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mantis108
07-05-2008, 08:32 PM
I am advice to post the following public message on behalf of the Chiu Chuk Kai Tai Chi Praying Mantis clan.

We have recently discovered certain forms on youtube that claims to be of origin or relate to CCK TCPM including the Cha Chui form. However, Chap Chue (Cha Chui) is a well known Seven Stars Praying Mantis form. This form is certainly not a Tai Chi Praying Mantis form. It should be respected as the intellectual property of the founder of the Seven Stars line. It is not found in the curricula taught by Grandmaster Chiu Chuk Kai and is therefore not within the Chiu Chuk Kai Tai Chi Praying Mantis International Association's standard curriculum. Grand Master Chiu Chuk Kai had never taught this form throughout his teaching career. It is important to observe the intellectual property right of other Grandmasters, respect the teaching our late Grandmaster and remain truthful to the style.

We also found one clip of The cloudy palm (摩雲掌)performance that does not conform to details as taught by Grandmaster Chiu. The lack of understanding of the subtlety distinctive to the form is evident. It does however displayed signs of adoptation of the same form from our survey of CCK TCPM system that is recorded on DVD format. We strongly believe that proper supervision and tutelage of a competent teacher of the style can not be substituted by imitating performance available on video format.

Cloudy palm learned from DVD
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=i7h2BhXhqeA

We believe it is a prudent measure to monitor development of our style in order to preserve the integrity of Grandmaster Chiu's precious legacy. We do so out of the love and respect of the Grandmaster's memory. It is not our intention to defame anyone.

For information concerning CCK TCPM, please visit http://www.ccktcpmantis.com

The list of non CCK TCP Mantis Forms.

Chap Chue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDTQBP0OCyw

Miao Doa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09fBo2wkkwM

Fake Tai Chi Sword From
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZogGk-jsKI

Katana
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YlvjCuE36a8

Billy Club
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bFLhOsyCIcw

竹樹長青太極螳螂昌百世
溪流不息南山北海頌千秋

Sincerely,

Robert

P.S. I have difficulty posting over at the Mantis Quarterly. So I will just have this here and on my own forum.

TaichiMantis
07-15-2008, 06:27 AM
I don't get it. Were these clips previously posted by someone else who represented themselves as cck tcpm lineage? I see they were posted by ccktcpmantis...who is in the vid? who shot it? where was it taken? what school is he from?

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