people just don't do that.

It is the very, very rare domestic abuse case that does *not* fit the points I listed. It tends to be pretty textbook. I don't see anything at all in that story to indicate it does not fit the typical pattern.

Yes, the part accusing her of abusing the children is disturbing. She could very well have had a lot of problems of her own. She could very well have been an abuser herself. And/or her dear sweet hubby- who as I have described probably controlled her every move like a puppet-master- made her shave the kid's head and she followed orders. Remember that she shaved the child's head after *he* beat the child with a belt. Not that that makes head-shaving okay, but he's still quite a bit ahead of her on the point scale of evil. He probably beat all the kids with the same clockwork regularity as he beat his wife. Where's all the outrage at **HIM**??

Yao Sing

05-11-2009, 05:01 PM

"The defendants allegedly knocked the victims to the ground, then kicked and slapped them."

"Two suspects are listed as instructors with the Brazilian Martial Arts Center at 700 Mystic Ave. in Somerville on the center's website."

So a couple of BJJ instructors DID NOT go to the ground in a real fight?

Did the 'ground n pound' turn into 'crap n slap'?

GeneChing

05-19-2009, 09:42 AM

They're really working the MMA angle in this story. It makes me ponder at what point does someone become classified as an MMA Fighter. I know a lot of people that train in MMA, but I'm not sure if I classify them so until they step on the mat or in the cage.

Accused Vegas Killer A Mixed-Martial Arts Fighter (http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/19493393/detail.html)
Friends Leave Messages On Hall's MySpace Page
POSTED: 10:16 am PDT May 18, 2009
UPDATED: 10:40 am PDT May 18, 2009

LAS VEGAS -- The Las Vegas man charged with killing a former co-worker outside Caesars Palace is a mixed-martial arts fighter who nicknamed himself “King Daddy.”

Bryan Hall, 28, appeared in court Monday morning. He is charged with murder and robbery with a deadly weapon in the killing of 27-year-old Bradley Flamm.

Police said Flamm and Hall worked together last year at the Trevi Italian restaurant inside the Forum Shops at Caesars Palace. Flamm’s body was found behind the casino last week.

Hall’s MySpace features photographs of him taking part in a tournament sponsored by the North American Grappling Association. The organization lists Hall on its Web site, but said the fighter has not placed at a ranked event.

A friend of Hall’s named “Tiphanie” left a message on the MySpace site reading “Babe I sit here and think why? It hurts my heart to know where you’re sitting right now. I wish I would have just answered your call Sunday night then things maybe would be different.”

Police said Hall killed Flamm sometime after midnight Monday, May 11. They have not yet offered a possible motive in the case.

According to a police report, Hall left DNA, fingerprints and footprints at the crime scene, and was also seen on surveillance video around the time Flamm was killed.

GeneChing

05-29-2009, 09:43 AM

dressing room voyeurs - how weak is that?

Guilford martial arts studio owner charged with voyeurism (http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2009/05/29/news/doc4a1ff3f897980445905749.txt)
Published: Friday, May 29, 2009
By Rachael Scarborough King, Register Staff

GUILFORD – Police arrested the owner of the United Studios of Self Defense martial arts academy on Boston Post Road for allegedly videotaping employees and at least one underage student while they were undressed.

Joseph Moscatelli, 43, was arrested Thursday evening and charged with two counts of voyeurism and one count of risk of injury/impairing the morals of a minor, according to police.

Moscatelli also owns the United Studios of Self Defense on North Main Street in Branford, police said. Branford police have been informed of the investigation.

Guilford police responded to a complaint about possible voyeurism at the martial arts studio at about 9:30 p.m. Thursday, police said. Information collected at the scene led to Moscatelli’s arrest. He was released on a promise to appear in New Haven Superior Court on June 9.

xcakid

05-29-2009, 09:55 AM

dressing room voyeurs - how weak is that?

Oh crap!! I knew Joe when I was at USSD. Dang, never thought he would that kind of person.

lkfmdc

05-29-2009, 09:58 AM

USSD?

United Studios of Sexual Deviants? :eek:

GeneChing

05-29-2009, 10:10 AM

Do tell. When was that?

lkfmdc

05-29-2009, 10:14 AM

actually, he sold me some "intersting" pictures of xcakid :eek:

:D

Dale Dugas

05-29-2009, 12:09 PM

yuck:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

xcakid

05-29-2009, 12:41 PM

Do tell. When was that?

