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Ming Fai
04-19-2008, 02:35 AM
Dear all,
Today I went to the Public Security Bureau of Beijing to inquire about the latest information concerning Chinese visa.
Currently, foreign students, tourists and employees staying in China can renew their visa up till the 1st July. The Public Security Bureau will issue new visa regulations prior to that date.
Tourist (L), Study (X) and Work Visa (Z) can be renewed after 1st July. Only holders of Business Visa (F) will need to leave the country and re-apply.
For future visitors: Since 7th April 2008, regulations concerning tourist visa application have become more strict. Tourist visa is now issued for 30 days (prolonged stay is possible when proof of neccesity is provided).
Tourists travelling to China this summer, please submit the following documents with your application:
1. Passport: Your valid passport must have at least six (6) months of remaining validity with at least one blank visa page in it.
2. Application form: One completed Visa Application Form (Q1)
3. Photo: one passport photo (black & white or color is acceptable) glued or stapled on the application form.
4. An applicant who was born in China is required to submit his /her Chinese passport or last foreign passport with a Chinese visa when he/she applies for a Chinese visa with a new foreign passport.
5. Tourists to China shall provide round trip air tickets and hotel reservation to the Chinese embassy/consulate (MANDATORY)
In short:
- Foreigners who are now staying in China can renew their visa, except for those who are holding Business Visa (F).
- Tourists who are planning to visit China this summer are still allowed into the country. When applying for visa, they need to hand-in a copy of their round trip ticket and confirmed hotel reservation.
Regards,
Ming Fai
bodhitree
04-19-2008, 05:34 AM
Wow the Chinese government is so great! They also don't hide anything from the media or help the Omar Al Bashir regime in the Sudan. And they never committed attrocities like the Great Leap Forward or the Cultural Revolution.
Great Job
jow yeroc
04-19-2008, 07:17 AM
I know what you mean bodhi and i'm no admirer of Chinese gov't but i don't
think America (my country which i love) is really in a position to throw stones.
Especially when we have blood on our hands too. It'd be easy for the Chinese
to lob stones back at us for Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Guantanamo and any other
percieved human rights violations and atrocity. We all have some pretty
sorted histories my friend.
Not blasting you at all, please don't rip my head off, i just think everybody's
s h i t stinks. Everyone just prefers their own brand.
UK MONK
04-19-2008, 07:28 AM
i still have to leave, im not living in a hotel and i dont have a round trip ticket. and i just bought my ticket home today :(
bodhitree
04-19-2008, 07:33 AM
I know what you mean bodhi and i'm no admirer of Chinese gov't but i don't
think America (my country which i love) is really in a position to throw stones.
Especially when we have blood on our hands too. It'd be easy for the Chinese
to lob stones back at us for Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Guantanamo and any other
percieved human rights violations and atrocity. We all have some pretty
sorted histories my friend.
Not blasting you at all, please don't rip my head off, i just think everybody's
s h i t stinks. Everyone just prefers their own brand.
Yes you are right, we've done some pretty bad things, BUT you can express them and I can read them on a computer here in the United States. Some Americans do not agree with things the current government does, in part because our media can express itself freely, therefore we have the knowledge to be critical of our government, and hopefully to try to change it. China's government has brainwashed their people, and control all of the media in the country. Because of links and threads on this site a Chinese person in China most likely cannot read this.
Our government has made some large mistakes (entering Iraq, Abu Gharib, etc.) but these things are widely reported by our media, whom if anything teach us to be more critical as citizens and voters. China's government does not allow this, and when you control the information people recieve you control what they think and believe. So now we have just about 1.5 billion people brainwashed into supporting a highly abusive regime.
I guess I'm just saying there is a big difference between China and the United States, even though the US certainly isn't innocent.
Thanks for your thoughts!
B-Rad
04-19-2008, 01:24 PM
So now we have just about 1.5 billion people brainwashed into supporting a highly abusive regime.
