Anyone heard of Chuan Wu Kung Fu Institute

[Old Tiger]

Anyone heard or have experiece with Master David Theroff from San Jose. He is starting classes in the suburb of Chicago, and I want to know if he is legit. From his website, seems like teaching too many different styles, but maybe he is that good. Here's his website:

http://www.cwkungfu.net/


Thanks

[TenTigers]

anyone who classifies MA into external only , and internal only, usually has understanding of niether. Caveat emptor

[cerebus]

Hmmm... ya. That site seemed a bit odd. And when a school tries to hard to teach everything, they usually end up teaching nothing of worth...

[SimonM]

I'd agree, caviat emptor.

My concern is over a few points:

1) Strict division of "internal" and "external".

2) Presence of "drunken" and "bird" on the "external" styles list.

Drunken is, imho never a good sign as drunken boxing is the art of getting punched in the head while you stagger around like an idiot.

What is meant by "bird"? Does he mean eagle claw? I'd ask "does it mean crane" but crane is listed separately on the list from "bird".

3) Forms collector: 5 styles of taiji?!?
Plus bagua and xingyi.... that would be an intensive curriculum in and of its self. Add to that a minimum of 8 bare-hand forms and 15 weapon forms and you are looking at a curriculum with no less than 28 forms! Now I'm not an absolute opponent to forms practice on a curriculum. I've even advocated forms as being beneficial for general health (cardio = good for you) and have promoted certain, specific, forms (Iron Thread) as being even useful for fight conditioning.

But, come on, 28 different forms? Minimum? This is a warning sign.

4) No photos but drawings of (Wu Song?) GNPing a tiger.

5) Edit that... there is a photo available: This guy is one of their instructors. (https://chuanwukungfuinstitute.net/mdst///mnt/w0210/d41/s04/b021cb93/www/chuanwukungfuinstitute.net//chicago//wp-content/uploads/2008/05/masterpk.jpg)

6)Read the bio of "Master David" (http://chuanwukungfuinstitute.net/mdst/?page_id=21)

7) Did I mention that guy (well it could be Wu Song) Ground-and-Pounding the Tiger?

[MasterKiller]

Looks like Shaolin-Do.

Check out their uniforms.

http://chuanwukungfuinstitute.net/mdst///mnt/w0210/d41/s04/b021cb93/www/chuanwukungfuinstitute.net//chicago//wp-content/uploads/2008/05/sifuod.JPG

[lkfmdc]

Bio says he studied with Sin The, so he IS Shaolin-Do

(this thread is now closed, nothing to see here, move along)

[SimonM]

So does Shaolin Do advocate the use of MMA techniques on endangered species? (https://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32782)

[lkfmdc]

So does Shaolin Do advocate the use of MMA techniques on endangered species? (https://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32782)

Dear Old Tiger,
Please read the ENTIRE thread that SimonM just posted a link to, then we can discuss this further........

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

This guy is in my back yard practically. I will have to go check him out when I have some spare time.

[cjurakpt]

This guy is in my back yard practically. I will have to go check him out when I have some spare time.

will it be... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmUlKPthrag)?

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

I doubt it. He looks like a modern form collector from a Karate background.

My style has 3 core forms, and the monkey set. That is all I ever do. I pitched everything else that was unrelated to the Tai tzu like 7-8 years ago.

I have 3 workouts I do solo, one is conditioning with weights and just body weight only. The others are structure and mechanics drills. These include bag work, foot work drills, and a little bit of forms work when I feel the need to do them.

I am supposed to be learning the sets from my current are of study, but I don't even think about them unless I am in class. I just like application and foundational work.

I rarely do forms for anything but the warm up now and then it is just to remember the sequence and get the juices flowing for practice.