I was with USSD 1989 till around 92-93. I ran into him every so often at instructors workouts. If I recall correctly he was one of the old Villari guys that went with Mattera during the split. He ran the Santa Ana, CA school at the time.

actually, he sold me some "intersting" pictures of xcakid :eek:

:D

Hey I was in college and broke. I needed the money.

xcakid

05-29-2009, 01:51 PM

If memory serves me right, Joe was also a Born Again Christian. A really religious guy. Very curious that he gets busted for this.

TenTigers

05-29-2009, 02:35 PM

If memory serves me right, Joe was also a Born Again Christian. A really religious guy. Very curious that he gets busted for this.

oh yeah. Religious people (like, priests, f'rinstance..) NEVER would be connected with something such as sexual perversion or kid-touching.
I'm beginning to think it must be written into the New Testament....

(born agains creep me out...)

Taryn P.

05-30-2009, 12:29 AM

Yet another good reason to arrive already dressed in your workout clothes and go home to shower. If I'm going to star in an X-rated vid, I want to at least get paid for it.

TenTigers

05-30-2009, 05:44 AM

simple solution: if he's like that teacher on Long Island, who had cameras in the men's locker room so he could watch teenaged boys, I would simply change in the Ladies' locker room-with the ladies.
And if the instructor likes to peer at Women, you can dress with us in the Men's locker room. Problem solved!

Taryn P.

05-30-2009, 06:22 AM

LOL.... the new satellite location for my BJJ school doesn't even *have* a women's dressing room. There's one unisex bathroom stall and one dressing room. You're not allowed to take any of your personal stuff into the mat room, and there is literally NO PLACE to put things except the dressing room....so I have to knock on the door of the dressing room and call, "anyone naked in there?" before entering. Usually I just open the door a crack, snake my arm in to place my shoes and car keys just inside the door, and shut it without looking. The other day I walked past and there was a guy in there wearing nothing but his tighty-whities, with the door wide open! :eek:

Xiao3 Meng4

05-31-2009, 09:05 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8073297.stm

A former leading sumo coach has been jailed for six years for his role in the fatal beating of a young wrestler in an attack that shocked Japan.
Prosecutors said Junichi Yamamoto, known as Tokitsukaze, ordered three wrestlers to "punish" 17-year-old Takashi Saito for trying to run away.
An autopsy later found that the attack - with beer bottles and baseball bats - had contributed to the man's death.
Yamamoto, 59, has filed an appeal against the sentence, officials said.
The Nagoya District Court found that although the trainer did not directly take part in the beating, he had instructed the three wrestlers to carry it out during a training session.
The judge said Yamamoto had "overwhelming authority" over his apprentices.

Mr Saito collapsed and died in June 2007 after being subjected to excessive sparring sessions before a tournament in Nagoya.
An inquest found that bruises and injuries he sustained were not in keeping with those expected from a usual training routine.
In a separate trial last year, the three senior wrestlers, all in their 20s, were convicted of assault resulting in death.
They were given suspended prison sentences as the judge said they had only followed their coach's instructions and the traditions of the sport.
Sumo wrestling is Japan's national sport and those involved are widely seen as role models, and much respected for their honour and humility.
Young sumo wrestlers train in tightly-knit "stables" where they eat, sleep and practise together and are sometimes subjected to harsh treatment in the belief that it will toughen them up.

Taryn P.

05-31-2009, 09:13 AM

In a separate trial last year, the three senior wrestlers, all in their 20s, were convicted of assault resulting in death.
They were given suspended prison sentences as the judge said they had only followed their coach's instructions and the traditions of the sport.
-----------------------
That sucks. :mad: They *KILLED* this kid- their teammate- in cold blood and they just walk? They followed orders- which makes the coach culpable- but they are responsible for their own actions.

Mas Judt

06-01-2009, 10:04 AM

It's funny, I think the nutjobs and low level crooks that made up the Chinatown CMA scene back in the day were a lot safer to train and hang out with. Theses storefront schools are just a den of deviance!

GeneChing

06-08-2009, 10:17 AM

This is on the AP now...

