Taiji Legacy San Shou Question

[MasterKiller]

Athletes: 18-35 yrs. (16 yrs. w/written permission from a parent or guarding) must be in excellent health and good conditioning, free of previous and disqualifying injuries, free of life threatening and transmittable diseases. All athletes must have proof of medical insurance and sign the Tournament Director/Promoter's waiver form.

Do they actually make amateur fighters show proof of insurance? All my fighters are college age and do not have insurance.

[xcakid]

Do they actually make amateur fighters show proof of insurance? All my fighters are college age and do not have insurance.

If I recall correctly, they checked my classmates ins. ID card at the weigh in last year.

[Sang Feng Fan]

If they are enrolled in school, they may have coverage from the school or their covered under their parents policy if they are under 25.

[htowndragon]

never checked mine when i fought

[WinterPalm]

You guys need to get some of this awful socialist health care we have.
It's rough having your medical needs taken care of.:D

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

You guys need to get some of this awful socialist health care we have.
It's rough having your medical needs taken care of

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No thanks, I don't need greedy government officials with no medical training at all telling my Doctor what he can, and can't do so far as treating and diagnosing me goes.

[MasterKiller]

You guys need to get some of this awful socialist health care we have.
It's rough having your medical needs taken care of

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No thanks, I don't need greedy government officials with no medical training at all telling my Doctor what he can, and can't do so far as treating and diagnosing me goes.

You already do. It's called Medical Insurance.

[WinterPalm]

You guys need to get some of this awful socialist health care we have.
It's rough having your medical needs taken care of

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No thanks, I don't need greedy government officials with no medical training at all telling my Doctor what he can, and can't do so far as treating and diagnosing me goes.

I hope you don't actually think that's what goes on here!
LOL...our system isn't perfect....and many doctors make their own decisions involving controversial issues.

To treat or not patients who smoke.
To perform or not, abortions.

Actually, one topic that's been around Winnipeg for a bit is the right of a doctor to unplug someone and who's decision it is. The family? The doctor? The courts?

All I know is that if I'm ever sick or need surgery, I won't have to worry at all about the cost of it. Sadly we don't have universal pills yet and I doubt our current conservative government will be changing that, but there's always hope.

Out or curiosity, how much do you guys pay for
medical assessment following an injury
X-rays
casting
'Cause I got all that for free last April!

But don't worry, we always accept Americans as citizens, you can't help being born on the wrong side of the border.

[ngokfei]

Canda does have great free health coverage but there is a catch.

Dependence on the doctor and the regulations/guidelines the must follow when it comes to more serious items (ie: cancer, neurological and psychological disorders, etc.)

For the average, Cold, Broken bone, acne then thats fine but get a major disease and you'll find out just how the sytem works.

I speak from experience in working in quite a few big city hospitals in the US. I don't know if the stats are made public but we've been privy to the numbers of Foreigners seeking medical care here and its astounding.

One major hospital that sees alot of foreigners is NYC Health and Hospitals Corporation (many hospitals but Bellvue is probably the biggest). You've got people traveling while extremely sick and are able to get treatment here because they are too sick to be sent home. Nice trick

[WinterPalm]

Oh yeah, it's definitely got some issues.

You might wait 6 months for that FREE hip replacement surgery. If you've got the cash go down to the states and get it done tomorrow. However, in America, if you don't got the cash, you don't get the hip.

[ngokfei]

Hip Replacement is not life threatening.

I'd rather wait 6 months for a free hip replacement surgery then to have to wait 6 months for Chemo Therapy (6 months your probably dead alread:D)

oh and lets not mention the number of Black Market Organ transplants that take place in Canada.........

Same thing applies in Canada as the US. IF you got the $$ you get to live longer.

Hell I personally believe that if a person is or was a smoker and develops lung cancer they shouldn't be on the organ recepient list. And I come from a large family with uncles and ocusings who are heavy smokers at that. Their Choice, live with it.

Now lets get back to San Shou..

[WinterPalm]

Good point about the smokers and I agree, but the doctors do have a choice.

I'd rather get my chemo in 6 months then not at all because I can't afford it!:D
That said, of all the people I know of that had chemo or needed life threatening heart surgery, they got it very soon.

[Shaolinlueb]

is tjl even going on this year?

[bakxierboxer]

That said, of all the people I know of that had chemo or needed life threatening heart surgery, they got it very soon.

I dunno.... I think I'll give a pass to that "life threatening heart surgery".... opting to say (much) "later for that", let alone "sooner".

[sanjuro_ronin]

I dunno.... I think I'll give a pass to that "life threatening heart surgery".... opting to say (much) "later for that", let alone "sooner".

LMAO !!
Nice one.

[MasterKiller]

is tjl even going on this year?

Dunno. They haven't updated the website.

[WinterPalm]

I dunno.... I think I'll give a pass to that "life threatening heart surgery".... opting to say (much) "later for that", let alone "sooner".

What are you saying? I don't understand.:confused:

[bakxierboxer]

LMAO !!
Nice one.

Thanks.... every so often I manage to hit one.

[bakxierboxer]

What are you saying? I don't understand.:confused:

Although there is risk associated with any surgery, most folks will choose to opt for something that is most likely to preserve, rather than threaten, their lives.

[WinterPalm]

Oh.

I meant life threatening surgery as in you will die if you don't have it and the procedure itself can also lead to death.