More like the government attempted to brainwash them. A LOT of people in China are more aware of things than we think. With the internet it's really easy for a Chinese person to get information. Just too many connections to monitor, the flow of info is too quick, and firewalls are too easy to get around.
yes, there are government agents posting on the internet as trolls to derail as many discussions as possible.
usually of course about politics.
for example,
all the videos with tibet and china themes on youtube are innudated with them recently.
they are called internet agents or wang te.
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:eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwst9gQ9Xgw&feature=related
this is a very good clip. even thou it was a concert for PLA artist graduation.
tian lu from both a lan and han hong.
just read the comments and count how many wang te there are.
:eek:
bodhitree
04-22-2008, 04:32 AM
[Blaming and boycotting a nation of people because you perceive injustice isn't as good as proactively doing something positive to improve your own community.
Um, its not perception, it is injustice. It is a fact that China sells arms to the Sudan, which are used for genocide. It is also highly likely that the government is violently cracking down on Tibetans, the whole no media being allowed there thing pretty much means just that.
Should you go to China, you may find a lot of well read people who have independent news networks and check references. No place is perfect, but saying, "they are brainwashed" with the implication that we are not, does nothing positive. You'd be supprised how many intelligent and well read communists there are by choice. Many of them are Tibetan. Some of these "brainwashed people" are quick to help strangers in a way I have seldom seen in urban environments. I've
How do these "independent" news sources get past the firewall and censorship? They don't all that often. Talk to a Chinese person, chances are they believe some nonscence about their history and government.
had people pay for my lunch when I forgot my wallet, return large sums of money I had dropped, return my computer that I left, help me fix my moped which involved dissasembling it and borrowing tools from strangers, then refusing any form of compensation or even thanks. A taxi driver waited for 10 minutes hoping I would come by because I left my USB with vital research in his cab instead of stealing it. I would expect this in small towns, but not in a city of 10 million people. The crime rate is low and there are no drug needles on the street. The healthcare system is efficient, effective and cheap. Maybe we should be looking to China for what we can learn to improve our own communities, rather than commanding them to take actions we are unwilling to take ourselves
Great, I don't have anything against Chinese people. These positives are there in spite of their government. The Chinese people deserve a better government. How many Chinese people died in the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward? How many have died or gone to prison for speaking out against their own government?
The world and the Chinese people deserve a better government.
Oh, and a link to China supplying weapons for likely political violence in Africa (luckily this time being blocked) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7360438.stm)
unkokusai
04-22-2008, 05:55 AM
Some of these "brainwashed people" are quick to help strangers in a way I have seldom seen in urban environments. I've had people pay for my lunch when I forgot my wallet, return large sums of money I had dropped, return my computer that I left, help me fix my moped which involved dissasembling it and borrowing tools from strangers, then refusing any form of compensation or even thanks. A taxi driver waited for 10 minutes hoping I would come by because I left my USB with vital research in his cab instead of stealing it. I would expect this in small towns, but not in a city of 10 million people. The crime rate is low and there are no drug needles on the street. The healthcare system is efficient, effective and cheap. Maybe we should be looking to China for what we can learn to improve our own communities, rather than commanding them to take actions we are unwilling to take ourselves.
I agree that people can be too quick to villify an entire nation based on one issue, but to try and paint Chinese taxi drivers as paragons of virtue is going too far. Cabbies in China are as bad or worse than anywhere else. Crime is low to the extent that the gov. quashes any reporting (or compiling) or crime data. The health care is cheap because its .... well, cheap with all that implies. Westerners are often too quick to cast blanket condemnation of the whole country, I agree, but that's not rain falling no matter how much you want it to be.
a french senator voiced differently
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n5IflGGIas&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLTm0xrG-v4&feature=related
some taiwan and chinese students voiced in France.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cZyLyeapKE
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every person or government may voice its opinions.
just hope the games of 16 days starting august 8, 2008 safe for everyone.
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omarthefish
04-22-2008, 08:33 AM
Yes you are right, we've done some pretty bad things, BUT you can express them and I can read them on a computer here in the United States.
... snip....