Martial arts academy hit with voyeurism charge (http://www.newstimes.com/latestnews/ci_12544700)
The Associated Press
Updated: 06/08/2009 08:12:06 AM EDT

GUILFORD -- The owner of a Guilford martial arts studio if facing new allegations of voyeurism.

Forty-three-year-old Joseph Moscatelli is being held on $500,000 bond for a court appearance Monday on the latest charges.

Moscatelli was arrested Friday, accused of two more counts of voyeurism. He had initially been arrested on May 28 for allegedly using a hidden camera to film a girl and an employee undressing in a back room at his Self Defense martial arts academy.

Police say the new charges are based on materials found after police seized his computer and a DVD last month.

TenTigers

06-08-2009, 10:27 AM

This sort of thing is so bad for MA. Commercial schools who used to hold sleep overs, Parent's night out -like for new year's, or travelling to out of state tournaments are done with.
I am considering having any students under the age of eighteen, arrive in uniform and change at home.

BoulderDawg

06-08-2009, 10:42 AM

I am considering having any students under the age of eighteen, arrive in uniform and change at home.

I would view that as a fairly radical reaction. In fact, if I had I child in the program, it would make me think there were problems at your school. Once you start down that road with several parents wondering why and speculating as to what's going on it would be almost impossible to go back and say,

"Nothing happened at the school. We are doing this just as a precaution."

Taryn P.

06-08-2009, 10:48 AM

It might also cause some problems for people who come straight from school or straight from some other activity, or have somewhere to be right after class. Plus, if you take away the changing room, people will probably start tying up the bathroom changing in there. And it wouldn't elmininate the danger, as someone can always accuse you of having a camera in the bathroom. (Eliminating the bathroom will certainly lose you some students!)

TenTigers

06-08-2009, 10:49 AM

hmmm...good point. In this day and age, it is a witch hunt. Even if someone were accused and found completely innocent, his rep is trashed. I have heard stories of PCFH's (psycho chicks from H3ll) making accusations after being spurned by their instructor. Psycho Ex-wives do this to ex-hubbies in divorce proceedings, as well.
Some scary sheet.
Even having backround checks isn't entirely accurate. What if the perv has been doing it for years, and never got caught? He could be the biggest perv and have a clean record.
Scary sheet, indeed.
So...how do we, (as Non-Perv instructors) protect ourselves and our schools?

xcakid

06-09-2009, 02:43 PM

So...how do we, (as Non-Perv instructors) protect ourselves and our schools?

Heeeyyyy, I'm a perv. But only to those 25 and over. And women w/ Blondes or Red Heads only. Oh and those with hot bodies only. And gullible, very gullible. Oh and materialistc, but not very good at math. Hot body. I got some more criteria on the list, but some of you guys are probably working, but if you have the time. I can go on.................

Xiao3 Meng4

06-20-2009, 09:28 AM

From http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8110520.stm

A man who sparked an international hunt in 2007 after abandoning his three-year-old daughter in Australia has been found guilty of murdering his wife.
A New Zealand jury convicted Nai Yin Xue, 55, of strangling his wife at their home in Auckland.
He fled to the US after the murder, but abandoned his daughter at a Melbourne railway station on the way - an act that was caught on security cameras.
The child - Qian Xun - was picked up by police, who nicknamed her Pumpkin.
She is now living with her grandmother in China.
Violent and domineering
The defence argued that Xue's wife, 27-year-old An An Liu, had died in a sex game that went wrong.
But prosecutor Aaron Perkins dismissed the claim as "bizarre", saying her body had been found in the boot of Xue's car, and that she had been strangled with his neck tie.

Xue, who did not give evidence during the trial, punched the air in frustration when the verdict was announced and said in Mandarin "unfair, unfair", according to reports.
The court had heard that Xue, a martial-arts instructor, was violent. He had threatened to kill his wife if she ever left him.
The prosecutor said An An Liu had lived in fear of her husband, who was angry because she had not given birth to a son.
The case grabbed headlines across the world after footage was released showing the abandoned girl's plight.
Xue was eventually recognised by a Chinese family in Atlanta, Georgia, who tied him up and called the police.

The "Accidental death during sex play" possibility aside, the guy first tried to hide the death and then abandoned his daughter in a train station. His sentence may be unfair, but not in the way he thinks it is...

Also, nice citizens arrest at the end!