Muslem Gung fu

[diego]

Does any one have any articles and or video on China's history of Muslems doing the Gung Fu?...I'm looking for anything on them tieng their religion to the bhuddist and taoist traditons of Chinese Martial arts.:)

[Eddie]

I've been interested in this too. In Wuhan I met some Muslim people who owned a noodleshop. They speak a different language that is a fusion of arabic and some chinese dilect. It would be cool to get some info on this

[BruceSteveRoy]

there is a large population of muslim chinese in the yunnan province. i saw some of their mosques when i was there. they are really beautiful. i think the muslims are called the "hui" in chinese but that might be wrong. anyway, from my understanding they are the ones that helped to develop the tan tui. this of course could have been BS and i didn't research it but i had no real reason not to believe them. very cool people.

[diego]

I've been interested in this too. In Wuhan I met some Muslim people who owned a noodleshop. They speak a different language that is a fusion of arabic and some chinese dilect. It would be cool to get some info on this


That 's a cool mix, you got me thinking of persian-asian halfbreeds now:cool:

This guy is shy so he wore a mask, lmao...it's muslem tam toi and he wearing a veil...bloody perfect!. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbDs7ZORxto&feature=related

[diego]

there is a large population of muslim chinese in the yunnan province. i saw some of their mosques when i was there. they are really beautiful. i think the muslims are called the "hui" in chinese but that might be wrong. anyway, from my understanding they are the ones that helped to develop the tan tui. this of course could have been BS and i didn't research it but i had no real reason not to believe them. very cool people.

KFM had an article on tam toi and Muslems like ten years ago...Gene:D

[GLW]

typically, the Hui (Moslem) people did not do the 12 road Tan Tui - rather they more often use the 10 road. The flavor is different.

Wang Ziping is an example of this - and his version of Tan Tui - 10 road is available in a book about Moslems and Wushu - China press or something...got a copy long time ago.

[Ironpig]

"Wushu among chinese moslems" is a decent book on the subject.

I believe it to be out of print, but worth it if you can find it.

Best regards,

Rob

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Edited to inlcude:

Publisher: China Books & Periodicals (December 1984)
ISBN-10: 0835115399
ISBN-13: 978-0835115391

[GeneChing]

Use the search engine and you'll find plenty.

We've done a few articles on tan tui. Here's some threads:
彈腿 Tan Tui Information and Discussion (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46370)
is Tan Tui a northern shaolin art? (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50169)
Tan Tui Origins (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48415)
Gene - Tan Tui Again (yeah) (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45492)
Video: Tan Tui (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44050)
Tan Tui visual comparison (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40721)
BSL Lyrics: Tom Toy (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12377)
A search on 'tan tui' produces 175 threads at this time. I just selected a few here. Use the search, Luke...:rolleyes:

We've also had Muslims on our cover. I hope that doesn't get us busted by homeland security. :eek:
Here are two:

2002 November/December (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=236): The Muslim Master of the Old Empire: An interview with Grandmaster Ma Xiand (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=244)a by Gigi Oh, with Gene Ching

1998 July (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=83): Growing Up With Wang Ziping and Madam Wang Jurong: A daughter's reminiscence of one of China's most famous Kung Fu families (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=84) by Grace Xiaogao Wu-Monnat

[GLW]

the one buried in there:

Wang Zi Ping’s Cha Quan 10 Road Tan Tui
http://www.web.nyist.net/~rf/sywj/%CA%AE%C2%B7%B5%AF%CD%C8/

is the version that the descendants of Wang Ziping still teach.

[diego]

Use the search engine and you'll find plenty.