Our government has made some large mistakes (entering Iraq, Abu Gharib, etc.) ..
..snip... So now we have just about 1.5 billion people brainwashed into supporting a highly abusive regime.
I guess I'm just saying there is a big difference between China and the United States, even though the US certainly isn't innocent.
Thanks for your thoughts!
See that's the problem right there. Our ability to read about and complain about our own govt. problems is a red herring. The other items you mentioned, Abu Gharib and selling our own weapons to far more brutal dictatorships than just those at Darfor....these things remove our "moral authority" to speak on China's abuses. Unless we clean up our own act, it is just none of our f'ing business. 2 wrongs don't make a right but criticism from a hypocrite is just worthless, inappropriate and just plain stupid.
The United States is in no position right now to be criticizing China on human rights. HUMAN rights apply equally to muslims, illegal immigrants and so on as well. Since the rest of the world are not US citizens, the rights and freedoms of US citizens living withing the borders of the US....are pretty irrelevant to a discussion of the US human rights record. China and the rest of the world these days all pretty much think that the USA needs to take a big fat dose of STFU for a change.
English dubbing for the previous clip of the French senator talking about the Tibet issue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLTm0xrG-v4
bodhitree
04-22-2008, 08:52 AM
See that's the problem right there. Our ability to read about and complain about our own govt. problems is a red herring. The other items you mentioned, Abu Gharib and selling our own weapons to far more brutal dictatorships than just those at Darfor....these things remove our "moral authority" to speak on China's abuses. Unless we clean up our own act, it is just none of our f'ing business. 2 wrongs don't make a right but criticism from a hypocrite is just worthless, inappropriate and just plain stupid.
The United States is in no position right now to be criticizing China on human rights. HUMAN rights apply equally to muslims, illegal immigrants and so on as well. Since the rest of the world are not US citizens, the rights and freedoms of US citizens living withing the borders of the US....are pretty irrelevant to a discussion of the US human rights record. China and the rest of the world these days all pretty much think that the USA needs to take a big fat dose of STFU for a change.
English dubbing for the previous clip of the French senator talking about the Tibet issue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLTm0xrG-v4
I'm not reading anything from the internet challange was about to get beat up by a drug ***** girl, guy.
Seriously, how do you show your face (or profile as it were) in public? God you're a disgrace.
omarthefish
04-22-2008, 11:07 AM
Thanks for letting me know where we stand.
It saves a lot of time from being wasted making rational points to someone who has already made up their mind that they are going to ingore any of your comments.
Feel free to continue to wallow in your ignorance. I won't get in your way.
:)
the french will host da lai la ma during august when the games will be held.
mayor of paris will confer da lai a honorary citizenship.
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there are a lot anti french sentiments among chinese people
when the paraolympic fencing champ Jin Jing was attacked while holding the torch in paris on april 7th.
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a french senator kissed her hand in shanghai, as a gesture to reconcile the sentiments.
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http://torchrelay.beijing2008.cn/en/torchbearers/headlines/n214305373.shtml
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC0ag8txNfY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz17p1kI5Jc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REDyDx4yt0s&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ7hOgHkPhE&feature=related
jin jing tried to protect the torch with her body.
much respect for her.
:eek::(:)
jin jing said
"to take away the torch is a sacrilage to the spirits of the olympic games. athletes trained hard for 4 years in order to compete for the highest honor in the world."
let the games be the games.
peaceful protests may be better.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_0puXLaE74&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1jVMl1nZF8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElJBXbjHUOk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTJuEbOQ7dM&feature=related
:eek:
Shaolinlueb
04-22-2008, 09:37 PM
Wow the Chinese government is so great! They also don't hide anything from the media or help the Omar Al Bashir regime in the Sudan. And they never committed attrocities like the Great Leap Forward or the Cultural Revolution.
Great Job
and america is innocent too.
your point?
