Gene Ching makes Wall Street Journal Article

[RAF]

"Shaolin is a meeting place of paradox -- tourism, Zen, military, sports, communism, martial arts, history," says Gene Ching, the associate publisher of Kung Fu Tai Chi magazine in California. He thinks the debate between the monks and the athletes over spiritual affairs is "fairly artificial."

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119758024054227513-gFWw_9W9kSGsGMMvyDj7cC6SsSY_20081213.html?mod=rss_ free

Kung Fu Monks
Don't Get a Kick
Out of Fighting
Famous Temple Spurns
Beijing Games, Sparking
Trash Talk From Rivals

By GEOFFREY A. FOWLER and JULIET YE
December 14, 2007; Page A1


Thumbs up, Gene!

[Shaolindynasty]

From CBS news


CBS) The Skinny is Keach Hagey's take on the top news of the day and the best of the Internet.

Is kung fu a meditative path to enlightenment, or merely a really cool-looking way to deliver a beating?

It's a question at the center of many a poorly dubbed martial arts movie. And lately it's been in the headlines of Chinese newspapers, the Wall Street Journal reports, after the monks at the famous Shaolin Temple declined to join one of the biggest kung fu battles of all times - a competition to be staged in tandem with next year's Olympic Games in Beijing.

The monks at the 1,500-year-old temple, which has become synonymous with Chinese martial arts in the popular imagination (though only some of the thousands of varieties of kung fu actually can be traced back there), say they don't fight unless they have to.

But their rivals say they're just chicken.

"We are the best wushu competitors," said 21-year-old Ma Lingjuan, referring to kung fu by its other name. A Chinese world champion, she's been training at spinning and jabbing a spear since she was 10. "Our goal is the medal," she said. "The monks in the temple do it as a hobby."

Oooh, snap! And how do the monks, who claim they learn the kung fu moves as part of their meditation, respond? The monastery's abbot says they practice kung fu "with an understanding of Zen Buddhusim and love of the temple. On the other hand, athletes use wushu as a way to find honor. It is easy to tell which one is more sustainable and deep."

And, a little later, another monk adds: "We could win that. But we don't want to hurt anybody."



My question is who would they hurt in Talou?

[GeneChing]

Fowler interviewed me extensively. I'm glad something I said actually made the article. I was wondering when it would come out.

Might as well post the whole thing, for posterity's sake. :cool:


Kung Fu Monks Don't Get a Kick Out of Fighting (http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119758024054227513-gFWw_9W9kSGsGMMvyDj7cC6SsSY_20081213.html?mod=rss_ free)
Famous Temple Spurns Beijing Games, Sparking Trash Talk From Rivals
By GEOFFREY A. FOWLER and JULIET YE
December 14, 2007; Page A1

Kung fu master Shi Dechao can swing his 22-pound "monk's spade," an ancient Chinese shovel, like a majorette twirling a baton. His lightning punches, in a style the ancients called Iron Fist, generate a thunk! straight out of kung fu movie sound effects. A powerful grunt punctuates his routine.

But Dechao, and most of the other martial monks at the 1,500-year-old Shaolin Temple in China's central Henan province, decline to join in one of the biggest kung fu battles of modern times -- a competition to be staged in tandem with next year's Olympic Games in Beijing.

Clad in saffron Buddhist robes, Dechao insists that real kung fu monks don't fight. They meditate and practice kung fu to reach enlightenment. "Every fist contains my love," says the 39-year-old Dechao, also known as Big Beard.

The Shaolin Temple's decision to stay out of the competition, to be held at the same time as the Olympics and passing out medals of its own, made headlines in China. And it has rekindled a disagreement familiar from the movies: Is kung fu a form of devotion, a style of fighting or both?

Zen Buddhism and kung fu have long made an unlikely pair. As legend has it, Zen's founder, an Indian missionary to China named Bodhidharma, worried that too much seated meditation would make monks flabby. So he taught the monks in Shaolin a set of 18 exercises codified as "Yi Jin Jing," or "Muscle Change Instruction," many of them based on animal movements.