We've done a few articles on tan tui. Here's some threads:
彈腿 Tan Tui Information and Discussion (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46370)
is Tan Tui a northern shaolin art? (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50169)
Tan Tui Origins (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48415)
Gene - Tan Tui Again (yeah) (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45492)
Video: Tan Tui (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44050)
Tan Tui visual comparison (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40721)
BSL Lyrics: Tom Toy (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12377)
A search on 'tan tui' produces 175 threads at this time. I just selected a few here. Use the search, Luke...:rolleyes:

We've also had Muslims on our cover. I hope that doesn't get us busted by homeland security. :eek:
Here are two:

2002 November/December (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=236): The Muslim Master of the Old Empire: An interview with Grandmaster Ma Xiand (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=244)a by Gigi Oh, with Gene Ching

1998 July (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=83): Growing Up With Wang Ziping and Madam Wang Jurong: A daughter's reminiscence of one of China's most famous Kung Fu families (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=84) by Grace Xiaogao Wu-Monnat

Thanks gene, uda man:D what I'm curious about is if the Muslems still have their old school gung fu...the communists persecuted them during the wars right?. I'm thinking since the muslems are all about their holy books I'm hoping they have some libraries full of gung fu history. I wonder if any chinese muslems brought gung fu to the middle east and taught gung fu jihad back in the day:)

[Eddie]

apparently their whole view on islam is also differen to that of other muslims we know.
Im going to google that now.
thanks for the link Gene

[lkfmdc]

Shuai Jiao legend Chang Dung Sheng was also an Islamic Chinese....

[GeneChing]

But here's some wushu amongst muslim schoolgirls - awesome photos. (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Muslim-Schoolgirls-Practise-Wushu-Martial-Arts-In-India/Media-Gallery/200807215030463?lpos=World%2BNews_0&lid=GALLERY_15030463_Muslim%2BSchoolgirls%2BPracti se%2BWushu%2BMartial%2BArts%2BIn%2BIndia)

[sanjuro_ronin]

Shuai Jiao legend Chang Dung Sheng was also an Islamic Chinese....

yes, supposedly some sino-muslim MA techniques are quite prevalent in his SC.

[KC Elbows]

i think the muslims are called the "hui" in chinese but that might be wrong.

For the most part, correct(huizu), although the huizu are specifically one ethnic group that is predominantly muslim, but there are other, non hui, muslims in China, especially Xinjiang.

By a strange fluke, most of my Chinese friends are actually huizu. The chen style I studied this summer was a class entirely composed, except for me, of hui Chinese. One of the students is the local sanda champ. Really good stuff, and...it was free. The class is a bunch of crusty old cops and such, plus a few of their younger family members(like the sanda champ), no one pays, it's all about training together, if you can hang and they consider you a friend, you can train, otherwise, you'll never see the class.

Ironically, at roughly the same time as the tiananmen square deal, there were muslims rioting over decency in literature, the state placated those rioters, in stark contrast to what occured in Beijing.

To be honest, I've met relatively few hui people who attend mosque or are particularly religious, mainly older men. However, I've not met one who wasn't strict as hell on the dietary restrictions, although some drink alcohol. They are considered stricter on diet than most other muslims, and their restaurants are usually safe because of they tend to be very sanitary when it comes to food preparation, so in China, if you see a chinese restaurant that has arabic on their sign as well, or says "qingzhen"清真(pure-true), you're less likely to suffer later for eating there than some other places.

[ghostexorcist]

Does any one have any articles and or video on China's history of Muslems doing the Gung Fu?...I'm looking for anything on them tieng their religion to the bhuddist and taoist traditons of Chinese Martial arts.:)

This is the book they are talking about: http://www.wle.com//products/b241.html

It's a nice introduction to a couple of styles and famous practitioners. However, it does not delve too deeply into the early history.

[diego]

This is the book they are talking about: http://www.wle.com//products/b241.html

It's a nice introduction to a couple of styles and famous practitioners. However, it does not delve too deeply into the early history.

Thanks for the link:)

[diego]

But here's some wushu amongst muslim schoolgirls - awesome photos. (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Muslim-Schoolgirls-Practise-Wushu-Martial-Arts-In-India/Media-Gallery/200807215030463?lpos=World%2BNews_0&lid=GALLERY_15030463_Muslim%2BSchoolgirls%2BPracti se%2BWushu%2BMartial%2BArts%2BIn%2BIndia)

those chicks are rad:cool:

[ghostexorcist]

Thanks for the link:)

Happy to help.