2 wrongs dont make a right.
enjoy, its their country they can do what they want.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pSSQbn-iRU&feature=related
a promo clip for the torch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okf7dzgp-fI&feature=related
everything is with a different name this year.
gold, silver and bronze medals.
they become jade decorated with gold, silver or bronze.
jin xiang yu
ying xiang yu
tong xiang yu.
so everyone is going for jin xiang yu.
so how many jin xiang yu your home country team would win?
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:)
it is a chinese belief.
if you wear your jewelry all the time, either a jade bracelet or a gold necklace etc.
the jade or the gold will absorb and carry your spirits or essence of you.
over time, they are part of you. the jade or the gold will have your ling qi.
in the old time, each person will ask a craftsman to craft a jade that is unique for you.
it is called pei yu.
it is also served as a personal ID item.
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in terms of CMA, you may carry your personalized straightsword or other types of weapon.
again, over time, the sword has your essence.
it is then called pei jian.
guess what even confuscious had a pei jian as evidenced in his portraits and statues.
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:)
my point is that
if you win a jin xiang yu, ying xiang yu or tong xiang yu.
please wear it all the time and make it a personal item.
do not put it away or leave it on the shelf.
the jade may pass from one generation to the next.
give it to your love one or child and pass it on.
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guess what I have items from Qing and even ming dynasty.
if you want to see ones from song dynasty, you have to go to national palace museum in taipei.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuUpZBvLre4&feature=related
:D
unkokusai
04-23-2008, 09:39 AM
I'm not reading anything from the internet challange was about to get beat up by a drug ***** girl, guy.
Seriously, how do you show your face (or profile as it were) in public? God you're a disgrace.
.........................................
Too true!
unkokusai
04-23-2008, 09:46 AM
. HUMAN rights apply equally to muslims, illegal immigrants and so on as well.
Illegal immigrants come (illegally) to the US because its better than the place they are running away from, not worse, you moron. Show me the boatloads of Americans risking death to try and smuggle themselves into China on cargo containers.
Muslims in America are more free to practice Islam without risk of stoning, beheading, exile, or imprisonment because they are the 'wrong kind' of Muslim than in any predominantly Muslim country. Or, they can decide not to be Muslim if they choose; another big difference.
You hide from reason like you hide from girls who want to fight you.
if you go to beijing
try these;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2HgxvrsOvU
jian bing for breakfast or pancake. if you don't want green onion or eggs, have to tell them first.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPDC24Gf2cc&feature=related
some home style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s23rxJ0vIsw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRLlsF_AJ60&feature=related
quan ju de kao ya or roast duck, it is famous since 1864, qing dynasty.
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I am drooling.
:D
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bawang
09-22-2009, 04:21 AM
the chinese government has alwasy been like this for the last 2000 years
the problem now is the control is much tighter with benefit form modern technology + no gods no morals no patriotism no compassion no emperor there is no more reason for it to exist
since china is westernized i dont really care what happens its not my home anymor china is whereever i go inside my haert
the chinese government has alwasy been like this for the last 2000 years
the problem now is the control is much tighter with benefit form modern technology + no gods no morals no patriotism no compassion no emperor there is no more reason for it to exist
since china is westernized i dont really care what happens its not my home anymor china is whereever i go inside my haert
1. there is a list for everything. if a person is considered activists for political grounds will be denied entry. however, everybody knows that many russian "working girls" will flood beijing during the games.-- so the police would open one eye and shut the other eye--, b/c they will leave town, once the games related tourists go home.
2. spying on own people
in ming dynasty, there were the east wing and west wing of eunichs. they spied on own people and take out any "elements" they deemed "unsafe" most of the time, they were not.
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both KMT and CPC were formed and structured based upon lenin style political party system--
whatever you said in your home or backyard, nobody cares. but any thing you said in front of others or public, internet, paper, --, you will be watched. anything may lead to a group activity, you will be in trouble-- or on the watchlist.
that is why there are many internet agents or wang te.
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so I support the games to be free of political agenda.
I support only peaceful dissent or protests.
I believe that everyone may say their minds. there are 7 colors in the rainbow and not just red. live and let live. ---
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:D
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