"Kung fu is Zen practice in motion," says Shi Yongxin, the abbot of Shaolin, sitting in his office next to a sculpture of a meditating Buddha. When he moved to the temple from a devoutly Buddhist family in 1981, Yongxin learned to add kung fu moves to his meditation.

Over the centuries, the otherwise peaceful monks have occasionally used their physical prowess in battle to defend the temple and its allies. But they didn't always like it. In lore, the monks went to battle only when they were facing a life-or-death crisis and had no alternative.

Now, a debate over the Olympics has transported the classic kung fu monk's fight-or-pray dilemma to the 21st century.

For the Games, the Chinese have backed a committee-regulated version of kung fu split into two competitions. One, dubbed taolu, is a sort of rhythmic gymnastics in fast-forward. Individual athletes are scored on the "power, harmony, rhythm, style and musical accompaniment" of their routines, which have names such as Lotus Kick and Dragon's Dive to the Ground. A second form of kung fu competition, called sanshou, involves fighting -- and a fair amount of protective padding. Kung fu itself is also known as wushu.

At the International Wushu Federation's Ninth World Wushu Championships in Beijing last month, fighter Zhang Yong entered the ring to chants of "Go for it, China!" He won the gold medal in the 65-kilogram (143-pound) combat competition by striking his Russian opponent with a fierce combination of kicks and punches, at one point flipping the Russian into the air.

"Sometimes I get hurt during the training," says the 24-year-old Mr. Zhang, a Muslim, pointing to a scab on his right eyebrow. Yet "wushu is something that starts with fighting and ends with spirit," he says. "This spirit isn't a religious concept, but rather love to the nation."

To the monk Dechao, the spirit, or qi, in Shaolin Buddhism is embodied in breathing, not force. "I can practice kung fu internally while drinking tea quietly with my friends," he says.

After the abbot publicly distanced Shaolin from the Olympics in October, Chinese bloggers and athletes began to suggest the monks are just scared they wouldn't win. At the competition, athletes said their sport was simply not comparable to Shaolin meditation.

"We are the best wushu competitors," says Ma Lingjuan, the 21-year-old Chinese world champion in taolu. She has been practicing spinning and jabbing a spear since she was 10. "Our goal is the medal," she says. "The monks in the temple do it as a hobby."

Yongxin, the abbot, says monks practice kung fu "with an understanding of Zen Buddhism and love of the temple. On the other hand, the athletes use wushu as a way to find honor. It is easy to tell which one is more sustainable and deep."

Whether with blows or rhetoric, it seems, everybody is kung fu fighting.

Controlling Kung Fu

The government's efforts to standardize the diverse practice of kung fu were also designed to control it. After China's 1949 revolution, the Communist Party at first promoted martial arts but eventually grew leery of kung fu as a subversive self-defense practice.

During the Cultural Revolution of the '60s and '70s, the Red Guards attacked the Shaolin Temple and other religious orders. By the early 1980s, after centuries of unbroken master-to-student lineage, only a dozen or so monks lived at Shaolin. Outside the temple, though, traditional kung fu schools, not all of them associated with Buddhism, thrived.

'Chopsocky' TV

In the 1970s and 1980s, a blizzard of "chopsocky" TV shows and films, such as the 1982 Jet Li film "Shaolin Temple," helped to sear the Buddhist legends into the popular imagination, both in China and abroad.

The 1970s American TV show "Kung Fu" featured David Carradine as Kwai Chang Caine, a Shaolin monk who travels through the Old West armed only with his kung fu. In flashback scenes to the temple, his master teaches him to "avoid rather than check. Check rather than hurt. Hurt rather than maim. Maim rather than kill."

Today, kung fu is practiced by more than 60 million Chinese and millions more around the world -- and its purpose remains a topic of debate.

"The Shaolin Temple is only a building," says Kang Gewu, the secretary general of the Chinese Wushu Association. He points out that martial arts had existed in China for centuries before the Shaolin temple began practicing kung fu. He adds: "In our mind, wushu is a sport, not a religious practice."

