Censorship at Empty Flower

[Buddy]

So EF has been taken over of late by a crass commercialist who doesn't want his ulterior motives known. I've been there for god knows how long and was not only recently banned for stating my opinions but banned from the server. I can't even get to the site from my house. What was once, arguably the best IMA forum on the web, now censors dissenting opinion. The thing is EF is a terrible marketing vehicle and Brian is too stupid to realize it. Marketing is all about feeding a starving market noy quieting dissent. Sad.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Who is Brian?

[dimethylsea]

I am. The New and Improved Satan... right here.

Buddy.. take your meds... and call your shrink in the morning.. you are acting out.



.Y./Brian

[NJM]

I am. The New and Improved Satan... right here.

Buddy.. take your meds... and call your shrink in the morning.. you are acting out.



.Y./Brian

Care to explain without all the engrishy dots between sentences?
Perhaps tell us the situation?

[B-Rad]

What'd you get banned for? :confused:

[dimethylsea]

He's not Banned. He got Dunce Cap'ed.. which means he can't post till he's
ready to be civil.

He registered a second account to avoid the Dunce and it got deleted.

[BoulderDawg]

So? Why bring all of those problems over to this board?

[dimethylsea]

Because he's drunk. And he's Buddy.

[Buddy]

Because Brian wants to make EF his own little marketing page. You blocked my ISP. Don't confuse drunk for ****ed off *******.

[Egg fu young]

If you guys take this to the Tai chi forum I'll give you both a hug.:)

[Buddy]

Not gonna slag Devere in public Brian, only behind his back?

[David Jamieson]

Buddy. YOu're a jerk there and now you're a jerk here. At least you're consistent. Yiou know for a 50something guy, you would think you would have something more in ya at this point.

Let this be a lesson lads.

hmmmmph.

[dimethylsea]

Not gonna slag Devere in public Brian, only behind his back?

Slag DeVere? DeVere doesn't train and is not involved in Emptyflower these
days. He doesn't care about the forum and hasn't in years. I don't care about him.

My boss is Felipe.

Pretty simple. Now are you going to stop bugging these nice people with
your slanders?

[GeneChing]

Egg fu young, you truly got me to lol on that one.

Before this erupts into an immigrant flame war, I just want it clear that I am a crass commercialist with obvious ulterior motives (http://www.martialartsmart.net/index.html).

[Steve Hamp]

Egg fu young, you truly got me to lol on that one.

Before this erupts into an immigrant flame war, I just want it clear that I am a crass commercialist with obvious ulterior motives (http://www.martialartsmart.net/index.html).


Now I'm really LMAO. That was a good one Gene.

[Shaolinlueb]

its funny i just kicked out a student named "buddy"

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Buddy,
Brian saved EF by hosting the forum on his site. I don't see your problem here. Felipe still owns the forum itself.

[firepalm]

You worried about a little Censorship by the moderators on the EF site. You should all be a little more worried about this brought to you by your own Gov't http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wJsovPRTEM Pt 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wJsovPRTEM Kiss your Freedom of Speech good bye!

[sanjuro_ronin]

Censorship?
What's that?

[Lucas]

Censorship?
What's that?

Please, as long as Sanjuro has freedom of speach (posting pics) who cares if anyone else does.

[SPJ]

off topic;

just wanted to say that I enjoyed the new EF board very much.

there are more functions especially posting video's.

however, my interests are not limited to internal arts only.

so I have to reserve a lot of good links and materials that are not "postable" in an internal CMA boards.

--

back to regular programs.

:D;)

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Censorship?
What's that?

Reply]
HOLY SMOKES that has to be the hottest one yet!!

[Lucas]

Reply]
HOLY SMOKES that has to be the hottest one yet!!

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RD USED THE QUOTE FUNCTION, THE SKY IS FALLING< THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!


:p

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

I've been finding myself doing that lately...since my abduction. :)

[dimethylsea]

off topic;

just wanted to say that I enjoyed the new EF board very much.

there are more functions especially posting video's.

however, my interests are not limited to internal arts only.

so I have to reserve a lot of good links and materials that are not "postable" in an internal CMA boards.

--

back to regular programs.

:D;)

EF is "primarily" internal, not "only" internal. We welcome anyone regardless
of style who is a good sport and a good conversationalist.

(Including those with "crass ulterior motives" Mr. Ching!!)

[Lucas]

I've been finding myself doing that lately...since my abduction. :)

I've heard that anal probes have that effect...

[cjurakpt]

Egg fu young, you truly got me to lol on that one.

