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Dave P
05-21-2008, 02:02 PM
Combat Journal has published some nice new interviews as Ernie referred to the David Peterson article, There also was published an interview with Philipp Bayer. Another long term student of Wong Shun Leung.

How did you get started in Wing Chun and who was your first teacher?

I started in Germany with the Leung Ting way of wing chun , called WT
after short time I changed to Wong Shun Leung because of his Fighting
System and his way of thinking.

How did you get to meet sifu Wong Shun Leung?

By accident, a martial shop owner gave me his address saying "if you want
to learn true Ving Tsun you must find this man."

What are the special characteristics of Wong Shun Leung's wing chun?

You have the objectives clearly in front of your eyes... no mystics, no
secret just hard work, no playing wing chun, just fighting.

What are the main principles of the art?

The Conditioning of correct behavior and thinking for fighting, training and developing Punching Power, Strategy, Coordination, Balance, Finding and Using of Chances , timing to find the simplest and most direct way to solve ones problems in a fight and other important fighting attributes necessary to survive a fight.

How is chi sau related to combat?

To train and improve in Ving Tsun, we have a unique and versatile
training partner exericise which serves to train and correct many
attributes necessary for fighting...this exercise is called Chi Sau. Chi
Sau is a co-operation between mutual partners to exchange and reciprocate
something between themselves, if there is no co-operation...it's no
longer Chi Sau, which becomes un-productive. Chi Sau is a very good
exercise to help you to reach your goal and that's why we spend so much
time and effort usually up to 90% of our training time, but it is still
only a link or bridge between the forms and sparring which serves to
develop the Idea of Ving Tsun.

What is your opinion of cross training eg Wing Chun and Brazilian
Jiu jitsu?

To attain combat proficiancy in Ving Tsun, you have to train very hard, to keep this level even harder... there is no time for implementing other ideas.

What are the diffrent types of footwork used in Wing Chun? Could you please describe them?

There is only one type of footwork... we try to cut the enemies way and
interrupt the attack

The wooden dummy is broken down into 108/114 movements.These movements are further grouped into sections. How many sections are there in the wooden
dummy techniques and does each section have a particular purpose to
teach the practioner?

Like Chi Sau and other methods to train your behaviour in fighting, we
use the dummy. Most of the dummy sections train your elbow position for the main weapon of Ving Tsun... the straight punch. But it also improves coordination , synchronisation of leg and arm movements and to use ones whole body structure to hit. Proper footwork and timing is also learnt, among other things.

Please explain the concept of using body structure in Wing Chun ?

A good punch doesn't come from the arm only, you need your complete
body... in chi sau for example we create the perfect structure to use the body for punching, when we are able to exchange the force with the partner. The quality of the exchange is the key...

How is your typical Wing Chun class structured?

My students start with the forms of Ving Tsun in order to create
and keep the right idea. Later they start to train the main weapon.

What is your opinion of chi sao competion?

Unable to think of that!

What is you opinion of supplementary training for Wing Chun eg
running to build endurance and weight training for strength.

In Ving Tsun you learn very early to find your weak points and what you
have to do to rectify them. Running for example is not bad, but to be in good
condition for fighting, you need to fight and spar.

Is grappling and bone breaking techniques included in the art.

No.

Sifu I am going to list a few techniques and concepts. Briefly state
in one sentence a important point for each techniques in relation to
combat.

Tan sau trains your punch
Bong sau open the way for striking
Fook sau trains your punch
Pak sau open the way for striking
Kwan sau trains your punch
Tok sau (we dont have)
Poon sau (exchange of force)
Fak sau (striking)
Lap sau (open the way for striking)
Yee gee kim yum ma (training stance .. to conditioning the foot
and knee position for supporting the punch)
Jum sau trains your punch

By the way... you didn't ask me about the most important
technique(principle) , the
straight punch!?!

What are your thoughts on the future of Sifu Wong Shun Leung's wing chun?

I hope that we can keep the stupid and foolish people away from the system.

k gledhill
05-21-2008, 09:32 PM
He speaks my language :D

couch
05-22-2008, 05:55 AM
He speaks my language :D

Too bad we don't speak yours...!

(all in good fun, my friend)

:cool:

k gledhill
05-22-2008, 06:33 AM
HAH !

do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth !:D

:D



Its not easy to understand without hands on . If your in NYC drop by and I can explain in an hour.

couch
05-22-2008, 07:37 AM
HAH !

do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth !:D

:D



Its not easy to understand without hands on . If your in NYC drop by and I can explain in an hour.

When I come to NY, I will have a few stops to make. Your school will definitely be one of them.

Dave P
05-22-2008, 09:26 AM
Didn't know you could speak German Kevin...lol:D

k gledhill
05-23-2008, 06:56 AM
A little german ! I learned a few languages enough so I wont starve or be lacking to ask directions .
It made me think of a student I had who traveled a lot , he learned to say "I love you, how much?" in several languages for the ladies haha!

BTW I meant fighting with VT language ;) Philipp speaks a fighting language in VT "ATTACK"








"how good is your attack today ? " :D

Dave P
05-23-2008, 12:14 PM
Ofcourse, I understood that....:-)

Well, to refresh some German, there are just a few things you need to know:


Stoss (punch)
Schritt (step)
Hufte (hips)
drehen (turn)
Handgelenk (wrist)
ellebogen (elbow)
holzpuppe (wooden dummy)
langstock (longpole)
messer (knives)

The rest is in Chinese...:-)

k gledhill
07-11-2010, 08:18 AM
good read.:D the part about mutual chi-sao development and not 'fighting' in chi-sao. Makes all the competition in chi-sao kind of silly.

bennyvt
07-14-2010, 08:29 AM
don't ask me why but the only german I know is "shida in von lider hosen" spelling being really crap, translation I have **** in my pants. Considering Barry once gave me concusion for three days (couln't get out of bed due to throwing up and dizziness) If I had gone to his school I think I would have needed that phrase.:eek:

sanjuro_ronin
07-14-2010, 08:40 AM
To attain combat proficiancy in Ving Tsun, you have to train very hard, to keep this level even harder... there is no time for implementing other ideas.

Not sure why he would say that, I mean other systems do it just fine and there is no issue with them, what makes WC so "inferior" that it needs to be trained SO HARD than supplementing it with an other system that covers what WC doesn't, would somehow cause an issue with WC training?
Not a very high opinion of WC.

Frost
07-14-2010, 08:43 AM
Not sure why he would say that, I mean other systems do it just fine and there is no issue with them, what makes WC so "inferior" that it needs to be trained SO HARD than supplementing it with an other system that covers what WC doesn't, would somehow cause an issue with WC training?
Not a very high opinion of WC.

especially as everyone likes to point out how simple direct and efficent WC is meant to be...i mean its not like it has hundreds of forms to master or several different ranges of fighting to become expert in....:confused:

chusauli
07-14-2010, 11:11 AM
Quote:

What are your thoughts on the future of Sifu Wong Shun Leung's wing chun?

I hope that we can keep the stupid and foolish people away from the system.

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Love that! LOL!

Graham H
07-24-2010, 06:01 AM
Quote:

What are your thoughts on the future of Sifu Wong Shun Leung's wing chun?

I hope that we can keep the stupid and foolish people away from the system.

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Love that! LOL!


Unfortunately that's not possible. To quote one of my peers..."There are more stupid and foolish people in the world than there are windows" :D

The best thing to keeps these people away is to create more stupid Sifus.

GH