It can be both. The town around Shaolin is home to dozens of wushu schools, some employing monks from the temple who accept as students both the spiritually and competitively inclined.

Meeting Place of Paradox

"Shaolin is a meeting place of paradox -- tourism, Zen, military, sports, communism, martial arts, history," says Gene Ching, the associate publisher of Kung Fu Tai Chi magazine in California. He thinks the debate between the monks and the athletes over spiritual affairs is "fairly artificial."

For the temple, maintaining its image as the capital of kung fu is about both expanding its reach and paying its bills. Yongxin, who has been dubbed the "CEO abbot" in the press, has installed a spectacle of his own: a one-hour stage show featuring music by "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" composer Tan Dun and the kung fu skills of hundreds of back-flipping students. Tickets cost $32.

Even as he distances himself from Olympic competition, "the abbot keeps this stereotype alive that kung fu is about fighting," says Justin Guariglia, a photographer who spent several years getting to know the monks and recently published a book, "Shaolin: Temple of Zen." The "real monks," he notes, are kept far away from the tourists.

The abbot, periodically checking his cellphone during an interview, said the temple doesn't actually make that much money from the tourist activities. "What we have done is spread Buddhism and its spirit of universal love," he said.

Another monk at Shaolin, named Bodhidharma after the Indian missionary, dismisses suggestions that the monks don't want to play because they are afraid they would lose.

"Oh, lord," laughs Bodhidharma, who lives in Malaysia and visits the temple to meditate from time to time. "Monks have a very kind and patient heart. We could win that. But we don't want to hurt anybody."

[The Xia]

Is the Wall Street Journal actually writing about a CONTEMPORARY WUSHU competition as if it's some kind of grandoise death-match tournament from a Shaw Bros. movie? If so, lol at that and *sigh* :rolleyes:
Either way, props to Gene for being quoted. I think it's a very interesting statement about the Henan Temple. I find that people who don't bother to look into the matter see the monks and the temple as icons straight out of the movies. I think this is what's promoted by various groups for obvious reasons. Yet when you dig deeper, you not only find Contemporary Wushu (as I think most here know by now) but nuances that make the situation very complex. As Gene mentioned, tourism, Zen, military, sports, communism, martial arts, history are all in there. In terms of Henan Shaolin as it stands today, I'm neither ignorant enough to believe that there is no TCMA there nor am I ignorant enough to believe that there isn't loads of Contemporary Wushu. I see it as a maze of paradoxes walled with mirrors and pumped with smoke. From what I see in many of the people who venture there, the movie and TV image is found despite that much more is in plain sight. It seems that with luck, connections, knowledge, etc TCMA can be found there. However, I think that when many of these people say they want Kung Fu they really want fantasy and that is what they get. But is that really a worthy goal? Since we are talking Shaolin, how does it jive with Chan?

[Shaolindynasty]

But is that really a worthy goal? Since we are talking Shaolin, how does it jive with Chan?


In "chan" there is no goal

[GeneChing]

Traditional does not equal real. Traditional just means that it's been passed down, that it's conventional, old school, customary and established. Since modern wushu has been with us for a few generations of athletes now, there are some people who talk of traditional competitive wushu (the 70's and 80's era prior to nandu). But back to my topic point, the bulk of early kung fu treatises cite legendary figures as their inspiration. While some of these figures are based on historical people,many are completely fictional. You don't get anything more fantastic than that. Even Chan, like any religion, cites as it's foundation, legends which shouldn't be taken literally. They are metaphors of truly mythic proportions.

The Xia points out what I found to be the biggest flaw in the article - contemporary wushu was never fully defined and to a naive reader, the piece implies that the monks are not entering some kind of fight. The lines between taolu and sanshou were conveniently blurred. Additionally, since this odd feud between the abbot and the promoters of modern wushu, the media has overlooked Zhao Qingjian (http://www.jongonews.com/articles/07/1113/70904/NzA5MDQUSnaAX7Q_2.html).