Before this erupts into an immigrant flame war, I just want it clear that I am a crass commercialist with obvious ulterior motives (http://www.martialartsmart.net/index.html).

and it's why we flock to you like Ninjettes to Nachos!

as for an immigrant flame war, wouldn't that require some sort of visa approval or refugee status beforehand?

as for Buddy, maybe he'd care for some Nacho Cheese with his whine?

[Lucas]

I think Buddy is out of luck. Aint no Nacho Cheese to spare.

Gene is keeping a leash on it today.

[NJM]

what censorship has occured? How about a little more substance and a little less rhetoric.

[bakxierboxer]

Censorship?
What's that?

That's the specter of "oversight" that can cause banination if you ever dast link to a photo containing the sight of a young lovely's delectables (can I actually post "nipples"?)
((hmmmm.....guess I CAN post that word....)

It also seems to have some certain sexist over/under-tones, in that it does NOT seem to extend to MALE NIPPLES!!!!!

[sanjuro_ronin]

That's the specter of "oversight" that can cause banination if you ever dast link to a photo containing the sight of a young lovely's delectables (can I actually post "nipples"?)
((hmmmm.....guess I CAN post that word....)

It also seems to have some certain sexist over/under-tones, in that it does NOT seem to extend to MALE NIPPLES!!!!!


Don't know about man nipples, but when censorship gets me down I remember:

[GeneChing]

I seldom go over to EF, regardless of my crass ulterior motives (http://www.martialartsmart.net/19341.html). It's mostly because KFM keeps my hands pretty full, as you can see. It's worse when other forums dump off their banned rejects here. Ok, just kidding. Seriously, I love EF. I should really follow up there on posts about our work here.

[bakxierboxer]

Don't know about man nipples, but when censorship gets me down I remember:

Try posting a pic of one of those!
(or even a little one.......)

Waittaminnit.... don't bother, just keep linking the same stuff you've been linking.

[Seppukku]

EF is "primarily" internal, not "only" internal. We welcome anyone regardless
of style who is a good sport and a good conversationalist.

(Including those with "crass ulterior motives" Mr. Ching!!)

That's not true. When I started posting on Empty Flower, I was met with hostility by the resident hegemons, and they quickly banned me from accessing the site at all when they realized I was too much of a man for them.

Empty Flower? More like Dainty Flowers...

[Seppukku]

Or Screech Powers....

[NJM]

WTF happened to the EF forums?

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

It's still there, it's just blue now.

There is an issue with Devere's intellectual rights to the design scheme of it now that he does not host the site on his web page anymore.

[NJM]

When old fogeys try to run the internet, I suppose this is the result. :eek:

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

The whole thing is stupid because Dever is an admin there....he's just not active.

[SifuAbel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=sdHtW_81kwg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR5eGJ8c8Eg&feature=related

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

This is totally irrelevant to the topic.

[SifuAbel]

Don't care. :D

I got banned for saying "kiss my ass". And BTW, EF, kiss my ass. :rolleyes:

[GunnedDownAtrocity]

So EF has been taken over of late by a crass commercialist who doesn't want his ulterior motives known. I've been there for god knows how long and was not only recently banned for stating my opinions but banned from the server. I can't even get to the site from my house. What was once, arguably the best IMA forum on the web, now censors dissenting opinion. The thing is EF is a terrible marketing vehicle and Brian is too stupid to realize it. Marketing is all about feeding a starving market noy quieting dissent. Sad.


if i were you, id **** his gram-grams.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Don't care. :D

I got banned for saying "kiss my ass". And BTW, EF, kiss my ass. :rolleyes:

Really?
When did that happen?

[jo]

Beware of people who have problems with the TOS of forums that are not their own.


- jo

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

What is TOS?

[SifuAbel]

Beware of people who have problems with the TOS of forums that are not their own.


- jo


Especially when its a hypocrisy.

[jo]

TOS.

Terms Of Service.

As in the rules that apply to an internet forum.

Its all in that page you clicked "I Agree" to 2451 posts ago. without ever reading all the legalese.

Most say that says that the forum can ban and/or censor a person if they don't abide by the rules.

THE FIRST AMENDMENT DOES NOT APPLY.

While most folks never come in conflict with the TOS that agree to, there are those who swear the First Amendment applies to internet forums (they are wrong), and then, there are the jackhoffs who think that they are above it all and not subject to, or too stupid to understand the consequences of clicking on the "I AGREE" button.

- jo

[jo]

Rudy, you are the Admin of this internet forum, correct?

http://z6.invisionfree.com/No_BS_Martial_Arts/

In your "Why We Are Here" topic, you posted:
"I did make this forum because, as always, when you have an unregulated mob of people, abuses tend to follow. "

"In closing, this forum was created because there was a need to have a place were dissenting views OF THE ADMINISTRATION, not the mission, could be heard without being buried beneath a ton of troll babble."