[xcakid]

Dunno. They haven't updated the website.

I sent an email, and Patty answered me back saying that they are changing the location and have yet to find one. So they will update when that happens.

Sad, cause the plano center is only 10mins from my house. And that's if catch all the red light going there.

[bakxierboxer]

Oh.

I meant life threatening surgery....

ANY surgery is potentially "life-threatening"...
In many/most heart surgeries you can be considered "dead" by some because they purposely stop your heart during the surgery.... only restarting it after they can take you off the heart/lung machine.


... as in you will die if you don't have it and the procedure itself can also lead to death.

There's a possibility that getting out of bed in the morning can lead to your death that very day.... the odds mitigate against it.
Choosing a particular surgery involves evaluating the risk associated with having it vs not-having it.
Generally speaking, the recipient would consider a surgery "life-threatening" when "the odds" of survival were "not optimal" when considering the choice(s).
(there are usually few choices)

[Citong Shifu]

I sent an email, and Patty answered me back saying that they are changing the location and have yet to find one. So they will update when that happens.

Sad, cause the plano center is only 10mins from my house. And that's if catch all the red light going there.

There's be talk (inner circle) that the TJL will be or is trying to be moved to "Vegas". I'm not sure how that will work out. Most people who have participated in TJL will not travel to Vegas, so they stand to lose many of there long time supporters.... Anywho, thats the talk. Dont know where there at in overall planning, to date, but thats where there trying to take the tounament.

[Pork Chop]

I sent an email, and Patty answered me back saying that they are changing the location and have yet to find one. So they will update when that happens.

Sad, cause the plano center is only 10mins from my house. And that's if catch all the red light going there.

I still can't believe I didn't make it last year.
We gotta hang out at the actual event this time around.
You up for another bonedaddy's trip? :D

[GeneChing]

Got to hand it to MK. He called that last year. Of course, he deleted the thread, but still...


Dear Sifu's and Friends,

Hope everyone had a Happy Chinese New Year!

I know that many have asked about the upcoming Taiji Legacy for 2008 and I'm sorry for the delayed response. I understand that everyone needs to know for planning purposes.

We wanted to change the location this year so while waiting to hear from the new venue, we had not secured the old one at the Plano Convention Centre. Now it is getting too close to July to hold the tournament at that time. So, the unfortunate conclusion is that we will NOT be hosting the tournament this summer.

HOWEVER, if we are able to secure a location in the Fall, we will host the tournament in the Fall. In either case, we will host the tournament next summer in 2009. We will keep you informed as soon as we have information. Thank you for your patience!

I wish everyone a Happy & Prosperous Year of the Rat!

Respectfully,
Jimmy Wong

Major bummer. :(

[xcakid]

Dang. Gene beat me to it. Just got the email myself. :(

[xcakid]

I still can't believe I didn't make it last year.
We gotta hang out at the actual event this time around.
You up for another bonedaddy's trip? :D

You know it.

But it looks like it will be in the fall. Hopefully. At least it won't be so freaking hot.

[MasterKiller]

Got to hand it to MK. He called that last year. Of course, he deleted the thread, but still...



Major bummer. :(

Psalm 9:10
Those who know your name will trust in you, for you, MK, have never forsaken those who seek you.

[GeneChing]

I will praise thee, MK, with my whole heart; I will shew forth all thy marvelous works, if only you didn't friggin' delete them. :p

[hskwarrior]

no Tai Chi Legacy this year, that sucks!!!!!

[xcakid]

no Tai Chi Legacy this year, that sucks!!!!!

Well there is a slim chance in the fall. I'm keeping my hopes up.

[GLW]

I wouldn't put too much stock in the old prediction that the 2008 event would not happen.

In getting large venuse and community centers. the first thing you find out quickly is that the only thing that gives you a reserved location is MONEY - as in a deposit. Also, in many instances, the deposit is not fully refundable. Often it is 100% nonrefundable and is also not a small amount of money.

Now the fun part of all of this is that many times, when you approach one location about renting it out, they may or may not be forthcoming with a quote or dates. While it is important to you, your event is NOT the most important thing on their desk. Also, in regards to martial arts events, not all locations are that keen to have one. Seems that some of the martial arts events have garnered us all a bad name (One I recall in SF - at one of the Universities there - a competitor vandalized the place - broken glass and such - when they lost their fights. Funny thing was they ended up in the local ER from the glass breakage and the local authorities were trying to decide if the damage was on purpose or an accident. On purpose meant a felony arrest (damage was over the misdemeanor amount) and this was all being discussed at teh ER while the person was being stitched up.

But I digress... So, if you are a promoter, you don't want to lay your money down for a location you might not want while trying to negotiate for a better place... And at the same time, if you do not lay the money down, you may end up like this where the date you want is already booked for your second choice venue and your first choice venue has fallen through.

When this happens, you either scramble like mad - or you cut your losses and say to he11 with it and do it next year.

[masherdong]

Well, hopefully TJL will happen in the Fall. Fingers crossed! :rolleyes:

[masherdong]

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone had the dimensions of the rings during the 2007 TJL. I am trying to mark it off in my backyard. I also noticed that the ring sizes at TJL are smaller than the other tournaments that I have been to. So, I figure I would practice in a smaller ring so that I can be prepared for it if it does happen to be small.