I know several people who were banned from your site for having "dissenting views" of your administration, not for cursing, or making threats, and yet, have the CHUTZPAH to come here and say that there is "hypocrisy" in internet forums?

Give it a rest over here. This forum is not perfect (which one is?) but it is relatively free from JFS-USA syndrome.

We all know where to go for that sort of thing...just don't forget to flush.

Have a nice day.

- jo

[NJM]

TOS.
there are those who swear the First Amendment applies to internet forums (they are wrong)
In theory, you're right.

In practice, well...

[SifuAbel]

Rudy, you are the Admin of this internet forum, correct?

http://z6.invisionfree.com/No_BS_Martial_Arts/

In your "Why We Are Here" topic, you posted:
"I did make this forum because, as always, when you have an unregulated mob of people, abuses tend to follow. "

"In closing, this forum was created because there was a need to have a place were dissenting views OF THE ADMINISTRATION, not the mission, could be heard without being buried beneath a ton of troll babble."

I know several people who were banned from your site for having "dissenting views" of your administration, not for cursing, or making threats, and yet, have the CHUTZPAH to come here and say that there is "hypocrisy" in internet forums?

Give it a rest over here. This forum is not perfect (which one is?) but it is relatively free from JFS-USA syndrome.

We all know where to go for that sort of thing...just don't forget to flush.

Have a nice day.

- jo

And you're stupid too.................

My forum isn't SUPPOSED to be a social discussion site. Those banned were TARGETED. Its a rag site.

Its hypocrisy on your part, pure and simple.

YOUR board IS supposed be a social discussion board. I got banned simply for not bowing to some childish whim of the board.

Continue kissing my ass............

[1bad65]

We all know you ban anyone who disagrees with you or asks questions you guys don't want to answer.

Speaking of, have you gave Boyd and Osiris a date and venue yet? :D

[unkokusai]

LOL! The fat monkey-boy is a ridiculous hypocrite!

[Fox]

I do not always agree with Rudy, and I have not been banned yet.

[1bad65]

:D :D :D Lmao!!! :D :D :D

[omarthefish]

Actually, I kind of nearly left the forum on my own for the same reasons Buddy is complaining about. I just didn't get myself "dunce capped". I've only posted there a couple time this month. Once to offer a rideshare for a training get together and once to tell a friend I liked his article. I don't really fine the place useful for martial arts discussion anymore.

The new features are cool. I like those. The new moderation style though....

blech.

The place is no longer really an IMA board. Now it's just another martial arts board like this one with no real uniqueness.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Seems like the same old emptyflower to me.

[rogue]

Send the Doll Lady over there.:cool:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWW9KsLePK0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhOloFn_IRU&feature=related

[SPJ]

I like the video links and functionalities.

old EF, people looked for the vid links, too.

youtube started to emerge in 2005.

many people started uploading CMA stuff in 2006.

new EF, people may embed playable vid's.

now it is kind of "norm".

if you search yahoo, or google,

you may find small vid icon's.

you click on it, the playable vid starting to play.

--

I meant thanks ! youtube for hosting so many vid's on the planet.

--

as the sayings go;

it used to be that if it is not in google or yahoo, it is probably not there.

now it is that if it is not in youtube, the stuff or style may not exist.

--

:D

[SPJ]

Oh,

the new EF is more searchable,

or everything is archived.

or things will not disappear after 6 months.

--

:)

[SPJ]

http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=tai+chi&n=21&ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-hptb5&fr2=tab-web&tnr=20&js=1

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=tai+chi&hl=en&sitesearch=

:)

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Rogue,

That was disgusting.

[rogue]

What, sending the Doll Lady over to EF? Is the place that bad?

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

No, the He-Man looking body builder chick.

[sanjuro_ronin]

No, the He-Man looking body builder chick.

Yeah, who needs strong women?

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

sanjuro_ronin,

THAT was much nicer!!

[David Jamieson]

can she crap a rope and threaten boys?

[rogue]

No, the He-Man looking body builder chick.

OK Mr. Whiney, how about a school girl?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_0yUwbipl8&feature=related

[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAOMZw37CHg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VIeVeZ3IcI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li2PVb4LS_I&feature=related

for old fashion or more down to earth dudes.

:D:p

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

OK Mr. Whiney, how about a school girl?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_0yUwbipl8&feature=related

Reply]
I think you should leave the female posting to sanjuro_ronin. You obviously don't have the eye for what is attractive.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

SPJ has the right idea! :D

[rogue]

Reply]
I think you should leave the female posting to sanjuro_ronin. You obviously don't have the eye for what is attractive.

Shall we review your dating history Mr. Myopic?:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmm7YZ6_oXc&feature=related

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Well, that was an improvement!